Let the cheering begin. Regrets next year.
Over 700,000 Temporary Protected Status (TPS) Recipients Lose Legal Status
Penn Wharton reports 550,000 Who Are Legally Working Lose that Status by Year End
Key Points
- Scale & Geography: There were 1.3 million TPS holders living in the U.S. as of March 2025, with nearly half in Florida.
- Labor Market Concentration: TPS workers comprise 8 to 10% of hours worked in certain occupations in major metros. Compared to U.S.-born workers, TPS workers are 5.4 times more likely to work in building and grounds cleaning, 3.2 times more likely work in construction, and twice as likely to work in transportation, making them critical to these sectors.
- Economic Contribution: TPS workers generated $35.9 billion in GDP in 2023, with $10.7 billion from Florida alone, followed by Texas ($4.3B), California ($3.6B), and New York ($2.8B).
TPS Introduction and Review
Temporary Protected Status (TPS) is a humanitarian designation under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) that allows the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to provide protection to nationals of countries facing armed conflict, environmental disaster, or other extraordinary conditions. As of March 31, 2025, about 1.3 million foreign-born individuals hold TPS in the United States. TPS provides protection from deportation and authorization to work but does not lead to permanent immigration status. The Trump administration has moved to terminate TPS designations for several countries, citing that conditions in those countries no longer meet the criteria for protection. These terminations would affect the majority of TPS holders. In this brief, we draw on data obtained through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to USCIS and reports from the Congressional Research Service (CRS), combined with our own estimates, to provide a comprehensive picture of the evolution of the TPS population.
TPS holders are also heavily concentrated geographically within the United States, with the states of Florida, Texas, New York, California, and Georgia jointly accounting for about 60% of the total TPS population. Florida alone represents 31%, or roughly 400,000 individuals, far surpassing Texas, the state with the second-largest TPS population, at 11%. This concentration is a relatively recent development. Although the top four states (Florida, Texas, New York, and California) have long been the same, their shares were more evenly distributed in 2020, when each accounted for about 15% of all TPS holders. Since 2021, all four have seen growth in beneficiaries, but Florida’s increase has been especially sharp, rising from fewer than 60,000 to more than 400,000 by 2025, largely driven by the Venezuelan designations.
Pen Wharton charts show the number of TPS holders went from ~350,000 to ~1,500,000 between 2021 and 2025.
TPS Holders and the Labor Market
On average, we estimate that TPS beneficiaries have a labor force participation rate nearly 15 percentage points higher than U.S.-born individuals and 11.8 points higher than the non-TPS foreign-born population. Among men, TPS holders participate in the labor market at a rate almost 21 points above U.S.-born men (89.4% vs. 68.7%). For women, participation is 68.2% among TPS holders compared to 60.4% among U.S.-born women, a 7.8-point gap. This pattern contrasts with the non-TPS foreign-born population, where men’s participation also substantially exceeds that of U.S.-born men, but women’s participation falls below that of their U.S.-born counterparts.
Employment
Full-time employment is more common among TPS workers than among either U.S.-born individuals or other foreign-born, non-TPS workers. We estimate that 75.9% of TPS workers are employed full time, compared with 73.9% of other foreign-born workers and 69.7% of U.S.-born workers. In other words, TPS workers are about six percentage points more likely than U.S.-born workers and two points more likely than other foreign-born workers to hold full-time jobs.
Relative to both U.S.-born and other foreign-born workers, TPS holders are also heavily concentrated in construction, cleaning and maintenance, and transportation occupations. They are 5.4 times more likely than U.S.-born workers to work in building and grounds cleaning and maintenance (14.5% vs. 2.7%), 3.2 times more likely to be employed in construction (14.6% vs. 4.5%), and twice as likely to work in transportation and material moving (14.4% vs. 7.0%).
Contribution to GDP
In 2023, TPS workers added an estimated $35.9 billion to U.S. GDP, with a particularly strong contributions in labor-intensive industries.
In terms of industries, the largest individual contributions came from manufacturing ($5.5 billion), construction ($5.0 billion), retail trade ($3.9 billion), transportation and warehousing ($3.4 billion), and accommodation and food services ($3.2 billion). Significant contributions also emerged from administrative and waste management services ($2.4 billion), wholesale trade ($1.8 billion), and professional, scientific, and technical services ($1.8 billion). Smaller contributions were observed in finance and insurance, health care, other service sectors, and information services.
These findings show that TPS-authorized workers participate in and support economic activity across multiple sectors of the U.S. economy.
What’s the Impact?
It’s about $35.9 billion to U.S. GDP in 2023, undoubtedly higher now.
If these people are deported, good luck finding skilled replacements, especially in concentrated areas like Florida or concentrates skill sets like construction and meat packing.
There is no wisdom in deporting people who have been here legally but soon won’t be legal. And there will be a big negative benefit when it happens.
Republican Congresswoman Calls Trump’s Immigration Policies Un-American
On December 13, 2025, I noted Republican Congresswoman Calls Trump’s Immigration Policies Un-American
Miami Congresswoman María Elvira Salazar rips Trump.
Miami Congresswoman María Elvira Salazar on Sunday called the Trump administration’s latest immigration crackdown “un-American” in a biting statement to the Miami Herald.
Last week, the Department of Homeland Security issued one of its most sweeping restrictions on immigration to date, ordering a pause of all immigration applications from nationals of Cuba, Haiti, Venezuela and 16 other so-called “high risk” countries.
In the statement, Salazar — one of only a few Cuban Americans in Congress — said the new policy amounted to “collective punishment” of “the innocent for the sins of the guilty.” “Freezing asylum, green card, and citizenship processes is not the answer. It punishes hardworking, law-abiding immigrants who followed every step of the legal process,” said Salazar, who has advocated for compassionate immigration policies as Trump pursues his mass-deportation agenda. “That is unfair, un-American, and it goes against everything this country stands for. Background checks already exist to stop terrorists and they should.” Salazar’s strongly worded statement — which also mentioned how thousands of immigrants in South Florida who applied legally and “waited their turn” would be affected — was more critical of the Trump administration than a joint statement released Wednesday by Miami’s two other Republican members of congress, U.S. Reps. Mario Diaz-Balart and Carlos Gimenez.
I strongly agree with Salazar.
That does not mean I support Biden’s open door policy, because I didn’t and don’t.
But somewhere between open door and deport them all is a sensible immigration policy.
At least Mish gets big support from U.S. Representative Becca Balint (D-Vt.) who says, “we need them to wipe our asses.” I have many friends like Mish who totally agree using much less graphic language, but many of their children are spoiled unemployed who don’t want customer facing or starting at the bottom work. Just like the Somalians with 80% of their children on state support, the tax payers can’t take much more.
