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Biden Wants to Fix a $7 Trillion Tax Evasion Problem With a Brain Trust

Biden Seeks a Robust Attack on the Tax Gap

The US Treasury Department released a report today on the Case for a Robust Attack on the Tax Gap

A well-functioning tax system requires that everyone pays the taxes they owe. Today, the “tax gap”—the difference between taxes that are owed and collected—totals around $600 billion annually and will mean approximately $7 trillion of lost tax revenue over the next decade

Today’s tax code contains two sets of rules: one for regular wage and salary workers who report virtually all the income they earn; and another for wealthy taxpayers, who are often able to avoid a large share of the taxes they owe.

Estimates from academic researchers suggest that more than $160 billion lost annually is from taxes that top 1 percent choose not to pay.

The Administration’s proposals call for significantly increasing the IRS budget, specifically $80 billion of investment over the coming ten years in enforcement, IT, and taxpayer services generating an estimated $320 billion in additional tax collections over the next ten years.

For the IRS to appropriately enforce the tax laws against high earners and large corporations, it needs funding to hire and train revenue agents who can decipher their thousands of pages of sophisticated tax filings. 

It also needs access to information about opaque income streams—like proprietorship and partnership income—that accrue disproportionately to high-earners.

Changes to the third-party information reports are estimated to generate $460 billion over a decade.

Once the overhaul of the IRS is complete, these proposals combined will generate even more revenue: an estimated $1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue, just from improved collection of the taxes that are already due.

Projected Revenue and Expenses 

  • $163 billion the taxes that top 1 percent choose not to pay annually.
  • $320 billion in additional tax collections over the next ten years from more IRS agents ($32 billion annually)
  • $460 billion over a decade with changes to third-party information ($46 billion annually)
  • $80 billion of investment over the coming ten years in enforcement (minus $8 billion annually).
  • An estimated $1.6 trillion in additional tax revenue, just from improved collection of the taxes that are already due. This is “just because” unexplained double counting.

Annual Total As Presented

$163 Billion + $32 Billion + $46 Billion – $8 Billion = $233 Billion

Even if you fator in an extra “just because” $1.6 trillion over a decade (an additional $160 billion annually) that total is still only $393 billion annually. 

Annual Magic Total 

$163 Billion + $32 Billion + $46 Billion – $8 Billion ≈ $600 Billion

10-Year Magic Total 

$233 * 10 ≈ $7 Trillion

Those are the totals presented. I read the report multiple times to see what was missing and concluded: I am missing the Magic Brain Trust.

Unfortunately, I am serious.

Tax Evasion ‘Brain Trust’ Magic

Please consider a Millennial Economist Helps Power a Tax Evasion ‘Brain Trust’

Shrinking the $7 trillion so-called tax gap has long been an aspiration for policymakers and scholars, but it is taking on new urgency as the Biden administration looks to win bipartisan support for its infrastructure proposal. 

The number crunching behind this work is taking place at the Treasury Department, where Secretary Janet L. Yellen has created a team to tackle the issue and staffed the agency with economists and others who have spent years studying how the government can hunt down money that it is owed but fails to collect. 

The group, known internally as the “compliance brain trust,” includes four members of Treasury’s career staff along with Kimberly A. Clausing, deputy assistant secretary for tax analysis, and Natasha Sarin, a 32-year-old Harvard-trained economist who has written extensively on closing the gap.

“The proposal, which is sold under the guise of trying to close the tax gap, is very concerning and pulls almost all taxpayers into a surveillance dragnet,” Senator Mike Crapo of Idaho, the top Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, told Ms. Yellen at a hearing this week. “My concerns are amplified by the egregious apparent leak of private taxpayer information out of the I.R.S.”

Five former Treasury secretaries — Mr. Summers, Timothy F. Geithner, Jacob J. Lew, Henry M. Paulson Jr. and Robert E. Rubin — wrote in a New York Times opinion essay this month that the Treasury Department’s revenue projections were modest and pointed to another estimate that said the I.R.S. could recover $1.6 trillion over a decade.

More Magic Math 

Clearly these five former Treasury Secretaries noted above cannot do basic math. I can help.

$1.6 Trillion ≈ $7 Trillion

More Math Lessons Needed

The New York Times reported earlier today the Top 1 Percent are Evading $163 Billion a Year in Taxes, the Treasury finds.

