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Interactive Websites: Who Will Win the Presidential Election?

At least four sites have interactive maps that let you make changes to determine who will win in November. My lead chart represents my base case. Economics explains why.

Mish adjustments to the 538 interactive model. I explain the changes and why, in detail below.

Interactive Websites and Features

  • 270toWin: The 270toWin site lets you change states at will. But it offers no parameters you can change to see the impact. This is not a serious site for playing “What If”.
  • RaceToTheWH: RTTWH is a sprawling site with various interactive features. The sprawling nature of the site makes things complicated. The link shown lets you adjust the national vote for Trump or Biden. But national trends will not decide the election.
  • Wall Street Journal: The WSJ site is paywall protected. It lets you adjust education, race, gender, age, and turnout. And it lets you adjust for third-party votes. But all the adjustments are at the national level.
  • 538 Nate Silver: 538 is easier to use than WSJ. And it’s free. But like the WSJ, it does not let you select states individually.

Recommendations

If you are going to play around interactively, start with 538. If you want an up-to-date forecast try RTTWH.

First, you need a set of polls that breaks things down by education, race, gender, age, turnout, and third-party votes.

National trends will not decide this.

Swing State Polls

I started with the New York Times/Siena Likely Voter Poll of the Presidential Battlegrounds from April 28 to May 9.

However, starting with the above poll and applying the percentages at the national level gives entertaining but laughable results.

For example, Trump won California. In fact, Trump won every state but Hawaii, Massachusetts, DC, and Vermont.

That won’t happen. So we really do need breakdowns by state.

Also, Income data is going to be very hard to find. So 538 needs to remove that parameter and adjust accordingly.

Starting All Over

Starting all over, I played around with finding the minimum change consistent with the NYT polls that would give Trump the win.

For example, consider age groups 18-29 and 30-34.

Biden clobbered Trump in 2020 in age group 18-29 by 29 percentage points and age group 30-34 by 24 percentage points. In the swing states, Trump is ahead!

The 2020 election had Biden ahead of Trump with Black voters by a whopping 82 percentage points. Now its down to 58-12 (46 percentage points).

These numbers include RFK.

A modest shift of 18-29 year-olds from +29 to +24 for Biden is enough for Trump to win the electoral college 272-262, flipping Wisconsin, Arizona, and Georgia.

If we also make another modest shift in age group 30-44 from +24 to +20 for Biden, Trump wins 291-247, flipping Pennsylvania as well.

Bear in mind the swing state polls have Trump winning those age groups.

If we also adjust the Black percentages from Biden +82 to Biden +69, then Trump adds Nevada and Michigan making the electoral college vote 312-226. Yet, Biden still wins the national vote 50-48 causing howls.

Something like this is my base case and It’s my lead chart.

Why the Shift in Young and Black Voters?

I have addressed that question several times, but some new readers may not understand what’s happening.

Blacks constitute only 14 percent of the voting age population, but the swings toward Trump are so huge they could decide the election.

WSJ Swing State Poll, anecdotes in blue by Mish

For discussion, please see Swing State Poll Shows Black Voters Abandoning Biden In Huge Numbers

While most Black men said they intend to support Biden, some 30% of them in the poll said they were either definitely or probably going to vote for the former Republican president. There isn’t comparable WSJ swing-state polling from 2020, but Trump received votes from 12% of Black men nationwide that year, as recorded by AP VoteCast, a large poll of the electorate.

Housing and inflation is the top issue. The cost of rent has gone up for 32 consecutive months by at least 0.4 percent per month according to the BLS.

Generational Homeownership Rates

Home ownership rates courtesy of Apartment List

The Apartment List 2023 Millennial Homeownership Report shows Millennial homeownership seriously lags other generations.

Generation Z homeownership is dramatically lower still.

And according to the National Association of Realtors, the homeownership rate among Black Americans is 44 percent whereas for White Americans it’s 72.7 percent.

That’s the largest Black-White homeownership rate gap in a decade.

Q: What is it that young voters really have on their minds?
A: Rent

Renters Will Decide the Election

I tie everything together in my post People Who Rent Will Decide the 2024 Presidential Election

Q: Who are the renters?
A: Young voters and Blacks

That fully explains the massive shift in the polls among younger voters and Blacks. Factor in the immigration mess and a landslide is not out of the question.

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el Tedo
el Tedo
2 years ago

It would be quite ironic if the real estate tycoon won the election thanks to renters.

Willie Nelson II
Willie Nelson II
2 years ago

Buying four magic eightballs does not produce better results, it just costs four times the price of a single magic eightball. Magic eightballs can be entertaining, but no intelligent person puts any faith in a magic eightball’s “expertise”, much less four of them.

We have two octogenarians, neither of whom plans to pay the debts they accumulated during their allegedly productive years.