Take it easy now Don. You are only allowed to complain about the spoiled American kids. You are not allowed to complain about all the Somalians on state support AND getting state AND FEDERAL money to support their fake and illegal businesses.
Remember where you are at. A lot of liberal democratic virtue signalers out here.
And whatever you do don’t ask them to take in any of the illegals into their lilly white neighborhood.
Losing status has no meaning. they can continue doing whatever they were doing.
As a mfg supervisor, whites are a minority where I work. I’d say 40% mexican, 30% african,20% black, 10% white. It’s a moderately hard job but if you work 50 hours a week you will gross over 2k and we are swamped with work.
What state?
Kansas city
Most skilled trades are doing fairly good now as well. I stillhold a pipefitters card good for $50hr
God bless, good to hear
I guess its bad to hear to that downvoter. American kids of all races and nationalities working for a better America but that gets a downvote here.
My father in law is putting a new roof on his house here in Florida. The crew doing the work are all Honduran. I was watching them work and talking to a supervisor with the roofing company, and found out he has no idea if they are legal or not and doesn’t care. Per him, if you see a white guy working on a roof, he is almost certainly just out of prison and casing the house. He also mentioned that latinos have been doing essentially all the roofing work in Florida for decades, and are now the only guys who know how to do it quickly and effectively. He wouldn’t hire anyone else.
I had 3 overweight, alcoholic rednecks do mine in rural kansas. One of them weights over 300lbs. Had to tear off 4 layers of asphalt AND wood shake. Very old house, previous owner kept piling it on. Very strong rafters. They did an excellent job. Around 10 years later I seen the bigger one at the gym and had lost over 100llbs. Said he was tired of ending up in people’s living rooms lol! But, you’re right that if you wanted to do it on a mass scale I don’t see enough guys like these to do it.
As a young man (1966) in Tampa I worked at then Florida Downs, now Tampa Bay Downs replacing the metal roofs on the horse barns. All white crew would show up at 7 am, too damp to get on the roof, actually start about 9 but by 11 it was too hot to work on the roof. By 1 pm most of the crew had too many beers with lunch to safely get on the roof so spent the rest of the day drinking in the shade. This was summer before the opening months the slow pace didn’t bother the foremen who was selling the old tin off the roof till he ran out and starting stealing and selling the new tin. I used a new company pickup truck with unlimited free gas as my personal transportation. All in it was a great job….lol.
Years ago I spent the summer on a friend’s farm in Canada, since he needed some help. One project was replacing the roof shingles on the farmhouse. It took me about five minutes to learn how to do an adequate job on a simple roof; pulling off the old roofing and rolling out the substrate and nailing the asphalt layer on. Yes, it is true that it was a small dwelling but I am 5’2″ and female and not mechanically inclined and so I really think prospective employees can learn easily.
built a slate roof with my brother when we were about 19 years old. we had to cut each slate and drill 2 holes in each. took days with a huge pile of slate scrap. we had a master craftsman from the old country instruct us on the job. i think that roof is good for another 45 years since we put it up. looks great still.
Considering the US education system is graduating millions from high school that cannot read, write or do simple math, maybe we need to preserve the low/unskilled jobs for these folks the system has failed.
The “system” didn’t fail these kids. Their parents did. Blaming the system is just an excuse not to name the real culprits.
Yes. Admittedly I’m old, and can remember when parenting was not subcontracted out, especially to government entities.
I remember, too, but ‘school’ was not biased to DEI brainwashing.
the real old timers used to put their kids on trains and ships and send them off by themselves to fend for themselves. happened to my grandparents……..from the old country. i knew some old timers whose starving farmer parents sent them on trains heading west here in pax dumbfuckistan.
Actually, liberals failed these kids. It begins in the teachers’ colleges, 100% liberal for at least 30 years.
Teachers have your kids in a learning situation. The kids pay attention and learn what is rammed into their heads. That is, they are conditioned to think ‘liberal’. Their parents have them for a few hours at most to reverse that. Parents are tired after working/commuting, and many take work home. Weekends are sports for the kids.
I have no idea what liberal ideas are being rammed into their heads. My son is a high school science and sometimes foreign language teacher. And a pretty conservative guy. He says he never knows what the hell people are talking about. There is no DEI or any other nonsense taught in public school. Who has time?
Liberals. They can never look in the mirror and be honest at their failed policy and constant fuck ups
So weird, all those liberal blue states full of highly educated folks whose kids are doing way better on standardized tests than the kids in red states, where the grownups are generally less educated too… it’s almost like you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about
Oklahoma is like 51 out of 50 because even US territories have better schools… yet red state okies are worried about putting bibles in classrooms and shit, LOL
I have been surrounded by you so called educated elites for 60 years now Phil.
I’m not impressed.
Continue on with your feelings and virtue signalling.
From Jeffrey A Tucker:
The usually monolithic New York Times has decided, after so manyyears of incredible wreckage of basic freedoms, to permit a bit ofintrospective self-criticism. The author is David Brooks, who hastraditionally shown a bit more comprehension of big-picture themesthan the usual op-ed page propagandist. His column is “
What if We’re the Bad Guys Here?
To which every person in the know upon seeing that headlineimmediately shouted: YES!
After all, it was the NYT that consciously pursued the “Russiagate”investigation of the 2016 election long after it was obviously a deadend. And they did this because of all their predictions ahead of theelection that Hillary Clinton was a shoo-in. Their election modelsproved it. But then the models all turned out to be wrong. They couldnot admit it and so assigned dozens of reporters to vindicate thepaper. They failed.
Then they experimented for a few months with running somediversity on the opinion pages until they upset a tiny and insanecohort of their readership and staff. So then they fired their op-edpage editor. The woke revolution at this page was complete by 2017,after which the entire institution became a weapon for destroyingTrump and anyone who supported him, or, really, anyone whodoubted the wisdom of allowing liberal globalists total hegemonyover American public life.
It became pathological during these years.
It got so bad that in late February 2020, the paper threw out 100years of public-health wisdom and decided to whip up a wild diseasepanic, all with the hope of destroying the Trump presidency. The ideawas to create an association of Trump with a pathogen that wasdeeply dangerous to the body politic and therefore must besuppressed even at the cost of Constitutional rights and the lives andwell-being of children.
