Donald Trump just gave the middle finger to millions of American voters.
Any other president who suffered the kind of drubbing at the polls that Trump did this week might have felt at least a sliver of humility – and perhaps even an obligation to work with the new opposition in Congress.
But not for the first time in his political career, Trump veered in the opposite direction. On Friday he made Stephen Miller, condemned by Democrats and civil rights groups as a white nationalist, one of the most powerful unelected officials in Washington by naming him White House chief of staff.
Miller is the architect of Trump’s far-right, nativist immigration agenda. He is, therefore, arguably the architect of the blue wave that engulfed Republicans in Tuesday’s midterm elections as voters – including many Latinos – expressed their disgust. Yet instead of firing Miller, Trump promoted him.
“In a lot of ways Stephen Miller has been the id to Trump’s authoritarian impulses and machinations,” Kurt Bardella, an adviser to Democrats in Texas, said. “I have to imagine that anointing this person chief of staff – the most powerful non-elected position in all of government – is a signal that they intend to double down on that authoritarianism.
The combination of Trump and Miller, however, takes the concept of an American Caesar to a new extreme – and flies in the face of the verdict delivered by the electorate on Tuesday.
“It’s a step that I find hard to fathom except as the president giving the middle finger to the American public,” said Bill Galston, a senior fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution thinktank in Washington.
“In the same way that he ransacked the state of Texas for the very worst senatorial nominee imaginable, now he’s done the same thing with the chief of staff position. This is simply outrageous.”
A president repudiated by the voters can bend or he can show that he won’t. Donald Trump has chosen the second, and in doing so he has revealed something about his ultimate priorities that two chaotic years of “governing” had left unclear.
Trump’s first act after the election suggests what administration officials have left unmentioned: voters did not reject what his administration did, but what it is. To retaliate against their verdict, Trump appointed as chief of staff perhaps the most widely reviled member of an administration that does not lack for unpopular figures: Stephen Miller.
With Trump showing signs of becoming even less engaged than before, Miller could end up running the country, and he will run it as he ran his immigration crackdown: by executive command, with the law treated as an obstacle rather than a boundary.
Miller is not particularly associated with the Iran debacle, high prices, or corruption. He designed no tariff and sits on no crypto board. He is Trump’s deporter-in-chief, the face of the campaign to track down and remove undocumented immigrants, and he made that campaign what it is. Miller set the quota of 3,000 arrests a day and pushed Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to seize anyone without papers, not just those with criminal records.
The result was a style of policing the United States had not seen in living memory: masked agents in unmarked cars seizing people on the street without identifying themselves and without warrants. The campaign did not spare citizens: Renée Good and Alex Pretti were shot dead by federal agents in Minneapolis. Hundreds of deportees were flown to African countries they had never seen and jailed there without charge. This is the ravenous apparatus Miller built. Its zealous operator now holds the most powerful unelected office in the US.
The voters had judged that infernal machine. Six in ten told exit pollsters they disapproved of ICE. Hispanic voters backed Democrats by nearly two to one. After Miller’s appointment, Senator Thom Tillis called it “the worst of all possible choices” and asked how so divisive a figure could be “the olive branch” to the new Democratic majorities, as if Trump wanted to offer one.
Trump did not miss this causal logic. He acted on it. Had he wanted to promote Miller without flaunting the affront to the electorate, he could have waited a month. Instead, he made the appointment three days after the midterm rout, with the exit polls still on every screen. The timing was the message. Trump even said so: Miller, he explained, is “very good politically.”
The damage to Republicans in the 2028 election is a foreseeable price. By paying it, Trump is telling the country how much the deportation rampage is worth to him: more than Congress, more than his party, more than the Hispanic voters he spent 2024 courting. Only a commitment this deep can carry a cost so glaring.
The proof came the same afternoon. Shortly before the announcement, Trump had told the news program 60 Minutes that the deportation policy “might be too tough” and floated a deal with Democrats to let long-settled workers stay. Then he turned the White House over to the architect of the policy he had just disowned. There was no contradiction. The words were for the interviewer; the insult was for the voters. He conceded the diagnosis and rejected the cure, in that order.
The appointment reveals the limits of Trump’s supposed “transactional” style. A transactional politician cuts his losses. He drops an asset the moment it stops paying, and Trump has dropped many: generals, lawyers, cabinet secretaries, the chiefs of staff he burned through at a rate of one per year during his first term. In purely electoral terms, Miller is an asset that has stopped paying. Elevating him is not a transaction. It is not electoral politics at all.
Nor is it a calculation about the two years he has left. Trump lives in the news cycle, and on election night the news cycle was his humiliation. The voters had told him, in the plainest language a democracy possesses, what they thought of his administration. The appointment of Miller was his impulsive reply. He settled a score with the electorate—the one adversary he cannot fire, sue, or deport—in the only way he could, by showing them that their verdict had not changed him. Miller has been called “the ideological id of the MAGA movement.” Trump did not promote a strategist. He promoted the id.
The promotion of Miller also tells Republicans what their future is worth to him. The late Lindsey Graham warned them earlier this year: “[T]o my colleagues who believe you can convince Donald Trump that Stephen Miller is a liability for him, good luck with that.” To win in 2028, Republicans must recover the Hispanic voters who fled because of the man Trump has just made chief of staff. Trump will not be on a ballot again. They will. Good luck with that.
Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution called the Miller appointment a middle finger to the American public. It is also a confession. In defeat, a man reveals what he cannot give up. Trump could, in principle, give up the war, the tariffs, even the money. He could not give up the moral depravity. It is the citadel he will defend to the end.
Miller Is Another Ken Paxton Type Move
Excellent Video
Many good clips. Here’s one by Sarah Matthews (Former Trump deputy press secretary).
Trump is doubling down on the crazies. He is doubling down on the failed record of the last two years. And he clearly learned nothing from the midterm elections and just doesn’t care about the redounding rebuke the voters sent him about his presidency.
Trump picked Stephen Miller because he is a loyalist and something that should really scare people at home because in these next two years he is going to be the the most powerful person in Washington because we have seen from Trump that he has checked out. He doesn’t care about governing at this point. He’s focused on his ballroom. He’s focused on his vanity projects.
