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Eurozone Target2 Economic Imbalances Soar, This Money Can’t Be Paid Back

Target 2 balances from the ECB, numbers and caption by Mish

TARGET2 is the real-time gross settlement (RTGS) system owned and operated by the Eurosystem. 

The Target2 Lead Chart is courtesy of the ECB. It shows Target 2 creditor and debtor nations. 

Tatget2 is one of the fundamental flaws of the Eurozone. 

Primary Creditors and Debtors

  • Target2 surpluses to the tune of €1.23 trillion continue to mount in Germany. 
  • Tiny Luxembourg is somehow a €303 billion creditor. 
  • The largest Target2 deficit nations are Italy at €670 billion, Spain at €484 billion, the ECB itself at €339 billion, and Greece at €106 billion.

The ECB’s imbalance is related to its bond manipulation schemes to keep interest rates down in Italy, Spain, Greece, and the peripheral Eurozone countries in general.

Capital Flight

Capital flight is one component of Target2 imbalances. 

On the likely assumption that Italian banks are insolvent, no one in their right mind should have money in Italian banks. 

Recall the capital controls imposed by the ECB on Greece and Cyprus after bank failures in those countries. Anyone who had money in a bank in Germany had full access to it. Anyone who had money in a Greek bank didn’t. 

It’s increasing likely that corporations and wealthy individuals do not trust Italian banks, nor should they.

Unsecured Debt 

Unsecured debt is another component of Target2. The ECB assumption is that these debts will be paid back. No one explains how.

The ECB also treats all sovereign bank debt within the Eurozone as equal, and with no risk. 

The market disagrees and so do I. 

ECB vs Fed

In the US there is one Central Bank. There is a single 10-year government bond. 

The Eurozone has the ECB to set interest rate policy, but each nation has its own central bank. 

If all Eurozone sovereign debt was indeed equal, then 10-year yields in Italy and Germany would be the same.

Instead, the 10-year rates in Germany and Italy are 1.94% and 3.80% respectively. Huge country-to-country differences are despite massive intervention by the ECB to equalize rates. 

Target2 is a kluge payment system that tries to make things fit but does not quite succeed. 

It is difficult to say how much of the imbalances are capital flight, debt, and knock-on effects of ECB manipulations.

However, we can see the imbalances grow nearly every month, wondering when and how it finally matters.