I don’t believe for an instant that they didn’t know what they weredoing. They did. They knew the astronomical costs of closing downthe economy, restricting travel, masking everyone, and unleashingthe shot-givers on the unwilling. They knew but they did it anyway,and why? Because their fevered imaginations believed that theTrump administration represented an existential threat to a centuryof liberal progress. Anything was justified toward the great goal ofpurging him from public office.
And by the way, I don’t like using the word liberal to describetotalitarians. Liberalism has a noble history dating back centuries. Itstood against every form of authoritarianism. But in every decade ofthe 20th century the “liberals” in the United States got worse,starting with their war-mongering in 1915 and following, continuingthrough the New Deal, and getting worse each decade. But the 21stcentury has been next-level rotten with the liberals now unable todefend even basic free speech rights or freedoms of association. Theyreally need to give up the name in the interest of preserving somemodicum of integrity in the English language.
The worst part of contemporary liberalism is its class-basedideological isolation and snobbery. It’s been all about preserving theprivileges of the few against the aspirations of the many. To achievethis, they have built huge empires of influence and control. Theyhave done this even though they constitute a tiny cult at this point,operating not off principles but symbols of association, with anunrelenting disregard of the working classes or anyone withoutinsider access to their kept university structures and media organs.
During the pandemic, they shamed anyone who wanted their kidseducated, desired to visit ailing family members, had doubts aboutmasking, and then resisted forced and untested medical technology.They completely threw out whatever affection they once had fornaturopathic healing and embraced the biomedical security state.They rallied around lockdowns that exploited the working classes inservice of the stay-at-home elites.
This is so obvious and so apparent that even they are starting toadmit it. Let’s consider a few lines from Brooks’ article.
“I ask you to try on a vantage point in which we anti-Trumpers are not the eternal good guys. In fact, we’re the bad guys. This story
begins in the 1960s, when high school grads had to go off to fight inVietnam but the children of the educated class got collegedeferments. It continues in the 1970s, when the authorities imposedbusing on working-class areas in Boston but not on the upscalecommunities like Wellesley where they themselves lived.”
“The ideal that we’re all in this together was replaced with thereality that the educated class lives in a world up here andeverybody else is forced into a world down there. Members of ourclass are always publicly speaking out for the marginalized, butsomehow we always end up building systems that serve ourselves.”
“The most important of those systems is the modern meritocracy. Webuilt an entire social order that sorts and excludes people on thebasis of the quality that we possess most: academic achievement.Highly educated parents go to elite schools, marry each other, workat high-paying professional jobs and pour enormous resources intoour children, who get into the same elite schools, marry each otherand pass their exclusive class privileges down from generation togeneration.”
“Over the last decades, we’ve taken over whole professions and locked everybody else out.”
“Members of our class also segregate ourselves into a few boomingmetro areas: San Francisco, D.C., Austin and so on. In 2020, Bidenwon only 500 or so counties, but together they are responsible for 71percent of the American economy. Trump won over 2,500 counties,responsible for only 29 percent. Once we find our cliques, we don’tget out much.”
“Armed with all kinds of economic, cultural and political power, we support policies that help ourselves.”
Like all elites, we use language and mores as tools to recognize one another and exclude others. Using words like ‘problematic,’‘cisgender,’ ‘Latinx’ and ‘intersectiona’ is a sure sign that you’ve got cultural capital coming out of your ears. Meanwhile, members of the less-educated classes have to walk on eggshells because they neverknow when we’ve changed the usage rules so that something that was say able five years ago now gets you fired.”
“We also change the moral norms in ways that suit ourselves, nevermind the cost to others.”
“We can condemn the Trumpian populists until the cows come home,but the real question is: When will we stop behaving in ways that make Trumpism inevitable?”
That’s some hard-core truth right there but it barely scratches the surface. Exclusion, snobbery, and disdain for the masses is so baked into liberal ideology at this point that the attitude is inseparable from the whole system of thought and sociology of the tribe. It is nota bad habit. It is a way of living.
You can see it all around you in every urban center. Go to any art museum and you will find yourself forced to walk through room after room of utterly insane trash to get to the paintings and sculptures that you actually want to see.
The absurdity has gotten worse with each passing decade. The other day I was at the woke section of the local museum staring at a 10x10canvas painted solid black. We are invited to look at that and pretendthat it is art. If it means anything, I don’t want to know what it is.
It’s true in every arts institution but also in academia, media,government, and most every profession. They are structured toexclude normal people with regular-person aspirations. They have set up a caste system for themselves, exactly as Brooks says, and then they dare decry anyone with doubts a fascist or deplorable orrube or Bible thumper or whatever.
I doubt that the court of Louis XIV was so uncomprehending of reallife.
The pandemic response really pushed this all over the top, as all theliberal elites were happy to crush human rights and public health in the name of creating an environment of chaos and voter fraud all inthe interest of driving the orange man from office. This is a very dangerous fanaticism that did appalling levels of damage not just tothe county but to the entire planet. And they dared celebrate throughout.
Even now, they are redefining democracy as one-party rule.
From which I conclude that liberalism is not just anti-liberal, not just habitually mistaken, not just isolated and uncaring, as Brooks says,but fundamentally pathological. It desperately needs to be fixed lest their power and privilege drive us further and deeper into amedieval morass of lords and peasants with a digital veneer.
What will end their reign of terror? Economics is helping. Woke isgoing broke and colleges are not filling up as they once did. The management ranks specializing in ESG, CRT, and DEI are being purged of accounting necessity. Masses of people are now alert to theracket and are determined to stop it. Perhaps that was the purpose of Brooks’ article, simply to tell his own tribe of what is developing out there in the real world before it is too late and their entire empire crumbles to the ground.
Jeffrey A. Tucker
well stated
Those are the words of the brilliant Jeffrey A Tucker from the article How the Liberal Elites Destroyed Liberalism.
You can find it over at Brownstone Institute, The Epoch Times and The NY Times
2 delusional liberals that cant stand the truth
if everyone works who is gonna buy all the fentanyl and meth etc……….please think about the dealers and the smugglers and the producers of these drugs. all jobs are precious.
Correct, people stop using drugs, drug dealers are out of business. Funny how that actually would work, too bad the government can’t grasp the idea.
While related peripherally, I haven’t seen mention of Somali Enterprise on Mish Talk. I may have missed, what with the Great Silver Panic of 2025. It has been mentioned twice in comments, but featured? I can’t imagine why not; however, there is still time. The real JOKE has yet to be told.