Who does that leave in charge? Stephen Miller acting as the de facto president. This is someone who os the most extreme of the far right that you can imagine. And I can’t imagine that Trump is going to follow through on what he said in the aftermath of the midterms, that he would be willing to work with Democrats. Yeah, that’s not going to happen with a guy like Stephen Miller in charge. This signals there will be zero moderation and zero bipartisan governing.
Matthews served as the deputy press secretary for the Donald Trump administration from June 2020 to January 2021.She resigned from her position following the attack on the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021. Matthews was an outspoken critic of Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign.
Focus on Matthews, Not the Source
I don’t like the MSNow, and I bet most of my readers don’t either.
Instead focus on what Matthews said. It is what I said before this 60 Minutes interview.
I subscribe to the Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, the Washington Post, the New York Times, and Project Syndicate. I read countless things Left and Right and form my own views.
In this case, what Matthews said is what I have been saying for a long time.
Miller is a despicable, vile, white supremacist racist, and he is running the show.
What Impact Did Trump’s ICE Deportations Play in the Midterm Elections?
Vance admits the war, but downplays immigration. He’s wrong on the latter.
Yes, Deportations Too
It was the war. It was inflation. It was corruption.
Israel? That mattered to Michigan, perhaps.
But in general, it was a total repudiation of everything Trump, including deportations.
Heavy-handed deportations and farm policy mattered in Texas, Kansas, Ohio, and Iowa.
The Hispanic vote in Texas was exceptionally angry at deportations. It contributed to the Texas election massacre and may easily have been the final impetus to get rid of Abbott.
Paxton sunk the Texas Senate. My belief is Paxton plus ICE brought down Abbott.
What Will Trump Do?
I can tell you that every time Trump has hinted at realistic policy, the racist wing of MAGA led by Stephen Miller has won out.
As long as Miller is around, he will push for racist, economically illiterate policy. I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate that racist moron and everything he stands for.
With that, Trump just signaled who is calling the shots.
Nonetheless, I will tell you this. Governors in Texas, Georgia, Ohio, Iowa, and Kansas are now going to revolt hard on ICE policy.
Since last year, judges have ruled that the Trump administration has deported more than 170 people in violation of court orders, in defiance of legally mandated due process protections, or to countries from which they had sought or received protection from torture and persecution.
Let Me Put This Politely
Fuck ICE
Shut it down.
Go after every abuse.
Investigate Border CZAR Tom Homan who is accused of accepting bribes
Launch a Congressional Investigation of ICE prisons
To repeat: Fuck ICE. That is coming from someone who wants the criminals deported, all of then. Trump had a chance to do this right.
Few would have objected if he did. Most would have cheered, including me.
Unfortunately, Trump let racists like Miller set policy. The economically illiterate MAGA racists cheered.
Under Miller’s direction, ICE has made so many errors with inane quotas, lack of training, and miserable detention centers that the only sensible action is to start all over with something sensible.
Key Trump Statements Ahead of the 2024 Election
Trump “There are some human questions that get in the way of being perfect, and we have to have the heart, too.”
Trump said in a recent interview with NBC, that he wanted to work with Democrats to come up with legislation to protect Dreamers, immigrants in the U.S. illegally who were brought as children, from deportation.
Have to Have a Heart
Trump: “We have a lot of good people in this country, and we have to do something about it.”
Trump: “This has been going on for a long time. It’s a complicated subject.”
“There are some human questions that get in the way of being perfect, and we have to have the heart, too.”
Trump said he wanted to work with Democrats to come up with legislation to protect Dreamers, immigrants in the U.S. illegally who were brought as children, from deportation.
Those statements were in two interviews, one with NBC and the other with the Wall Street Journal
How many people know that Trump said those things?
Now he is repeating the lies.
Expect to see more House Reps and Senators breaking with Trump after this election massacre.
Mish Proposal
Republicans and Democrats must work together on immigration reforms that address labor shortages and inflation, and protect people already in the U.S. and contributing to their communities.
In return for sensible amnesty policy, I request states cooperate with the Federal government to deport criminals.
We would not need ICE to do that. So, defund it, entirely. But don’t open the floodgates again.
Extreme policies backfired on Biden, then Trump.
To break the cycle, we need to get rid of Miller, stop listening to racists like Elon Musk, stop listening to the economically illiterate MAGA fools on X, and focus on something sensible that a huge majority can back.
Instead of something sensible, Trump doubled down.
Biggest FY in History
The appointment of Miller is the biggest FY to the nation in history.
The Miller racists won every time Trump hinted at doing something sensible. MAGA cheered, of course.
But those policies and Gestapo tactics contributed to losses in Texas, Iowa, Ohio, and Kansas.
Trump just signaled he will continue economically illiterate, racist policies. This will continue until it blows up, just like everything Trump touches eventually blows up.
Reaction to 60 Minutes in Advance
Ignore the dates my posts between November 7 and November 9. They were written between November 4 and November 6.
I was on a three day overnight backpacking trip in Grand-Staircase Escante National Monument.
Hey, I’m Alive!
Back today from 3-day backpacking trip in Grand-Staircase Escalante. Had two near disasters with quicksand.
In the worst one, I had to pull someone out who was sinking in up to his hips. Fortunately our arms were close enough that I could reach him, barely. It took all my strength to pull him out.
The recent rains made a mess of the roads and trails. Never got to the spot we wanted to reach. 16 miles out and back with a 36-lb pack. Impending darkness stopped us 0.5 miles short but 2 miles beyond our campsite.
Camped overnight. I had literally zero sleep in 12 hours in the tent and had very painful leg cramps most of that time. The next day, we elected to leave. I could not take another night like that.