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mrchinup
mrchinup
3 years ago
It will never matter and hasn’t for years. You haven’t been paying attention Mish. The money will never get paid back by anyone. The liberal globalist oligarchs have their own plan. Come on Mish pay attention, you’re better than this, right? I guess you can just blame it on Trump.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
“…the 10-year rates in Germany and Italy are 1.94% and 3.80% respectively…”
LMAO. German inflation rate in November is around 11.6%. Italian inflation rate at 12.6%.
Deeply negative real rates constitute life support for failing economies. I worry less about money being paid back, but implosion would seem to be imminent. Gold gold?
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
So it looks like it would cost Germany 1.23 trillion Euros to leave the Eurozone.
Quite a pair of handcuffs there.
rojogrande
rojogrande
3 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
Only if Germany falls victim to the sunk cost fallacy.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
MISH , I didn t pay much attention before my previous comments , let me ask you now though : how in the world can one of the richest European countries, viz Luxemburg , the financial hub of Europe, have a 300 bln debt with merely a incredible and enviable 25% debt /GDP ratio …..I D APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWER !
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Luxemburg is a big banking center with lots of money being wired in and out. For every debit there is a credit and visa versa and the 300 bln is a temporary imbalance between the two sides of the ledger brought on by differences in settlement dates.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Yep, that s exactly what I thought , so in other words this is clearly a misrepresentation of things when you come to think of it ….like probably many other things in the world ….Dont know about you but I am going to hit my haystack now …..Good night !
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
You misunderstand. It is a sign of capital flight but it is taking place within the EU. From Italy to northern Europe via the Luxembourg banks.
MarkraD
MarkraD
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
I’d explain your mistake, but no, I won’t.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Europe is a mess. Europe might have a finance minister and a central treasury dept like in US . When that will happen (if) the Fed and the ECB
will synchronize their interest rates.
Avery
Avery
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
German heavy industries unbolting the machinery and moving out, including to China.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Europe fckd itself big time by going along with US of A s war against yet another invented, or REinvented rather, enemy named Russia !!
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
So, if you don t mind me asking Mish , what should Europeans do with their fn euros ?? It’s great to have an opinion , yet some advice would be appreciated ….
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Get a US dollar denominated bank account if you have a significant amount of money. As a Canadian living in the US, I have both US and Canadian bank accounts and move money between them with the bonus that you don’t pay any taxes when you profit from doing so (ie one dollar declines vs the other).
If you only have a month or two of expenses in your savings account it really doesn’t make sense to do anything at all other than to maybe keep some in cash (a months worth) under your mattress since you are getting 0% interest anyway.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Melt them down into bullet molds is one possibility. Not that I would ever call anything I write in a public forum advice.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Buy potato, comrade!
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Actually I was addressing myself to SMART people! …..in other words you were kind of excluded , I do forgive you though , one can only use what one has got for a braincell ….
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Smart people have you on ignore.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
We are in a period of unprecedented unpredictability. IMHO, it will likely challenge many economic preconceptions. Diversity and consolidate wealth, with 50% in a ‘stable’ non-EU country with a passport to match.
mrchinup
mrchinup
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Buy Silver. The big debts will never be paid back. The liberal globalist oligarchs have a plan. You will eat bugs and love it. Only if you are a part of their 500 million survivors. Fight now or forever eat your bugs.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
Italy is important. Italy have more US bases than any other European nation. It control Sicily & Libya choke point. Greece is important.
Crete control the flow from the Suez canal, Haifa, Russia navy base in Syria and the Dardanelles. Money is important, but Crete & Italy as a strategic valves, are more important than debt. Both the Fed and the ECB most important job is national interest…
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
WHY ?? To end up in disaster anyway ? ….That s what we re now heading for , the end is neigh in all aspects !
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
All the above explain why the Fed and the ECB need negative rates, in real terms, to cut debt. The flight to Germany affect German rates. Gravity with Germany drag US long duration down and the German up. The Fed hike, but US log duration are down, because US is no longer a stand alone mountain. That’s why US yield curve hit nadir. Raising rates to 10%-15% is futile.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots
Great ! 30% inflation with interest rates at 3% ….Like I said GREAT !
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
You should really stop worrying so much. I’m sure your benevolent overlords will be fine.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
This is a wealth transfer equal to grand theft. I’d be surprised if there are not revolutions in some EU countries before the granny-state ends.
George_Phillies
George_Phillies
3 years ago
If something cannot continue, it probably won’t. How? For example, at some point less well-to-do Italians start moving their money to Bank of Mattress. Or Euros are exchanged for dollars.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
The EU is a confederation with a central bank and since each individual country has different fiscal policies as well as widely different fiscal reputations it is normal that investors judge that the states have different risk profiles and therefore different bond rates. We see the same thing with munis in the US. Texas can barrow cheaper than than Illinois for example. The difference is that the US will probably not break apart and so the overall currency risk is low. In the EU there is a risk that the Euro will break down hence we have the additional risk that has to be neutralized or contained by the European Central Bank. An analogy would be if the Fed buys Illinois and Chicago bonds to give the illusion of solvability. Many people have been expecting the Euro to fail since its inception but I don’t think so. Even if many economists point out the Euros nefarious effect on southern European economies when you talk to the people on the street the last thing they want is to go back to their old very unstable currencies. If it becomes truly unsustainable then they will have to be kicked out of the Euro because they will no go willingly but I doubt that will happen.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
“nefarious effect on southern European economies when you talk to the people on the street the last thing they want is to go back to their old very unstable currencies.”
Not sure why, but despite being perhaps _the_ poster child city for “benefitting from the Euro”; at least on the surface; it seems like darned near half of Barcelona wants to not only ditch the Euro, but indeed go back to Franco……
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
Some in Barcelona want out of Spain but still in the EU and in the Euro.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
You know s**t about Europe , that much is obvious ! We were MUCH better off WITHOUT the insane common, debt creating currency , no doubt about it !
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Apparently you don’t know how weak the Belgium Franc was in the 1980’s which leads me to believe that either you are too young to have experienced it or that you are not from Belgium at all.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
a 12% interest rate made up for it ! ….and we bought Gulden in dutch banks, tax free , well at least I did ….
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Gulden was the Dutch currency. So you sold francs to buy guldens. You should have bought Dmarks instead. I did.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
…I lived at 25 kms from the dutch border ….and Gulden was a strong currency so what you on about
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Indeed, Belgium was a big beneficiary of the EU. Too many years of progressive policies will destroy any country.
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
You are quite young in your understanding of monetary systems, Doug.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  RunnerDan
Yes, my twenty-five years of seeing it from the inside is far less than what you have experienced no doubt.
mrchinup
mrchinup
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Get out while you can before it turns into a total nightmare.
RunnerDan
RunnerDan
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
In 2003 I hired a local guide for a walking tour of the Acropolis. I very naively remarked that she must like the (new) Euro currency and how much it would facilitate spending for the Europeans. I was startled when she looked at me with a frown and sternly replied “No! Nobody wanted the Euro. It was forced on us.” I had absolutely no idea about the corruption of all the banking systems.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  RunnerDan
Your deep knowledge of European economics comes from a Greek tour guide?
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I remember reading about a time when the U.S. thought it was a confederation as well. And we were. At least until a couple of states tried to leave. Don’t you worry! That silly misunderstanding got set straight with a quickness.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Yes. Some of my ancestors convinced them to stay.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Most of mine stayed out of that mess, but the rest sort of split their allegiance. The real reason the South lost was because everybody else’s ancestors were colonels and generals, and mine was the only private in the whole Confederate army. So, right after he deserted, old Lee knew he was done.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
He went back to Cold Mountain?
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Yep. He never did have much luck.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Well at least he got to bang Nicole Kidman.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Guess he had better luck than I do then!
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Turned out to be a mistake.
Quagmire46
Quagmire46
3 years ago
I remember some years ago that Greece and Italy were debtor nations. Mish wrote ” That which can not be paid back will not be paid back” How did that shake out over time?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Quagmire46
It’s still shaking out.
It’s going to unfold in slow motion, not fast.
ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
3 years ago
Is the Euro doomed?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
In the long run, yes. Just like the dollar.
In the short run, even Madoff’s, nor SBF’s, paper weren’t doomed.
It’s all about time horizons.
But in the long run, unsustainable can’t be sustained.

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