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Biden to Continue Trump’s Chaotic Policy on China, Just More Politely

Biden to Continue Trump’s Tariffs on China

US trade representative Katherine Tai vows to Enforce Trump’s ‘Phase One’ Trade Deal with China.

  • U.S. Trade Representative Katherine Tai is set to deliver a speech Monday, outlining the Biden administration’s China trade strategy. She will be speaking at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
  • Washington must enforce the phase one trade deal with China, and will raise broader policy concerns with Beijing, Tai is expected to say.
  • “China made commitments intended to benefit certain American industries, including agriculture that we must enforce,” according to prepared remarks.
  • Tai is also expected to announce a targeted tariff exclusion process for firms to avoid punitive levies, and have “frank conversations” with Chinese counterparts in the coming days.

Phase One Deal 

In the Phase One trade deal, signed in January 2020, with much bravado, Beijing pledged to buy at least $200 billion more U.S. goods and services over 2020 and 2021, compared with 2017. 

Biden to Keep Trump’s Tariffs Intact

Phase One 2020 Outcome

A quick check of my calendar shows that today is October 4. It appears that it took the Biden administration 9 months to figure out Trump’s deal wasn’t working.

Of course, Trump said the deal was working. He also proclaimed “Trade wars are good and easy to win.” So I am sure that explains why this revelation is now such a shock.

 Chaotic and Ineffective 

“The administration officials took pains to contrast Biden’s approach to that of his predecessor, which they called chaotic and ineffective. Biden seeks to shore up U.S. supply lines and promote domestic manufacturing while enlisting U.S. allies in a campaign to press China to drop the subsidies that distort global markets, the officials said.”

Administration officials have discussed using Section 301 of a 1974 trade law to mobilize European and Asian allies for a WTO trade complaint over structural elements of the Chinese economy they say disadvantage its trading partners.

The above comments from the Washington Post

Polite and Ineffective vs Chaotic and Ineffective

In essence, Team Biden will continue Trump’s tariffs just more politely. 

Yeah, that’ll sure work especially when Germany is doing everything it can to keep its export machine alive and that includes China.

Note that China was Germany’s most important trading partner in 2020 for the fifth consecutive year.

Tariffs Cannot Fix Trade Imbalances

Tariffs will not and cannot fix trade imbalances. The source of all these problems is neither NAFTA nor China’s admission to the WTO.

NAFTA was actually very beneficial to the US while the latter complicated trade imbalances.

Prior to 1971, trade deficits were financed by an outflow of gold. If countries had deficit spending, gold flowed out. 

Nixon ended convertibility of gold in 1971 and that is the source of a whole slew of problems.

Global Consumers of Last Resort

The US is stuck with the reserve currency because we have the largest, most open capital markets in the world, the world’s largest bond market, and a far better business climate than the EU, China, or Japan.

To ensure the US remains the curse holder, the EU and Japan have negative rates, China does not float the Yuan but props up corrupt SOEs, and Germany punishes the rest of the EU.

Giant Sucking Sounds, Mexico, NAFTA, Global Trade, and Gold

Everyone wants to export to the US, and they do. 

Trump did not fix the problem and Biden won’t either. Neither understands the basic problem. 

The “absence of capital controls has made the United States the default adjustment for global capital imbalances,” said Michael Pettis. 

Gold was that capital control mechanism and now there are none. Trade agreements with China are not worth the toilet paper they are printed on.

How much longer this setup can continue before it blows up in a currency crisis, war with China, or some other major economic disruption remains a key mystery.

For discussion and many charts please see Giant Sucking Sounds, Mexico, NAFTA, Global Trade, and Gold

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Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago

My take is biden is trying work within the confines of policies set by the previous administration.  Just like the ending of the afghan war the papers were signed.  Trying to project consistency to the rule of law to other nations.   .    

StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
“Trying to project consistency to the rule of law to other nations.”
Showing the world that senile little him; can rob, steal and be just as much the idiot as Trumpo was!
The underlying constraints face by both clowns-in-chief, is that lobbyists for American companies are telling them that “we” can’t compete with China at anything anymore. Not even basic freedoms, as sad as that sounds. So, the only way to keep money flowing to the FIRE morons who have, through no effort nor insight of their own, been handed ownership to said companies by The Fed, is to come up with ever more far fetched and harebrained excuses for why they somehow shouldn’t have to compete. Transferring the cost of their own incompetence and lack of competitiveness to American consumers instead.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
one more day on the road
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
this blog is about news.  the news has no bearing on reality.  no point discussing these things.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Donald Trump Built a National Debt So Big (Even Before the Pandemic) That It’ll Weigh Down the Economy for Years

The “King of Debt” promised to reduce the national debt — then his tax cuts made it surge. Add in the pandemic, and he oversaw the third-biggest deficit increase of any president.

