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China’s Local Gov’t Debt in 2020 was 50% Higher Than WB, IMF Estimates

To meet GDP demand of the Chinese Government, unproductive debt in China soared out of sight. Who will pay for the losses and cleanup?

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Local Chinese Debt in Need of Bailout

The East is Read reports China’s Local Govt debt in 2020 was 50% Higher than WB, IMF Estimates. Undoubtedly, the situation is much worse today.

Local government debt in China amounted to 90 trillion yuan (12.49 trillion U.S. dollars) in 2020, 50% higher than the World Bank and IMF estimates, according to a recent study by Professor David Daokui Li and Zhang He of the Academic Center for Chinese Economic Practice and Thinking (ACCEPT), Tsinghua University.

Study Findings

  1. The rapid accumulation of infrastructure debt is the main reason for the rapid rise in the leverage ratio of local governments and the entire real economy.
  2. China’s local government debt demonstrates a nested structure, where local governments establish entities to secure loans, and these entities, in turn, leverage those borrowed funds to acquire further financing for their subsidiaries.
  3. Without central government intervention, local debt is unsustainable.

Michael Pettis Chimes In

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  1. The East is Read has just published a translation of an interesting recent speech by Tsinghua’s Li Daokui. He makes four points that I think are especially important. Given his prominence, I think his lecture shows how views in China have changed.
  2. The first point has to do with the sheer extent of local-government debt. Local government debt, he claims, has been seriously undercounted: “Our analysis revealed that in 2020, China’s local government debt approached 90 trillion yuan, equal to to 88% of GDP at that time.”
  3. He adds: “This estimate significantly surpasses those commonly cited by most scholars. For instance, the International Monetary Fund or the World Bank typically estimate it around 60 trillion yuan, or roughly 50% of GDP.”
  4. Second, he notes that infrastructure spending is by far the main source of debt. This has been obvious to some of us for many years, but I think this study may help force recognition that China’s infrastructure investment has been a bigger problem than property investment.
  5. The third interesting (to me) point he makes reinforces his second point: “without central government intervention, local debt is unsustainable.” Given that most debt went to fund infrastructure, if infrastructure spending had been productive, this could not be the case.
  6. The fourth point is that the “fundamental” reason for the surge in local government debt is “the prioritization of GDP growth by local governments, with a particular emphasis on short-term GDP gains.”
  7. I interpret this to mean that in recent years the purpose of infrastructure spending was not to accommodate the growth needs of the economy but rather to generate short-term economic activity. Again, some of us have been making this argument for a long time, but it hasn’t really been a formal part of Chinese macroeconomic thinking.
  8. I’ve long argued that because this was the year in which it became formally clear that local government debt was unsustainable, this was also the year that a consensus would begin to develop on the adverse impact of excessive spending on infrastructure.
  9. We have more to go before these views are consensus among policymakers, but I think it is becoming hard to find a Chinese economist who doesn’t recognize the relationship between unsustainable debt, unrecognized losses and infrastructure spending.

Overstated GDP

China hugely overstated GDP. Money went into useless projects that were used to meet artificial goals of 7 percent GDP.

China’s leadership set GDP goals and the local governments were forced to meet them.

The result was massive property bubbles that have now imploded and State Owned Enterprises (SOEs) that are worthless. The debt remains.

We have been discussing this since 2014. Reality has finally set in.

Strains in China’s Banking System; Avoiding the Fall

Flashback December 26, 2014: Pettis on Strains in China’s Banking System; Avoiding the Fall

Pettis provides a great deal of information about the transition of China’s growth, and expectations about that growth.

The four stages he sees are as follows.

Stage 1: The first period of liberalizing reforms under Deng Xiaoping
Stage 2: The investment growth period
Stage 3: The overinvestment period where “miracle” GDP growth was accompanied by a far greater expansion of debt to the point of saturation and malinvestment
Stage 4: The second period of liberalizing reforms under Xi Jinping

The ” liberalizing reforms under Xi Jinping” are now in reverse. Crackdowns are in vogue as Xi scrambles for ways to fix the mess. Criticism of the government is punished severely.

Michael Pettis Chimes in China’s Growth and Debt

Flashback November 22, 2020: Michael Pettis Chimes in China’s Growth and Debt

Beijing’s goal of doubling GDP by 2035 requires very rapid growth in debt, so much so that after a few years I am pretty sure they’ll quietly abandon that goal.

Pettis’ 2012 Bet With the Economist

The Economist made a bet with Pettis that China would overtake the US in GDP by 2018.

I found that laughable and so did Pettis.