The #1 den of fraud is Minneapolis, followed by Columbus, Ohio. What is Den #3 ? My bet is….. Washington DC, which has 14,202 Somalis (3rd largest in the USA)
Yes, right under our politicians noses, not to mention the FBI, DOJ etc.
not under their noses
with their support
I have no idea, so I do NOT make empty claims. I distinctly said “MY BET is” That is not an allegation, btw. It is a qualified opinion with some likelihood of being correct.
it is not a qualified opinion, it is an assumption, regarding its correctness or otherwise I can’t comment.
My guess is Mish is waiting for the merits of the case to outweigh the need to make the Somalis into the next big bad enemy.
Yes, every single Somali, and people who might resemble them (wink, wink) are fundamentally evil, un-American and need to be deported to El Salvador right away!
The problem with stereotypes is when they have a foundation/track record. To quote Ian Fleming: “Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. The third time it’s enemy action’”
They’re absolutely fantastic. Just the kind of immigrants we want. Look what a paradise they made of Somalia.
LMAO!!!!!!!
Sure and of course they can’t change like Amerikans. Also I guess only the “bad” ones leave their native country, the “good” ones never try to improve their lot in life. By that logic Rubio’s parents should never have been allowed into the US to have their anchor baby. Maybe we should deport SOS Rubio?
typical left wing response. Exaggerate someones response. Deflect from what is going on.
Let me guess Jon, you don’t live near where any of this is happening.
This from the party that was going to give us a Vice President whose watch this is happening under.
Then Waltz blames Trump today and says it his long game.
Well Waltz, your short game aint cutting it.
And California has their own separate fraud coming out. Not Somali
we down vote finding out about fraud. Oh I forgot its a blue state, we cant talk about that
Last time I was in MSP (always on business) was about 10 years ago. I figured the native Nordic types must be too “nice” to drive cabs.
FYI. The fundamental law of economic migration. If it goes unchecked, it continues until the quality of life is the same in both original and host countries.
Of course, liberal ‘thinking’ denies this, so it goes unchecked.
BTW, this proves, again, the inherent racist bias of liberals. WHY?
Even AI knows:
As of late 2025, the unemployment rate for Black Americans is approximately 7.5%, which is more than twice the rate for white Americans, currently at about 3.7%.
But I thought Trump was deporting millions so why is the black unemployment up?
Because evil leftists hate a Trump paradise? /s
If someone said it here……well…..in my Jack Nicholson voice
You want the truth? You can’t handle the truth!
The ‘bassetball’ tournaments are too good to pass up. Ask Father Faker.
Cops seek 2 men, vehicle in connection with triple shooting outside St. Sabina Catholic Church – CWB Chicago
Did I mention Trump? But, yes, I deliberately insulted liberals–they deserve it after putting up with Biden’s border policies.
Now, be honest, who does open immigration most hurt?
Because their welfare hasn’t been cut off yet?
“The fundamental law of economic migration.”??? Nah, the fundamental law of economic migration is that potential migrants who want to work hard and create a better life for their children, migrate from countries with systems that punish work and prosperity to countries that reward it. Once there, they contribute massively to the productive capacity of their new countries.
Then, come legally. Apply at the nearest US consulate. When their first act is to break a US law, why would you want them?.
But democraps do. Why? VOTES!
Watch the downvotes on this Flingel.
The elephant in the room is democrats do not reproduce. I do not understand,well i do , but how do they keep winning so many elections when outside of illegal immigration there are fewer and fewer of them???
Self-inflicted negative supply shocks are the ultimate measure of political stupidity. The MAGA base obviously doesn’t care because it thinks these negative supply shocks don’t affect them. But then the same people complain that they can’t afford replacing their roofs anymore.
I’d rather pay a competent American roofer to do my roof. If it costs more, so be it.
If you can find one.
I’d rather have a robot do the job properly, reliably and correctly. Phew to humans!
That will someday be the norm. At 75 years old I guess I’ll miss it, damn.
Similarly, there is also the old H1-B worker issue. The comic in this blog post nicely summarizes the situation:
Off they go, along with their skills, relationships and earning power. Benefitting nations that have favorable relationships with global consumers. Trumps isolationist policies and return to the 50’s economy ensures the growth of other nations tax base ~ as our shrinks.
Who will pay those silver hairs in Floridas if the productive workers are driven out?
Grandma better get out there and mow her own lawn instead of sitting on her fat diabetic ass!
“Grandma better get out there and mow her own lawn instead of sitting on her fat diabetic ass!”
A little harsh don’t you think?
Well, at least go back to the middle-age guy wearing Bermuda shorts with black knee socks in wing top shoes pushing a reel mower. Low BMIs in those days and environmentally friendly!
Maybe you’ll mow her lawn if she does child care for your kids?
she likes that broomstick you’re carryin’
If I still lived there I’d see her at the poker table, probably taking my chips.
Given the choice of a harder-working Indian with a strong background in math and science, and a current-generation entry-level US citizen with a similar, but DEI-enriched degree demanding a higher salary and more benefits, who would you hire?
How are the degrees “DEI enriched” do the professors give them a pass like elite athletes? I understand that some who were qualified may have been admitted to universities that otherwise would have fallen through the cracks of segregation and bigotry but I thought that once admitted they would have to successfully complete the work to receive a degree.
Those conditions are all created inside their own countries. Why should we care? Why should we feel it necessary to do anything about conditions that they or their leaders create in their own countries?
Life’s a beech and then you die.
Like when we bomb them into the Stone Age and they have to migrate?
The Department of WAR is just that… Funding war, mass murder, and the displacement of millions.
I’m glad you appreciate that the problem began long before Trump.
Migrate somewhere else. Russia will take them. They always need more bodies for their war with Ukraine.
Are you saying that garbage countries are created by garbage people? Imagine that.
Tell me you know nothing about the history of US destabilization of central and south American governments without telling me!
These economic and political refugees are our proverbial chickens coming home to roost. The fact that they’re young and want to work hard in our (graying) economy is lost on economic illiterates.
We break it but we don’t have to own it!
I feel like I’m being forced to watch a woke Hollywood box office flop. Keep the comments coming. If they can kill Hollywood with this kind of stuff, maybe you can kill (fake) liberalism.
Your last sentence nailed it.
Todays left wing morons think they are liberals in the true sense but they are not . They have ruined true liberalism
Jeffrey Tucker over at the Brownstone Institute has a perfect article on this topic.
“How Liberal Elites destroyed Liberalism”
So then why are we letting them in Phil? If they hate us so much, why do you want to let them in?
You really do not like America do you? Oh, only your blue states? Your cities are all shit holes thanks to people that think and vote like you.
Typical American attitude. Basically you are saying, I’m okay so piss on everyone else. Then you’ll be in church this Sunday.
Power outage in Moscow the day after the US issues a travel warning to Russia and telling all US citizens to leave Russia.
