Biden Forces Russia to Default, the Repercussions May be Serious

Sign of Stupidity

Forcing Russia to default was the subject of a Tweet thread I was involved in on Monday. Here’s a recap.

My Position: Default is not a sign of strength by Russia, it’s a sign of stupidity by the West. Instead of paying bills, Russia gets to keep reserves. Instead of getting money, corporations, mainly in the EU, get nothing. This is a really stupid thing for the West. Period.

That was in response to the following Tweet.

Manufactured Defaults and Spotlight BRICs 

Absolutely No Return

There’s absolutely no return to the old normal of global financial markets.

How Stupidity Happens 

1. Politicians would rather do something counterproductive than do nothing at all

2. When caught doing something that does not work, politicians would rather double down than admit a mistake

Those discussions took place yesterday. Everyone above should be proud of their analysis except the person who started the topic. 

Crossing the Rubicon

If we took the ideas above and combined them into a post, it would look remarkably like this post that came out on Tuesday.

A Rubicon, Crossed by Eurointelligence author Wolfgang Münchau.

One of the lessons during the global financial crisis was the need to avoid binary outcomes, as in defaulting on all of your debt. The Romans, of course, have known this for much longer. When Julius Caesar and his army crossed the northern Italian river Rubicon into Roman territory, he could not go back.

Russia’s default, together with the freezing of central bank assets, is the financial market equivalent of a modern Rubicon crossing. There is no way back now. Or to put this into modern geopolitical jargon: there is no off-ramp for Russian finance.

In normal times, a default cuts you off from the financial markets, but Russia is cut off anyway. That Rubicon has been crossed with the financial sanctions. The default has therefore no further short-term consequences. But it might become a problem later. If the west ever agreed to lift the sanctions, for example as part of a Russia/Ukraine peace agreement, the default cannot be reversed. You can unfreeze assets. But you can’t un-default. 

The problem with crossing the Rubicon is not only that you can’t go back. It is that the best option at that point is often to double down and go forward. This is what Caesar did. If you default on one part of your debt, you might as well default on the rest. 

 As a direct result of financial sanctions, Russia has started to diversify its foreign reserves, and is working on a parallel payments system infrastructure. We are entering a period in which the US may lose its global financial monopoly, which is at least in part due to a lack of alternative infrastructure. The dollar won’t be easily displaced as a global currency, but there is no reason why the countries known as the Brics should transact among each other by channeling flows through the US jurisdiction.

From our admittedly skewed perspective another Rubicon has been crossed since the start of the Ukraine war: the de facto abandonment of European strategic autonomy. 

The things about Rubicons is you can’t go back later when you want to. We are crossing a lot of them right now with consequences that will outlast the war in Ukraine.

G-7 Agrees to Cap the Price of Russian Oil Using a Buyer’s Cartel

In case you missed it please see G-7 Agrees to Cap the Price of Russian Oil Using a Buyer’s Cartel

It’s another round of economic madness.

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honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
1 year ago
Democrats love Nato, sell more weapons, start proxy wars while they loot the citizens and impose their Bolshevik ideals….
dpy
dpy
1 year ago
This whole campaign to destroy Russia and “westernize” it’s natural resources seems to be mostly accelerating the interconnectedness and trading for ALL of the developing countries of the world. Interesting twist on the end of empires, unless we are mssing in our historical knowledge what was going on behind the scenes on the other side of the fence from the famous “empires” that we get taught about.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Something is going to break soon.
BDR45
BDR45
1 year ago
The West’s politicians have never understood the law of unintended consequences. Maybe, as Europe is collapsing, it doesn’t really matter any more, anyway. Ukraine is the center of the next world war, soon to be on our doorsteps it looks like.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago

Are the financial gurus who purchase bonds seeing the “default” as a real default (say an Argentina type default where the country can’t pay its bondholders) or just a load of nonsense to be ignored once the sanctions are lifted as Russia is solvent. Plus with the reserves that Russia is salting away I guess they will not need to borrow for years or decades. Also I presume that once Ukraine and the west capitulate Russia will demand its frozen reserves back and maybe even a few hundred billion reparations ( no pay then no gas and no peace).