The Dating Game: Michael Pettis Challenges The Economist to a Bet on China

Somehow my original post never migrated to my current blog, but here is my original GlobalEconomicAnalysis post The Dating Game: Michael Pettis Challenges The Economist to a Bet on China

The Economist paid off. Amusingly China is still not close and is headed in reverse.

In 2012, I commented “I wonder if the year 2030 is still far too optimistic from the standpoint of China.

On the basis of alleged “Purchasing Power Parity” some tout China did pass the US. But comparing countries so dissimilar on a PPP basis is totally flawed.

The Myth China Passed the US in GDP

On August 8, 2023, I discussed Purchasing Power Parity Silliness and the Myth China Passed the US in GDP

Michael Pettis: “Adjusting GDP for differences in purchasing power makes a great deal of sense in certain cases, but the way it is done is so filled with problems that it is extremely difficult to find any economist who takes these measures very seriously.

One ironic implication of course is that if China were to engage in an orgy of bad investment, it would get poorer (as more and more money goes to what in reality are expenses) while artificially boosting its GDP growth (as more and more expenses are converted into assets). This seems to have been what happened in 2009-10 and thereafter.

Unless you believe that the US fails to recognize losses on investments to anywhere near the same extent, if you really want to compare the two economies more usefully you would have to do at least two adjustments: you would have to adjust China’s GDP upwards for price differentials and also adjust it downwards for unrecorded losses.

My point is a lot smaller and a lot more precise. China and the US compile their GDP data implicitly in very different ways, among the most notable of which is the way Chinese lenders, banks as well as households, treat a substantial portion of the debt as if it were implicitly or explicitly guaranteed by central or local government agencies. This means investment losses don’t show up as losses (expenses) because it is politically difficult to do so, and are instead rolled over and so show up as assets.

Bonds of China’s Largest Property Developer Crash

On August 10, 2023 I noted Bonds of China’s Largest Property Developer Crash to 25 Percent of Notional Value.

In the above post, I mockingly equate GDP to “Grossly Distorted Procedures”

Grossly Distorted Procedures

I have picked on the US countless times over GDP calling it “Grossly Distorted Procedures”. Many have not read my past comments questioning US GDP.

But the property bubble in China is unlike anything else in the rest of the world. China has vacant malls, vacant airport, vacant entire cities. The State Owned Enterprises are all insolvent.

US corporations recognize losses when property goes under. China carries SOEs at book value.

The US drop bombs all over the world, making enemies in the process. What exactly is productive in that? Yet, government spending adds to GDP by definition.

However, no one will revise GDP lower. Not in the US, and certainly not in China.

The Secret Behind China’s Ghost Cities

Curiously, vacant, crumbling, uninhabited buildings are worth more than if someone tried to make them livable. 

Rent would not come close to paying the mortgage and you would have unhappy tenants anyway. 

How Does China Allocate the Losses?

Who pays to cleanup this mess is the big question at hand.

Most likely, future growth will be restrained, effectively hiding the losses over long periods of time. This will be difficult for China given its big demographic problem.

China is walking a tightrope. It needs to boost consumption.

Note that China has totally been reliant on SOEs, property bubbles, and export subsidies for growth.

So, in addition to allocating losses (or continually hiding them), what does China do for growth? That’s the second key question.

Silly BRICS Talk

Despite the above, people still think China will rule the world, the dollar will go to hell, and a BRICS-based currency led by China will soon rule the world.

Few bother to ask the key question: What Would it Take for a BRIC-Based Currency to Succeed?

China and the BRICS fail every condition needed to succeed as a trading replacement for the dollar.

However, if the measure of success is defined as limited use of a BRICS currency to avoid US sanctions, it can succeed. See the above link for discussion.

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D. Heartland
D. Heartland
2 years ago

We may be only the CLEANEST dirty shirt in the World Economies. Consider that the USA, in the Global Fin Crisis of 2007-9, allowed for R.E. assets NOT to be marked to market as those properties were scooped in when the foreclosure Tide was coming in…washing away the hidden filth of under-water assets to loan values. I would Argue that the USA way of reporting this filth is the MODEL for the world.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  D. Heartland

2024-2025 looks like brewing up weatherfronts for the perfect storm, economically.

Webej
Webej
2 years ago

The money might evaporate, but the infrastructure and capital goods are still there.