Here is the actual travel warning:
Travel AdvisoryDecember 29, 2025Russia – Level 4: Do Not TravelO D U T
There were no changes to the advisory level or risk indicators. Advisory summary was updated. (NOTE THIS)
Advisory summary
Do not travel to Russia due to:
U.S. citizens in Russia should leave immediately
The U.S. government has limited ability to help U.S. citizens in Russia, especially outside of Moscow. The U.S. Embassy in Moscow has reduced its staff. The Russian government has also restricted travel for embassy personnel. All U.S. consulates in Russia have suspended operations, including consular services.
Do not travel to Russia for any reason
The U.S. Embassy in Moscow has limited ability to assist in the case of a detention of a U.S. citizen. There is no guarantee that the Russian government will grant the U.S. Embassy consular access to detained U.S. citizens. U.S. citizens may serve their entire prison sentence without release. The risk of wrongful detention of U.S. citizens remains high. Even if a case is determined wrongful, there is no guarantee of release.
Russian officials often question and threaten U.S. citizens without reason. Russian security services have arrested U.S. citizens on false charges. They have denied them fair treatment and convicted them without credible evidence. Russian authorities have opened questionable investigations against U.S. citizens for their religious activities.
There have been drone attacks and explosions near the border with Ukraine, and in Moscow, Kazan, St. Petersburg, and other large cities. In 2024, ISIS Khorasan claimed responsibility for the attack at Crocus Music Hall in Moscow. This attack killed 130 people. They also targeted places of worship in Dagestan. In an emergency, you should follow instructions from local authorities and seek shelter.
More follows but this is the important stuff.
BTW, Putin wishes all MIsh readers a Happy New Year
“The risk of harassment or wrongful detention by American security officials.
The arbitrary enforcement of local laws.”
Currently prevalent in the US.
Sorry Mish. I think we need to undo years of bad immigration policy going back to 1990. This includes all legal immigration. The citizenry just hasnt done well enough. We need better regulation on derivatives and housing. Eventually asset prices will come back into line with incomes and not speculative and black money from overseas. The money system itself is so dirty that jt is driving up precious metal prices way too quickly. It will be ugly but there is mo magic bullet. Time to take the medicine.
Why stop at the 1990? Maybe go all the way back to the 1490s and start there.
“Start there”
Why overlook the Cahokia Mounds people?
i think the first human primates to move into the amerikas some 10 to 20 thousand years ago should have stopped any more immigrants. perhaps the first 1000 from asia……….
Natives of the land now called America would argue the immigration policies have been “bad” since 1492. Actually that was real invasion not the so called invasion sited by trump and the MAGA cult today.
It’s insane that the US doesn’t have temporary visas or work permits for unskilled labor – most of these issues could be resolved if we offered a legal way for people to come here and earn money doing jobs Americans don’t want to do.
There arent enough jobs to go around for everyone. The truth is all the rampant immigration since 2010 has caused rampant inflation along with easy money policies. The next few years will be painful but necessary. The only way to slow down inflation is to slow down everything including the rapid movement of capital. Deflation is upon us for the first time since 2009.
Driving away immigrant workers who work for cheap will not help bring down prices.
Bring back slavery then. That’ll really bring down prices.
I once told a lecture room of 100+ college students that most US workers are 20% slaves–to pay taxes to a wasteful government/slave owner
If you don’t pay your taxes, what happens. It is not voluntary, ergo slavery.
The smart students understood. The dumb ones complained.
It always goes back to who is gonna pick the cotton.
the ancient greeks and romans asked that question,too. as did the pharoahs of egypt.
Work for cheap. Ok, lets play that. If they are working for cheap, then how the hell are they paying their rent? Their food? Their utilities? Their not so important cell phone? Their kids daycare? Their public transportation
Hint, You me and everyone else here is paying for it
You see its people that make statements like that and believe that illegal immigrantsor even legal ones all these new fancy visa’s are actually doing us a net benefit are fucking clueless ok.
How about we teach our kids to do those jobs?
Back to day 1 through the mids 1980s we poor and lower class blacks and whites did that work.
From age 16 I cleaned toilets mopped floors washed dishes cut grass and all the kind of low level stuff kids entering the work force did and it creates a solid work ethnic
Now you liberal elites are up in arms because you can’t find a latino to cut your grass and tend to your garden for cash. Spare me.
So all the fancy labeled visa’s to get people here to work and you think that is a net benefit really are clueless and part of the problem in this country.
Anyone older than 50 knows Americans did those jobs. Then the high school guidance counselors started to do the biding of Higher $$$.$$$ Ed brainwashing. Are Chicago Alderman the only people getting kickbacks?
LOL. Good points
FYI:
A U.S. temporary work permit, also known as an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), allows nonimmigrant visa holders to work in the United States for a specific period. To obtain one, you typically need to apply using Form I-765 after your employer has filed a petition with USCIS on your behalf.
Ok, assuming a minimum of 20 million illegals in the country, all that’s going to happen is undocumented illegals (or the same illegals under the table) will take those jobs. Unless they are too busy doing Somalian daycare/medtaxi scams.
Net impact on labour market: negligible.
Better method: since you have these 700k by the scrotum, kick out the freeloaders, put the criminal ones in CECOT, and extend the program for the good ones, renewable on proof of good behaviour annually. One strike and your next roommates will have face tattoos, have not seen a woman in 12 years, and be dressed only in disturbingly thin cotton undies. Ten cuidado mis amigos!
Looks like they are opening up the labor market for the big kick down. Ai is take good jobs away. Those people will take the next lower job on the ladder. Etc. As every job gets replaced by someone a bit more qualified than the person they replaced.
Don’t go to far out on a limb there mish. Surely there is an answer somewhere but it will not be favorable to everyone. Skills can be learned and maybe employers have to pay more stupid Americans to do the jobs.
Trump is rumored to be looking for ways to send the Statue of Liberty to be recycled, and charging France for its removal from Ellis Island. This, so he can install a gold spray painted statue of himself in its place.
Message to world?
None are welcome here, under the Trump dictatorship, the United States is no longer a decent nation.
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At the new Trump island (formerly Ellis) they will be selling gold spray painted Trump bibles and tennis shoes.
Ask yourself how many years ago Trumps family immigrated to our fair land… His ancestors worked hard and prospered. Donald inherited their wealth, and used it to gain the influence to rape young girls with impunity and now conspires with the FBI and Congress to protect him from the laws that the rest of us are required to abide by.
Didn’t the big cities stop selling spray paint to just anyone? So long ago I forgot the reason.