Jackula
Jackula
1 year ago
The Biden foreign policy plan: make Russia and the BRICS stronger while completely screwing the EU.
Sebmurray
Sebmurray
1 year ago
These type of posts always remind me of your Law of Bad Ideas Mish. It seems to apply in spades these days
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Sebmurray
Gresham’s Law is what I think that’s called.
Carl_R
Carl_R
1 year ago
Anyone thinks that we can quietly have a war without some turmoil in the financial markets, and some economic pain on both sides is thinking far differently than me.
jfpersona
jfpersona
1 year ago
Even if you thought there was a lower than ‘average’ percentage chance of default, there still had to be a very significant chance of a Russian default baked into everyone’s (at least everyone paying any sort of attention) behavior. I would think that this doesn’t actually change anything very much – we’re only recognizing officially what everyone knew to be a probable outcome.
Long (as in decades) term outcomes may be ‘serious’, but we all can get used to them over time (although there is a ‘frog in the pot’ aspect to this). It is the shorter term reactions that cause the most acute pain – and this doesn’t seem to change much in the short term. The question this actually poses is whether there are significant knock-on effects that ramp up the short term pain – I guess we’ll have to see who’s clothed and who’s not as the tide moves out.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  jfpersona
OMG! Nobody told me this was a nude beach!
Too much BS
Too much BS
1 year ago
G7 Madness, These fools keep looking for the corner in the round room they’re in.
Dutoit
Dutoit
1 year ago
If there is not anymore trading between the west and Russia, I don’t see what is the problem for Russia to default. Will this perturb trading with China, India, South America, etc ? Maybe if the west threatens these countries by “sanctions” also ? Will the goal to “isolate” Russia end with the isolation of the west ?
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
wrong : oil co work in Russia.
Cocoa
Cocoa
1 year ago
This is all a business decision. We want natural gas to come from us or Qatar. Plus we want to have control over Ukrainian farming and the water. Sad times but that’s how the USA thinks. Our corporate benefit means your dead people
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
1 year ago
Whatever you do, don’t throw me into the briarpatch.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
I find Timo’s point interesting in thinking that China and Russia want this global economic change. If that were the case, there was no need to invade Ukraine to accomplish it. China and Russia, or any nation for that matter can change whatever economic policy whenever they want to, they don’t need wars or defaults to do it.
Let me list some countries: Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc. What do these countries have in common? They were invaded by the US on the premise that the US would land there, “liberate the oppressed masses” and presto chango democracy and free market economic prosperity delivered.
The same magical thinking occurred in letting China into the WTO, they were supposed to turn democratic and free. If you want to know what China and Russia want, just look at past history and the patterns of the culture. There is nothing magical here, people don’t like to change what they are used to for the past few generations. It takes centuries to make change. China and Russia want centralized power and control and the people of those nations seem content to give it to them.
TimoH
TimoH
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
You hit the nail in the head. Why would anyone start a war to disrupt the financial system in a fundamental manner? It does not make any sense!
Or does it? Here’s what I’m pondering: (Tinfoil hat mode: on)
Both Russia and China have demonstrated significant willingness to switch the global power system from a unipolar one to a tri-polar one. Would such change, that necessarily needs to weaken the US hegemony, be possible without firing a single shot? I don’t think so. The question is only about who shoots first and where. If you shoot first, you can do it outside of your borders and you can in a way control the flow of events and the response from your enemy. Maybe that’s what Russia was thinking. Maybe that’s what China is right now considering as well. Cross the Rubicon and don’t look back. Make the enemy overreact?
Russia and China have declared “collaboration without limits” in recent months. Therefore I’m assuming, that they are in this plot together. It was Russia’s role in it to start the conflict. Or maybe it was China who started the preparations of this conflict by making a mess of the global logistics and supply chains and thus starting the inflation?
As to how to weaken the US hegemony in the most efficient manner… just look at what’s happening in the financial system. Moreover, the energy crisis is already here, the food crisis is somewhat possible and a currency crisis may follow.
We westerners should be way smarter about how we confront Russia (and China). We have to do it to protect our way of life and we really can’t afford any further f*ckups. What weapons do we have available in this economic war?
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Slobo Milosevic.
TimoH
TimoH
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
It would be nice, if the switch from the current unipolar world order to a tri-polar one could happen without firing a single shot. I don’t think that’s realistic. It is only a question of who shoots first and where.
My theory is, that China and Russia have jointly decided, that now is the right time to start the change. I hope they’re wrong.
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Interesting to see what has actually happened in Iraq since the US “liberated” it. Starting in 2019 there have been anti-government protests against corruption and poverty, and the government has killed over 600 protesters. The Iraqi people are poorer today than they were before the Iraq war. Still, all the big oil companies are now in Iraq making money and that’s the important thing.
JeffD
JeffD
1 year ago
Dark Ages 2.0
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Russia default increase US portion of the debt to gov debt, a small price for faking punishment Putin, uniting UK, France, Germany, Poland…
behind us.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
“Default is not a sign of strength by Russia, it’s a sign of stupidity by the West.

