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After Five Months of Bickering, Biden Releases a “Framework” For Build Back Better

Social-Spending and Climate Framework

Please note we finally have a Social-Spending and Climate Framework.

Mr. Biden addressed House Democrats Thursday morning to provide an update on the spending package and a parallel bipartisan infrastructure package that has been held up by progressives in the House. Mr. Biden will then deliver remarks from the White House, and one of the people familiar with the matter said he would provide a path forward on his economic agenda before departing for Italy.

“The president believes this framework will earn the support of all 50 Democratic senators and pass the House,” a senior administration official said, adding that the White House would defer to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.) on 

Whether the major policy concessions Mr. Biden made to centrists will be acceptable to progressive Democrats remains unclear. Mr. Biden is expected to tell Democrats that he trusts Sens. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D., Ariz.), two pivotal centrists in the talks, according to a person familiar with the plans.

Unclear Framework

  • Good News: We have a framework
  • Band News: We don’t know if Progressives and Moderates will support the alleged framework
  • Ugly News: If we don’t know if the framework has support, do we really have a framework?

What’s In the Frame

  • A one-year extension of the expanded child tax credit through 2022, plus a provision making that break permanently available to low-income families that don’t pay income taxes. 
  • Six years of universal prekindergarten
  • Six years of child-care subsidies
  • $150 billion to support long-term care for elderly and disabled Americans.
  • $555 billion for climate-related provisions, including $320 billion in 10-year expanded tax credits for utility-scale and residential renewable energy, transmission, electric vehicles and clean energy manufacturing.
  • Surtax of 5% on adjusted gross income above $10 million and another 3% on AGI over $25 million. Those taxes would effectively raise the top tax rate on ordinary income to at least 45% and raise the top capital-gains rate to 31.8%.
  • A 3.8% investment-income tax to active business income, hitting high-income owners of many closely held businesses.
  • A 15% minimum tax on profitable corporations, higher taxes on U.S. companies’ foreign income and money to increase the Internal Revenue Service enforcement staff.
  • A 1% excise tax on corporate stock buybacks.
  • $35 billion to broaden Medicare benefits to cover hearing

Excluded From the Frame

  • Democrats abandoned plans to include a paid-leave program in the bill,
  • Billionaires’ wealth tax
  • A rule requiring banks to report account flows to the IRS
  • Changes to estate and gift taxes and higher corporate tax rates.
  • Paid leave 
  • Free community college
  • A program aimed at pushing utilities to generate more clean energy
  • A proposed series of top marginal-tax-rate increases
  • Medicare broadening will not include dental and vision benefits

Complaint of the Day

“Manchin is getting everything he wants and Bernie is getting almost nothing. Why? Because Manchin is willing to kill the bill and Bernie isn’t. Progressives will have no power until they’re willing to kill bills.”

Fight! Fight! Fight!

“Showing you’ll ACTUALLY fight (not just talk about fighting) is the ONLY way to keep it alive”

What a hoot!

Three-Point Synopsis 

  1. The alleged framework is down from $3.5 trillion to $1.75 trillion, still a bit over Manchin’s stated goal of no more than $1.5 trillion. 
  2. It’s unclear if the climate and tax provisions are acceptable to Manchin and Sinema. It’s also unclear if Progressives will hold out for more. 
  3. Bernie Sanders, AOC, and the Progressive Caucus twice threatened to kill the bill if they did not get what they want (and they did not get what they want).

Question of the Day

Do we really have a framework?

Curiously, I side with the extreme progressives in hopes we don’t. 

Alas, I suspect we are close to a framework that will waste $1.75 trillion leaving everyone but two Senators unhappy. 

Hell No!

Here’s one Hell No

Here’s a “Who Knows?”

How to tell if there is a supported framework: If Pelosi schedules a vote, she probably has them. If not, she doesn’t.

Perhaps there is a symbolic rejection before passage. 

But Bernie Sanders is now a potential third problem in the Senate.

