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How to Tell if You Have Trump Cult Syndrome

Simple TCS Test

  1. Stand in front of a mirror, in good light, and open your eyes. If you are legally blind skip to step 2.
  2. Ask the person you see (yourself, if legally blind) two questions: Do you believe Trump won the Election? Do you believe Trump should have won the Texas Supreme Court case?
  3. If you answered yes to either of the above questions, you are indeed afflicted.

How Bad is Your Case?

Notice the operative word “should“.

If you thought Trump lost the election but could realistically win the Supreme Court case, that’s a nasty case of Trump Paranoia Syndrome (TPS), not TCS. 

If you thought Trump won the election and should have won the Supreme Court case, your TCS affliction is both severe and not curable.

TPS is curable. The first step is to stop reading garbage from The Epoch Times, Judicial Watch, One America Network, and other similar sources. 

If that does not help, stop reading political garbage from the Washington Post, New York Times, etc., as well. 

Finally, you may need to give up Twitter, Facebook and and Social Media. 

What About Sleepy Joe Syndrome?

Inquiring minds may be wondering if there is a simple test for Sleepy Joe Syndrome (SJS).

Unlike Trump, Biden does not have much of a cult following. SJS is more subtle. But many millions are sleepwalking through events right along with Joe. Don’t be one of them.

I pledge to develop an SJS test soon. 

Meanwhile Let’s Review Some Notes 

Martian Moon Pies

OJ Comparison

Kraken Note

Lighten Up, Powell’s On It

Fake News

https://twitter.com/SteveRamsey333/status/1330406334106198017

Note on Rudy’s Slaughtermeter

Rudy’s Killing It

https://twitter.com/Pragmatictakes/status/1329480287131217920

What Makes You Think the Supreme Court Will Take the Cases?

Headed for Supreme Court then State Legislatures

https://twitter.com/SteveRamsey333/status/1328892892648140807

State Courts in Pockets of Marxist Democrats

What a hoot. Two appeals courts with Republican-nominated justices blasted Trump.

Question on Dates

One Last Fleecing of the Flock

The Delusion Continues

Note on Trump’s Legacy

Note on the Main Course

The main course was just served. 

Yet Another Delusional Note: Never Over

Where We Are Now

That’s an accurate assessment of where we are. 

Yet for some, it will not be over even if Trump is put in prison for tax fraud. 

Trump will break out of jail donning his superman outfit and fly right back into the White House.

That folks, is TCS in its most extreme form.

Stay Tuned

Please stay tuned for my Sleepy Joe Syndrome test.

There will soon be an overwhelming need.

Mish

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George_Phillies
George_Phillies
5 years ago

‘Release the Kraken’…It’s closer to ‘release the pink lawn flamingos’

brian henry
brian henry
5 years ago

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MISH should read so he does not look like:
” He has Extreme LEFT Cult Syndrome”

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

To maintain a Democracy, you need two things. First, you need a free press, that reports the facts. Second, you need people to have faith in elections, and to accept the winner, even if the winner is not the one they voted fore, and in fact, especially if the winner is not the one they voted for.

So, how do you destroy a Democracy (or Republic)? It’s a multi-step process:

  1. Attack the press as unreliable. This creates a trap. If they respond with antipathy, as you would expect, their natural instinct is to condemn the criticism, moving off center, in the opposite direction. This is exactly what you want them to do, and has the effect of making the criticism ring true.
  2. Once there is distrust in the media, people will get their news from other places. Those other places are easier places to plant propaganda, or they made be nothing but propaganda.
  3. Using those propaganda outlets, attack the mechanisms for elections, and the results. Plant seeds of doubt before the election. Plant more seeds after the election. Create a feeling that your candidate will be cheated, and that he/she has been cheated.
  4. Bring frivolous lawsuits alleging fraud. Actual fraud is not needed, nor is evidence of fraud. The point is to lose the lawsuits anyway, so that you can claim that the whole system is corrupt.
  5. Suspend the Constitution, and impose a “temporary” new government, under the control of the police and military, only until such time until new elections can be held, with all votes to be counted solely by the military and police.