There are Chinese models that are very good but you can’t buy them here anymore – tariffs and bans. You need to fly to Taiwan or anywhere in Asia to buy them just like BYD cars.
and the tech improves every few months so next model will likely be way better. At some point someone will figure out how to attach a solar panel so they fly all day.
i’m still flabbergasted we cannot register an BYD in the states. how idiotic. we’ve become like the old iron curtain in reverse. long live pax dumbfuckistan. most morons will believe voting blue or red uniparty will change anything. that always makes me LOL.
trump is gonna pull an LBJ. when that old southern racist did the right thing. his quote about writing off the Ds in the south was dead on, back then. read all the Caro books for the best amerikan history. MAGA is just dixiecrats reincarnated.
lived in AZ for 13 years. did lots of hiking. always saw people really come close to death not packing enough water……..down on the border the native americans and the church ladies would put HUGE water tanks in the border crossing regions for the migrant children women and men……..crazy stuff down there. you had the native americans who let them all come over their lands……..the border posse people with their guns and the coyotes leading the migrants…………houses in our hood were prisons for the migrants until families came to pay for their release. scottsdale AZ. if you can believe that. a hood, where we all had swimming pools and tennis courts on golf courses………….i was shocked at the brazenness of the mexican cartel. some of my buddies representated them as attorneys. one was a hard core libertarian USMC vet of the afghanistan episode.
Mish saves grown men and takes off his dried quicksand-encrusted hiking boots next to his house’s welcome mat as a winner instead of killing schoolgirls for Epsteins and coming home a loser.
Welcome back I am in agreement with you that criminal illegal immigrants should be deported.
Now as of today Tom Massie is trying to get hegseth impeached tried punished and remove. This must also be done to chump trump. The stephen miller creep would have no power if chump trump was removed from office.
I hope that you get healthy and drink lots of water and ginger ale with cane sugar. I have been backpacking hiking and camping very often and perhaps you are dehydrated.
Thanks.
I take 3 forms of Magnesium and had it with me,
Glycinate, Citrate, and Malate. Probably should have doubled my doses.
I take it every day at home and frequent cramps vanished.
I take B, C, and D. Every day. Turmeric, Quercetin, and Resveratrol.
I likely was dehydrated.
This was a very strenuous hike, at least for me. 16 miles with a 36lb backpack when I don’t normally backpack.
I am 73 years old.
damn. that’s good. my wife walks 20 miles, all the time. we are both in our 60s. i do about 3 miles per day walking. we’ve shared one auto with 6 family drivers for the past few decades………..new york city folk tend to be in best shape.
that is perfectly wonderful. walking and yoga is the only thing for me the past decade or so. i’m mid 60s. less is more. all these old pals of mine try and prove something i’m not sure what. i find it hysterical really. i remember meeting an old man, in his 50s, on top of a mountain in adirondacks about 45 years ago. we wondered how the hell he got up there. we were young. he told us he grew up on that mountain. really remote area. pharoah mountain. i think was the name. i remember watching that kook i think named willig who scaled the twin towers………..we watched gasping……….the french dude, too. tight roping across.
try chlorella. very popular in japan. been taking it for decades. my best friend a 65 year old iron worker in NYC who looks half his age turned me onto it. he works 50 stories up all weather exposed to high winds and snow……..i haven’t had a day in hospital in all my life. Chlorella is a single-celled, green freshwater microalgae
Magnesium (glycinate) is key for cramps, and for absorning electrolytes and Vitamin D. It is often #2 in expert recommendations for “Top”/must vitamins.
Thanks.
I take 3 forms of Magnesium and had it with me,
Glycinate, Citrate, and Malate. Probably should have doubled my doses.
I take it every day at home and frequent cramps vanished.
I take B, C, and D. Every day. Turmeric, Quercetin, and Resveratrol.
I likely was dehydrated.
This was a very strenuous hike, at least for me. 16 miles with a 36lb backpack when I don’t normally backpack.
I am 73 years old.
The part where you saved the dude in quicksand, just barely reaching him in the nick of time and exerting maximum strength to save him from a sloppy entombment was like a real-life 1980s CBS Saturday morning cartoon or Tuesday night prime time come to life. I bet it felt surreal, one of those things that only happens on TV fiction until it’s actually happening in real life.
I don’t think it was quite that dramatic, but thanks!
Tony
1 hour ago
What else would you expect from a contrite, self-centered, vindicative pos?
Sentient
2 hours ago
In an earlier thread, I argued that the deportations (and by extension ICE behavior) didn’t affect the elections much. I was wrong. Creamer rightly took me to task for making assertions about public opinion that I couldn’t support with evidence. I still think attacking Iran was the biggest reason for the blowout last week, since that was the biggest betrayal of Trump’s campaign promises, but I may be projecting because attacking Iran was the thing that pissed me off the most.
MMchenryCFA
4 hours ago
Wow, Trump asks for a bobcat to keep digging his hole.
The nut job NOW is floating this was a “rigged election”! Just keep burning down MAGA and the GOP. Couldn’t happen to a more fitting group.
WHAT A COMBINATION OF IGNORANCE + ARROGANCE + INSANTITY.
““Does anybody really believe that this ‘Election’ was honest,” Mr. Trump wrote on Monday on social media, renewing his efforts to sow doubt about the outcome in the face of staggering Democratic wins. “How could the Polls be so wrong??? Some early voting ‘dumps’ were so large that it was impossible to win, no matter how many people went to vote. It’s all about the machines, which are far more important than the voter!”
Read somewhere that potus is a democratic progressive PLANT.
He is now an democratic SOCIALIST
PLANT!
FROSTY ASKED, “who does potus work for?”
BigBob
4 hours ago
The Chief Pedophile of the United States may have given the Dems a huge gift in 2028. The Presidency along with even more governorships and state legislatures. After two years of Miller’s dictatorship in 2028 there won’t be enough Republican office holders to fill a school bus!
Ed Campbell
5 hours ago
Trump going to abolish congress and anoint Stephen Miller as the new American Fuhrer?
peelo
6 hours ago
I want a federal. government with checks and balances. The parties are here in large part to keep each other honest, vigilant and accountable. Trump’s overreach here (and elsewhere) threatens that in the opposite direction.
Meanwhile, popcorn ready, as he spirals.
JohnF
6 hours ago
“Trump Gives the Nation a Big FY Middle Finger”
Zionist Trump Agenda – (‘FINISHING OFF – Iran’) Gen W. Clark 2001 For ‘Greater Israel’.!