The wealthiest 1 percent of Americans are the nation’s most egregious tax evaders, failing to pay as much as $163 billion in owed taxes per year, according to a Treasury Department report released on Wednesday.

The analysis comes as the Biden administration pushes lawmakers to embrace its ambitious proposal to beef up the Internal Revenue Service to narrow the “tax gap,” which it estimates amounts to $7 trillion in unpaid taxes over a decade.

Democrats are counting on raising money by collecting more unpaid taxes to help pay for the $3.5 trillion spending package they are drafting

The Treasury Department estimates that its tax gap proposals could raise $700 billion over a decade.

What’s with these people? Somehow we are down to $700 billion over a decade.

Checking in With the CBO 

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reports on the Effects of Increased Funding for the IRS.

CBO estimates that portions of the Administration’s proposal to increase funding for the IRS by $80 billion over the 2022–2031 period would increase revenues by approximately $200 billion over those 10 years. That estimate does not include changes in revenues resulting from portions of the proposal that involve new information-reporting requirements and other changes to the tax code; those changes are estimated by the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT).

CBO’s estimate of revenues is based on the IRS’s projected returns on investment (ROIs) for spending on new enforcement initiatives. The IRS estimates those ROIs by calculating the expected revenues that would be raised from taxes, interest, and penalties as a result of the new initiatives and dividing them by their additional cost. 

CBO Math 

The CBO assumes the total revenue increase is a mere $120 billion spread over 10 years.

Mercy!

Competing Projections

  • Brain Trust Proposal: ≈ $7 Trillion
  • Brain Trust Actual Numbers Totaled: $2.33 Trillion
  • Five Former Treasury Secretaries: $1.6 Trillion
  • New York Times Estimate of the Report: $700 Billion
  • CBO Estimate: $120 Billion

What’s Going On?

In a nutshell, Biden needs to come up with numbers that will allow him to spend $3.5 Trillion.

To make it all work, the Magic Brain Trust concludes Biden’s plan will bring in $7 trillion. 

$7 Trillion Farce

The $7 trillion projection is a farce especially given the administration can only explain $2.33 trillion of it. 

I suspect the answer is somewhere between the CBO’s estimate of $120 billion and the $1.6 trillion estimate of five former treasury secretaries. 

Practical Standpoint

From a practical standpoint, taxes will rise to make up the difference or deficits will be far bigger than the Biden administration projects.

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Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
It would be a whole lot simpler to tax businesses and estates only. Don’t burden individuals with reporting personal incomes.
CASCO
CASCO
4 years ago
Wikipedia defines MISH : the bag of warm dog feces carried by responsible pet owners, not to be confused with person attempting sophomoric journalism.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
Reply to  CASCO
That’s horrible.
TCW
TCW
4 years ago

Most people don’t owe federal income taxes because they are not employees or a
trade or a business.

26 USC § 3401(c) Employee – For purposes of this chapter, the term
“employee” includes an officer, employee, or elected official of the United
States, a State, or any political subdivision thereof, or the District of
Columbia, or any agency or instrumentality of any one or more of the foregoing.
The term “employee” also includes an officer of a corporation.

26 USC § 7701) (26) Trade or business – The term ”trade or business”
includes the performance of the functions of a public office.

26 USC §7701(c):(c) Includes and including – The terms “includes” and
“including” when used in a definition contained in this title shall not be
deemed to exclude other things otherwise within the meaning of the term
defined.

Under this rule, the term “includes” provides for what courts have described
as a “calculated indefiniteness”. This is the expand-ability of the meaning of
a statutory term to things not listed in the definition (indefiniteness), but to only things of the same character as those listed(calculated).

IE, if you’re flipping burgers, your job doesn’t have the same character as
those listed in the definition of employee, therefore you are not an employee.  Also,
if you own a facility not dealing in government contracts (Joe’s Burgers), or
if you offer a service (dentist) you don’t owe the excise taxes since the
character of your job is not the functions of a public office.