Instead of paying bills, Russia gets to keep reserves.

Instead of getting money, corporations, mainly in the EU, get nothing.

This is a really stupid thing for the West. Period.”

We are no longer in a transactional economic relationship with Russia. It has passed to the stage of confrontation. The economic ties are being cut so the question of Europe forgoing getting money from commerce with Russia has already been answered. They will do without because they no longer trust Russia in anything. The two sides have objectives that are mutually incompatible. It’s a raw power struggle now on all fronts and even if one does not want it and deplores it nevertheless that’s the way it is.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
You seem to think most Europeans give a rats a$$ about Ukraine. They don’t. Only politicians do.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Considering that Europeans experienced the horrors of being invaded, occupied and having their countries destroyed in living memory they see what Russia is doing to Ukraine and say that could be me and they don’t want it. Not again. Europeans vote and have had ample opportunity to say they don’t care but they didn’t say that to their elected representatives. Quite the opposite. Most of them do care. They see the danger.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
They were invaded by Germany. Russia helped liberate them. And only the most brainwashed or willfully ignorant believes there’s any chance Russia would invade western Europe.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Not quite so black and white. The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact made Russia and Nazi Germany allies from 1939 till Germany invaded them in June 1941 after having conquered Western Europe with the help of Russia steel, oil, gas and natural resources. Strangely enough those countries “liberated” by Russia are all friends with Germany now and want nothing to do with Russia. The Russian liberation left very bad traces.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
So it was Russia’s fault even back in 1939?
The West’s fate was sealed somewhere around 1936 when they let Germany re-arm against the treaty of Versailles and battle test their forces and develop the Blitzkrieg tactics in the Spanish Civil War. That enabled Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland and finally the West to be over run. Had England and France done something in 36, none of what happened in 37 and beyond would have come to pass.
SAKMAN1
SAKMAN1
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
It goes back further than that. It is easy to argue that had Russia simply ended their mobilization prior to WW1, it would have never happened. They were afraid of technology and innovation making them obsolete then, just as they do now.
It is ever the goal of tyrants and priests to destroy progress.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Just that Stalin and Hitler were strong allies between 1939 and 1941 and split Poland between them. The West didn’t want to believe that Hitler wanted war. They believed him when he told them that all he wanted was a bit of Czechoslovakia and that was all. Churchill knew Hitler wanted war and he was right. We see the shades of the same thing today. Putin wanted war.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
let me quote Churchills words, which you never heard but can verify ; “This war is an english war and its goal is the destruction of germany (1939) ” you must understand this war is not against Hitler or National Socialism but against the strength of the german people, which has got to be smashed for once and for all, whether in the hands of Hitler or Jesuit priests” Churchill (Emrys Hughes in Winston Churchill – His Career in War and Peace , page 145
erkulas
erkulas
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Nop. It was Russias fault in 1941 and 1949 when Stalin moved >30000 people in Estonia from their homes into un-survivable conditions in the middle of nowhere in the east. No electricity, no transportation, nothing there. Half of them perished like my grand-relatives (only the young 17-25 survived) – weather on route or while “living” there. My grand-grandmother sold the ONE thing she could bring – a pillow made of feathers … to have some meat over the first christmas for her offspring (yes they were deported too if they were >14). No it’s not a fear story – she couldn’t tell it because she died there. The people who were 17 and came back they are not idiots like you and me – they lived to tell and are better than you or me for it.
Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland – they are now Europe. You might not like it but we are here and we are not going anywhere. And we have a different understanding of history than the “winners”. You better get used to it! Though luck you poor Americans, French, Englishmen, Swizz. It’ll be so hard to pay 1 more dollar for gasoline while people in Europe – yes Ukraine is Europe at least the continent, France just didn’t get the memo yet – are killed in war.
Instead of thinking you know history. What you SHOULD be worried about is Poland and all other big countries surrounded by Russia wanting to have nuclear weapons now. After all the threats from Russia of nuclear weapons every sensible country around Russia will want one. And in time they will get it.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
you got that WRONG again ! WW2 (and ww1) are fn’ England made’ , just like WW3 will be ….some people, if any, never change …
Dutoit
Dutoit
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
West Europeans are invaded and occupied now.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Not now but when you see it happening next door you take measures to prevent it. The head of Finland described it well when he said the Russia is not the neighbour we thought it to be. When Finland and Sweden break their neutrality to join Nato you know that it is serious. When even Switzerland joins in with the sanctions you know they too are seriously worried about their security.
Dutoit
Dutoit
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
The only invasion we have is from the south.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
Un malheur ne vient jamais seul.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
….et certainement pas quand le maudit US est impliqué….
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Switzerland ?! I am sure the fn US of A threatened this all time neutral nation with fn sanctions too if they did not abide by the rules of the Lord and Master of the universe….for the next couple of months anyway….Your fn ‘democratic’ (LOL) hegemony is coming to an end ….
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Maybe they just don’t trust you Russians anymore. Occam’s Razor.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Yeah sure, Occom s razor on their fn neck….
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Dutoit
But across the Atlantic from the East.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