Epstein’s MOSSAD PDF Blackmail Network Ran From The Late 1990s to 2019.!
Billionaire Donald J. Trump – “My Friends Will Get Hurt”
Both Parties Merging ‘US/Israeli’ Military Under NDAA (2026).!
remember under obama the NDAA codified extra judicial execution. including US citizens. that means whatever the CIA wants to kill they kill.
MMchenryCFA
6 hours ago
Classic Just can’t stop digging. Textbook case for the ages.
Just making sure he burns MAGA to the ground, and taking some more with it.
Just keep taking more rope Trump. As I say, just leave enough slack we can reach a high branch.
Webej
6 hours ago
Ha Ha. LoL
Here we are again discussing the possible dimensions to the blithering slogans uttered by the moron-in chief toddler from within his own delusional simulacrum.
Buffalobob
6 hours ago
Instead of the Gestapo tactics of ICE, a very effective tool to control immigration would be to address the demand side of the equation. Focus on US employers who hire illegals. There is a voluntary system in place called E-verify, where participating employers can check the status of potential hires. Make it mandatory, with significant fines for employer non-compliance.
Another demand side tool would be to greatly restrict the use of 12-1B visas. Designed to allow the hire of very highly skilled, specialized candidates, it is grossly abused by employers in technology fields. Many Fortune 500 IT departments are staffed almost exclusively by South Asian 12-1B hires, while American IT graduates cannot find jobs. It’s cheaper to bribe US politicians and employ, basically, indentured servants from 3rd world countries, than to hire US kids with superior skills.
The heavy handed “war” against illegal immigration is merely a side-show for the rubes while actual government policy is a sloppy wet kiss to the Chamber of Commerce and large employers that seek cheap, controllable labor.
I have explained many times why that does not work and why Republican governors don’t want it.
It’s 90%. It will immediately kill about 90% of those jobs. Immediate labor shortages on farming, ranching, home building, hotels, food services. Prices would soar.
Same practical effect as deport them all. Economically stupid.
Instead of implementing BuffaloBob’s proposal all at once, implement it gradually so that markets have time to adapt. Maybe use prison labor for farming.
Well then regulate it, make exemptions for jobs that US citizens cannot or will not fill, make sure they are safe and pay minimum wages. Instead you prefer a predatory capitalist free for all, where workers, both legal an illegal get screwed, and all benefits accrue to business owner.
You seem to assume that the US capital system can only exist if there is a working class Untermensch who must suffer to provide lower cost for farming, ranching, home building, hotels, food service.
I thought we had a civil war about that.
Other than crop-picking there is not a single job that pays under minimum wage. For the most part, government collects taxes including SS for with the illegals accrue no benefits. There is no practical way to implement this over time (only report 20%, have a lottery who goes and stays?)
The compromise position is exactly along the lines of what I have proposed. Amnesty in return for helping deport criminals. Path to citizenship for those who have been here 7 years or have a citizen spouse or have citizen children. Hard border enforcement going ahead.
Trump can do this now or there will be no compromise in 2028. That is the choice.
sounds idiotic. you want to make employers into immigration deputies? jesus fucking christ. have you ever owned a construction company or similar in the southwest ? my god the amerikan people really are nazis.
Naphtali
6 hours ago
I’ll fish for a few downvotes.
The Republicans can begin rebuilding support by joining hands with the Democrats in removing Trump from office. Next, proffer Trump and his war buddies to the world court for prosecution for initiating an unlawful war and murder of Iranians including school children. Lastly, press for a constitutional amendment limiting money in the political process.
ha ha. this is pax dumbfuckistan. we bomb the world. end of story.
Dean
7 hours ago
Both parties continue to raise their middle fingers to voters by bringing morons to the table. How many millions of people in this country and we can’t find a decent candidate without serious issues. Both parties are a joke. My personal belief is that voting for the lessor evil is still voting for evil, which I refuse to do. F’ck all the politicians in both parties.
Leaders never get there on their own. Always someone funding campaigns or helping them on the campaign trail etc. Once in power you are expected to install those people in your cabinet and other important posts regardless of whether or not they are qualified.
Then for the rest, the big money lobbyists decide who gets those spots because of the you know, the money.
Occasionally a decent qualified person manages to get into a spot but if they rock the boat (the money gravy train of big monied interests) they quickly find themselves unable to do anything substantial.
Ron Paul is a good example of that. I think he had more than 300 co-sponsors for his House bill to audit the Fed, but could never even get a vote on it.
SavyinDallas
7 hours ago
Trump is a corrupt, pedophile criminal idiot who knows nothing about anything, other than the fact that he was installed by anti-American globalists/Zionists/corporatists to do their bidding-both in 2016 and 2024. He is a despicable human being, though you must also blame his base, but also the democrats who had their own controlled corrupt, incompetent puppets nominated and who gave Americans very little choice. Heads I win, tails you lose. With Schumer and Jeffries at the top leading the now in control democrats, I doubt there will be any meaningful change. The elites and special interests win again. I remain hopeful-as we really have no choice but to hope for the best.
El Capitan
7 hours ago
That’s the thing about Republicans and their “policies” It always comes down to racism and the racists are dying off. Young people aren’t nearly as racist as older people.
With the Tea Party, it was just a racist uprising against the nation having elected a black man. With Trump and the Trumpers, so much of it was that he made them feel good and ok with bringing their racism out in the open. Against blacks, women, muslims, trans, any “other” that you can think of, they enjoyed denigrating.
Now it appears that enough of the old racists have died off, and enough of those still around couldn’t take it anymore and changed sides or didn’t vote.
And then there’s those still around and with the cause. “Some say…” that the elections were rigged (I’ve even seen a post going around with some graphics that purport to show the “mathematical impossibility” of the vote counts, which I think was reposted by Trump. Other of them seem to think that the reason they lost is because the didn’t “finish the job” in Iran, and still others are convinced that the real issue is that he is not deporting enough people….
The election was a strong rebuke from the citizens. Now lets see if republican politicians, who have, up til now, fecklessly joined the cult or been willing to remain silent, will stand up with a rebuke of dear leader themselves.
