Banks Shares Plunge and Dividends Cut as Commercial Real Estate Losses Soar

Banks in the U.S., Japan and Switzerland announced losses tied to troubled real-estate lending.

Banks Hammered on Three Continents

The Wall Street Journal reports Commercial Property Losses Hammer Banks on Three Continents

Shares of New York Community Bancorp fell 11% Thursday, extending a steep slide that began a day earlier when the company disclosed troubles in its commercial property book and piled away millions of dollars for potential future losses. On Wednesday, it closed down 38%, its worst day on record.

Tokyo-based Aozora Bank shares fell more than 20% Thursday, the maximum allowed on a single day under stock-market rules, after it said losses in its U.S. office-loan portfolio will likely lead to a net loss for the year ending in March. It would be its first annual loss in 15 years. Its president will step down on April 1, the bank said.

In Switzerland, the private bank Julius Baer said Chief Executive Philipp Rickenbacher resigned after the company took a roughly $700 million provision on loans it said it may not get back from Austrian property landlord Signa Group. The group said it would shut down the unit that made the loans.

Also on Thursday, Deutsche Bank DBK said it increased loss provisions in its U.S. commercial loan book nearly fivefold from 2022’s fourth quarter to 123 million euros, equivalent to $133 million.

What ties them together: Banks are big lenders to real-estate owners and developers, putting them on the front line of the downturn in office-building use and falling valuations.

NY Community Bancorp Plunges

Bloomberg reports NY Community Bancorp Plunges as Real Estate Risks Jolt Market

New York Community Bancorp, one of the winners as regional lenders struggled and collapsed last year, plunged by a record as investors worried it’s now the harbinger of the industry’s next source of pain: commercial real estate.

The firm, which acquired part of Signature Bank last year, stockpiled cash as it contends with lending risks — including a pair of troubled loans for a co-op complex and office space — as well as stiffer regulation due to its size. The bank’s provision for loan losses surged to $552 million, shocking analysts and shareholders.

The stock fell as much as 46% Wednesday, and was down 38% at the close of New York trading. The KBW Regional Banking Index dropped 6%, its worst day since a deposit run toppled Silicon Valley Bank last March.

Timeliness Department

  • Raymond James cut its rating on the bank to market perform from strong buy, with analyst Steve Moss writing in a note to clients that the quarterly results “will likely put the stock in the penalty box” until there’s “greater clarity around capital, credit and future business plans.”
  • Moody’s Investors Service said it’s reviewing whether to lower New York Community Bancorp’s credit rating to junk after Wednesday’s developments.

US credit rating agencies remain less than useless. They only warn after the fact.

Time To Break Up The Credit Rating Cartel

Please consider a few excerpts from my post Time To Break Up The Credit Rating Cartel, written September 28, 2007.

The rating agencies were originally research firms. They were paid by those looking to buy bonds or make loans to a company. If a rating company did poorly it lost business. If it did poorly too often it went out of business.

Low and behold the SEC came along in 1975 and ruined a perfectly viable business construct by mandating that debt be rated by a Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organization (NRSRO). It originally named seven such rating companies but the number fluctuated between 5 and 7 over the years.

Establishment of the NRSRO did three things (all bad):

1) It made it extremely difficult to become “nationally recognized” as a rating agency when all debt had to be rated by someone who was already nationally recognized.
2) In effect it created a nice monopoly for those in the designated group.
3) It turned upside down the model of who had to pay. Previously debt buyers would go to the ratings companies to know what they were buying. The new model was issuers of debt had to pay to get it rated or they couldn’t sell it. Of course this led to shopping around to see who would give the debt the highest rating.

The Solution is Amazingly Easy

Government sponsorship of organizations and intervention into free markets always creates these kinds of problems. The cure is not an executive shuffle, third party verification or half-measures and more regulation that mask over the issues by splitting functions within an organization. The SEC created this problem by creating the NRSRO. The problem is easily fixable. It’s time to break up the cartel by eliminating the rules that created it. Moody’s, Fitch, and the S&P; should have to sink or swim by the accuracy of their ratings just like everyone else. Ratings would be a lot better if corporations had to live or die by them. Free market competition, not additional regulation is the cure.

