An Interesting Divergence Between Initial and Continued Unemployment Claims

Initial unemployment claims keep rising. The 4-week moving average is the highest since November 13, 2021. Continued claims are another story.

Initial Claims Data from the Department of Labor, chart by Mish

  • In the week ending June 17, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 264,000, unchanged from the
    previous week’s revised level.
  • The previous week’s level was revised up by 2,000 from 262,000 to 264,000.
  • The 4-week moving average was 255,750, an increase of 8,500 from the previous week’s revised average. This is the highest level for
    this average since November 13, 2021 when it was 260,000.
    The previous week’s average was revised up by 500 from 246,750 to 247,250.

Initial Claims 4-Week Moving Average

Continued Claims

  • The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending June 10 was 1,759,000, a decrease of 13,000 from the previous week’s revised level.
  • The previous week’s level was revised down by 3,000 from 1,775,000 to 1,772,000.
  • The 4-week moving average was 1,770,000, a decrease of
  • 7,500 from the previous week’s revised average. The previous week’s average was revised down by 750 from 1,778,250 to 1,777,500.

Continued Claims 4-Week Moving Average

Divergence Between Initial and Continued Claims

Continued claims normally follow initial claims with a lag. Some people find jobs quickly, but others don’t. If initial claims are trending up, the normal pattern is for continued claims to do the same.

However, the 4-week moving average of continued claims is down for the second consecutive week. The current level is 1.770 million, down from a recent peak of 1.833 million for the week ending April 15. The moving average is below the level of 1.793 million on march 18.

I suspect seasonal adjustments may have distorted things. The rosy interpretation is that unemployed persons are either retiring or accepting jobs at a rate similar to those being laid off.

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John
John
2 years ago

Summer vacation is in swing..

Teachers and bus drivers will inflate these numbers initially!!

OC
OC
2 years ago

Continued claims seasonal adjustment is badly wrong. Suspect due to combined impact of COVID spike and drawdown and post GFC glide slope.

Just look at the history of CCs during 2018 and 2019 using their current revisions. Peaks in Sep before bottom in March/April.

The economy was weak then but no way enough to justify the cyclicality BLS seasonal adjustment would have you believe occurred two years running.

Six000MileYear
Six000MileYear
2 years ago

The data fits other labor reports, such as the growth of part time jobs. With plenty of part time jobs, it takes little time for someone to get off unemployment before benefits run out. If the person becomes unemployed a second time that may count as a second initial claim. Eventually the divergence will resolve itself.

KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago

Might be people who were happily unemployed now suddenly realized they have to start paying their student loans again, so got off their lazy rears and found a job.

MPO45v2
MPO45v2
2 years ago

“I suspect seasonal adjustments may have distorted things. The rosy interpretation is that unemployed persons are either retiring or accepting jobs at a rate similar to those being laid off. ”

It would be great to get a deep dive into those “retirement” numbers. The social security snapshot for May came out and showed 118,000 newly minted socialists receiving social security benefits in May 2023. This wouldn’t be all of the people that retired because the well off will retire and live off of pensions/401k/IRA/etc so the retirement number is always larger than the social security number.

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/quickfacts/stat_snapshot/

Siliconguy
Siliconguy
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

“This wouldn’t be all of the people that retired because the well off will retire and live off of pensions/401k/IRA/etc ”

If you retire before full retirement age and are in good health that is actually the smart strategy. Draw down the 401k before starting SS so the RMDs don’t drive you into excessively high tax brackets later.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Siliconguy

Plus you get higher benefits when you start collecting SS later. I think the ideal age numbers wise to get max benefits is to start collecting around 79.

All that aside, the Social Security snapshot that MP045v2 referenced doesn’t include people not eligible to collect. These are typically people who have guaranteed government pensions (teachers and such) who get their retirement that way and are ineligible for SS. So I suspect quite a few more than 118K people actually retired.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
2 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2

The well off will take the money, as late as possible.
Typically when the payment stops growing.
That’s why they are the well off.

MICHAEL BOND
MICHAEL BOND
2 years ago

Many contract workers jump to UE when their contract is up and take a “vacation”. I would not worry about new claims until they are above 300K. Continued claims is probably more important today statistically.

Joey B
Joey B
2 years ago

Or is the BLS being intentional about this?

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