While those people exist, there is simply a lot less of them than there were in the past. Younger people grow up with black people in their schools, asians, various latins, Indians. They also see more openly gay people in their youth than during my childhood. There will always be some racists, but, less and less each day.
aye aye, very true. been going to college for most of the last 48 years. been around young folks since i was one. back then the racism was brutal and overt. the college students today don’t tolerate racism. you should have seen the shout downs in my poli sci class, in manhattan and brooklyn…..
when the israeli v palestine debates………a few racist jews in class with overt racism were handed their asses by 95% of the class. including many jews.
the reason they lost is because the didn’t “finish the job” in Iran, and still others are convinced that the real issue is that he is not deporting enough people….
‘With the Tea Party, it was just a racist uprising against the nation having elected a black man.’
Let me rephrase that:
With the Tea Party, it was just an uprising against the nation having elected a man who bailed out the bankster crooks who demolished the global financial system.
yup. W the dumber and the new incoming Obama bailed out the wall street bankers and foreclosed on towns like phoenix and orlando. first meeting obama took was with the insurance boys to screw the young people with obamacare.
The “Tea Party” phrase itself came from Rick Santelli on CNBC who is a total finance guy, against freshly proposed government bailouts of individual borrower/homeowners who took losses. That remark was not aimed at your “banksters.” It was more aimed at remedial handout policies for the economically careless “little guy” borrowers being discussed in the incoming Obama era. It wasn’t some kind of neo-Brandeis anti-banker screed. Here is the original clip
Trump will continue to sink back into his standard self-justifying narcissistic hallucinations (you listed), as he has done before. He constructs a world where he is always the savior who is cheated.
He momentarily pretends to make nice, and barely makes it a few seconds. He will go down like that, with that same defiant fist-waving gesture as in his favorite press photo, even as he sinks into his own quicksand.
Scott ellis
7 hours ago
Lindsay Graham had no problem convincing Trump to Pearl Harbor Iran. After this all settles in a week or two give your perspective on how we should handle the 10 million aliens admitted under Biden. Thanks.
Democritus
7 hours ago
“Miller is a despicable, vile, white supremacist racist, and he is running the show.”
Probably not from his education then…
Upbringing: He attended Hebrew school and had his Bar Mitzvah at a Reform Jewish congregation in California.
why would that upbringing NOT produce a downright racist and jewish nazi. he looked down on mexican amerikans since he was a child. bar mitzvahs are the ultimate nihilist and narcissist cult sacrament.
OK, so white Americans, South Africans, Israelis, Nordics.
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yippee
7 hours ago
democracy works. assholes will always elect assholes. amerikans are 95% assholes. the few folks that vote libertarian are green are the freaky minority. democracy works. see ancient greeks and romans who invented this game.
I consider people as a virus: The early ones were potent and spread slowly. The later generations have become impotent and reproduce very quickly. Humanity’s intelligence is decreasing every generation as our DNA mutates. Neither Biden nor Trump should have been nominated candidates. Monopolies are just as bad as open borders.
i do consider idiocracy the best documentary for our generations in amerika. there is a tiny minority that are thinkers. same as it ever was. we are primates. our social structures and leaders are the same as other primates.
Brutus Admirer
7 hours ago
This is primarily the pro-war Mockingbird media diverting attention away from the main reason the public repudiated Trump. The war he started in direct contradiction to his main campaign promise.
Trump is actually trying to keep the campaign promise about reversing the invasion of 30 million illegals under Biden. Having gotten elected on that promise to a large extent, it is unlikely to be anywhere close to the major factor motivating his richly deserved repudiation. Heck, it is one of the few campaign promises he has tried to keep, and it isn’t a co-incidence that crime is down with the deportation of the worst.
Crime statistics have been dropping for decades. Just a continuing trend. The most likely overall explanation is the banning of lead paint and leaded gasoline in the 1980s.
That there is any crime at all is due to enforced poverty, gutting of social safety nets and de-emphasis on education. Deporting 5% of the population won’t move that needle noticeably, especially when the vast majority of that 5% contribute positively to society and perform jobs that most Americans won’t do, as Mish has proved ad nauseum.
ROE V WADE was the reason crime came down. underclass and underage gals could abort a baby they did not want. didn’t happen much before. i know there were plenty of wire hanger abortions but not like post Roe. i think Roe was great freedom for females and their partners……..
Murders surged in 2021, 2022, & 2023. 22563 murders in 2021 versus 17413 murders in 2016. Murders and violent crime both went up with the invasion of 30 million illegals. The stats don’t lie.
People have probably stopped reporting property crime because the police don’t do anything about it. That may be the trend you are thinking about.
Augustine
7 hours ago
Electing the Orangutan was a big fat pedophile grifting middle finger that Usonians gave themselves.
Hey, I’m Alive!
Back today from 3-day backpacking trip in Grand-Staircase Escalante. Had two near disasters with quicksand.
In the worst one, I had to pull someone out who was sinking in up to his hips. Fortunately our arms were close enough that I could reach him, barely. It took all my strength to pull him out.
The recent rains made a mess of the roads and trails. Never got to the spot we wanted to reach. 16 miles out and back with a 36-lb pack. Impending darkness stopped us 0.5 miles short but 2 miles beyond our campsite.
Camped overnight. I had literally zero sleep in 12 hours in the tent and had very painful leg cramps most of that time. The next day, we elected to leave. I could not take another night like that.
So close and yet so far.
Next time take a small drone and have it scout before you set off. Well worth the price so you don’t end up dead.
Drone won’t go 8 miles and 36 lbs was already too much.
https://www.dji.com/mavic-3-pro/specs
Weight: 335.5 g
Distance: 28km
And you can try aerial photography as a bonus.
Only 43 minutes of flight time so would need to use it sparingly over 3+ days.