This same scenario has been played out before, in Central and South America, and other places. It’s not new, and it frequently works. It changes with the times, though. Some years ago, the “alternate sources for news” would have been underground newspapers, or secret radio stations. Today they are internet sites. Still, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

jfpersona1
jfpersona1
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

When I read your outline, I first was upset and scared about the fact that it sounded so reasonable and yet led to a VERY dystopian result;

Then I was upset for a minute because you outlined a very reasonable way for people to basically overthrow our most cherished and hard-won institutions;

Then I realized that the people that may see what you’ve written fall into groups:

  1. Those that can’t really comprehend it — these are the ones to be used as cannon fodder and as a source of grifted funds
  2. Those that comprehend it and are not in support — they may or may not be in positions that can effect change, but they are also not dangerous to the fabric of the country; they are not supporting an overthrow
  3. Those that comprehend it and are actively trying to implement it — these are the dangerous ones, BUT THEY ALREADY EXIST. The question is whether they can be successful herding hordes of dolts (see (1) above) to do their bidding. Trump has been quite successful at marshalling his base and it is disconcerting how close we are coming to your outline, but I don’t think he’ll make it this time.

We have to look out for someone that can marshal those same forces but has just a bit more intelligence to be able to convince others higher up the IQ/EQ ladder.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  jfpersona1

The important thing to take away from my outline is this: Democracy is an unstable government. It does not usually last more that a few generations. In the US we have done better than that, and there are several reason for that. The primary reason we are currently at risk is that people take it for granted. They believe that our Democracy will will last forever. It will not. It will last only so long as we cherish it, and work to preserve it.

As an example of how the outline above can play out, read up on the 1954 overthrow of Guatemala

amigator
amigator
5 years ago

Just like your Florida call for JB was in correct there is a key point you are missing. When many people voted for Trump that wanted someone that is not a politician. We are not going to get any changes in this country until that happens. I will repeat that in case you did not read. We will not get any “signifiant” changes until there is an outsider elected. Thats the only reason I voted for him this time and last. There are many many like me. They don’t care who is in there as long as they are not part of the establishment.

So I took your test my answer to question 2 is I do not care! I do not know but I know electing JB who is a 47 year politician. What will Happen? Exactly what has been happening the past 47 years. No chance of true reform or change.

It’s just the simple!

Tengen
Tengen
5 years ago
Reply to  amigator

Trump only portrayed himself as an outsider. He threw more money at the MIC than ever before and racked up debt as fast as he could. He also constantly cried about the Fed being too hawkish, when in reality they’re insanely dovish.

You could vote for Honey Boo Boo at this point and it won’t matter. We embarked on the path of QE and ZIRP in 2008 and now it’s time to pay the piper.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

But first more of the same, extend and pretend, kick the can again and again.

MarkraD
MarkraD
5 years ago
Reply to  Tengen

“”…someone that is not a politician….”
1, Circus clown
2, Janitor
3, Sewer worker
4, Truck driver
5, Comedian
6, Mafia hitman
7, Serial killer
8, Mental patient
9, prison inmate
10, corpse

Any of the above would’ve been better, solely for the fact the Trump so frequently went contrary to professional advice for the sake of appearing defiant for his angry Neanderthal base.

Countless thousands of unnecessarily dead Americans because last Spring we were told “It’s only 15, soon to be zero”…No need for face masks.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  amigator

The core job of the President is to be a leader, and to a be a uniter, especially in times of crisis. Do you feel that Trump did a good job with those things? Are we, as a country, more united that four years ago, or more divided? When faced with the crisis of Covid, or the crisis of Floyd, was Trump able to lead, and to get the whole country united on a common goal, and focused on what we have in common, rather than on our differences? Did Trump ever call for the country to unite on anything?

2020 gave Trump the opportunity to show his leadership abilities. Had he been a leader, and a uniter, he would have won re-election by a landslide.

JBbrooks
JBbrooks
5 years ago

Most of you are ill informed, period, including Mish. Take your lazy ass over to your duckduckgo app and start researching the money that Zuckerberg poured into areas of strong democratic voter bases, which is projected to be upwards of $400mm, just from his “nonprofit” (no telling what else poured where from others) . Then try to find anywhere in the US where money was spent like that on corresponding strong republican districts. This election was all hands on deck, “all you crooks used any hooks you can think of”. Mish himself bitches about Illinois, and yet appears to want “an Illinois” statewide. Our degradation of voting laws and the incorporation of questionable tactics will likely be the final leg removed from the table holding up law and order.

MarkraD
MarkraD
5 years ago

lol, great thread.
Just had a “debate” with a good friend that has “TCS”, when I won’t acknowledge his regurgitation of election rig conspiracy theories he tells me I need therapy, and he’s serious.
The takeaway from the whole Trump experience is that P.T. Barnum’s “every minute” equates to approximately 30% of the population.