Christoball
Christoball
4 years ago
Debt is our economic fabric. It will continue to grow no matter who is in charge. All money is borrowed into existence, If all debts were paid off there would not be any money left.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Every recent president has run enormous deficits. Biden is on track to greatly surpass Trump. I don’t blame Biden or Trump. It’s taken decades of poor management to get to where we are. And not just in the US.
amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Usually you make some sense….. To blame Debit on Trump is pretty lame.  
Why not blame on Congress and other Politicians that have been in office for almost 50 years (like our current Prez and others) I think they had many chances to do the right thing and look where we are!
You can see where our leadership is taking us right now they will match Trump’s debit in one year. But no surprise JB was been running it up for almost 50 years!
1972 JB elected to Senate  National Debit.      427,260,460,940.     0.427 Trillion
2021  JB Prez.                       National Debit. 28,840,017,500,999.     28.84 Trillion
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Spending made the national debt surge. No spending, no debt. Any casual observer can see that.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Can someone please explain how the Chinese became prosperous by subsidizing exports?
Could America become richer by subsidizing exports? They can at least print the dollars to do so!
How can the Chinese subsidize exports for decades and not go broke?
What is the attraction for Americans to buy stuff if they are being cheated?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Not all Chinese became prosperous by subsidizing exports and America already subsidizes some exports which makes some Americans prosperous.
In other words the Chinese government and their favored friends have become prosperous but the average citizen there is paying for their prosperity by having a lowered standard of living (poor wages, polluted environment etc) which equals lowered consumption than what they could otherwise have.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
exactly
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
That’s always true in general, that the State benefits select cronies at the expense of others.
Notwithstanding, it’s not true that most Chinese have been treading water the last 40 years (as has the American middle class).
The Chinese in general have seen a tremendous growth in material prosperity (&GDP) which cannot have bene subsidized by penniless rice farmers for whom a fish in their bowl of rice was a feast day: I don’t buy the unfair competition, unless you consider global wage and regulations arbitrage as unfair. But that is not a subsidy in any normal sense of the word.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Webej
“Could America become richer by subsidizing exports? “
It’s difficult because we are far and aways the largest consumer nation. The reason China and Germany and other nations on the other side of the trade deficits can do that is that they have us for customers. For China, Europe is also a large consumer market…..but in general there are no great markets for us to sell to outside our own country. We COULD get richer, perhaps, by not buying goods subsidized by other governments and instead making and marketing them here, going forward.
In certain niche markets we can compete.
“How can the Chinese subsidize exports for decades and not go broke?”
There are definitely limits to how long they can keep doing it. They have the advantage of being a command economy, so they can carry out heavy financial repression of their people at will, to make the math work.
“What is the attraction for Americans to buy stuff if they are being cheated?”
Americans shop price first and everything else is irrelevant. We’ve seen that forever.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Chris Hedges on NAFTA and the Clinton DONORcrat Party:

“The liberal class and the Democratic Party leadership have failed, even after their defeat in the 2016 presidential election, to understand that they, along with the traditional Republican elites, have squandered their credibility. No one believes them. And no one should.

They squandered their credibility by promising that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) would, as claimed by President Bill Clinton, create 200,000 new, well-paying jobs per year; instead, several million jobs were lost. They squandered it by allowing corporations to move production overseas and hire foreign workers at daily wages that did not equal what a U.S. unionized worker made in an hour, a situation that obliterated the bargaining power of the American working class. They squandered it by allowing corporations to use the threat of “offshoring” production to destroy unions, suppress wages, extract draconian concessions and push millions of workers into the temp and gig economies, where there are no benefits or job security and pay is 60% or less of what a full-time employee in the regular economy receives.