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LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
4 years ago
I like the tax on stock buybacks; wish it had been higher to perhaps finally discourage companies from doing these things.  
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Stock buybacks were actually illegal.  They were viewed as stock price manipulation, and rightly so.   But then came Reaganomics and made it legal.  
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Buying umbrellas when it rains, is umbrella price manipulation. Dear Leader should tweet something mean!!!
Business Man
Business Man
4 years ago
“A 1% excise tax on corporate stock buybacks.”
I like this forum because there are multiple viewpoints, even if I disagree with some of them.
For the life of me, I cannot figure out why Democrats hate stock buybacks?  They whine about it like it’s an out of control grub problem on their beautiful lawn.
Can one of the socialists/progressives/Democrats here tell me why?
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Business Man
Stock buybacks don’t create jobs.  They boost the stock price so the insiders can sell. The buybacks also hide the dilution caused by the issuance of millions of shares to those people.
Also, some companies borrow money to buy back the stock.  Essentially, they are converting equity to debt.   This makes the companies less sound financially.   And when things go bad, guess who gets the ax?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
It’s worse than that.  The money blown on stock buybacks often means they don’t have money for R&D or other things when the economy turns slightly against them.
Boeing is famous for this. Blew 70 billion on buybacks and then had their hand out during Covid to avoid bankruptcy. Had they not blown that cash they could have easily weathered the storm. Instead gov’t doled out corp welfare to them. Should have wiped out the stock holders in bankruptcy OR they should have issued more stock to get cash from investors.
Intel is also in this exact same boat now. For decades a cutting edge tech company under Grove. New leadership blew money on buybacks instead of R&D and now they need 50 billion from the gov’t to compete with Taiwan in the chip market they missed (Phones etc) due to stupidity.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Ergo, the problem is not “stock buybacks.” But that the government gets involved. Keep the Government and Fed away, and “stock buybacks” is exactly no problem at all.
As long as you have a government and Fed standing ready to hand billions to incompetents for simply being incompetent, even incompetents will always find a way to appear to “need” those handouts. That will never change. If it’s not stock buybacks, it will be other forms of malinvestment rendering the incompetents needy of “a temporary liquidity injection” or whatever the currently fashionable Newspeakian term for money stolen from productive people is.
One way or the other, as long as people remain so flat out retarded, in every way, that they fall for the nonsense that Boeing, or Intel or “The Financial System” “going bankrupt” is somehow worse than them not “going bankrupt”; and that Government, out of all things, have any business even being aware of any of it; they will continue to get robbed by a government and Fed set up solely and exclusively in order to do just that: Rob productive people, in order to hand the loot to connected people.
That’s all there is. The rest is just window dressing and fooling of the dumb, naive and gullible.
Business Man
Business Man
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I disagree that stock buybacks don’t create jobs.  You are assuming that the money just stops once it hits the shareholders.  
A buyback by theory indicates that the company does not have a better use for that capital.  It means that the company has adequate cash flow, and feels that the money is better when returned to its owners.
So when a shareholder receives money for their shares in a buyback, what do they do with it?  Well, most will probably reinvest it.  They will reinvest it in other companies that need the capital because they have a far better use for it.  In other words, most capital is spent on labor, as a company invests in building something, or its R&D.  Buybacks ultimately end up here, as a more efficient use of resources, rather than — like the government — as a wasteful expenditure that a legacy company does not need.
And whatever is not reinvested will be spent on consumption.  Maybe that shareholder buys a new car, or patio furniture, or a home.  All of these things create jobs, just in a different place.
As for making the company less sound, well that’s an opinion.  
I do agree with the comments below that when the government gets involved, we have a corruption of the process.  I do NOT support bailouts, and unfortunately this is a “we oughta make a law” moment where the government is not allowed to bail out a company that has done a buyback in the last ten years.  Maybe then the Directors of a company will be a bit more judicious with it.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
expanded child tax credit through 2022, plus a provision making that break permanently available to low-income families
  • Six years of universal prekindergarten
  • Six years of child-care subsidies
Now there’s an incentive to go out and earn a little more … lo-income parents don’t even need to stay home to mind the kids, they’re free to go and use!
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
I think the $1.75t package is reasonable for both sides. Which means it will likely never pass.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
I think at the end of the day, they will fall in line because something is better than nothing. Even Bernie has said this. Manchin and Synema got what they wanted and  no one got 100% of what they wanted. If Dems let perfect be the enemy of good, they will get nothing. 
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
I have 3 kids, with a 4th on the way. 