Biden hates America and is trying to bring about Marxism. Trump is going to shout and interrupt and write annoying tweets. Both will leave this realm and leave behind at least $40 trillion in unpaid debt and a long list of problems that didn’t exist when they came of age.

Thetenyear
Thetenyear
2 years ago

Is Biden really going to run? Do the interactive websites cover this? What is the true deadline for yanking Biden?

ajc1970
ajc1970
2 years ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

good question

related: if they yank Biden and put in their star child Newsom, will skipping over Kamala irritate black & female voters? to the extent that some don’t vote or vote Trump?

Kamala would probably lose bigger than Biden will, so there’s no point with that swap. But swapping with Newsom risks pissing off the base. So they’re in a bind.

BobC
BobC
2 years ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

Yes, Biden is going to run, unless a serious health problem crops up. Stop listening to the chattering classes from NY and DC. It’s idle gossip.

Laura
Laura
2 years ago
Reply to  Thetenyear

I thought they were going to replace him but I don’t think Jill will allow him to step down as she likes all her perks.

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

In 2023 RRP poured in $2T liquidity into the market. Raising FFR to 5.5% sucked liquidity, but Biden poured it back into several swing states.
In construction is down, bc rental cap is shrinking. Landlords sucks less.
Home ownership, the old American dream, is less desired than ever before. It’s all about liquidity, not about rent. Boomers are spenders. Gen-Z are savers.
Blue collar workers have more money today than ever before. There are signs of cracks, but they aren’t pouring in. Both Trump and Biden are old, tainted and transitional candidates. Trump/Youngkin, or Trump/Scott have more appeal than Gamala/Biden.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago

Still too early imo.

MichaelM
MichaelM
2 years ago

Although I am a conservative who will vote for Trump, I do not think that Trump will win for two reasons. First, in the 2020 election, Democrats perfected the art of vote rigging. I am not talking about election counting irregularities such as voting machines and vote counting. I am talking about ballot harvesting with millions of ballots may have been voted illegally. Democrats have relaxed rules about voting and generally refuse to clean voter rolls. Once a ballot is returned, Democrat policies make determination of illegal votes near impossible. With well established motor voting (and other simple registration methods), it is easy for ineligible people to obtain ballots.
Second, Biden has bought off large parts of the electorate. Although enthusiasm for Biden is low, the trigger point for many voters is free government money. Three of the largest vote buying schemes are student loan forgiveness, massive Obamacare subsidies, and green energy subsidies. There are many other Democrat vote buying schemes, many involving cooperation between Democrats at the state and federal levels. Recipients of these subsidies will vote Democrat no matter their low enthusiasm for Biden.
Mish has a good point about renters, many unhappy rent increases and inability to afford homes. I do not think that this group is large enough to overcome vote rigging and vote buying.

Rjohnson
Rjohnson
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

it seems like a lot of the 2030 insanity push(evs, climate etc) has a lot of backing and investments and they certainly need Biden to stay put. Summary: we’re screwed.

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Everything is rigged when you lose right ? And Republicans never buy votes too right ?

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago

Go with it. I’m prepared to flip as many millions of votes that it takes to keep Biden in the OO and the right triggered as all get out.

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago

I’m in the secret vote bunker with a crew of illegal aliens flipping mail in votes RIGHT NOW! George Soros paid us each 11tybillion dollars to git’ er’ done!

allan
allan
2 years ago

Nowhere close to the Democrats!

BobC
BobC
2 years ago
Reply to  MichaelM

Just keep an eye on the 7 swing states. The other 43 don’t really matter because we are 99% sure how they will vote!

steve
steve
2 years ago

It must be a very dull day when there’s nothing to do but fool with AI chat bots and these brainless polls.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
2 years ago

PA, WI, MI, AZ & NV are already stolen.

throw these five states into Biden’s column & re-calculate.

DJT will have to win Blue states, because most of the swing states are absolutely rigged – the dirty work has already been done.

CaptainCaveman
CaptainCaveman
2 years ago

Another fake result will not be accepted by the citizenry. The benefit of the doubt was extended ONCE, but Americans aren’t (that) stupid.

CJW
CJW
2 years ago
Reply to  CaptainCaveman

Isn’t it generally the party in power that is in a position to rig elections?

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago

What I like most about us evil Satanists cheating the vote in 2020 is that proud conservatives never ever tried to catch us, they just insisted their narrative is true without even proving it factually to themselves. That’s AWESOME.

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago

They’re so stoopid. Evidence literally everywhere… there’s a piece hanging from my coat rack ffs and another one in my sock drawer…. and they cannot produce any evidence! They are not worthy of their orange incontinent love object. They have failed him.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
2 years ago
Reply to  Sky Wizard

more ballots than registered voters in 16 urban precincts across six states… IOW, rigging/steal was a mathematical certainty.

partisan judges didn’t allow evidence into court… for “lack of standing” – a subjective, not legal, standard.

you wouldn’t know any of this because you watch cable news & eat the garbage they feed to you.