Current Model Less Than Useless

Any rating agency that gets paid on volume rather than accuracy is less than useless.

Those who want a true rating on an issue go to someone like Egan Jones. They do have to pay for the analysis, which is the way it used to be and still should be.

Instead the NRSRO whores get paid by volume instead of accuracy. We need to get rid of pigs and take away the trough.

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Casual Observer
Casual Observer
3 months ago

Commercial real estate didn’t recover after 2008. There are so many vacant properties after covid even in suburbs. Banks got use to low interest rates and now the tide will wash away the ones most reliant on commercial real estate for their profits. Meanwhile the real economy continues to recover. Hard to believe doing actual productive work rather than speculation could lead to a better economy.

Last edited 3 months ago by Casual Observer
babelthuap
babelthuap
3 months ago

Manufacturing buildings in NY were converted to condos and apartments but much of these new vacant buildings are cheap, ugly, nothing around them and not suited for conversions.

Demo but keep the parking garages and mandate all homeless encampments have to move to the parking garages. Set up industrial bathrooms next to the parking garages that can be flush out with fire houses once a month. I’m not joking either. Get the homeless to a central location and out of nice areas.

Jon
Jon
3 months ago

“The SEC created this problem by creating the NRSRO. The problem is easily fixable. It’s time to break up the cartel by eliminating the rules that created it.”

The credit rating agencies help finance congressional campaigns. Why would Congress ever force the SEC to change the regulations that benefit their campaigns?

The solution isn’t “amazingly easy”. It is impossible. 

DaveFromDenver
DaveFromDenver
3 months ago
Reply to  Jon

It can still be easy. Force the MM (Majority Medea) to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing buy the truth about this situation and every other. Once the voters know the FACTS the campaign contributions will no longer be the deciding factor. And how do we do that? Sue the MM to recover the $2.5Trillion they helped the democrats steal from the Social Security Trust Fund. If you don’t know what I am talking about then you will have to research the facts yourself. Which is what Mish and his readers should always do on every important issue anyway.

RonJ
RonJ
3 months ago

“US credit rating agencies remain less than useless. They only warn after the fact.”

That way, they can’t get it wrong. Question is, is there an ulterior motive for only warning after the fact?

Jay
Jay
3 months ago

Global stox at all time record highs, sounds kike a conspiracy of good news…

Norbert
Norbert
3 months ago
Reply to  Jay

Rightwing circlejerk long enough, and the bigots feel comfortable exposing themselves…

RonJ
RonJ
3 months ago

“Banks Hammered on Three Continents”

Snow banks in Antarctica remain unaffected, with a lack of commercial real estate issues.

Christoball
Christoball
3 months ago

Could be more than a little Karma involved. The USA has foisted more than enough urban decay throughout the world by either bombing or paying others to bomb urban centers around the globe. What is peculiar is that these attacks are propagated by civilizations that claim religious special-ness by their populous.

I remember my Uncle who was a poor man got chastised at church during the Vietnam War in the 70s because he couldn’t afford the tithing mandate of the clergy. This was in the Military Industrial Comlex Zone of Los Angeles California. Many in the congregation had well paying jobs with fighter aircraft companies. and where financially comfortable.

My Uncle had a prophecy, and declared to the congregation, “Just wait until this war is over, and you have been layed off at the plant, you will see how it feels to walk in my sandal”

His prophecy came true.

Avery2
Avery2
3 months ago
Reply to  Christoball

Government – Boeing success story in SoCal –

link to nrdc.org

jeco
jeco
3 months ago

Is this the de-banking trump talked about?

Norbert
Norbert
3 months ago
Reply to  jeco

He was channeling Tatoo from Fantasy Island… De-Bank! De-Bank!

His grasp on reality was never firm, but it’s completely gone now.

Last edited 3 months ago by Norbert
Doug78
Doug78
3 months ago

Commercial real estate, or any real estate for that matter, is a local market so we would have to look at it city by city. Let’s assume that the bottom has already fell out of the market for commercial real estate and banks and companies are fire-selling their holdings. You, an astute investor, have $800 million to invest. Where would you buy?