So if they extend the child tax credit I’ll get 3k each for 3 kids and 3600 for the 4th who would obviously be under 6 years old.

That’s $12,600 in completely free (tax free I might add) cash added to my stash of wealth.

I’m currently buying 2 rental properties a year (100kish in price) and adding 12k a year to my income doing so, not including mortgage payoff and property appreciations, just cash in my pocket.

So, a family earning over 100k a year and likely to be worth at least a million in a couple years is getting $12,600 in free cash from the government.

That is absolute insane policy.  Anyone who votes for that is a nut job.  It appears we have a bunch of nut jobs in leadership in the USA.I am going to spend every penny of it buying rental property and jacking up rents as high as I can to pocket as much of everyone else’s Child Tax Credit as I can.  Every other landlord I know is doing the same.

This isn’t going to  help the poor at all.

cmc
cmc
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
I always hated renting exactly for this reason.  I was a good tenant who took care of the property, yet landlords only looked at me as a cash machine.  But yes, every company that caters to young families must have their mouths watering right now.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
“This isn’t going to  help the poor at all.”

And there is also the theory that it is so much money that they don’t even need to work.   So which one is it??   LOL

dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Both.

IN the short term, it’s very demotivating to work.  That means they will stay poor.  They’ll never accumulate assets, never get a good SS record and stay poor their entire life.

So yes, this is so much money that they don’t need to work to live, and that’s a terrible life.

whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Ah.  I get it!   Just the kind of drivel I expected to see.    Millions of working Americans work multiple jobs, with no sick leave or health care or meaningful public transport.   Yeah,  but they were “accumulating assets” even though they are barely getting by! LOL.   
dbannist
dbannist
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
SO you’d have them stay poor I see, not working.

What kind of chance does a person have to succeed financially if they don’t work?

Answer:  None.What kind of chance does a person have to succeed financially if they do work, even for low wages?

Answer: Better than none.

You choose none, I choose better than none.

whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
Well, that’s enough cotton candy for one evening!   Thanks 😉  LOL
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
“Millions of working Americans work multiple jobs, with no sick leave or health care or meaningful public transport”
The solution to that, must obviously be to rob those who work some more, so that Dear Leader can ceremoniously grandstand while handing a fraction of the loot out to a few visible destitutes….
Wasn’t it Pancho Villa who reckoned killing guys and stealing their stuff; then altruistically handing a portion of it back to the dead guys’ widow grand public displays, was a great way to buy public support?
In reality, if Americans are stuck working manury jobs for manury pay; the problem is a lack of better alternatives. Which is just another way of saying, better alternatives are too expensive. To improve that situation, bring non-labor costs down. Which, supply and demand and all, means, increase supply of anything non-labor which you absolutely need:
Most obviously covered space. As in: Get out of the way and let anyone build anything, anytime, anywhere, for any reason, without any restriction whatsoever. That just zeroed out both residential and commercial rents as a meaningful cost. Even poor people would be a lot better off if their rent was cut to 10%, don’t you reckon? Ditto the ability of their employer to pay them, if his ret was likewise….
And for costs which are not, in the very strictest sense, necessary: Get rid of them. As in: No mandatory insurance, no “regulatory compliance”, no “tax preparation”. No anything at all, other than, as narrowly as possible, just what adds value and nothing else.
That’s how America once did solve the “work multiple jobs, with no sick leave or health care or meaningful public transport” for those arriving from Europe: Just get out of the way and stay here, so that people can find their own way and optimize without arbitrary constraints, and without having to feed an ever growing leeching class producing nothing.
And also, “pubic transportation” is a very, very poor alternative to ones own two cars and three bikes. The latter is what “multiple jobs” buys one in a free country….
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Let’s call it for what it is…  BUILD BACK BULL$HIT,  aka TAX and WASTE
1) More social programs to encourage low income single-parent families to have more kids.
2) A gross invasion of individuality and free choice
3) Bugger-all meaningful infrastructure.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
This wasn’t meant to have any infrastructure in it.
There is a separate 1 trillion infrastructure bill that has all that in it. This is just the social and climate spending bill that was split off from the original money grab. But Dems say they won’t pass the bi-partisan 1 trillion bill until this one also passes.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Yes, I understand there is a House bill for infrastructure. That said, am I incorrect in thinking Pelosi has previously described this bill as part of the nation’s infrastructure–“people are infrastructure as well,” or words to that effect?
For example: education is truly a key part of ‘infrastructure’. Given that the US already spends more per pupil on education than any country, and rates about 30th in outcome, it makes more sense to FIX what is not working before wasting more money.
I referred to this  bill as TAX and WASTE, because like all social programs, the benefit falls short of the cost, at the same time as it permanently adds the program to the national ‘budget’. For example, the six-year horizon on child care and pre-school is a JOKE.
tbergerson
tbergerson
4 years ago
I dont really care about most of it but am interested in the climate provisions.  if it is just more spending on subsidies for stuff it will not kill the country.  If it has punitive items, proscriptions on energy financing and exploration, and prescriptions for how everything has to be done, it will kill the country and millions of people along with it.
As for the rest, it is only a matter of time before Mr Market has a psychological phase change when it becomes clear no one is even pretending any more about fiscal probity.  Then Schiff’s broken clock prognostications will finally come true.
Karlmarx
Karlmarx
4 years ago
Hmmm so reported GDP growth is – well actually negative, and inflation is running at close to 6 percent and these idiots want to both increase taxes and borrow another couple of trillion.
How did we end up electing this many morons to senior positions in government.  Something is surely not right with the world
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
You can thank the media, the USA’s fifth (or filth) column.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
You think morons are only in government ? You must not have looked at the private sector closely.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
I have worked in both.   I have seen morons in private sector getting 200K plus stock options that can get them typically another 50K.   And I have seen hardworking staff managers in government with tremendous amount of work and not even reaching 6 figures in salaries.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Karlmarx
Increased government spending during slowdowns is normal.
I worked for decades in financial services and government contracting. Government contracting is way easier. And most government employees wouldn’t last a year in the private sector.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Manchin can play the waiting game because he is playing for the super-rich people and corporations.  They can afford to wait for months if necessary, until they get their money.   But progressives cannot play the same game because they are fighting for the poor for whom even a month’s delay in getting any help can be catastrophic.    This basic asymmetry is why the super-rich and the corps get everything they want and all the others have to settle for crumbs.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
He’s one of the few voting for what his constituents want.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Rrrriiiiiight!   As we all know, all West Virginians are well-to-do young people with perfect teeth!  LOL
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
What does well-to-do and perfect teeth have to do with anything in this boondoggle?
There is not much in any of the proposals for average West Virginians or any other middle class person (or lower middle or upper middle).  It’s all for the very poor, the very old and some random climate stuff that likely won’t benefit anyone but the companies who get to feast at the government trough.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I was talking about Manchin opposing the Medicare dental expansion.    Average American seniors depend on Medicare and the poor even more so.  And West Virginia is not the Hamptons.   It is one of the poorest states in the country.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
No offense but once again we have no business paying for old peoples teeth beyond basic cleaning and cavity fills. They don’t have long to live and don’t need expensive care which often ends up as root canals, bridges and other stuff unless they want to foot the bill themselves for those things. Same with the poor,  we can do basic dental work for the poor (cleaning and cavities) but we have no business paying for braces or other expensive stuff.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
That is all was being proposed in the bill.   Basic dental care.  It was whittled down to $800 coupon and then reduced to zero now.  

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