There are Chinese models that are very good but you can’t buy them here anymore – tariffs and bans. You need to fly to Taiwan or anywhere in Asia to buy them just like BYD cars.
and the tech improves every few months so next model will likely be way better. At some point someone will figure out how to attach a solar panel so they fly all day.
i’m still flabbergasted we cannot register an BYD in the states. how idiotic. we’ve become like the old iron curtain in reverse. long live pax dumbfuckistan. most morons will believe voting blue or red uniparty will change anything. that always makes me LOL.
glad you didn’t die out there, old sport. very easy to do out in that part of the country. go for a stroll with your camera at your age, is my advice.
Hey, where’s my Mishelin for calling this ahead of the 60 Minutes interview and subsequent reaction elsewhere?
I was going to post one but then read about your disaster and figured saving your life was a better use of my time.
But here you go.
3-Star Mishelin award for calling it early yet again.
trump is gonna pull an LBJ. when that old southern racist did the right thing. his quote about writing off the Ds in the south was dead on, back then. read all the Caro books for the best amerikan history. MAGA is just dixiecrats reincarnated.
lived in AZ for 13 years. did lots of hiking. always saw people really come close to death not packing enough water……..down on the border the native americans and the church ladies would put HUGE water tanks in the border crossing regions for the migrant children women and men……..crazy stuff down there. you had the native americans who let them all come over their lands……..the border posse people with their guns and the coyotes leading the migrants…………houses in our hood were prisons for the migrants until families came to pay for their release. scottsdale AZ. if you can believe that. a hood, where we all had swimming pools and tennis courts on golf courses………….i was shocked at the brazenness of the mexican cartel. some of my buddies representated them as attorneys. one was a hard core libertarian USMC vet of the afghanistan episode.
yikes. sounds like you joined the make believe military and had a thrill. next time go to a war zone……..bring it up a notch.
Mish saves grown men and takes off his dried quicksand-encrusted hiking boots next to his house’s welcome mat as a winner instead of killing schoolgirls for Epsteins and coming home a loser.
Welcome back I am in agreement with you that criminal illegal immigrants should be deported.
Now as of today Tom Massie is trying to get hegseth impeached tried punished and remove. This must also be done to chump trump. The stephen miller creep would have no power if chump trump was removed from office.
I hope that you get healthy and drink lots of water and ginger ale with cane sugar. I have been backpacking hiking and camping very often and perhaps you are dehydrated.
Thanks.
I take 3 forms of Magnesium and had it with me,
Glycinate, Citrate, and Malate. Probably should have doubled my doses.
I take it every day at home and frequent cramps vanished.
I take B, C, and D. Every day. Turmeric, Quercetin, and Resveratrol.
I likely was dehydrated.
This was a very strenuous hike, at least for me. 16 miles with a 36lb backpack when I don’t normally backpack.
I am 73 years old.
damn. that’s good. my wife walks 20 miles, all the time. we are both in our 60s. i do about 3 miles per day walking. we’ve shared one auto with 6 family drivers for the past few decades………..new york city folk tend to be in best shape.
I walk two miles every day Thats pretty good for me
that is perfectly wonderful. walking and yoga is the only thing for me the past decade or so. i’m mid 60s. less is more. all these old pals of mine try and prove something i’m not sure what. i find it hysterical really. i remember meeting an old man, in his 50s, on top of a mountain in adirondacks about 45 years ago. we wondered how the hell he got up there. we were young. he told us he grew up on that mountain. really remote area. pharoah mountain. i think was the name. i remember watching that kook i think named willig who scaled the twin towers………..we watched gasping……….the french dude, too. tight roping across.
try chlorella. very popular in japan. been taking it for decades. my best friend a 65 year old iron worker in NYC who looks half his age turned me onto it. he works 50 stories up all weather exposed to high winds and snow……..i haven’t had a day in hospital in all my life. Chlorella is a single-celled, green freshwater microalgae
I salute you
In addition to drinking water vitamins b and d should help
Alternative medicine get a good massage and do not tell your wife
Magnesium (glycinate) is key for cramps, and for absorning electrolytes and Vitamin D. It is often #2 in expert recommendations for “Top”/must vitamins.
Thanks.
I take 3 forms of Magnesium and had it with me,
Glycinate, Citrate, and Malate. Probably should have doubled my doses.
I take it every day at home and frequent cramps vanished.
I take B, C, and D. Every day. Turmeric, Quercetin, and Resveratrol.
I likely was dehydrated.
This was a very strenuous hike, at least for me. 16 miles with a 36lb backpack when I don’t normally backpack.
I am 73 years old.
Ah. Sounds like me.
My family always warns off new candidates from embarking on vacations with me.
They like to characterize them as ‘near death experiences’.
Guessing the quicksand saves took a lot of time and energy out of both you and the other person. Likely the difference between getting there and not.
glad you’re back and safe. hope that you got a mental battery recharge from the craziness going on, in spite of the physical challenges of your hike.
The part where you saved the dude in quicksand, just barely reaching him in the nick of time and exerting maximum strength to save him from a sloppy entombment was like a real-life 1980s CBS Saturday morning cartoon or Tuesday night prime time come to life. I bet it felt surreal, one of those things that only happens on TV fiction until it’s actually happening in real life.
I don’t think it was quite that dramatic, but thanks!
What else would you expect from a contrite, self-centered, vindicative pos?
In an earlier thread, I argued that the deportations (and by extension ICE behavior) didn’t affect the elections much. I was wrong. Creamer rightly took me to task for making assertions about public opinion that I couldn’t support with evidence. I still think attacking Iran was the biggest reason for the blowout last week, since that was the biggest betrayal of Trump’s campaign promises, but I may be projecting because attacking Iran was the thing that pissed me off the most.
Wow, Trump asks for a bobcat to keep digging his hole.
The nut job NOW is floating this was a “rigged election”! Just keep burning down MAGA and the GOP. Couldn’t happen to a more fitting group.
WHAT A COMBINATION OF IGNORANCE + ARROGANCE + INSANTITY.
““Does anybody really believe that this ‘Election’ was honest,” Mr. Trump wrote on Monday on social media, renewing his efforts to sow doubt about the outcome in the face of staggering Democratic wins. “How could the Polls be so wrong??? Some early voting ‘dumps’ were so large that it was impossible to win, no matter how many people went to vote. It’s all about the machines, which are far more important than the voter!”