A W-2 is an affidavit stating you have received a benefit from
the government, whereas most folks should be issued a 1099 MISC…where the IRS
instructions state ‘personal payments are not re-portable.’   If you receive a W-2 and do not work for the
government/contractor, show these definitions to your human resources/lawyer and ask to
receive a 1099 MISC rather than a W-2.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TCW
You need to add a disclaimer….”not professional tax advice” lol.
Good luck on taking this legal position at your IRS audit.
TCW
TCW
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I’m just showing folks what exists in the statues and how it was obfuscated to intentionally fool them.  I think what needs to happen to change things is a big company needs to get sued for making false testimony against their workers.  When the workers win and then receive 1009 MISC they won’t have any problem with the IRS.  Other companies can then follow suit. 
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Tax property. Nothing else.
Zero evasion, zero spying, darned near zero cost of neither enforcement nor compliance. Cheap, simple, equitable, just, efficient… etc., etc…
Of course making sense is exactly what does not make sense, to those for the goal is robbing and harassing productive people, in order to hand wealth and power-to-harass to connected leeches; rather than to raise revenue even remotely efficiently, justly and equitably. And, just as ofcoursely, nothing whatsoever makes sense, to those dumb and indoctrinated to blindly listen to the ones above….
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Just like Biden’s former boss was going to “solve the problem” of too little “equality”, and too high bonuses on Wall Street. By inviting a “brain trust” of Wall Street executive “experts” to the White House to help “form policy.” And how the poor dimbulb was then as surprised as ever that, despite all this great policy, by those “smart” Wall Street executive “experts”, it turned out the ones who ended up making more, was Wall Street executives. And what ended up even worse, was equality. Now who could have thought!
strataland
strataland
4 years ago
Ask anyone you meet if they think the US should simplify the federal tax code. Almost everyone, regardless of party affiliation, except CPAs, will say yes. This is further confirmation that Congress does not do the work of the people. They are beholden to their donors who rely on exploiting the loop holes.  
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
I propose that the federal government gives my company the right to collect taxes. I would guarantee the government a certain amount of revenue and they would guarantee me a free hand to collect the taxes. It’s a win-win situation and therefore nobody can be against it. It’s public-private cooperation and as everyone knows private companies are very good at collecting money. I will promise to hire muscle-bound minorities and LGBT+ persons and give a piece of the action to the party who backs my idea.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Sounds an awful lot like the way the Romans did it, in the years leading up to the final collapse.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
The Romans had some great ideas. I am thinking of another one the Romans had to make spectator sports really exciting.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I had to check and see what the Bard had to say on taxes. I fully expected it was he who coined “Nothing is certain in life but death and taxes.” but it turns out that honor apparently goes to Daniel Defoe, who wrote something similar well before Benjamin Franklin, who also said it and who is often given the credit.
Turns out that Shakespeare didn’t say all that much on the subject, but what I found out that I didn’t know……..is that  Shakespeare was himself a ruthless capitalist pig who speculated in grain, and he is accused (at least) of having been a tax evader. Tut, tut.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
“Care for us! True, indeed! They ne’er cared for us yet: suffer us to famish, and their storehouses crammed with grain; make edicts for usury, to support usurers; repeal daily any wholesome act established against the rich, and provide more piercing statutes daily to chain up and restrain the poor. If the wars eat us not up, they will; and there’s all the love they bear us.”
― William Shakespeare,  Coriolanus
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Does anyone really believe anymore when governments say they are going to tax the very wealthly and make them pay their share? It’s an overused cliché and when said everyone laughs because they know it’s just wind.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“Today’s tax code contains two sets of rules: one for regular wage and
salary workers who report virtually all the income they earn; and
another for wealthy taxpayers, who are often able to avoid a large share
of the taxes they owe.”
Sounds like the government: two sets of rules- one for those inside the government  and another for those outside the government.
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
The $7T is the total they could get if everyone pays 100% of the taxes they owe under current law.  They never say they can get that much.  Reading comprehension.
amigator
amigator
4 years ago
Good stuff again! Not sure how you do it but always finding interesting topics.  And it’s nice to read through several and not one mention of COVID.  Maybe just seeing packed football stadiums has opened some eyes.
Anyway there is no use in hiring more agents to collect taxes until the Government gets control of its spending. Think he is going at it backwards… Oh sh_ _ I forget he is a politician. Par for the course. Go get’em JB!
Within the next few stimulus packages we will begin to wonder why we are paying any taxes at all?  Just print it!
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
The math does work out. I have brains. Trust me.
If you insert the proper adjustment factor for future inflation, it all adds up.
Webej
Webej
4 years ago
Forget about the tax numbers.
Massive snitching, reporting requirements, and enforcement powers will give the agency with the least accountability more authoritarian power over you, wealthy or not. The IRS is a formidable foe, you are better off in the court system or appealing a Twitter ban. People hated by the IRS never get justice.
kiers
kiers
4 years ago
They’ll just hit the small guys…..believe me….this is Murica!
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  kiers
They’ll also hit the big guys who contributed to the wrong party.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Biden is looking for offsets to the 3.5 trillion  spendapalooza , maybe to appease Manchin.  The changes to third party reporting as touted by this endeavor is particularly troublesome .    Any bills passed henceforth will be laden with legislation  that transfer your rights to the federal government . Why ? Be cause the government  “knows” how take care of you equitably. partial /s 
njbr
njbr
4 years ago
Meanwhile at the Ivermectin brain trust…
Ivermectin causes sterilization in 85 percent of men, study finds…
….EL PASO, Texas (KTSM) — The effects of Ivermectin therapy on human males can have an effect on men’s reproductive health.

