China Claims Taiwan as Its Own, One Day After Trump Prediction

One China Policy clip from Newsweek video

Trump Predicts China Will Invade Taiwan

A pair of Newsweek headlines caught my eye tonight.

Donald Trump Predicts ‘China’s Going to Be Next,’ Will Invade Taiwan

There are no details to the first headline. The second has details worth discussing.

China Claims Taiwan As Its Own as Russia Tests World With Ukraine

On Wednesday, foreign ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying told reporters Taiwan is “for sure is not Ukraine.” Hua claimed the territory for China, calling it an “inalienable part” of the country, a belief that Hua labeled an “indisputable historical and legal fact.” It’s a talking point China’s held firm to despite pressure from Western leaders to respect Taiwan’s sovereignty.

“It is common knowledge that the Taiwan question was caused by a civil war, and there is political confrontation between the two sides of the Taiwan Strait due to that civil war. However, China’s sovereignty and territory have never been divided and cannot be divided. This is the status quo of the Taiwan question,” Hua said.The China claim is nothing new. That has been its position forever.  

Meanwhile, Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed historic ownership of Ukraine during a speech on February 21. He claimed Ukraine has no identity outside of Russia, as it was “entirely created” by the Russian communist party after Vladimir Lenin came to power and criticized the Soviet leader for giving away territory that Russia had a rightful claim to.

Test of Biden

China has been saying these things forever, but is this this seemed timed to throw fat on the geopolitical fires. 

It’s also a test of Biden who already has his hands full on many fronts, foreign and domestic.

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TheCaptain
TheCaptain
2 years ago
Simply repeating the obvious headlines falls short of “analysis”. 
Jcbl
Jcbl
2 years ago
As soon as Uncle Joe was elected, I felt China would move on Taiwan during his first (hopefully only!) four years.  Hopefully I am wrong but I think not although there is still a small part of me thinking/hoping that keeping the Taiwan issue as is may serve China better as it is a foil with which to prod the West at will . 
dwkeller
dwkeller
2 years ago
While lost to many: the Ukraine is an important farming region for the world. Esp., as I know it, Eastern Ukraine.
With changing weather patterns, could this be part of the reason Russia invaded. Worth following. 
Kick'n
Kick’n
2 years ago
Reply to  dwkeller
Russia stands to gain considerable economic power from climate change. Think about it’s 3 major rivers that each flow north. They are frozen over most of the year. As Siberia warms and become open to exploitation the rivers will allow cheap transportation to the thawing Arctic Ocean. There’s sure to be lots of valuable minerals and resources. That’s why you’ll never see Russia join the green revolution. What Putin and the Oligarchs don’t want is anything threatening their own power. In other words democracy, Nyet! Never let the peasants taste the good caviar. They might like it too much…
TheWindowCleaner
TheWindowCleaner
2 years ago
This seems like a pre-cursor to the resource wars we’ll see as climate change disrupts world economies. Actually all of the idiot pols and pundits on both sides can yell all they want and the bankers and financiers will ignore them because they know where the real power is, namely their monopolistic paradigm of Debt Only. In other words we’re entering a time where government “debt”, read monetary gifting to the militar-industrial complex, will keep the economy chugging along (unless the unpredictability of war destroys too much of the productive facilities of one or both sides of the hot or cold war).
If we changed the dominant monetary paradigm to Gifting with a 50% Discount/Rebate policy at retail sale and a 50% debt jubilee at the point of note signing domestic economies could be stablily profitable and empires wouldn’t have to unconsciously repeat history of re-currant wars in order to maintain same. Undercut and resolve the social, political,economic, geo-political and ecological problems plaguing humanity with the new monetary paradigm of Gifting. Think. Don’t just react. 
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
2 years ago
Trump right.  Yet again.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
This is what happens when 80 million people vote for a weak, pathetic, old man. It will only get worse. Sadly, it was all very predictable, with near-certainty after the Afghanistan retreat.
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Stop.  Unlike the old orange Russian asset that came before him?   Go right ahead and tell us all about what you and your friends would have done differently to prevent this invasion.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
If you have serious evidence that Trump was a Russian asset, provide it. Otherwise, stop passing the buck and accept responsibility.
But to answer your specific question… I’d allow Russia into NATO on a trial basis. Enable a vote in the parts of Ukraine that want to secede. I think the deep-state Russia-scare tactics need to end before WW3 begins.
Kick'n
Kick’n
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Dude you are freakin clueless. Putin plays chess while DT can’t even play checkers. Just because you don’t know you’re a Russian asset doesn’t mean you’re not a Russian asset. DT did his best to screw with NATO. This after Putin invaded Ukraine and annexed Crimea. Was that just stupidity or on purpose? Maybe it was “America First, America First”? You see Putin could count on DT never getting involved with Ukraine much less letting them join NATO. Hence no need to invade and worry about the threat of other democracies coming to Ukraine’s aid to enforce democracy on his doorstep. Call it a simple strongman agreement. If your looking for any proof you just don’t understand how the real world works. Your idea to “allow” Russia to join NATO is truly brilliant and shows just how clueless you are…
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
Reply to  Kick’n
NATO is an American soldier pawn and a Taxpayer waste….The whole Russia Hoax and Adam Schiff is example of the lunacy of left, they were caught by first prosecutor that looked at their corruption and filth.  Sorry Trump was not great but he made these politicians look like the free loading clueless alient bots that they are…..
Anon1970
Anon1970
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
NATO should have given Putin assurances in writing that it would not admit Ukraine as a member. Ukraine should have committed to non-aligned status.
FlyNavy1
FlyNavy1
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Are you referring to the completely debunked, Hillary-sponsored, media-supported fake Steele dossier which led to four illegal FISA warrants and a false impeachment?
dmartin
dmartin
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Biden should have never put sanctions on Xinjiang over highly dubious Genocide claims….our own state department lawyers said there was not enough evidence and Biden did it anyways. Trump was not dumb enough to this when he could of while he was in office. All this did was push China towards Russia giving the Putin more confidence to invade Ukraine. 
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
I think the video speaks for itself about Trump being a “Russian asset.”
honestcreditguy
honestcreditguy
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
actually trump is only president in last 6 that has not had a war
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
The fat sloppy old man or the thin one?
Kick'n
Kick’n
2 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Oh and how did that Hong Kong thing work out? Did DT ever get China to back off? Yea that’s what I thought…
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Surely the Fed will use this as an excuse not to hike interest rates next month?
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
It’s irrevelent now. 
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway

More shortages and inflation on the way. They can hike now without worrying about the effect on the market.

whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Scooot
Well, predictions of Fed backpedaling have started:
Scooot
Scooot
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
I don’t think it matters much, although I think they’ll still hike by a quarter. I think there’s going to be a lot of economic pain that’s going to spread from this new world order. A lot of money will need to be spent to shore up military defences in Europe. What ex-soviet country is next to be annexed? International Trade is going to be severely hampered. So much uncertainty ahead. 
Naphtali
Naphtali
2 years ago
The yellowish regions will soon be restored to Russia. The west will slowly awaken to what they have done to themselves and the world.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Naphtali
F**k off, Vlad.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
2 years ago
 US’ ar$e licking EU PHONEYS have declared the harshest sanctions ever on Russia !  Congratulations EU idiots !   Russia doesn’t seem to care and everything is incalculated already. What  they gonna do next our crazy clueless mfrs ?  Attack Moscow or even give outright military support to Ukraine ? That would be the ideal scenario for another WW, the most destructive one ever, I sincerely hope that Russia nukes the sh it out of Washington when it comes to it, for that s were  the ‘axis of today’s evil’ is situated , NOT in Moscow  !    
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Better sell your house quickly and move out of Brussels. It’s ground zero since it’s the HQ of Nato.
William Janes
William Janes
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Moscow is his home.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  William Janes
I know but I like pulling his leg.
Naphtali
Naphtali
2 years ago
Ah, the planets are in full alignment for the push to begin. The deindustrialized, over financialized, disunited west has just the right leadership to facilitate the full press. We have built, or rather un-built, the west for the past four decades while cashing in on the industrialization of China. Will we respond with more sanctions? We should perhaps call it the bean counter defense. If the west, particularly the US, thinks that it holds a powerful financial bulwark against aggression, they will soon discover that it is, like the Maginot Line, quite permeable.
WarpartySerf
WarpartySerf
2 years ago
Tulsi for President    oh yeah
🌺@TulsiGabbard   
This war and suffering could have easily been avoided if Biden Admin/NATO had simply acknowledged Russia’s legitimate security concerns regarding Ukraine’s becoming a member of NATO, which would mean US/NATO forces right on Russia’s border.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  WarpartySerf
Pretty sure the State Department knew that. They want a new cold war.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
You should move to Russia, since you put them before your country.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
How am I putting Russia before my own country?
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
That is the standard Dumbocrat response (fed to them by their DONORcrat leaders):   “Everybody I don’t like is a Russian agent.”
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
2 years ago
Reply to  WarpartySerf
Yes, blame the victim!   Did you do the same thing when there were Warsaw pact forces “right on the border” of western Europe?  
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
LOL.  Who’s the victim?   As for the time when Warsaw Pact forces were there, the NATO forces were there on the other side of the border.  This is about what NATO did after the Warsaw Pact ended.   
William Janes
William Janes
2 years ago
Reply to  WarpartySerf
I think you mean “illegitimate.”   Russia has no priviliges in regards to demanding buffer states.  Germany would have the same right to demand buffer states between Russia.  Putin meant to invade from the beginning.  All the diplomatic chatter was a side show.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
How many of you here are of draft age? Macron come on TV just now. Nato and the EU will support Ukraine by all means. He said the world has changed.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
2 years ago
The combination of Ukraine and Taiwan together would be a pretty clear announcement that the US is no longer the world’s policeman. It’s about time nation states get serious about policing, anyway. That issue will be a problem for quite some time. And, well, the upside for Americans is they no longer have to foot the bill. The downside to the world is any extant alternative to the US being that policeman.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
2 years ago
Well, apparently Russia is making the big move on Ukraine now. So the US Intel community got that one right! Congratulations.