MarkraD
MarkraD
5 years ago
Reply to  MarkraD

Can’t find “edit”, just wanted to add that 30% of the population being that receptive to such an obvious con is VERY encouraging from a sales/marketing perspective….I’m a small biz owner, times are good if you know the target demography.

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago

Chris Christie is back to wearing his A.G. hat. He says there is no evidence and the legal theory behind Trump’s Supreme Court challenge “an absurdity” . If you can’t accept that you are in the cult. You probably get your sports news from “Sportsmax” where the Jets win every week

compsult
compsult
5 years ago

There are enough fires burning in our country Mish. Why do you want to throw more gasoline on top? What we need is peace and reconciliation…

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  compsult

What an odd question. Mish is simply summarizing what has happened, and predicting what is likely to happen, and explaining why they are happening. There is someone throwing gasoline on the fire, though. His name is “Trump”. If he would simply admit that he was defeated, and work on the transition, the country could begin to heal. He probably won’t, however. Instead, it is more likely that he will see how many more things he can break on his way out the door.

Herkie
Herkie
5 years ago
Reply to  compsult

When the fires of fascism are raging the gasoline is thrown when you go along with the the fascists, the only way to beat fascist propaganda is with the cold water of truth. And it has to gush over every false claim. The fact that we have people claiming that they know the court battles are just to buy time and the real victory is coming at the points of their guns, the “storm” is here, you think you can beat that by pretending they do not exist?

By the way hi Carl, and Sechel, Mish.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

By the way, since no one has mentioned it, the correct answer to the question “How do you get to the Supreme Court if you don’t lose in lower court” is “You win, and the other side appeals.”

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

Today in DC (rioting tonight) the Trumpers turn against the GOP…

In one of the videos, a speaker with a bullhorn climbed a stage and denounced popular right-wing pundits Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk. The speaker then introduced far-right figure Nick Fuentes, a self-described “white majoritarian.”

Fuentes took the stage and ripped into the GOP, attacking lawmakers for not standing by the commander-in-chief.

“At the first Million MAGA March, we promised that if the GOP would not do everything in their power to keep Trump in office, then we would destroy the GOP,” Fuentes said.

“And as we gather here in Washington, D.C. for a second Million MAGA March, we’re done making promises. It has to happen now, we are going to destroy the GOP.”

The speech prompted “destroy the GOP chants” from a large group of Trump supporters.

As the crowd chanted, Fuentes ripped the GOP for expecting those who support the commander-in-chief to vote for Georgia Senators Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue.

The activist described the two incumbents as “RINOs” — Republicans In Name Only — apparently suggesting that the January runoffs need to be boycotted.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

They already have destroyed the GOP. They are the true RINOs. The Republican Party will take years to recover from Trump.

RonJ
RonJ
5 years ago

Karl Denninger: “…we had an election that was one of the most-outrageously insecure and corrupt in my time on this planet. It was facially illegal under the Constitution in a whole host of states simply because non-legislative modifications were made to procedure and those are facially unconstitutional — pandemic or not.”

Denninger is no fan of Trump.

After the 2016 election, The folks running Google said we can’t let this happen again. If you think it was a free and fair election, the truth eventually comes out.
Notice that we are learning new things about Hunter Biden, now that the election is over.

rete
rete
5 years ago
Reply to  RonJ

Karl Denninger is a blowhard who proclaims himself to be an expert on….everything. He has as much proof of election fraud as Rudy does….nada.

Karl Denninger also very much prefers the original Trump’s promises of a wall, wanted Hillary prosecuted and jailed, wants zero migration from anywhere not only sh***ole ountries, wants citizenship restrictions, thinks Covid-19 is a hoax and wearing a mask is un-American, thinks Jared & Ivanka are “socialists”, wants unrestricted open-carry of AR15’s if you so choose anywhere in the country, wants any felon to never vote again even when their sentence is complete, etc. etc. etc. In short, Karl Denninger doesn’t like Trump because Trump is not extreme enough. But Karl Denninger would very much like Trump over Biden.

Dubronik
Dubronik
5 years ago
Reply to  RonJ

Just for fun let’s take a poll: Is RonJ suffering of TCS or TPS?

wxman40
wxman40
5 years ago

And he would have gotten away with overturning the election if it weren’t for these meddling kids

Tengen
Tengen
5 years ago

TCS is the result of online echo chambers. It’s almost hard to believe that supporters had sane opinions about Trump in 2016, but once he entered office people started to fantasize about what he would do rather than actually observing him. People traded these fantasies and kept upping the ante, creating the concept of 4D chess.