Researchers at three universities in Nigeria studied the effects of Ivermectin, which is used to treat river blindness and other medical conditions in humans, on men’s sperm counts. According to their https://www.scholarsresearchlibrary.com/articles/effects-of-ivermectin-therapy-on-the-sperm-functions-of-nigerian-onchocerciasis-patients.pdf, 85 percent of men who take Ivermectin become sterilized.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Sounds like a globalist conspiracy to control the birth rate. Too bad it doesn’t work for Nigerian women, who have 5.39 live births, on average.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Joe Rogan and Kirsty Allie used Ivermectin to treat Covid and Joe Rogan has not gone sterile as a result. Neither have others who have treated Covid with Ivermectin, as they are using it only during the time they are sick from Covid.
Merck and Pfizer are coming out with new Covid drugs that are likely based on Ivermectin. The new Pfizer pill is anti- protease, which is how Ivermectin works. Big Pharma is attacking Ivermectin, to sell you a much more expensive pill that will do the same thing as Ivermectin.
By the way, look at the VAERS adverse response list for Covaxxines. I will take Ivermectin long before i would even think about taking any of those Covaxxines.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  njbr
The article was published in 2011. And in 2015 ivermectin won a noble prize. I’ll file this along with the stories about rural Oklahoma hospitals being overrun with gun shot victims and horse paste eaters.
Some people will believe anything if it fits their political opinion.
SHOfan
SHOfan
4 years ago
Gov’t always fails to make the ultra-wealthy pay more.  If by chance they do, it will be temporary until new tax exemptions are passed for them.
Claiming they need more agents to decipher the multi-thousand page tax filings is a phony argument.  
The rich hide their income in all that  complexity.  
The real solution is: Simplify the tax code.  It would collect more revenue with the same agents. 
But practical solutions are never offered because; gov’t is, and always has been, by the elite, for the elite. 
Remember Leona Helmsley’s famous quote:  “We don’t pay taxes, the little people pay taxes.”
She wasn’t kidding.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  SHOfan
You know she had a SD trust the courts were never able to break. She left $12M for the care of her dog….but the courts did reduce that to $2M..no wonder the poor dog only lived to age 12….probably starved to death.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
OT….the SBA apparently opened their portal yesterday for small businesses that received a first EIDL last year to re-apply. This has been expected…saw it predicted in a few article last week. We got the email.
For me personally, they put a cap of $500K as the limit for which we could apply. I expect the actual line of credit to be less. This is another 30 year, 3.75% loan, without much documentation required to apply.
The SBA is running very poorly these days imho…..we were promised a 15K EIDL grant last spring (2021) ….but when we applied we only got $5K…and we still keep getting emails asking us to apply for the grant…..but there is a portal… and you can only apply once…
If you call to see why you only got a portion of what was promised, nobody on the phone has a clue. None whatsoever.  Their screen says it’s in process….which is obviously BS.
PostCambrian
PostCambrian
4 years ago
I am all for more IRS enforcement capabilities. I think that the goal should be a strict audit every ten years of everyone with either $1,000,000 income or deductions. That would require many more compliance officers. I am not for using made up numbers to justify higher spending. If the spending is worthwhile (less likely) I would rather just see an honest admission that the deficit will increase than fake numbers.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
The real way to actually collect all the taxes that are due…is to (a) eliminate cash….and (b) to track everybody’s money using blockchain.
If Yellen has been “studying” how to collect more tax, this has to the the real takeaway. There’s no way she or anybody else couldn’t see that it’s the perfect way to achieve full financial repression….100% surveillance of all money changing hands, and checked for weirdness by AI.
But is it politically palatable?  I’d say no, for now…but in a few years maybe yes.
kiers
kiers
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
stop with the Blockchain nonsense! Just stop!
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  kiers
I’m tellin’ you. It’s coming. And not just here. Call it sovereign crypto if you prefer. It’s simply a matter of time.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

Which explains the worldwide surge or more likely desperation
to acquire real estate assets since soon money-laundering will get much
more difficult.