Stu
Stu
3 months ago
Reply to  Doug78

Certainly not in any Democrat city for sure, or state for that matter. I would personally look at the tax free states for starters. Then bunch your top 10 Republican cities and states, and pick 3-5 to visit. So 9 tax free + 5 Republican (overlap of course) states and cities to visit. Not insurmountable of a task for your future living space. Many are near one another as well, so I wise investment of your time, and money in the end. That’s what I would do, or already did actually, and am quite happy in my extremely low property tax state which is also a no tax state!!! I pay roughly 60% less in overall taxes, on a property twice as large and a home that’s slightly smaller, but worth nearly twice as much! Give it a shot, and you will be amazed at the savings out there, in the right location for you…

TomS
TomS
3 months ago

Mish, don’t worry. The Fed’s got this. In case you don’t recall, it’s called a backstop.

I for one will be happy to see several Evergrande Group level extinctions, $340B, here in socialist America.

KGB
KGB
3 months ago

Jerry Powell and his banks are in the real estate management business. Their mission should they chose to accept it is to create value for an empty building in a crime infested, highly taxed, congested, inaccessible, sewer of a city. I suggest reducing the tax by demolishing the building with explosives.

Doug78
Doug78
3 months ago
Reply to  KGB

That’s a Mission Impossible!

PapaDave
PapaDave
3 months ago

S&P 500
Free cash flow by sector:

Real Estate 0.5%

Tech 2.7%
Consumer Disc 3.4%
Industrials 3.8%
Consumer Staples 3.8%
Materials 4%
Health 4.4%
Communication 4.9%

Energy 9.2%

TomS
TomS
3 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Drill baby, drill!

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 months ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Interesting.

Do you know whether those numbers are in line with historical standards for those industries?

Karl
Karl
3 months ago

I wonder how Trump’s CRE portfolio is performing? According to Forbes, he has about $1.75B of NY-NJ retail, offices, condos and golf resorts (2023 valuation, probably inflated). Wouldn’t this be similar to NY Bancorp’s CRE book?

Don Jones
Don Jones
3 months ago
Reply to  Karl

Great questions!

Stu
Stu
3 months ago

Losses tied to troubled real-estate lending… You don’t say!

– Banks are big lenders to real-estate owners and developers, putting them on the front line of the downturn in office-building use and falling valuation.
> Nobody saw that coming, obviously, or they would have had things in place for it… or Did They?

– When the SEC creating the NRSRO (some refer to them as the: Nationally Recognized Statistical Rating Organization, or also aptly referred to as: The Cartel), it created the problem, and it still exist today. It’s time to break up the cartel by eliminating the rules that created it.
> Hey Politicians! Anyone? Is that crickets…

Did we ever really, and truly stand a chance? I ask that to myself, but then I wake up and realized I thought the same thing when I jumped out of an airplane, and then a hang glider, just to be sure. We will be ok, just a speed bump or two…

David Olson
David Olson
3 months ago
Reply to  Stu

The bank loan officers supposedly know as well as Mish does that the Rating Agency ratings are worthless, usually higher than reality. I would like to know what they do to compensate. Or are they no better than Charles Prince, CEO of Citigroup, -> fall of 2007. “If the music plays, you’ve got to dance.” ?

Tony
Tony
3 months ago

What a big surprise? Except that this cancer took longer be admitted.

Don Jones
Don Jones
3 months ago
Reply to  Tony

They manipulate the numbers, concoct bailouts (MORAL HAZARD STYLE), insider trade the shares, and F&CK over SMALL FRY (that would be us) in the markets and then expect GOODNESS?

PAUL
PAUL
3 months ago

YOU ARE VERY CORRECT! “US credit rating agencies remain less than useless. They only warn after the fact.” t Time To Break Up The Credit Rating Cartel, IS THE BEST STEP FORWARD.

Peace
Peace
3 months ago
Reply to  PAUL

What?
You don’t know how capitalism work.