By 2020 too many people came completely detached from reality and hadn’t read dissenting opinions in years. Over on ZH people honestly thought Trump would win 40+ states, and comparisons were drawn with Reagan/Mondale. The only explanation for this is being steeped in groupthink for way too long.

Now that reality has intruded they’re not happy, plus they have to reckon with the fact that Trump’s main accomplishment in office was gleefully adding to our mountain of debt.

2thguy
2thguy
5 years ago

Make sure you do an article on how to tell if you have Anti-Trump Cult Syndrome, Mish

jfpersona1
jfpersona1
5 years ago
Reply to  2thguy

You want an article on how to be normal?

I think there’s a SpongeBob episode about that, actually. Maybe you can get some pointers there.

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
5 years ago

Mish how about something on Trump selling out the 9/11 victims in trying to push through his Sudan/Israel deal? Not to mention the selling out of Western Sahara on the Morocco deal.

amigator
amigator
5 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird

Trump not selling out. AGor FBI will not release critical information for law suit to continue. Let’s see if that changes with JB. My money is it will not change. We have to protect our secrecy at all costs…….

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
5 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird

Trying to force 9/11 litigants to accept $700M so that Sudan gets off the terrorlist as part of the deal to play nice with Israel is indeed selling out those 9/11 families.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

Today…A federal judge in Wisconsin dismissed a lawsuit from President Donald Trump seeking to overturn the results of the election in the state. Judge Brett Ludwig, who was appointed to the bench by Trump in September, wrote that the claims in the suit “fail as a matter of law and fact.”

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  njbr

None of his lawsuits have any chance of winning. All have been deficient is both law and fact. His attorneys surely know that. So, my question remains, why do they keep bringing them, knowing that they have no merit?

Raj Kumar
Raj Kumar
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

Simple to collect the money from his gullible supporters…

ColoradoAccountant
ColoradoAccountant
5 years ago

OK, this is getting worse. Utah leads Colorado and we (Colorado) are 4-0 in the PAC 12, tied with USC. Bannon told Trump how to win the 2016 election, go for the Heartland, all in. Trump fired Bannon, ego clash. Since then Trump has spun out of control. After winning the heart and soul of America (farmers and working class), he still wants to be invited to Davos.

shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago

I really don’t get it. What does he say or do which inspires such a cult following?

Dubronik
Dubronik
5 years ago
Reply to  shamrock

Shamrock, remember A sucker is born every second.

Bobx
Bobx
5 years ago
Reply to  shamrock

What did President Trump do?
Finished off ISIS
Fostered peace agreements between Israel and previously hostile ME countries
Brought industrial jobs back to the US
Improved overall employment
Improved minority employment
Reduced illegal immigration
Massively reduced human trafficking
Improved the stock market
Enabled the rapid production of vaccines against COVID-19
Forced European countries to agree to their NATO obligations
Reduced the rape of the US by China using tariffs
Calmed down North Korea
Didn’t start a war (that’s a first)
Pulled the US out of the Paris Agreement
Substantially focussed attention on improving the treatment of veterans
Made major investment in the military
Positively supported all police services nationwide
Denounced white supremacy so many times you can’t count it
Made the media, big tech, Dems and RINOs expose themselves as fascists, liars, hypocrites and cheats
…. there’s much more

Pretty good in 4 years considering the relentless onslaught against him. Twice successfully defended himself against impeachment. The main mega-funded operation against him for Russian Collusion proved there wasn’t any.

Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
5 years ago

Bye

MJC363
MJC363
5 years ago

MISH- how about discussing the Great Reset and the rise of communism

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago

Scott Adams has morphed into one of his own Dilbert characters. He has the gravitas down but once you parse and analyze his arguments he doesn’t have any. I’m a huge fan of Dilbert but Adams himself is loony and not worth paying attention to.

Sechel
Sechel
5 years ago

If you only get your news from right wing blogs and can’t get yourself to read the ny times, ft, reuters or washington post and use terms like libtard, RINO or demorat, you got TDS.