Read somewhere that potus is a democratic progressive PLANT.
He is now an democratic SOCIALIST
PLANT!
FROSTY ASKED, “who does potus work for?”
The Chief Pedophile of the United States may have given the Dems a huge gift in 2028. The Presidency along with even more governorships and state legislatures. After two years of Miller’s dictatorship in 2028 there won’t be enough Republican office holders to fill a school bus!
Trump going to abolish congress and anoint Stephen Miller as the new American Fuhrer?
I want a federal. government with checks and balances. The parties are here in large part to keep each other honest, vigilant and accountable. Trump’s overreach here (and elsewhere) threatens that in the opposite direction.
Meanwhile, popcorn ready, as he spirals.
“Trump Gives the Nation a Big FY Middle Finger”
Zionist Trump Agenda – (‘FINISHING OFF – Iran’) Gen W. Clark 2001 For ‘Greater Israel’.!
Epstein’s MOSSAD PDF Blackmail Network Ran From The Late 1990s to 2019.!
Billionaire Donald J. Trump – “My Friends Will Get Hurt”
Both Parties Merging ‘US/Israeli’ Military Under NDAA (2026).!
remember under obama the NDAA codified extra judicial execution. including US citizens. that means whatever the CIA wants to kill they kill.
Classic Just can’t stop digging. Textbook case for the ages.
Just making sure he burns MAGA to the ground, and taking some more with it.
Just keep taking more rope Trump. As I say, just leave enough slack we can reach a high branch.
Ha Ha. LoL
Here we are again discussing the possible dimensions to the blithering slogans uttered by the moron-in chief toddler from within his own delusional simulacrum.
Instead of the Gestapo tactics of ICE, a very effective tool to control immigration would be to address the demand side of the equation. Focus on US employers who hire illegals. There is a voluntary system in place called E-verify, where participating employers can check the status of potential hires. Make it mandatory, with significant fines for employer non-compliance.
Another demand side tool would be to greatly restrict the use of 12-1B visas. Designed to allow the hire of very highly skilled, specialized candidates, it is grossly abused by employers in technology fields. Many Fortune 500 IT departments are staffed almost exclusively by South Asian 12-1B hires, while American IT graduates cannot find jobs. It’s cheaper to bribe US politicians and employ, basically, indentured servants from 3rd world countries, than to hire US kids with superior skills.
The heavy handed “war” against illegal immigration is merely a side-show for the rubes while actual government policy is a sloppy wet kiss to the Chamber of Commerce and large employers that seek cheap, controllable labor.
I have explained many times why that does not work and why Republican governors don’t want it.
It’s 90%. It will immediately kill about 90% of those jobs. Immediate labor shortages on farming, ranching, home building, hotels, food services. Prices would soar.
Same practical effect as deport them all. Economically stupid.
Instead of implementing BuffaloBob’s proposal all at once, implement it gradually so that markets have time to adapt. Maybe use prison labor for farming.
Well then regulate it, make exemptions for jobs that US citizens cannot or will not fill, make sure they are safe and pay minimum wages. Instead you prefer a predatory capitalist free for all, where workers, both legal an illegal get screwed, and all benefits accrue to business owner.
You seem to assume that the US capital system can only exist if there is a working class Untermensch who must suffer to provide lower cost for farming, ranching, home building, hotels, food service.
I thought we had a civil war about that.
Other than crop-picking there is not a single job that pays under minimum wage. For the most part, government collects taxes including SS for with the illegals accrue no benefits. There is no practical way to implement this over time (only report 20%, have a lottery who goes and stays?)
The compromise position is exactly along the lines of what I have proposed. Amnesty in return for helping deport criminals. Path to citizenship for those who have been here 7 years or have a citizen spouse or have citizen children. Hard border enforcement going ahead.
Trump can do this now or there will be no compromise in 2028. That is the choice.
sounds idiotic. you want to make employers into immigration deputies? jesus fucking christ. have you ever owned a construction company or similar in the southwest ? my god the amerikan people really are nazis.
I’ll fish for a few downvotes.
The Republicans can begin rebuilding support by joining hands with the Democrats in removing Trump from office. Next, proffer Trump and his war buddies to the world court for prosecution for initiating an unlawful war and murder of Iranians including school children. Lastly, press for a constitutional amendment limiting money in the political process.
Might as well add world peace to your list as long as you are wishing for things that will never happen.
ha ha. this is pax dumbfuckistan. we bomb the world. end of story.
Both parties continue to raise their middle fingers to voters by bringing morons to the table. How many millions of people in this country and we can’t find a decent candidate without serious issues. Both parties are a joke. My personal belief is that voting for the lessor evil is still voting for evil, which I refuse to do. F’ck all the politicians in both parties.
Leaders never get there on their own. Always someone funding campaigns or helping them on the campaign trail etc. Once in power you are expected to install those people in your cabinet and other important posts regardless of whether or not they are qualified.
Then for the rest, the big money lobbyists decide who gets those spots because of the you know, the money.
Occasionally a decent qualified person manages to get into a spot but if they rock the boat (the money gravy train of big monied interests) they quickly find themselves unable to do anything substantial.
Ron Paul is a good example of that. I think he had more than 300 co-sponsors for his House bill to audit the Fed, but could never even get a vote on it.
Trump is a corrupt, pedophile criminal idiot who knows nothing about anything, other than the fact that he was installed by anti-American globalists/Zionists/corporatists to do their bidding-both in 2016 and 2024. He is a despicable human being, though you must also blame his base, but also the democrats who had their own controlled corrupt, incompetent puppets nominated and who gave Americans very little choice. Heads I win, tails you lose. With Schumer and Jeffries at the top leading the now in control democrats, I doubt there will be any meaningful change. The elites and special interests win again. I remain hopeful-as we really have no choice but to hope for the best.
That’s the thing about Republicans and their “policies” It always comes down to racism and the racists are dying off. Young people aren’t nearly as racist as older people.