Hounddog Vigilante
Hounddog Vigilante
2 years ago

Crooked (RE: partisan) judges never allowed (mountains of) evidence into court/record… for “lack of standing” – a subjective standard that cannot be challenged.

You have NO CLUE.

Albert
Albert
2 years ago

I have no idea who is going to win (meaning I trust the betting markets as the best predictor). But I know for sure that if Trump loses once again fair and square like in 2020, we will have a constitutional crisis called Big Lie II. Although, this time Trump will have to launch a coup against the US Government from outside.

Avery
Avery
2 years ago
Reply to  Albert

Vlad will cross the Thames when nobody is looking on election night.

CaptainCaveman
CaptainCaveman
2 years ago
Reply to  Avery

What if I told you that you’ve been lied to all your life (as I was) about this boogeyman known as “Russia”, and that you fell for the programming?

Casual Observer
Casual Observer
2 years ago
Reply to  Albert

Judging by comments here Trump never lost , never did anything wrong and is always right. He’s also never been in a tanning booth or cheated on his wife !!

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago

That’s just an appetizer, wait until they reveal all of their deepest held beliefs.

el Tedo
el Tedo
2 years ago

He did plenty wrong, and some right, but for sure he didn’t (really) lose in 2020. (And I’m a likely Kennedy voter.)

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
2 years ago

Somehow, the deep state wins 100% of the time.

jo pac
jo pac
2 years ago

Yep and nothing changes for the better for us on Main Street.

Last edited 2 years ago by jo pac
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  jo pac

Only a fool would continue to believe that a proud conservative gets a fair shake ever in the USA

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago

Is the deep state in the room with us now?

Avery
Avery
2 years ago

No election, but Hillary will be the next president and Governor Fatso vp.

Roto1711
Roto1711
2 years ago
Reply to  Avery

Avery, what are you smoking?

Roto1711
Roto1711
2 years ago

If Biden wins then we know one of two possible facts. The electorate are brain dead or the election was rigged once again. I rest my case.

CaptainCaveman
CaptainCaveman
2 years ago
Reply to  Roto1711

Another fake Biden win is going to shut down the country indefinitely. There will be millions of people camped out in DC preventing the affairs of the nation from moving forward (not that they actually move “forward” anymore). I also suspect that many States will choose to simply not recognize the final result as legitimate.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  CaptainCaveman

What happens when all those people don’t have food or water, and Army weaponry trained on them?

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  Roto1711

The only case you have is the basket case that is you. Saying things don’t make them true… even if you keep saying them over and over.

Ross
Ross
2 years ago

Where’s the chart that shows Biden is brain dead?

Clarence Beeks
Clarence Beeks
2 years ago

Trump’s appearance at the Libertarian Party convention and their absurd nomination of a complete wacko for president will send 2-4% of the vote to Trump. That may be all he needs to wrap up the general election.

CaptainCaveman
CaptainCaveman
2 years ago
Reply to  Clarence Beeks

It’s been sealed for months. Black males and a few kids are all he needs and he has them now (finally). All he has to do is not drive by any grassy knolls in a convertible for 5 months (well, 5 months and four years).

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  CaptainCaveman

I know maybe 2 dozen black males. None of them are trump simps. You’ve been lied to, again, and believed it, again.

You’re just not very bright, are you?

notaname
notaname
2 years ago
Reply to  CaptainCaveman

…and stay in court, gain sympathy, don’t get overexposed. TDS is real.

Joe Poncakia
Joe Poncakia
2 years ago
Reply to  Clarence Beeks

I agree 100%. It was a stroke of genius for Trump to show independent voters who were considering a protest vote what kind of wackos have taken control of the Libertarian party. The Mises branch of the party is almost 50% and they will vote for Trump. He needs to keep going to places like the Bronx and the Lib Convention. It showed his courage and keeping cool under fire.

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  Clarence Beeks

You do know they booed him the whole time, don’t you?

Him standing there applauding himself, looking like he wanted to cry… chef’s kiss!

The Haley people won’t vote for him either. They know he’s reheated garbage.

BobC
BobC
2 years ago
Reply to  Sky Wizard

You think they’ll vote for Biden? Doubtful.

Chester
Chester
2 years ago
Reply to  BobC

Nope. But they won’t vote for the skid mark slob.

Patrick
Patrick
2 years ago

The Trumpen Proletariot. Marx was fat, sweaty and reeked of sausage fat and rotting cabbage.

Sky Wizard
Sky Wizard
2 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

Replace cabbage with hamburders and you have trump.

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