It’s no accident that this phenomenon happened after the introduction of cable tv and the availability of social media echo chambers. back when we got our news from three networks and a local and national news paper our opinions could differ but we at least operated from the same facts. today beliefs all too often substitute for facts and the public lacks the tools to distinguish

Kimo
Kimo
5 years ago

I am surely entertained, and expect the Supreme Court to chart their own way through this mess, the majority of which still lies ahead of them.

numike
numike
5 years ago

hmmm are they not the ones with big Trump flags perched on their big trucks?? https://www.wfla.com/news/proposed-missouri-bills-would-legally-protect-drivers-if-they-hit-protesters/

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  numike

I do have some sympathy for people who are unwittingly trapped in vehicles during riots…..and that has happened a number of times since it first happened in ’92 in the LA riots.

Here, last year, an Uber driver was forced to stop by BLM protesters who were blocking a street…..and when one of the protesters pointed a gun at the driver, he shot and killed the protester. Turns out some Uber drivers are active military….and have cary permits.

The protesters dispersed. The driver turned himself over to authorities immediately and was never charged….and I think that was the way it should have gone.

The problem with laws like those being proposed in MO is that they might allow some aggressive driver to plow into a crowd as an act of violence and get away with it. That has happened a number of time now too.

Riots where people get pulled out of cars and beaten and so forth….makes the case for concealed carry. I was never a big fan of concealed carry….but that is one scenario (however unlikely for most of us) where it seems justified.

For instance, I had to drive through Charlotte the day after the 2016 riots there..as it turned out we had no issues, but traffic had been stopped and 16 police officers injured the day before….I was worried, and routed way around town.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago

I will admit to having Trump Paranoia Syndrome. He has done a great deal to undermine our Republic, and has nearly destroyed it in four short years. My TPS will resolve itself when he is no longer in a position to do destructive things.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R

What I wrote about having TPS….I wrote that BEFORE I read this.

LMAO.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago

Those of you feeling good that the Senate did not join in the SCOTUS case should remember that Mitch has 2 candidates still running in GA. They will determine his political fate. I would guess that Cruz being out front in proposing to do the oral arguments is also about Cruz’s political future–pehaps he sees himself, at least, as the Majority Leader after the 2024 elections–part of the bright Trump family future.

After the GA election polls close on Jan 5, there is still time for Senate and House shenanigans on the Jan 6th 1 pm joint session.

We’ll see then.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago

The problem with chalking the insanity to “derangement” or “delusion” is that is doesn’t identify that there is a well coordinated, well financed source of deliberate disinformation that is feeding the delusion.

There is a non zero chance that one of those delusional posters is simply a bot disseminating disinformation.

KS Farm Boy
KS Farm Boy
5 years ago

Louis: “well coordinated, well financed source of deliberate disinformation.” And, I might add, profitable, due to those “independent journalists” who worship President Trump and gain by their YouTube viewers ‘likes’ and monetary contributions.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago

I really liked the part about how “Mish thinks he can brush it all away with his frilly elitist sleeve”. Priceless.

Fwiw, Mish, you don’t look all that frilly and elitist to me…….but then, people are often surprised to see what I look like…..in my frilly elitist t-shirts and jeans.

Avery
Avery
5 years ago

Mish,

Texas would have had no legal standing regardless of this case.

Presidents Tyler and Polk did not have Texas properly admitted as a state under The Texas Annexation Of 1845. Tyler. went rogue on was conspiring with John C. Calhoun behind the scenes. The Senate had rejected their plan. Just prior to Polk’s inauguration Tyler sent a messenger to Texas for the closing of the unlawful deal. Polk was aware of this but did nothing, as he was a great expansionist no matter the ways or means.

Texas is therefore still a Republic. They can leave at any time with the boundaries they had at the time in January 1845. Polk didn’t buy any title insurance, either – haha.

This case came up later with Hawaii. President Harrison tried Tyler’s maneuver, President Grover Cleveland did not let it come to pass and did not close the deal. President McKinley, another expansionist like Polk, quickly and illegally closed the deal. Hawaii can as their own republic, too, or perhaps sell themselves to Japan or China.

Why do you think the peaceful protesters tore down and desecrated a statue of McKinley in Chicago a few weeks ago? They know their history and are beginning the fight for an independent Republic Of Hawaii.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Avery

You know the Republic of Texas guy (Richard McClaren) who started the conspiracy theory BS you’re repeating actually went to jail, right? Is still in jail afaik.

davebarnes2
davebarnes2
5 years ago
Reply to  Avery

I look forward to Texas becoming part of México again.

