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A One-Word Synopsis of the Latest Plan to Avoid a Shutdown – Lie

I am seriously sick of Johnson’s charades. Let’s discuss his latest scheme.

Republicans Float Novel Plan to Avert Government Shutdown

The Wall Street Journal reports Republicans Float Novel Plan to Avert Government Shutdown

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R., La.) planned to huddle with rank-and-file GOP members on Friday to lay out a plan to avert a government shutdown at midnight, while reopening communications with Democrats still steaming after the collapse of a bipartisan deal.

Discussions in the GOP focused on holding separate votes on different portions of the package, rather than one catchall bill. Two people familiar with the party’s thinking said the votes would likely be divided into three sections: funding federal agencies for three months; providing disaster relief; and aiding farmers.

Under the approach, lawmakers would pledge to raise the debt ceiling and cut spending next year, but not vote on it now. President-elect Donald Trump has demanded that lawmakers vote to raise the borrowing cap before he takes office.

Pledge to Reduce Spending Later

What?!!

Yes, that will surely work, like all past such pledges worked.

And to get there we need to divide and conquer.

Mish Synopsis of Johnson’s Divide and Conquer Deficit Plan

  • Take a deficit pie
  • Cut the pie into three pieces
  • Pretend the sum of the pieces will shrink the deficit at some magical point in the future on a pledge to eat the pie now and pay for it later.

The Correct Response

The correct response to this silliness is twofold.

  1. Remove Johnson as Speaker right now
  2. Go home for Christmas

There is no need to pick a new speaker today. And there is no pressing need to avoid a shutdown either.

Dear Congress, Please Shut Down

I repeat: Dear Congress, Please Shut Down, There’s No Need to Address the Budget this Year

The Government can survive until at least March and possibly May.

This is the first time in 6 years Republicans have had the chance to play hardball. So don’t F it up.

By the way, if this latest bit of asininity succeeds, blame Trump, no one else. Trump could stop this cold right now if he just would come out and say “Merry Christmas, Go Home.”

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vboring
vboring
1 year ago

Many, many executives have learned over the years that disagreeing with Musk is a career-ending decision.

GOP members will learn to fear him. His bucket of money and huge social media reach is likely enough to cause them to lose their next election.

This is the world we live in for now. Hopefully he mostly chooses to be a for good.

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
1 year ago

End House product (Plan C) passed (with huge approval) and ended up where I thought it would with my earlier posts. Republican House did a CR (again!), BUT added to the deficit even more with disaster relief and farmer aid. That way, the ‘deficit-weary’ Republicans can get more for their constituents, but not technically vote to specifically increase the deficit since they weren’t separate packages.

Real change usually takes time, and this time was no different. When Trump and the Republicans take full control in one month, they won’t be able to do this any more and will have to make real decisions (and specifically cuts) OR face their constituents with shrugged shoulders and “at least Biden is out”

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago

“A One-Word Synopsis of the Latest Plan to Avoid a Shutdown – Lie”
Only if their mouths are moving.

El Capitan
El Capitan
1 year ago

I think that Trump is not really sure what President Musk wants, and that is leaving Republicans in the house mixed up. You have freedom caucus guys voting no, and Trumpite reps like Johnson pushing forward. I think President Musk needs to communicate more clearly to them all with some more tweets.

Flavia
Flavia
1 year ago
Reply to  El Capitan

Yes, the House is confused about who is actually going to be president.

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  El Capitan

Musk is paying Trump $1 billion/month to be allowed to play at President, since he is Constitutionally prohibited from running for the office.

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  El Capitan

Look, a new narrative.

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
1 year ago

“Trump could stop this cold right now if he just would come out and say…”

Right now, the process is more important than the end result. Reaffirming that people like Johnson have to go is best done sooner rather than later.

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago

This is a super video with former Congressman Bob McEwen describing how we (again) came to be in yet another ‘up against the wall’ budget extension.
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Possible government shutdown looms

Veering toward a midnight Friday government shutdown, House Speaker Mike Johnson is proposing a new plan that would temporarily fund federal operations and disaster aid, but punts President-elect Donald Trump demands for a debt limit increase into the new year. LiveNOW from FOX host Mike Pache spoke to Bob McEwen, former Republican Congressman from Ohio/House Intelligence Committee on the latest.

Posted December 20, 2024 3:25pm EST

https://www.livenowfox.com/video/1565552

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo

The democrats and rinos would like us to believe that we’re up against a wall.

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Bayleaf

Or perhaps, dancing hard to portray self-contradiction, chaos, disorder, and government by sudden tweet as 5-D chess? What, Trump couldn’t have called Johnson in the first place and just talked? It had to be done like this? Even assuming I agree with the basic aims, this seems a pretty bizarre way to do business.