Yeah sure , Russia wants Germany, France , Benelux, even the PIGS … Not all yanks are deluded like you…thank gowd…. That being said , as far as I am concerned, Russia can have the Balcans and the Baltics again….the world was still a better place at the time…. You wouldn t know of course, merely living the american dream….
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Why so angry comrade? Stomping feets and saying lies only get you approval from morons? Com fight for mother Russia! Stop hiding in Belgium.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
You are right that Putin wants the Baltics and the Balkans comrade. They know that which is why they asked to join Nato.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
….so why not let him have them….your fn nation wanted (and failed) to control the ME (and Russia)….POWER is what it is ALL about….we re only human after all, nothing gonna change that , unless you thought otherwise ….Btw, give him a like to Zardoz … poor lonely bastard
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“Politicians would rather do something counterproductive than do nothing at all”
Especially if it didn’t require a political response in the first place.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“The problem with crossing the Rubicon is not only that you can’t go
back. It is that the best option at that point is often to double down
and go forward.”
The important question: is World War 3 on time?
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Yeah, we are rapidly approaching the point where Putin says, “Oh, what the heck” and pushes the red button
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
When you consider most American casualities will be Democrats, you’d think Biden would be less confrontational.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
There’s a major problem with that: the prevailing winds. If Vlad uses the nukes, it won’t be in Europe.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Not yet. Major wars happen well after deep bear markets end. Russia is in a financial bear market. The West is just starting one. Russia and the US are more likely to have major civil wars.
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
I thought that Russia can’t issue new bonds in the West anyway because of sanctions, so forcing an artificial default is unnecessary and only punishes Western holders of Russian debt. Super, super stupid.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Why can’t they un-default. If I held the Russian debt, I would accept an un-default at a later date. Has to be a lot better than a default.
As soon as countries stop prioritizing selling to the US market, USD will lose reserve currency status. By far, the biggest reason USD is held in reserve is because countries have been devaluing their currency relative to it. They buy USD in exchange for their currency to increase supply of their currency relative to USD. Looks like China and Japan have stopped doing this. Others will almost certainly follow. And once the ball starts rolling, countries will be dumping USD debt before it drops even more.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
You can’t undefault because the Russian bond holders need the payment now to pay out to those who hold the bond. What are people who rely on those payments as their income supposed to do if this drags on for a couple of years?
Most bonds are insured so the bond holders will move to collect insurance. Thus insurance companies have to pay out now. That money can’t be paid back to the insurance companies in the future as an ‘undefault’ because the money will be long spent by bond holders.
Also the value of the bonds will drop dramatically. Many will be sold at a steep discount. There is no way to undo those sales and restore ownership in the event of an ‘undefault’ that restores the bonds to their original value.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I would guess the majority of the bonds were held by central banks. They would just hold the bonds and not collect interest payments.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
So if necessary the central banks simply create money to replace the lost interest – and increase inflation.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  KidHorn
As long as the dollar system is intact, they have no real alternatives. The minute you accept a dollar in payment, that dollar winds up holding Treasuries. And for now, if you won’t take dollars for your stuff, your economy will be ruined. As screwed up as it is, the system “works” for both sides. But if those dollars can be frozen and confiscated at will, it will come tumbling down. Not tomorrow or next month, but it’s going to happen.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Mish, have you written anything about both the pros and cons of being the world’s primary reserve currency? I know you’ve written what a burden it would for for China because it forces the issuer to run trade deficits, but aren’t there some pretty powerful advantages too? It looks to me like the U.S. is being cavalier with the dollar’s status. Russia obviously wants to service its debts. It baffles me that “the West” wants the debts not to be serviced. I’m truly scratching my head over this.
As for the dollar, I have to say that if I were, say, Brazil, the sanctions would make me pretty eager to look for alternatives to dollar suzerainty. I think of the Nazi askimark and how the dollar increasingly resembles it. But it also, for now, reminds me of what either political party says to its stalwarts when they get restless: “Where do you think you’re going to go?” Here we are, with the sanctions having powerfully unmasked the dollar as a chimera, yet it’s gone up and retains its safe haven status for now. “Where do you think you’re going to go?”
Reserve currency discussions get murky and circular, and frustrating. Not to mention being fodder for whackjob magical thinking, owing in significant part to the murkiness and complexity of the issues. It would be interesting to read a clear, concise, objective, methodical analysis of these issues. From where I sit, it seems pretty clear that the euro is not a worthy replacement. Gold has a major problem or three, starting with the fact that the supply grows by 1.5% a year but the world economy grows by 3%. Special Drawing Rights doesn’t look like it ever got off the ground. “Where do you think you’re going to go?”
One way to skin the analytical cat might be to sketch out a catastrophe that forces the issue. If, for instance, the U.S. implemented “modern moentary theory” on steroids, and we went the way of Zimbabwe right now or Germany in the early 1920s, and the dollar simply became unsustainable even in the short run, what would arise to replace it? How would a new system work?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
I think this all misses the actual point which is to try and cause enough turmoil at higher levels of the Kremlin so that Putin is deposed and decapitated by the Russians themselves.
The Rubicon has been crossed but it isn’t an economic decision.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Even if Putin is deposed, there is ZERO chance that any Russian leader would be fine with NATO poking the Russian bear from inside Ukraine.