LM2022
LM2022
5 years ago
Reply to  Avery

Texas can leave and take Elon Musk with them.

sunny1245
sunny1245
5 years ago
Reply to  Avery

Mount McKinley in Alaska is now called Mount DENALI!

Saunders62
Saunders62
5 years ago

Trump prison duty will be used as a discipline tool during agent training.

LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
5 years ago

If Trump is jailed as a result of state charges in NY, will the secret service be required to provide him shower protection?

Nodak1
Nodak1
5 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird

OMG
Been on MSNBC again I guess

T3064wj
T3064wj
5 years ago

TCS is equivalent to Trump Derangement Syndrome, another diagnosable condition except it affects liberals.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago
Reply to  T3064wj

It’s not derangement when the things you complain about actually are, you know, true.

T3064wj
T3064wj
5 years ago

Complaining about Russian Collusion, for example, is real? Part of of TDS is thinking things are real when they’re not.

Saunders62
Saunders62
5 years ago

Hard left? Mish deals in verifiable information and common sense. The first commenter above should take the TCS test at the beginning of this post. I’m beginning the recovery from TPS.

MSCowboy
MSCowboy
5 years ago

I’ve followed Mish for years, since at least 2005, but it’s only been the past year or so that I’ve seen him and this blog turn hard left. I’m out—doesn’t impress me anymore. It used to be really good.

njbr
njbr
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

You obviously are not in reality often enough to know what “hard-left” is.

I suggest a little time in you safe space to recover from this blow and then go to Parler to save you more hurt feelings.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

To the Trump Cultist, anyone who is not for Trump must be radical hard left.

Complete nonsense.

Avery
Avery
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

MSC, When something doesn’t make sense, looks “off”, then you just have to follow the money. This isn’t Mish’s Global Economic Analysis from 2007, right? The Street needs clicks, not someone like Old Mish expounding on Ludwig von Mises and Austrian Economics in a post-grad seminar.

Mish, I bought pitchers of beer for our table at a couple of those Natural Resource expos in Rolling Meadows back in the day, around 2008. When you asked about where someone would go all-in as an investment I said “farmland in southern Ontario”, mainly because things were so f -ed up here. 2008, twelve f-ing years ago, my friend.

It was always going to be F-ed up. The Trump Phenomenon, both his fans and enemies, just pulled the curtain back the curtain in front of the stage to reveal a brick wall, as Zappa once said. Best president this country could have right now is Gorbachev, who had experience in dissolution of disparate lands and sub-cultures.

hmk
hmk
5 years ago
Reply to  Avery

“Follow the money” Mish last February deleted a post from someone that had made a case that the Chinese virus was released either on purpose or accidentally from the Wuhan bioweapons lab, and that it was genetically altered. He was so fast in deleting this even though I thought there was some credibility to the post and article. Did you ever wonder why he is so pro China even though they are such a malevolent force in the world? Has no one wondered if there is any Chinese funding reaching these sites? Also stopped following for the most part because this site has turned into an inbred leftist echochamber. How pathetic most of these posters are. Anything conservative is evil and most be a cult member of Trumps. Good riddance.

Brockley1
Brockley1
5 years ago
Reply to  hmk

^^ Definitely a cult member for Trump right here !

Jeff Larry
Jeff Larry
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

Nailed it. Mish can do what he wants with his site but anyone who believes the quality of content and the general tone of articles hasn’t been on the decline is simply not paying attention. I see many commenters on other boards who have posted similar comments. Mish may have left Illinois and moved to The Street but he seems to have left his blog behind.

If he believes what he writes now is what he feels he needs to write, even if it costs him a hard earned reputation and readers/revenue, I’m not going to cast stones. Just wish it wasn’t this way.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Larry

> Mish can do what he wants with his site but anyone who believes the quality of content and the general tone of articles hasn’t been on the decline is simply not paying attention.

That’s not because the quality of Mish’s writing has gone down, that’s because you view quality through a partisan lens.

I expect this whole thread to be nuked in short order.