Will the Ukrainians fight? Or will they figure, “What difference does it make which corrupt government we have?” (Drive around Ukraine and Russia in Google street view. Clone countries. Ramshackle and unattractive is putting it nicely.)
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
They’re taking out military assets. Nothing civilian. No invasion has started yet. Not saying it won’t happen. When Russian oil and gas stops flowing through Ukraine, then it will be serious.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
They’ve got military on the streets of The capital, and civilians have been killed and injured. Stop with the BS propaganda.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Now I know that. When I posted that hadn’t been confirmed.
Irondoor
Irondoor
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
All you needed to know was that wheat prices were up 10% in the past 2 days. Somebody always knows.
Anon1970
Anon1970
2 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
Prior to 2014, Ukraine barely made American news other than to discuss its corruption. The WSJ ran an article about a $75 million home built by the guy in charge before the Maidan Revolution.
Call_Me
Call_Me
2 years ago
What a relief that this all came to pass after the closing ceremonies – could have really left a blemish on the olympics!
With talk going around that Xi’s hold on the top spot was increasingly tenuous, even 45 could see this coming.
Call_Me_Al
Anon1970
Anon1970
2 years ago
Reply to  Call_Me
This was all part of the Russian plan: Don’t spoil the Chinese Olympics and start the attack before the weather turns warmer in Ukraine and creates transportation issues.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Call_Me
I posted many times in the past month or so since Mish started commenting on Ukraine invasion possibilities that nothing would happen till after the Olympics. It was the easiest call in the world to make given how much Russia and China had invested in them and I’d have bet big money on it if it were possible to wager on such a thing.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago

Just to
make your morning happier, Putin has threatened any country that helps Ukraine
with untold consequences. The interpretation is that
Putin is willing to go nuclear if he doesn’t get his way. It is in Russian
military doctrine to use nuclear weapons to deescalate a military conflict in
their favour of course. It is being taken very seriously over here. 

Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Ukraine is Russia’s Irak, much less deadly for now
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Dutoit
More like Russia’s Afghanistan 2.0
Greenmountain
Greenmountain
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Bad news is that Putin can of course take over Ukraine. Will be some resistance but as the US has learned the next step is the painful one – managing the country.  And likely painful for all us as sanctions begin a slow economic toll around the world. Maybe Covid will seem like the good old days.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Greenmountain
Taking is one thing. Holding is another. Macron just spoke on TV here and judging from what he qaid Nato and the EU see Russia’s invasion as “an act of war”. It’s a hardball game now. We are in another epoch now. 
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Listen Yankee, this sh it has been going on since 2014,  the Ukraine coup at the time was US’ revenge for Russia destroying ISIS and other terrorists(US friends) in Syria in merely a matter of months… Fck ,I won t spoil more words on it, like you said the other day, Alea Iacta Est, we re  about to see soon who s the most INSANE party here ….   SO far it has been the fn EU for going along with a senile president’s narrative, who has nothing to lose and is being dictated by US’ deep, state warmongers….Like I said before I do hope Russia nukes the sh it out of Washington the Axis of Evil, when no diplomatic solution can be found and the US would even think of a military solution.   
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
What else did you expect ? 
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
How do you say F–k Putin in Flemish?
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
“FromBrussles bends over with a sultry look”
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Time to dust the bastards then.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Exactly how many times has Russia used nuclear weapons to deescalate military conflict? The next time will be the first.
On the other hand, the US has done such a thing and the US military still considers nukes (tactical and strategic) to be viable military strategy (in other words the US has many times affirmed they will use nukes first and not in retaliation).
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
We did it only to end WW II. MAD was and still is the doctrine of all possessors or atomic weapons. Tactical nuke use is a different matter. 
This explaination from Nato explains their use:

“The second component of Russia’s nuclear posture entails using tactical nuclear weapons to deter large scale conventional war, and is often called the “escalate to de-escalate” doctrine. It conceives of nuclear weapons as usable instruments in a conventional conflict, to be used if Russia is engaged in a conflict that it cannot win in favourable conditions conventionally or when the security of the state is endangered. The “escalate to de-escalate” doctrine entails Russian use of tactical nuclear weapons in a conventional battlefield to arrive at a political settlement, without escalating in a full-fledged nuclear war or large scale regional war. It presumes that when faced with the use of tactical nuclear weapons, an adversary unwilling to escalate would cease all hostilities and attempt to compromise with Moscow. However, this strategy is a double-edged sword: if ready and willing to escalate, the adversary could trigger a large scale nuclear retaliation or counter-offensive, at Russia’s detriment.”

I hope this clears it up for you.

 

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
US refuses to pledge to not strike first. Here you can see how all the nuclear powers view their use of nuclear weapons.
In other words US is more than willing to use Nuclear bombs first or whenever they feel they need to (on offense or defense).  Russia at least claims they won’t use theirs unless all is lost (in other words only on defense if they can’t win a conventional war or if someone uses nukes against them).  There is no chance ‘all will be lost’ in the Ukraine so there is no chance of nukes being used (the US is not putting forces into Ukraine when the war will be ended there in another day or so).
As for ending WWII, that’s the trope that’s always trotted out. Japan was finished regardless of whether the US dropped nukes or not since they had no viable military at that point (no ships or planes). They could have starved them into submission or landed forces and cleared the country city by city. Instead the US went with the nuke option mostly because they spent the time and money (most expensive endeavor ever at that point) building one and wanted to see it in action.
I hope that cleared it up for you 🙂
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
I am not sure what you are trying to get at? No first use is not off anyone’s table and never has been. I am uses Nato’s own assessment as to what they think Russia’s level of hurt before they go nuclear and it looks fairly low in my opinion. “a conflict that it cannot win in favourable conditions conventionally or when the security of the state is endangered” they wrote meaning if they look to lose a war like Ukraine for example of if the government (read Putin) is in danger.
Japan had been beaten back but not vanquished. An invasion would have been necessary and we would have lost hundreds of thousands more of which could have been my father and uncles. The bombs were dropped to stop the war quickly and they did.  
lil_neezy
lil_neezy
2 years ago
Was I not reading an article here a couple days ago stating how little you believed the US intelligence that an invasion was imminent?
To be clear, love your insight Mish on almost all things with our economy, but you must surely admit how wrong of a call it was that “propaganda” was being thrown around by the US on this invasion. It turns out you maybe SHOULD believe when your president tells you a foreign enemy is planning an attack on a sovereign nation. A little disappointing how quickly you’d dismiss both the obvious and verifiable build up of forces and the clear intent of a deranged leader: Putin.
With that said, love the content and please keep it up. You truly are an independent thinker and I respect it (and it’s why I read almost every article…even if I disagree sometimes)!
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  lil_neezy
Mish got the call on the market direction right which is one of his specialties so he did do well. For the actual war call I don’t blame him because Putin invading Ukraine is illogical to us even if the signs had been there all along. 
The MOEX is down 40% at one point. Now that’s a bear market.
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
2 years ago
Reply to  lil_neezy
Mish and many others could not accept the obvious (nobody puts 200K troops in an ‘exercise’ next to another country) in part because of personal biases against the messenger(s) who said loudly and clearly for weeks exactly what was going to occur.   
I’ll second my disappointment but agree, do continue to write it as you see fit.   You know the peanut gallery will be there when needed 🙂
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Reply to  lil_neezy
Puh-leeze.  Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Isn’t China mainland actually part of Taiwan?  They should claim they want the mainland back.  That will give Xi pause!
Dutoit
Dutoit
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
This was the official position of Taiwan when the Kuomintang was the main political force (it was the only authorized political party until 1986).
Winn
Winn
2 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
True. They belong each other.
Dr. Odyssey
Dr. Odyssey
2 years ago
How opportunistic…
Remember Barack Obama’s warning from two years ago when he said “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to f*ck things up.”
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Dr. Odyssey
And it is the same 0-bama who engineered the election of Biden in the primaries when he was languishing at 5th or 6th position.

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