[plus 19 more ways they squandered their credibility by supporting NAFTA]  ….  “
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“Prior to 1971, trade deficits were financed by an outflow of gold. If countries had deficit spending, gold flowed out.”
Then push came to shove and the peg to gold, broke.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
It was a accounting transaction. The gold stayed put in the FED’s vaults.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
I see a lot of electronic accounting transactions very soon in the Fed and Treasury’s future. Like this week. 
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
It doesn’t matter where the gold is physically sitting. Foreign countries have stored their gold in the U.S. It matters that the dollar peg to gold was broken, because push came to shove, as it always eventually does.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Ya orange man triggered a cascading effect of International sanctions/tariffs . China shoot itself in the foot and exposed its Achilles heel  when it sanctioned Aussie high  quality coal .
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Looks to me like Xi was angling for war with the US once Trump got into office. The policies on both sides had changed so much after Xi and Trump entered office where we are now was inevitable. Not 100% of what Trump did was wrong but he was a poor negotiator. As with most things Trump left, Biden is left with a mess to clean up.  Maybe Covid was an accident but its turned out to be useful for China. I don’t think the takeover of Taiwan will an accident though. And there isn’t much the US can do about it. I fully expect territorial expansion by China and Russia in the coming year not because of Biden but because of the mess that Trump left.  Trump basically came to the global geopolitical table and told autocrats and communists they could have whatever they wanted and got nothing for the US. 
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
I fully support the use of tactical nukes against China’s military should they attempt territorial expansion.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Yeah, sure if they wanted to invade California. I am sure, that’s what you mean.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
I mean Taiwan, Korea, Japan and anywhere else in SE Asia.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I doubt that will be necessary.  The reason China gets by with all these sorties is that none of them ever come that close to Taiwan, they just fly over the edge of the declared “defense zone” which is extended many miles into the South China Sea, which is more or less just bluffing. George Friedman says a successful invasion of Taiwan by the Chinese would be impossible, as the supply lines would be quickly wiped out by the US Navy.
Make no mistake. If the PRC wants to try to take Taiwan, the US military WILL defend it. It’s strategically very important.
At the moment we have the USS Ronald Reagan with its 90 fixed wing aircraft aboard and attack helicopters too., accompanied by 6 destroyers and several other support vessels in the South China Sea, and I’m sure we have nuclear subs there too. We have ten other giant carriers we could deploy if need be. China’s Navy has lots of ships, but nothing that could come close to confronting the US in an open war.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

There is much more than that in the Western Pacific now. We
have a large-scale exercise going on with our allies so presently in the
Western Pacific we have two US carrier groups plus a UK carrier group built
around the UK’s new HMS Queen Elizabeth along with large Japanese ships and
ships from Canada, New Zealand and the Netherlands. The group is off the coast
from Okinawa now.  

 

https://news.usni.org/2021/10/04/u-s-u-k-aircraft-carriers-drill-with-japanese-big-deck-warship-in-the-western-pacific

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Given your insight into matters of state, I’m thinking you must work for the US Department of State, to wit: “I don’t think the takeover of Taiwan will an accident though. And there isn’t much the US can do about it.”
When Taiwan falls, and the USA does nothing, the lack of response will likely bring North Korea into South Korea. Japan will collapse without tthe USA. At that point the USA will no longer have ANY allies. However, it will always be Trump’s fault.
I do agree that Biden has done a great job cleaning up the immigration mess on the southern border. It is surely as awesome as the retreat from Afghanistan and executing his plan for Covid.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The US no longer has the will to get into a shooting war with any other nuclear superpower. Picking on small countries in the middle east or a banana republic isn’t like picking on China or Russia. And they know it.   Trump did a major reset on foreign policy whether you agree with it or not. I agreed with some of it but not his bombastic approach.  The Chinese or Russians are happy on one side that Trump let them loose but also wanted him out now that they’ve been let loose and didn’t want his antics. So with 4 years of Trump leaving a mess for the incoming administration to deal with they got the best of both worlds. 
World War  II could have easily gone another way with the Nazis owning half of America and the Japanese owning the other half. America or Europe’s will was not truly tested from a technological standpoint. This time it is different because the difference in technological prowess is not that great due to the forces of globalization. 
Keep blaming Biden for a problem on the border that started in the 1970s. Keep blaming him for a war that started in the 1990s.  
I always kept saying that one would be crazy to run for President of the US for actually the risk of winning. We saw that with Trump who wasn’t ready and never expected to win. We see something different with Biden because the problems that were tractable in 2016 are no longer tractable in 2021. In the end Trump won because he left a mess that no one, not even him, can fix. 
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
“World War  II could have easily gone another way with the Nazis owning
half of America and the Japanese owning the other half. America or
Europe’s will was not truly tested from a technological standpoint.”
I think you’ve been playing too much Axis and Allies.
The idea that Germany could have occupied all of Europe and somehow half of America is absurd. The same goes for Japan to occupy the other side of America and presumably all of S/E Asia. They just didn’t have the population (70 million for Japan and 80 million for Germany and for reference the USA alone had 140 million never mind all the other countries)  to do it. The hope for both Axis countries was always to annex some territory (Germany wanted Eastern Europe and Japan wanted Manchuria and a bunch of Pacific Islands like Singapore) and then obtain peace. That was also never going to be possible.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
You didn’t read it right. I said it wasn’t possible at the time WW2 happen. The US and Europe no longer have that level of technological superiority so the next war (or the current one if you like), may not turn out so great for the US. In fact I would argue that Russia and China are better at practicing asymmetric warfare in 2021 than any other countries in the world. The US is still trying to figure out which country (likely Russia or China) created a hypersonic jet faster than anything known.  
FWIW China now has caused multiple countries in Asia and South America to go into debt in exchange for control of their ports by Chinese military. If any of these countries cannot make a debt payment, the agreements signed state China will be handed more land in exchange for forgiveness of debt payment. China has deliberately done this to multiple countries around the world who are so far in debt, they will eventually forced to hand over territory to China without a shot being fired. 
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
He
was probably referencing the TV series based of Philip K. Dick’s book “Man
In The High Castle” which appeared on TV a few years ago where Germany on Japan won WW II.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
When you say Russia or China will expand, what exactly are you thinking of?
Will China invade Uttar Pradesh, or some skirmish about some Himalayan border zone where there have never been human settlements?
Taiwan has always been part of China when it wasn’t occupied by Japan. Kind of like South Carolina and the Yankees.
Try their hand at running bordering Afghanistan? By invading?
Or do you think they will invade Korea or Japan? Why? What is your evidence.
What would Russia invade? Japan? The DonBas (where everybody speaks Russian and half are citizens of Russia)?
How about the Ukraine, so Moscow can have 3× as many headaches with an absolute basket case of a country which is on the verge of falling apart all by itself?
Maybe Finland? How about Georgia USA b/c of an error in the coordinates of which Georgia?
Tactical nukes?
Has there ever been a real war where parties didn’t escalate to everything we’ve got?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Do your own research. I’ve done enough to know that China isn’t messing around. They will of course try to take over without a shot being fired. They have it as part of their agreements with several countries who turned to them for money because they were distressed. The agreements signed actually have stipulations in them on what happens when a country misses a debt payment. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Since McConnell wants the Dems to raise the debt ceiling alone, the Dems should pass it with the stipulation that there is no debt ceiling ever again and give authority to Federal reserve to monetize any and all debts. 
kiers
kiers
4 years ago
You know why Joe Biden has adopted the presidential communications demeanor of the “contrite” Marlboro man? 
He’s contrite to his base b/c he can evade giving them a damn thing. He’s contrite to the Maga hats “for stealing their election” posing as one of them.  The contrite Marlboro Man.   
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Probably for the best since everything the current administration has done has been a disaster.
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
4 years ago
China isn’t paying Trump’s tariffs. Tarrifs are taxes Americans are paying…