“In more than two and a half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests.” – William Burns, former ambassador to Russia and current CIA Director in the Biden admin.

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Burns wrote that in a memo to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in 2008 so it’s fourteen years out of date. What was true then may or may not be true now. Putin’s performance lately has been less than stellar to say the least. Underperformance to this degree does cause some soul-searching within the power group. Even if Putin admires Stalin he doesn’t have Stalin’s absolute control. If he falls it will be from the FSB.
KidHorn
KidHorn
1 year ago
Anyone in a position to depose Putin won’t be pushed into action because of this. This will have little to no effect inside Russia.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
1 year ago
Bond defaults won’t cause anyone to be deposed because internally in Russia nothing has changed. Their access to financial markets was already frozen and remains frozen along with their foreign currency.
The only thing this does is far in the future it will affect Russia’s ability to borrow *after* sanctions have been lifted. No one knows when that is (peace could happen tomorrow but sanctions could remain for years or decades if the West doesn’t like the agreement). By then Putin could already be dead and your punishing some new leader in Russia + Russian people who have nothing to do with that’s happening now.
Then consider all those who hold Russian bonds. They may suddenly be worthless. Are we going to bail out those bond holders at 100% since they didn’t do anything wrong?
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
It’s clear that Russia didn’t want the default, and has otherwise been a reliable servicer. They’ll be able to borrow.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
The only thing they did was make a bad investment and loaned to the wrong country. That has a cost. If they did a credit default swap then they may be covered. If not then that is how the cookie crumbles.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
They bet on a corrupt oligarchy. Stupid should hurt.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Yes, that corrupt oligarchy in Washington has really screwed over the bond holders by making the bond payments that Russia made in a timely fashion be not paid to the bond holders. Who will have anything to do with US issued bonds in future knowing that they can be screwed with at any time for political purposes.
prumbly
prumbly
1 year ago
Most Russians love Putin, although Western media will never admit it.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
Russian media is bastion of truth, comrade!
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  prumbly
The Germans loved Hitler even to the end.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