Don Jones
Don Jones
3 months ago
Reply to  Peace

ADD “CRONY” to the word, “Capitalism.” There are NO free markets, other than when they screw us over and then the markets work just fine.

Jon
Jon
3 months ago
Reply to  Don Jones

Free markets are impossible with a government. Free markets are also impossible without a government.

Norbert
Norbert
3 months ago

The elephant in the room just shat on the floor… how long can we pretend it doesn’t stink?

Don Jones
Don Jones
3 months ago
Reply to  Norbert

You forgot to add that the floor is made of US CITIZEN FACES, looking straight up and bewildered.

Avery2
Avery2
3 months ago

“Whooocoodanoode!?”

RIP Tanta – Calculated Risk blog ~ 2008.

Last edited 3 months ago by Avery2
FDR
FDR
3 months ago

Buying Signature Bank’s assets and liabilities at 25% or so of par didn’t help.

Banksters aren’t trusting banksters!

Next pit stop will be what is euphemistically called FED repos or QE 6.

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
3 months ago

Few banks ended the day with a large buying tail on high vol.

MiTurn
MiTurn
3 months ago

San Francisco is the poster child for bad commercial real estate issues. Empty office buildings, empty malls, empty store fronts. Kind of scary, at least for the Bay Area wokesters.

michael
michael
3 months ago
Reply to  MiTurn

The entire bay area is full of empty commercial real estate

FUBAR111111
FUBAR111111
3 months ago
Reply to  MiTurn

All cities run by woketards are totally collapsing into ruin, which is every major city in the USA.

Look at pictures of those places from 60 years ago, and compare to the bombed out looking ruins of today. That’s what putting liberals in charge gets you – decay.

Don Jones
Don Jones
3 months ago
Reply to  FUBAR111111

The only thing that WAS good about Wokesters is that they made for great humor fodder. NOW I am sick to death of them being in charge.

David Olson
David Olson
3 months ago
Reply to  FUBAR111111

I saw a great photo(s) comparing Detroit and Hiroshima almost 79 years ago (Aug. 1945) vs. today. A stunning contrast.

Woodsie Guy
Woodsie Guy
3 months ago

“….Those who want a true rating on an issue go to someone like Egan Jones….”

Serious question. Why doesn’t everyone (buyers of debt) who wants an accurate rating just use Egan Jones and ignore the others? What am I missing?

Last edited 3 months ago by Woodsie Guy
Norbert
Norbert
3 months ago
Reply to  Woodsie Guy

Lots fewer deals would get done, netting them lots less money.

Mike D
Mike D
3 months ago

Banks are being pummeled by bad commercial real estate loans at the same time Trump is bring tried for making good on his commercial real estate loans.

FDR
FDR
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike D

And how many times has filed for bankruptcy?

FUBAR111111
FUBAR111111
3 months ago
Reply to  FDR

What does that have to do with anything? (Besides showing the strength of your TDS)?

Bankruptcy is a legal business decision, totally unlike the garbage lawfare “prosecutions” of Trump, which are typical tactics in 3rd world bannana republics, like the Democrat States are.

CzarChasm Reigns
CzarChasm Reigns
3 months ago
Reply to  FUBAR111111

How Trump Fooled Deutsche Bank
link to forbes.com

I wonder how many of their other clients liked to make shit up.

Last edited 3 months ago by CzarChasm Reigns
FUBAQR111111
FUBAQR111111
3 months ago

Forbes?

hahahahahaha

Sure. He really fooled them. Borrowed money, then paid it back, with interest, in full.

Cope harder. Deutsche Bank testified they had no problems with Trump’s borrowings.

Keep watching CNN and reading Forbes.

Go vote for Biden again. Loser.

Jon
Jon
3 months ago
Reply to  FUBAR111111

Yes, but 20 year olds should never, ever be able to declare bankruptcy to get out from under ruinous college education debt!

Norbert
Norbert
3 months ago
Reply to  FDR

The man bankrupted a casino. He’s special.

CSH
CSH
3 months ago
Reply to  Norbert

“The house always wins”… I guess not?

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