When exactly has the US been a decent nation? Ask a Mohawk or Iroquois native, from the beginning the US has been heartless and greedy.
Starved Rock in Illinois. Palefaces had nothing to do with why it has that name.
a group of Native Americans of the Illinois Confederation (also called Illiniwek or Illini) pursued by the Ottawa and Potawatami fled to the butte in the late 18th century. In the legend, around 1769 the Ottawa and Potawatomi besieged the butte until all of the Illiniwek had starved, and the butte became known as “Starved Rock”.
Do you choose to live here? If so feel free to leave
LMFAO, ok that first paragrah got to me Frosty. That is LOL funny
But then your Trump Tourettes syndrome kicked in, again, and you lost me
If you think America in 2025 was a dictatorship, thank god you never lived in a real dictatorship.
Lord almighty
These folks were admitted solely on the basis they would be reliable Democratic voters. How many of them are collecting welfare? The question no one wants to answer. Those folks need to go now.
Holders of protected status visa can’t vote.
According to the article posted by Mish they work more and harder on average than Americans.
Try again
That doesn’t stop them from voting in California, where you aren’t allowed to show your ID at the polling place. I pulled my ID out, and they literally looked the other way, as though the poll workers had been instructed not to look.
Not sure why this was down voted. It’s a fact.
It’s downvoted because it’s bullshit dummy
Is there not 1 leftist liberal talking point you dont go for Phil?
How about we dump all the somalis and illegals committing crimes in your neighborhood and you fucking pay for it.
You are truly a liberal moron.
Go ahead, virtual signal away and call me a racist.
Meanwhile you probably live in an all white neighborhood and I have bi racial kids and Daca kids in my family
Its people like you, that have ruined it for the true liberal in America
You hold know one accountable for their actions and blame the boogie man Trump. Who was it before Trump? Same ole shit with people like you
Virtual signal away Phil.
I don’t care where your neighborhood is David, it could never be big enough to hold all the white MAGA criminals.
White MAGA Criminals. Lets think this through. When did “MAGA” start? 2008,2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016,???
When?
We have a couple hundred years of democrats and republicans politcians and citizens committing all kinds of crimes but in what 17 years now there is more MAGA crime?
Your TDS is effecting your math skills
You don’t live in California, Phil. I do. Next election, why don’t you fly out to California, chat someone here up for their name and address (and *maybe* their birthday), and vote for them. You’ll quickly realize which one of us is full of shit. Hopefully someone else who lives in California and votes at polling places (vs mail-in) will chime in on this topic.
JeffD, they virtue signal from their lilly white neighborhood, don’t you see it now?
I didn’t downvote, but I wouldn’t be caught dead in California, either. Although “voting” and “death” are not mutually exclusive. Camilla can draw a Venn Diagram on that.
Does Mish have a plantation somewhere?
Idiot you have to be a citizen to vote.
and the C-Suiters who hired them need to do hard time in prison.
and it gets 11 downvotes.
Mostly illegal aliens steal from the truly poor Americans and that ok with 11 leftist liberal clowns here.
Can we send them the bill for this ? And Ohio too?
pro tip. southern and northern border has been wide open for most of past 400 years. like most borders on planet earth.
Not so here in Portugal or Spain. We are restricted as non-Schengen people and must leave here after 90 days unless we extend our Tourist Visa’s.
i’m eu citizen too. you do realize you can walk across the border from portugal to spain with ease. borders are wide open. i am not discussing paperwork.
Even Lake Erie has frozen over a few times, walking it easier than swimming it.
Legal, vetted immigration is not a bad thing. For temporary workers, the USA can charge a one-time fee for the vetting, and an ongoing garnished percentage of wages for the privelege of working here until/unless citizenship is gained. Back at the founding of the USA, this was a common arrangement called indentured servitude.
This sounds like a joke, but it isn’t. This sort of hard working grit is what we should require of immigrants. The “automatic handouts” the USA gives, with an inability to deport once the border is breached, is absolutely the wrong (current!) model for immigration.
Please list those “automatic handouts”, I may want some.
It’s been widely documented on mainstream media that “asylum seekers”, aka illegal immigrants, were getting prepaid cash cards at the border, and at some point, SNAP benefits. Every illegal immigrant can show up at an emergency room and can’t be turned away. The list goes on and on, down to minutiae items like 520 free phone plan minutes/month.
https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/statement-free-cell-phone-minutes-provided-during-covid-19-public-health-emergency
They also get SSI, supplemental Security income. Its NOT Social Security it is the equivalent of federal welfare
Then add on Sect 8, SNAP, Prepaid cell phone, prepaid MTA cards and I might have left a thing or 2 but but you get the drift
But oh yeah, we need them to come here and make $12 an hour doing the jobs our lazy ass American kids wont do. Jobs that many of us did growing up
And its a net benefit according to some here. In what world?
Now lets hear Phil from CT point of view…………………………
Google disagrees:
Undocumented immigrants are generally ineligible for federal programs like SNAP (food stamps) and SSI (Supplemental Security Income), though they can receive benefits for their U.S.-citizen children who qualify; prepaid cell phones (Lifeline/ACP) have different rules but often require legal status or specific programs, while some state-funded benefits or specific legal statuses (like refugees/asylees) provide access, but core federal aid generally excludes undocumented individuals.
It’s too hard to get very limited help from the govt, guess I’ll keep working just like most illegal immigrants.
Its in my RSSA and NSSA manuals. They get Supplemental Security Income.(SSI) It is NOT social security income
SSI. Supplemental Security Income is paid to migrants and illegal aliens. It is our Federal welfare system.
Then you have state welfare benefits. Section 8, SNAP, free cell phone and free subways and bus passes.
Did I miss the sarcasm or are you another liberal living in your fantasy land world?
“Indentured servitude was a labor system, especially in colonial America, where individuals signed contracts (indentures) to work for a set period (e.g., 4-7 years) in exchange for passage to the New World”
Psychologically, people integrate into a position they earn, and abuse handouts they don’t earn. The founding fathers “got it”, unlike the morons and crooks that run the government now.
And the demographics death spiral shall continue. 11,000 boomers retire each day, 5,000 boomers expire each day. Young people having 1 or zero kids for the past decade will ensure a crisis around 2035 when the labor simply doesn’t exist.
Better hope and pray Elon’s robots are changing the soiled sheets in your nursing home boomers or you’re be rotting in your own filth.
Boomers will be gone by then. It’ll be the first of GenX… there will be shock and horror stories on the news at first, but after while it’ll die down. Most people don’t think they’ll end up like that, so it’ll be one of those “not me” problems.