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungalow Bill
However, if the goods are produced locally, or purchased from non-tariffed countries, the tariffs/taxes go away, and more wealth remains in the country.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“Gold was that capital control mechanism and now there are none.”
Really?
Sure sure back then the “official exchange rate” was $35 to the ounce and kept a lid on things.  But that was then.  This is now.  What is “now”?  All lines in the sand are drawn at low tide.  The (floating) “official exchange rate” would be what ever the heck Congress wants to keep spending unchecked.  $5000 to the ounce?  $10,000 to the ounce?
Of course, exactly what any goldbug wants.  Not gonna happen.  Ever.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Agree.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Gold went from $35 to $1,768 (today’s price). That  is an increase of 50 times. From $1,768 to $5,000 is 2.8 times. Never? Seriously?
Bitcoin went from 30cents in 2011 to $47,000? Not gonna happen, right?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
You are missing the point.  Back then the rate was fixed (to keep things in check).  To go to a gold standard now would mean rate has to be fixed again (or useless).
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago

Biden’s team know that Trump’s policies toward China,
although having some flaws, is the only one that can keep the US ahead in key
industries and reindustrialized in others that former administrations who erroneously
believed that “free trade” would solve all international and internal problems
had given away to China for nothing in return. I for one am happy to see some
sanity in our political institutions which rightly sent that idea to the dust
bin of history.

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Trade deficits are fungible.
Annual trade deficit of Goods and Services (all countries)
Obama’s last 4
2013 … $447 billion
2014 … $484 billion
2015 … $491 billion
2016 … $481 billion
Trump’s 4
2017 … $513 billion
2018 … $581 billion
2019 … $576 billion
2020 … $677 billion
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
It’s not the absolute numbers that are important but what are the numbers in strategic industries. What can you do without in a war and what you can’t do without in one is the determining factor. Look into the numbers and see which industries are being protected and which ones are being reshored. How much of that is due to NAFTA, our direct neighbors, and how much is due to our adversaries over the ocean? The rest is just noise.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
“Look into the numbers and see what industries are being protected and which ones are being reshored.”
Do you have a handle on any of this (I don’t)? … but on the face of those numbers doesn’t look like much occurring.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
There is a lot of government and defense documentation on it. You don’t have to go much further than that. With them you get the facts and much less spin. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
You’re on a roll today. Lots of great comments. Peter Zeihan called this one accurately well before Biden took office. The US no longer has a reason to to keep giving al our intellectual property to China for free, and going forward we benefit from restoring of strategic industries. It will take some time, but we’re headed there.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
 Thanks
Eddie. Sometimes I get it right, sometimes not. I have been immersed in defense
matters for decades. Maybe I picked up a few things. NAFTA is very good for all
of North America. Vital industries are being reshored or shored with strong allies.
We are no longer asleep as we were before. It doesn’t matter who takes the
credit as long as it gets done.

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