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
“soon money-laundering will get much more difficult.”
Unless maybe you’re a major bank. They might find work-arounds.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
It’s getting harder and harder because electronic spooping is increadibly good now. You can find where the money is now and since money is just electrons you can imagine how easy it is to erase it as if it never existed hence the stampead into real assets. Real estate has been a favorite since it’s everywhere and can absorb a lot of money. Now  with the huge amounts going into RE the market can no longer absorb it without causing prices to disconnect from reality. It’s just money that has been sitting in untaxed or in hidden places now coming out looking for hard assets to buy which explains why they pay ridiculous prices. Price is not the important point for them. Getting their electronic money into tanible assets is. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Washington state is trying to enact a 7% state-level capital gains tax (on capital gains over $250K) .
I’d look for more cash-strapped states to follow suit.
This will of course drive out the high net worth individuals.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
One thing to remember is that Gen Xer’s will start hitting retirement age in just over 5 years. I just wonder how many of them will choose early retirement. The age 62 bird-in-the-hand approach math works out well for most working stiffs, actually. Especially if they have a 401(K) or some kind of pension. I’d guess with having been told for their entire working lives that SS was going to fall short in the 2030’s, many of them will opt to take the early out.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Everywhere I go these days I run into people who are going ex-pat. I bought a boat a few months back from a small business man who was selling off because he’d built a house in Costa Rica. Yesterday I said goodbye to a patient of 25 year who is moving to Mexico ….not a rich guy either, a retired cop.
Everybody is trying to cut their expenses in retirement. Most people believe inflation here is going to be bad, and they’re looking fo a way to hedge that somehow…whether moving out of the country actually will accomplish that is another story.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Congrats on finally getting the sailboat. I remember you were looking at one here near me in Florida at one point.
As a 1st year Gen-Xer, I’m torn on early retirement. I can easily afford it but I’m not sure exactly what I’d want to do with my time once I am retired. My father took early retirement by selling his business at age 59 and struggled for a few years with finding a reason to get up in the morning (despite still working 2 days a week as part of the business transition). I don’t want to repeat that for myself so at least a few years before I retire I need a solid plan of what I want to do with my time.
I’d be nervous about moving full time as an ex-Pat to central/south America. Especially if I didn’t speak fluent Spanish because there are definitely some pitfalls to worry about in terms of crime/corruption etc when you stick out like a sore thumb as an obvious foreigner.  There are still quite a few cheap places to move to in the middle of America if you want a cheap lifestyle and don’t mind some winter.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I still haven’t gotten the big boat….I decided to try to buy a property where I could potentially park it first…and I’m still working out the finances n that one. I have a couple of potential building lots I found and I hope to get one fairly soon. The idea is to pay for the boat with a nice stilt house I can rent out  for short-term rentals to fishermen.. We’ll see.
The new boat is just a little Victoria 18 I got because the prior owner was practically  giving it away…and it’s a good boat for a shallow lake like LBJ…..so now I have two sailboats at least temporarily…to go with my two power boats. I am boat poor already…..but no big ticket boats. Just the Donzi Classic 18, the old Master Craft ski boat, the Victoria, and the old Rhodes 19….which I sort of promised the missus I’d get rid of if the Victoria is superior. We’ll see about that too.  🙂
I looked at going the ex-pat route long ago and decided it wasn’t for me….I’ll probably just flip the house in town and build on my rural place where taxes are still low…..if and when I retire….which is not for a while….6-7 year maybe, Age is a state of mind, not a medical condition requiring bed rest.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
My father retired at 62, played golf for two years and got bored out of his mind so he started up a company and worked happily at it till he was 89. Some peole are like that. I retired early but I find lots of things to do to spend my time without starting a company.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I have the best job I’m ever likely to have, and once I quit it would be very hard to go back….and so I’m in no particular hurry. Most days at least one of my patients begs me to never retire…..which helps keep me motivated. It’s nice to be appreciated.
And in spite of never wanting to be defined by my job…after all these years I find that it’s happened in spite of me….much more than I once thought it could. Not sure if that’s a good thing, but it is what it is. lol.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I retired because after 2008 it wasn’t fun anymore so I decided it was time to move on to other more enjoyable things.
oldman45
oldman45
4 years ago
I think it is time to reconsider The Fair Tax.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
My best guess it that $80B spent on enforcement will produce at least $50B in increased collections…..mostly from small business and high income professionals….and not much at all from corporations. jmho.
What’s that sound?
I think I hear retirement calling.

whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Yes, not much at all from corporations.   Why?   Because the corporations OWN the government!!

But then corporations are people, and money is speech.   So there’s nothing we can do about that, eh?!  😉

Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
The Treasury should just EFT the money out of tax cheats. They do it to lesser tax cheats all the time. 
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
Of course the math doesn’t ‘work’, budgetary math never works.  Now that that unpleasantness is behind us, let’s focus on that 3.5 tril in spending that will save the U.S.!
–the Treasury
Department’s revenue projections were modest and pointed to another
estimate that said the I.R.S. could recover $1.6 trillion over a decade
.
Recover is an interesting word choice, implying that the IRS lost it in the first place.  Back in the old days they just collected taxes.
Sebmurray
Sebmurray
4 years ago
It shouldn’t be a surprise that a woke administration can’t do math. After all, math is racist don’t you know! 
kiers
kiers
4 years ago
Reply to  Sebmurray
….sort of like the Federal Reserve humming and hawwing about what “full employment” really means till they raise rates?  Everyone’s doing it.  Red and Blue Right and Left.  It’s a swamp.  When you make it partisan you lose principle. As if Cawthorn can “do” math!  
!0 year treasury should be at a minimum in an unmanipulated market >3.5%; or ideally 4%.  When it comes to Fiscal everyone argues about “who’s gonna pay” and the “pay-fors”.  When it comes to monetary artificially low rates……..zzzz.  
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
I read a half dozen articles on this $7 trillion claim and none of the other articles went to the Treasury report to total it up.
The report itself hopped all around with no itemization but random claims here and there as if to purposely make it difficult to total it all up.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
4 years ago
Ah yes. Rename the old “eliminate waste and fraud” source of whatever amount of money is assumed to be needed. Needed, we might wonder, to shore up the budget of the Department of Waste and Fraud?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
If there was really 160 billion a year uncollected taxed (1.6 trillion over 10 years, the 5 former treasury secretaries estimate) the IRS would have long ago gone after it because that’s some serious money and would be worth chasing down. So I expect the real number closer to the CBO estimate (120/10 years = 12 billion a year).
The problem with hiring thousands of IRS agents is, what do you do with them in year 2? In year 1, they may well catch a lot of cheats and come down hard on them for the money. But once word gets out, the cheating will stop and now you have thousands of IRS agents collecting big salaries (these are going to be 6 figure accountant jobs with 6 figure benefits) but not generating enough revenue to justify having them on board and we know it’s virtually impossible to get rid of gov’t employees.
TechLover1
TechLover1
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Great point. Year two will be spent harrassing small business owners.
Most of the  mom and pop operations don’t have funds to hire a tax lawyer or any representation.
If you don’t hire someone competent in a small time period the IRS gives you, there is a default judgement and you lose. Tax process is guilty until proven innocent.
This is an easy win for IRS as compared to going after the big guys who have huge resources to defend their position.
So if this is a revenue generation scheme, most of the new IRS resources will go towards the low hanging fruit, small businesses.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TechLover1
I used to talk to a retired IRS agent at the gym. He as much as admitted that’s exactly what IRS agents do. The smaller the business,  the better for them. “Low hanging fruit” was exactly the term he used. They love sole props. They don’t even go after partnerships, because it’s a little harder to audit them.
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
That’s correct, they hate going after the big fish because it’s hard work.  Takes years of effort fighting very smart lawyers and accountants, and the IRS agents need “stats” every year.
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
it won’t stop evasion but it sure will create a bunch more jobs.  it’ll be about as effective at catching tax evasion as the tsa is effective at catching terror threats.

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