By 2035 the last of the Boomers born in 1964 will only be 71 years old. There will be lots of them still around. At 75 today I may not be one of them…lol.
My mom is in a rehab facility at the moment and rather than diapers for urine they use a little external vacuum machine (don’t worry, I won’t give details); it works brilliantly. It would be very possible to devise something like that for poop.
So let me see if I understand this correctly… “TPS” Stands for “Temporary” protected services. The “Key” word being “Temporary”
Why does Pen Wharton have charts showing an “Increase” In “Temporary” Holders From ~350,000 to ~1,500,000 Between 2021 & 2025?
– Over 700,000 Temporary Protected Status (TPS) Recipients Lose Legal Status. > Why is this number Not 1,500,000?
– Penn Wharton reports 550,000 Who Are Legally Working Lose that Status by Year End > Why is this number Not 1,500,000?
– Economic Contribution: TPS workers generated $35.9 billion in GDP in 2023. > This could be American Jobs then? That’s a lot of Tax Revenue on top of Good Wages for People who need work right now in America.
– with $10.7 billion from Florida alone, followed by Texas ($4.3B), California ($3.6B), and New York ($2.8B). > Sounds like “Wages” Could / should be a bit higher then?
– (TPS) is a humanitarian designation under “INA” that allows DHS to provide protection to nationals of countries facing armed conflict, environmental disaster, or other extraordinary conditions. > What if Cities, Towns, States In America, are experiencing “Environmental disasters” & “Armed Conflicts” or Any Other “Extraordinary Conditions” which several Places In America are experiencing right now.
>> Can Americans Jobless, Homeless, Destitute Etc. Apply for these Jobs too? Are they not “Equally Eligible” and if so, why not assign to “Current Unemployed American People” First? They can lose benefits if they refuse perhaps? This Only Seems Fair IF “As of March 31, 2025, about 1.3 million foreign-born individuals hold TPS in the United States”.
– The Trump administration has moved to terminate TPS designations for several countries, citing that conditions in those countries no longer meet the criteria for protection. > Hell, The Conditions In America certainly qualify some Americans, that’s for sure. On Unemployment Today, You got yourself a Job Tomorrow!
– These terminations would affect the majority of TPS holders. > AND American Jobless too perhaps?
“collective punishment” of “the innocent (TPS – Temporary?) for the sins of the guilty (Law Abiders?).”
The free market will adjust to the loss of temporary/illegal workers to the benefit of Americans.
We just need to ignore the businesses’ gloom and doom who took advantage, who won’t in the future.
Start with the Somalis.
Lots of white business owners who were born in the United States will be hurt. Can’t say they didn’t ask to get kicked in the nuts by their own country because they asked exactly for that.
Exactly, cry me a river for these business owners
Corporate offices in Springdale, Arkansas and Greeley, Colorado would be nice oasis for them on their way out.
Key Word: “TEMPORARY”
Exactly
Yes, but how long is “temporary” between here and there? Most of the time, “temporary” turns into 10, 15, 20 or lifetime years because of course, business will scream that they can’t find anyone to replace the lost labor.
So how the scheme works?
Let’s see. Temporary protection status – focus on TEMPORARY. If the situation in their home country has changed then TPS should change as well. Trouble comes when we change meaning or ignore words. Just like ACA tax credits that legally had an expiration date
Haven’t you heard? There is nothing more permanent than a temporary government program.
If “TPS workers generated $35.9 billion in GDP in 2023″, how much stayed in the US economy and how much was sent to the workers’ home countries. I do not agree with “deporting them all”, nor do I agree with changing the rules with no rational or means to remedy the situation, but that said, we need to hear the rest of the story for full understanding.
Agree. I think whatever the solution is between open door and deport them all, it needs to entail no access to social services. And to your point, we are not looking at a static picture here – if these workers are removed from the picture, it won’t result in a $35.9B hole in GDP- some economic activity will occur that fills that gap. The trick is visualizing the non-obvious (i.e., hidden, or unseen) effects of these workers losing their status and leaving.
No *free* access to social services. Immigrants shouldn’t be frozen out, but they *should* have to pay for services received. Using tax dollars to support any aspect of non-citizen lifestyle needs makes zero sense.
In my book social services are purely government funded. So if someone is paying for something, that something is de facto NOT a social service.
For example your new roof will go from $8000 to $16,000, not a bad trade off?
1. There you go thinking static.i stead of dynamic.
2. Not going to respond to a complete hypothetical that you pulled out of your ass. Show us some data that the price of a roof doubles. How much if the roof is materials, and how much is labor?
3. I have seen how illegal immigrants do new roofs. Saw it in a small town in Missouri. The quality of the roof may have been OK, or not. It was what they did with the old roof shingles. Piled them up in open flatbed trailers. The roofing nails were falling out onto the road all over town causing flat tires.
All in all, so tired of these dumb arguments that American middle class life will be worse if we don’t let illegals and other foreigners in to do the work that “we don’t want to do”. Buzz the f*ck off. And get them all the F outta here.
First hand real life experience dealing with 2 new roofs and 2 different counties with 2 building inspectors in Oct & Nov
There words. They cut corners on the ice shield, cheap shingles and other code violations that if we do not get an inspector out there or request photos of the roof as its done, 8 out of 10 have a problem in 2 years or less time
Thank you David. People get what they pay for. There is no free lunch.
Those were the quotes I got last year when I chose the Spanish speaking crew to do our roof. Quality job completed on-time with good site cleanup afterwards. They did my next door neighbors house a few weeks before mine. There was an error on his garage roof (actually supporting structure issue) they came right back and redid it without complaint or stalling as is so prevalent with “American” companies.
Of course there are honest Spanish owned businesses
Now you said Spanish speaking crew, just curious who owns the business? Again maybe it is Mexican or latino owned, God bless them.
But I’m telling you what I told you is first hand experience and in talking to other contractors, at least in NY they always say that as well.
I guess some of you people not in the Northeast do not realize.
I would say in the last 25 years in NYS , anyone on your roof was a latino. Most were paid in cash, some of the good and honest companies paid them on the books if they had a social security card.
At one point in the 1990s, the NYS Workers Comp Insurance rate for a roofer was 50 cents on every 1 dollar of wages.
So every went off the books or became a sub contractor or they hired illegal mexican and hondoran workers.
If you find a white guy on a roof in NYS(other than a homeowner) it was a Mexican Albino
Paul Krugman can solve the GDP issue by throwing bricks through everyone’s windows. He won a Nobel Prize for that theory.