With the Tea Party, it was just a racist uprising against the nation having elected a black man. With Trump and the Trumpers, so much of it was that he made them feel good and ok with bringing their racism out in the open. Against blacks, women, muslims, trans, any “other” that you can think of, they enjoyed denigrating.
Now it appears that enough of the old racists have died off, and enough of those still around couldn’t take it anymore and changed sides or didn’t vote.
And then there’s those still around and with the cause. “Some say…” that the elections were rigged (I’ve even seen a post going around with some graphics that purport to show the “mathematical impossibility” of the vote counts, which I think was reposted by Trump. Other of them seem to think that the reason they lost is because the didn’t “finish the job” in Iran, and still others are convinced that the real issue is that he is not deporting enough people….
The election was a strong rebuke from the citizens. Now lets see if republican politicians, who have, up til now, fecklessly joined the cult or been willing to remain silent, will stand up with a rebuke of dear leader themselves.
“Young people aren’t nearly as racist as older people.”
Proud bois? Trump bros? I don’t think the “active clubs” (code for “skinhead fight club”) we are seeing more of are peopled by retirees and geezers.
While those people exist, there is simply a lot less of them than there were in the past. Younger people grow up with black people in their schools, asians, various latins, Indians. They also see more openly gay people in their youth than during my childhood. There will always be some racists, but, less and less each day.
““Young people aren’t nearly as racist as older people.”
Totally agree – on average.
aye aye, very true. been going to college for most of the last 48 years. been around young folks since i was one. back then the racism was brutal and overt. the college students today don’t tolerate racism. you should have seen the shout downs in my poli sci class, in manhattan and brooklyn…..
when the israeli v palestine debates………a few racist jews in class with overt racism were handed their asses by 95% of the class. including many jews.
the reason they lost is because the didn’t “finish the job” in Iran, and still others are convinced that the real issue is that he is not deporting enough people….
They want to deport the Commander in Chief.
It was another war with no goals or plans, that is what we do
‘With the Tea Party, it was just a racist uprising against the nation having elected a black man.’
Let me rephrase that:
With the Tea Party, it was just an uprising against the nation having elected a man who bailed out the bankster crooks who demolished the global financial system.
Nothing to do with ‘RACISM.’
yup. W the dumber and the new incoming Obama bailed out the wall street bankers and foreclosed on towns like phoenix and orlando. first meeting obama took was with the insurance boys to screw the young people with obamacare.
The “Tea Party” phrase itself came from Rick Santelli on CNBC who is a total finance guy, against freshly proposed government bailouts of individual borrower/homeowners who took losses. That remark was not aimed at your “banksters.” It was more aimed at remedial handout policies for the economically careless “little guy” borrowers being discussed in the incoming Obama era. It wasn’t some kind of neo-Brandeis anti-banker screed. Here is the original clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp-Jw-5Kx8k
yup. santelli is a cunt. though smart.
Nonetheless, no bankster received any negative consequence for the catastrophe.
Instead, they were rewarded with massive golden parachutes.
Trump will continue to sink back into his standard self-justifying narcissistic hallucinations (you listed), as he has done before. He constructs a world where he is always the savior who is cheated.
He momentarily pretends to make nice, and barely makes it a few seconds. He will go down like that, with that same defiant fist-waving gesture as in his favorite press photo, even as he sinks into his own quicksand.
Lindsay Graham had no problem convincing Trump to Pearl Harbor Iran. After this all settles in a week or two give your perspective on how we should handle the 10 million aliens admitted under Biden. Thanks.
“Miller is a despicable, vile, white supremacist racist, and he is running the show.”
Probably not from his education then…
Upbringing: He attended Hebrew school and had his Bar Mitzvah at a Reform Jewish congregation in California.
why would that upbringing NOT produce a downright racist and jewish nazi. he looked down on mexican amerikans since he was a child. bar mitzvahs are the ultimate nihilist and narcissist cult sacrament.
So he’s Jewish, the comment still applies.
OK, so white Americans, South Africans, Israelis, Nordics.
democracy works. assholes will always elect assholes. amerikans are 95% assholes. the few folks that vote libertarian are green are the freaky minority. democracy works. see ancient greeks and romans who invented this game.
I consider people as a virus: The early ones were potent and spread slowly. The later generations have become impotent and reproduce very quickly. Humanity’s intelligence is decreasing every generation as our DNA mutates. Neither Biden nor Trump should have been nominated candidates. Monopolies are just as bad as open borders.
i do consider idiocracy the best documentary for our generations in amerika. there is a tiny minority that are thinkers. same as it ever was. we are primates. our social structures and leaders are the same as other primates.
This is primarily the pro-war Mockingbird media diverting attention away from the main reason the public repudiated Trump. The war he started in direct contradiction to his main campaign promise.
Trump is actually trying to keep the campaign promise about reversing the invasion of 30 million illegals under Biden. Having gotten elected on that promise to a large extent, it is unlikely to be anywhere close to the major factor motivating his richly deserved repudiation. Heck, it is one of the few campaign promises he has tried to keep, and it isn’t a co-incidence that crime is down with the deportation of the worst.
Crime statistics have been dropping for decades. Just a continuing trend. The most likely overall explanation is the banning of lead paint and leaded gasoline in the 1980s.
That there is any crime at all is due to enforced poverty, gutting of social safety nets and de-emphasis on education. Deporting 5% of the population won’t move that needle noticeably, especially when the vast majority of that 5% contribute positively to society and perform jobs that most Americans won’t do, as Mish has proved ad nauseum.
ROE V WADE was the reason crime came down. underclass and underage gals could abort a baby they did not want. didn’t happen much before. i know there were plenty of wire hanger abortions but not like post Roe. i think Roe was great freedom for females and their partners……..
Murders surged in 2021, 2022, & 2023. 22563 murders in 2021 versus 17413 murders in 2016. Murders and violent crime both went up with the invasion of 30 million illegals. The stats don’t lie.
People have probably stopped reporting property crime because the police don’t do anything about it. That may be the trend you are thinking about.
Electing the Orangutan was a big fat pedophile grifting middle finger that Usonians gave themselves.
Yup, the people deserve the politicians they elect.
that is correct. democracy works. always has.