Anda
Anda
5 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Larry

What’s funny is that thestreet was a complete put-off for most of his previous commentators, remember the last comments ? A few followed and maybe a few more with different pseudonyms, but the rest of the crowd here now are something else. So I wonder if it isn’t Mish feeding the different commentators he picked up, that that has created a bias, sort of self reinforcing feedback loop. Certainly it’s not for the clicks because he lost many, maybe for the controversy, maybe he’s working for intelligence to sound out one corner of socio-political reality? Hopefully that will make him laugh. Anyways, I’m not here to stir anything up and it’s just funny to have to take on a slightly different “character” to approach his new style :/ . I don’t think he is far left, but too establishment, globalist or msm maybe, and they are often left. Obsessed with Trump for some reason also, maybe just doesn’t like him or something, but writing against him daily for months is sort of extreme and could not be called balanced without knowing the full reason.

ZH are having fun now also with their site renovation , though I don’t participate there you sense the mood when it changes.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Anda

So many well-meaning long term readers…….so disappointed in Mish.

Is it because he bailed on the criminal buffoon TV character Trump?…or is it because everything he predicted in this entire election cycle turned out precisely as he said it would?

Here’s a clue. people will continue to read Mish because he gets a lot of things right, and he isn’t afraid to say what he thinks. It isn’t about the clicks. No way.

Go read somebody like Scott Adams, who probably realizes he got it very wrong by now, but can’t quite undrink the Kool-Aid. Give him your clicks.

Anda
Anda
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

No, I’m talking of well before Trump.

JG1170
JG1170
5 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

To be honest, he’s gotten almost everything wrong since I started following a decade ago (or so). I follow just because I’m an incorrigible permabear who believes that this whole bubble is being held together by chewing gum and a money printer at this point…and this blog scratches that itch and makes me feel a little less insane/wrong. Although, since I do believe in having a clear and AT LEAST tamper-resistant election, I’m now officially insane. So be it.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  JG1170

You never complained about all the other elections for the last forty years, which were run pretty much the same way, other than there being more mail-in ballots in this one. That alone is what changed, and no evidence has been shown that doing that materially affected the outcome.

So yes, you are insane.

As far a Mish being wrong, he wasn’t wrong when he said hyperinflation wasn’t about to happen. He wasn’t wrong when he said the way to understand inflation is to look at the money supply and growth in credit, rather than prices of a basket of goods and services.

Everyone who was bearish on equities a decade ago got fooled, myself included.

Everyone who was bearish on the long bond did too.

It’s on thing to understand that we have currency problems and a system that is going to implode……its quite another to be able to call the day it happens. COVID could have been the trigger, but it hasn’t been, so far. However, the story is still out on that, in my view, We have a ways to go before we’re in the clear on that.

But whether it is, or isn’t, we still have to invest, we still have to try to hedge against the inevitable if we can…..all bubbles pop eventually. The value of every fiat currency eventually goes to zero. Or at least that’s been a longstanding pattern.

I regard Mish as a mentor….but he’s only one of a handful of good ones. There are others, and it’s good to listen to as many good mentors as you can find.

Trump is not a good mentor, btw.

Jmurr
Jmurr
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

Wow, Mish is still obsessing over the election that ended a month and a half ago.

Louis Winthorpe III
Louis Winthorpe III
5 years ago
Reply to  Jmurr

Tell that to Trump who still hasn’t conceded, and his cronies who just filed their lawsuit with SCOTUS Dec 8th.

Tengen
Tengen
5 years ago
Reply to  Jmurr

This is one of the more disingenuous posts I’ve seen in a long time. Geez, I wonder why people are still talking about Trump and the election???

MJC363
MJC363
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

Yes- all trump all the time.

How about addressing something real and important, like the Great Reset- what it means and how to subvert it.

Carl_R
Carl_R
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

MSCowboy, never judge a site, or content, based on whether or not you agree with it. Instead, judge a site, and content, based on the accuracy of it’s predictions.

Trump Pandemic
Trump Pandemic
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

bye morn

Tollsforthee2
Tollsforthee2
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

Mish hasn’t changed a bit since I have been following him over a decade ago. Those who fell under the spell of Trump should be glad for the courageous few who are willing to boldly and publicly call out the incredibly corrosive assault Trump has attempted.

Tengen
Tengen
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

Not even sure what left/right means anymore. Nowadays the sole indication of being on the right seems to be Trump support. Trump’s no fiscal conservative, and I’m not sure he could be considered a social one either. His rhetoric and personal life are at odds there.

When the political spectrum revolves around people rather than ideas or concepts, that’s a really bad sign.

Dubronik
Dubronik
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

Another Clown…….Is he suffering of TCS or TPS?

Nodak1
Nodak1
5 years ago
Reply to  MSCowboy

He should of stayed in Illinois for sure

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