He won a Nobel prize to provide him with “legitimacy” as the court economist for the future when he writes supportive articles for whatever new harebrained economic scheme the government comes up with.
There must be more to this, I agree. It’s been going on for too long, so it’s not surprising to anyone, to ask for a reason I suspect?
The surprise you are observing is potentially just manufactured drama/outrage, aka cosplay, aka crocodile tears, from (a) the industry titans who benefit from the effects these extra people have on wages and (b) the social services grifters who start businesses that make money providing goods and services to these foreigners using government services funding.
Including legal and illegal immigrant workers.
Remittances are a vital economic lifeline for Latin American countries, accounting for a regional average of 2.3% to 2.5% of the total GDP and reaching a total value of approximately $161 billion in 2024. This contribution is even more significant in specific Central American nations, where it can make up over a fifth of the national economy.
Examples are:
Nicaragua 27% of GDP
Honduras 25% of GDP
El Salvador 23% of GDP
I read yesterday that almost 25% of the GDP in Somalia comes from remittances from America
Let that sink in.
And a lot of that apparently is money received from illegal means
I see no reason college grads who are defaulting on loans that are backed by taxpayers should remain underemployed or jobless because of some moral situation outside of the country.
I agree, and it’s also why we should get those on unemployment to take these jobs, who can. Match up careers from their paperwork to open positions and offer / accept or say No and lose benefits, if not a satisfactory answer. I know…
Those grads should also be able to discharge student loan debt in a bankruptcy.
🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕 the banks.
Not that type of loan, and the Grandparent’s, Parents & Students, Knew This going into it! Some may lose their homes, others will have liens placed on anything owned or in ownership. Credit scores for many Students has been absolutely trashed (self induced mostly), and this will follow them around for Years!!
Hey, those Teachers Unions play hardball. They want their money, benefits, bonuses, Etc. And will literally Stop At Nothing, to get them!!! You will pay to be indoctrinated, and you will like it!!
I’m sure those collage grads would be able to carry stacks of 2x4s around the job site, pound nails on the roof at 90 degrees in the shade and do it all for $10 an hour.
Dream on.
That’s the wild lawless US, where one day something is legal and illegal on another, be it lobbying, immigration and, a warning to foreign investors in stateside businesses and US bonds, deposits. All is subject to political expediency, as has ever been.
They are Temporary – ie, not to stay permanently
Not hard to understand
Get rid of them. Get rid of immigrants and let’s get America back to being American again. Once we get rid of them and stop funneling all the money money that they have taken from us it will be a huge benefit to our financial bottom line. I am so proud of Trump. I just hope that people stop trying to stop him from doing the right thing which is getting rid of the immigrants!
Are you Comanche? If so, I agree with you. Your lot is a cancerous pest.
Then you should support e-verify. Very simple – match SS # to real numbers. Trump could do all this very quickly but a small problem. The business community and even a few governors do not want this process used because they would lose too many workers. Much more fun to use masked officers. PS who qualifies as an immigrant?
Agree – Congress needs to pass E-Veriy. The fine to the company for each illegal hired starts at $100,000 and increases with each violation.
This would hurt the TRump businesses significantly. So nothing will be done.
1) i don’t think Sunny voiced opposition to e-verify as it wasn’t mentioned.; 2) “Trump could do this very quickly”…then you go on to say he’d face a (not so) small problem. Easily and quickly is true only if you don’t face that not so small problem you introduced in the same sentence! 3) The officers may mask because folks doxx/harass/threaten agents, putting them in danger for doing their job, their legally authorized and supreme-court-legitimized (under Obama) executive-branch task; 3) In the case of the post the immigrants imtended are clear.
In the eys of liberals the word illegal in front of immigrant hasn’t meant much anyway so you know what was meant when the word immigrant was used alone.
Mish’s post covers those under TEMPORARY protected status which is being cancelled.
The confrontational nature of fighting the desire remove folks allowed to pour in under the unenforced, wide-open Biden border–while liberals said it was closed–and you might have also defended(?)–is amazing. Do you recall what the Supereme Court said to Governor Jan Brewer who simply wanted to enforce federal law exactly as written? The President via his Executive Powers has that authority.
Trump was elected to do things like this. Mish is arguing it will be damaging. Others argue it’s all been damaging. He argued it before the election, of the cost, as if we haven’t seen our elections, census-impacted apportionment and representation negatively impacted, regardless of economics. Once one wrong policy was allowed to run amok there is/was never going to be a painless solution. In 3 years you can choose to go a different direction if you want–I doubt a loose/nonexistent policy will be the course chosen regardless of who wins.
To Laura’s point–just like long-distance slamming was stopped when the fine was 10,000 per-customer slammed, no limit, the practice stopped in short order! When government chooses to actually enforce the law in the same way they do DWI’s or shortchanging the IRS, you get a whole lot less of it. Not zero but, at 100,000 per violation as stated, it would stop fast so long as the violations were rapid and well publicized.
– When government chooses to actually enforce the law in the same way they do DWI’s. > People drive drunk all the time. There is not nearly enough incentive of law enforcement anywhere. The restaurants and Bars over serve all the time. Again not nearly enough penalties to dampen it from occurring.
Some Family Members were Bartenders for over a decade. Even one of them got dwi coming home from the bar, after having there freebies before leaving.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM! Has been for a long, long time. We have went as far as no bail, and promise you will show up 9 months from now. C’mon, The Way the Government does it SUCKS in many cases.
Whoever is reading this, ask quietly if you have every been deterred from drunk driving after a few, and drove home… Be honest. People generally don’t get caught. They risk it because of the small deterrent.
The DWI game was up when we started selling beer and wine at GAS STATIONS!
They aren’t so much concerned with losing workers. The issue is losing potential VOTERS!
You’ve hit upon the root of the problem. We owe them nothing, and yet the government gives/gave them everything, often prioritized ahead of US citizens.
Could the homeless veterans stay at “The Row”, the four star hotel in midtown Manhattan, where immigrants were housed, fed, and given additional cash benefits for free? No! They could not! Biden/Harris sent FEMA funds to NY to help pay for those handouts.
Some employees were fired for making lavish payments to luxury hotels for migrant housing, indicating decisions were sometimes made outside normal procedures.
But then where would trump get a new wife? Have a heart….lol
Uh sunny, we are the land of immigrants……………………LEGAL immigrants.
Put the cool aid down for a minute
Trump and team are as economically illiterate as your typical socialist. The lump of labor fallacy lives on.
But the typical economic illiterate isn’t the f–ing POTUS! Think will ya?
I am surprised that the estimate isn’t higher?