… according to Goebbles, anyhow…

RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
If anything, Clinton’s meddling in the 1996 Russian election, backfired.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Are you sure it is not economic? Western countries have chronic low to negative growth and high debt… What better distraction for the masses than a ‘controlled conflict’ with someone they’ve been told to hate?
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Excuse me, but isn’t this forced default something like this – I have a mortgage and a savings account with the same bank. When I try to make my mortgage payment from my savings account, the bank tells me that my savings account has been frozen, forcing me to default even though I have the funds to pay my bills.

So, why would I patronize this bank in the future?

JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Because the other banks are even worse?
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
How could any bank be worse than the one that steals all of your savings?
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
The next bank that’s even shakier than the first bank.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
The answer is that you don’t want to consider less shaky banks either. You will likely park your reserves in an asset that is not anyone’s liability.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
That’ll be your short-term move. Then you will look for a different banking system. In this case, it’s highly complicated, but no one will accept dollars they cannot use for very long. Bretton Woods was undermined in a big way when Nixon closed the gold window, but the dollar has been the substitute for 50 years because it has worked well enough. But for how long?

By analogy, I point to Darwin’s theory of evolution. It’s all to often collapsed into the stock phrase, survival of the fittest. That’s a fundamental error of understanding. Darwin’s theory says that a species that replaces itself will endure, and will thrive to the extent that it more than replaces itself, sustainably over time. If Darwin is reduced to a one-liner, it should be: survival of the fit, or better yet, survival of the adequate.

The post-Bretton dollar-denominated trading system has been adequate. This year’s events have shaken it to its roots. I am increasingly inclined to think that the dollar is on borrowed time. For how long is the issue, and the answer is above my pay grade. If I were China, OPEC, and the BRICs, I’d use some of those dollars to fund a deep inquiry into alternatives. Lots of tough questions revolving around the dynamics of reserve currencies.

The dollar system is supported by U.S. dominance of the sea lanes + the U.S. consumer being the de facto guarantor of employment within the rising non-Western economies. From the point of view of the BRICs: How to escape the dollar without wrecking our own economies? They shouldn’t spend a whole lot of time consulting the West about this. The U.S. and its allies are showing themselves to be economic imbeciles, so any alternative will have to come from the outside.

Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
You didn’t default to the bank. You defaulted on your bondholders who then tell all their friends that you couldn’t pay the interest. The bondholders as a group do not care why you defaulted, only that you defaulted and will avoid dealing with you in the future as a credit risk. As a bondholder default opens up legal possibilities seize some of your assets like your car for example.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
How will bond holders seize assets in Russia? If they connive with western governments to seize Russian assets overseas the what is to stop Russia returning the favour and seizing Western assets in Russia?
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
If you were forced to default because you burned down your neighbors house and got thrown in jail, you’ve become an unreliable borrower.
SAKMAN1
SAKMAN1
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Yeah, its just like that except your accounts were frozen because you are a terrorist and hit malls with missiles.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  SAKMAN1
Says who? The same propaganda outlets that sold us the Vietnam, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya etc., scams??!!
SAKMAN1
SAKMAN1
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I mean. . . give me more information. Did Russia not just annex Crimea? I mean, it seems like everyone agrees on it. Did a missile not hit a mall yesterday? It seemed like everyone agreed on that as well.
I’m fine to only review information that everyone agrees on assuming that when the lying begins I get to have more first hand data.
Hold yourself to the same standard though, lets hear new information that everyone agrees on.
effendi
effendi
1 year ago
Reply to  SAKMAN1
Even the Ukrainians have admitted that mall was not hit by a missile but by debris from a munitions dump next door that was hit by a Russian missile. Why anyone would have munitions stored in a residential suburb in wartime is something that needs an explanation (stupidity, incompetence or hiding behind women and children are the 3 possibilities).

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