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago

This is NOT the time to be trying to decide complex issues like how to reduce the deficit. That should have been done months and years ago. The focus now should be simply passing a budget to keep the government running for the next few months..

Once Trump gets into office, we can see if he can really deliver on his campaign promises to cut the deficit.

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo

No, we need to shutdown

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Bayleaf

That will work just like it did all the other times, right?

larry mcgrath
larry mcgrath
1 year ago

On Jan 3 Congress changes and Senate goes to REP. House has 8 or so new members but just 219 members. Why make agreements that will not be enforceable unless a deal is signed within the next 2 days

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
1 year ago

Mish, Trump already posted this morning that the shutdown should happen on the Democrats’ last month, not on his time. So why would he go on record now (not that he’s really cared before about what he said in the past) that everyone should go home without doing their actual job of funding government? That would be an in-the-face ‘screw you’ to the citizens instead of a stab-them-in-the-back-while-they-are-not-looking move

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago

Rep Massie is right.

This isn’t complicated.

Separate the bills and vote on them individually.

one vote on the clean CR

one vote on the debt limit

one vote on disaster relief

one vote on farm bailouts

Radical right? Individual bills for each issue.”

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Yes, I’m unsure why Mish is upset by this procedure. Yesterday, he posted the Republicans should put forth a bill that the Democrats could not support and be held responsible for the consequences (although I commented then the cuts he wanted the Republicans to propose to the Democrats would probably never happen).

Separate votes allow everyone to be seen and heard; so I agree with you.

I doubt it will happen this way because then even the Republicans would have to vote they are adding to the deficit to protect disaster victims and farmers (who could buy their own private insurance BTW). Or else they will be on the evening news – like Mish posted yesterday

Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

This is how it is supposed to work. See my link to a video describing the budget process below.

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

Agree with everything except the CR. Shut ‘re down.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bayleaf
David Rowan
David Rowan
1 year ago

In their defense (a little), voters always seem to blame republicans for shutdowns. Like the saying goes, you get what you vote for.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago

GOP has power, why would they care about anything else, such as doing right by the USA and its citizenry?

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

Buzz. They aren’t the President yet

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

They seem to be presuming they are, based on this level of intervention, no?

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago

Where’s Biden and why is the guy you voted for doing nothing?

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
1 year ago
Reply to  realityczech

This might be one reason not to shut down the DOE because people like you and Midnight did not learn some important information in school about how the Constitution spells out duties to different branches.

See the House starts spending bills, and then the Senate votes to confirm it, and then the President gets the chance to veto. So right now, that’s on the Republicans – as it has been for two years. Vote on it, and then let the Senate have its turn. The President is really a by-stander in this process until the end – unless you’re Trump and Johnson is your whipping boy.

There’s your free civics lesson for the day, and I won’t even charge the taxpayers for it.

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

I understand how it works. President has a lot of say about what he wants and is willing to sign and not veto….and he’s completely missing and demented. Zero leadership

HubrisEveryWhereOnline
HubrisEveryWhereOnline
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

I’m glad you had that education and did not have to drop out early; sometimes it’s hard to tell with people

But who cares about Biden’s leadership now; he’s a lame duck (plus again, he does not get to write up the bill). Trump is the one currently showing all his voters (and the rest of the US) how this leadership prowess is exacted. So just revel in it

peelo
peelo
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

The first bill was presumably what Biden wanted. OK, he is diminished, we all now that. But a bipartisan agreement was reached that it seemed he would sign. What is missing then?

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
1 year ago
Reply to  realityczech

Who?

Bayleaf
Bayleaf
1 year ago

If you mean the RINOs, you’re right. Else you’re wrong.

Last edited 1 year ago by Bayleaf
KGB
KGB
1 year ago

He governs best who governs least. Shut down the government and the world will be a better place.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  KGB

Your implied claim that he is playing an elaborate game of chess to shut down the government is hogwash. This is obviously a display of utter incompetence.

Last edited 1 year ago by randocalrissian
Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

Shut it down till Spring

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago

Mike Johnson prints like the kid who’s trying to please everyone, but really only cares about ripping people off. He needs to go with 90% of Republicans and 100% of Democrats. Congress is in shambles, just as our financial house is. Enough already.

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
1 year ago

No hardball game on deck…
MAGA Republicans don’t know how to play with others…
just with themselves.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago

100% of their voters can just call you a commie and feel like they have owned you. GOP SOP

Midnight
Midnight
1 year ago

Generally you are commies

Abert
Abert
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

… said the clown

realityczech
realityczech
1 year ago
Reply to  Midnight

It’s not that they are communists, but they absolutely are rubes. To vote for Biden and then to vote for Headboard means they don’t learn from mistakes.

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