Peace
Peace
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej

Don’t worry.
Life goes on.
Chinese government debt to GDP ratio is around 77%, yearly trade surplus and can still absorb majority of states’ debt.
Japan had similar property bubble problem, deflation for over 30 years and life goes on.
US had property problem in 2019, debt of 34 trillions, yearly trade deficit of hundreds of billions, yearly deficit of 2 trilions and life goes on.
Lets see who will come out first from debt jubilee

Siliconguy
Siliconguy
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej

For awhile, but if no one is doing the maintenance the capital soon deteriorates.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej

…without money for maintenance …see Detroit for details.

RickWolf
RickWolf
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej

Infrastructure is worthless if it does not generate a return; put another way, add to the GDP. Think of a bridge to nowhere. Does it generate GDP once it is built?

Webej
Webej
2 years ago

»what does China do for growth?«

More babies

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Webej

Fundamentally yes, but… babies require young people to have a stake in society, and at the moment, in China (and in the more developed world too), young people are overwhelmed by the fundamental costs of having a stake… access to property ownership, and access to childcare to enable them to work, and access to education and jobs realised through growth both in exports and in a functioning internal market, to motivate them to form families and make new citizens. The export-orientated Asian Tiger growth model is alright for the “rising stars” part of the s-curve of development, but in all countries, once they reach the “cash cow” part of the s-curve, the costs of living for families rise as expectations change. If it was just about making babies, then Africa would be surging ahead, but it isn’t, as we all know… the CCP is the obvious barrier to the growth and development goals it claims to be there to realise.

Hank
Hank
2 years ago

The only thing less believable than US FED and Govt economic data is anything coming out of the CCP.

D. Heartland
D. Heartland
2 years ago
Reply to  Hank

I disagree. The US FED and GOV’T have an equally compliant media running cover for the messes WE CREATE HERE. Before I criticize my neighbor’s Messy yard, I clean up mine first – – creating the standard by which they can act. THE USA needs to get its shit together and worry about OUR economy. Then, we can report the news on China. Sure, China is a huge mess, but they are NOT spending their entire Treasury running wars on terror all over the globe as the US does.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  D. Heartland

Reminds me of when David Cameron said “We’re all in it together”, to which most of us thought, why is your mess our problem?! Politicians seem to want to act like they are our line managers, when they should be our staff for us to hire and fire.

Last edited 2 years ago by Rinky Stingpiece
Jizzi Tishu
Jizzi Tishu
2 years ago

Yawn. China ghost town time yet again. And why is China’s debt only 50% higher than WB, IMF estimates? Why not 500%? Or 5000%?

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago

A bit off topic, but related to China.

This is the annual prediction by China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) of when China’s oil demand would peak, and what that peak will be.

In 2017, CNPC predicted that China’s oil demand would peak in 2027 at 670 mTons. In 2017 China actually consumed (606) mTons.

In 2018 the prediction was peak demand by 2030 at 690 mTons. Actual 2018 consumption was (635) mTons.

2019: in 2030 at 705 mTons, Actual 2019 (667) mTons.

2020: before 2030 at 740 mTons; (676)

2021: by 2030 at 780 mTons; (719)

2022: by 2030 at up to 800 mTons; (728)

What can we learn from these predictions? Actual Chinese oil demand continues to grow much faster than predicted. Chinese Peak oil demand is unlikely to happen by 2030.

strongGnu
strongGnu
2 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Energy is needed to produce things and a great judge of economic activity, but the figures since the Ukraine war should be looked at suspiciously; not all the imported oil is being consumed in China. China is importing sanctioned oil to refine and resell the refined products. Even the Saudis are importing Russian oil for domestic consumption.

PapaDave
PapaDave
2 years ago
Reply to  strongGnu

All true. But Russia invaded Ukraine in 2022, and the CNPC predictions go back to 2017. They have consistently underestimated oil consumption every year for 5 years now.

I also make no claim as to China’s economic growth. And I am aware that China imports some oil, refines it, and then exports it; much like the US does.

In addition, China makes it a policy to fill every oil storage site when oil prices drop. And to cut back on purchases and even draw down some of that storage when prices spike.

It should be noted that even with the spike in oil prices in 2022, that Chinese consumption still increased.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

…because it’s already peaked, and now in decline, China O&G demand fell in 2022 for the first time in decades – not least because they joined in a push for renewables as well as declining exports and declining demographjcs. Whatcha smokin’?

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

China foraged all over the world and in her local gov, before hibernation. During
hibernation only the brain will get some fat. Don’t wake up China when she is asleep in her den, bc the bear will claw u. That’s what happened in Paris 1929 and in 1949.

Last edited 2 years ago by Micheal Engel
Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Micheal Engel

No it didn’t, you deranged shill.

Albert
Albert
2 years ago

Local government debt of 88 percent of GDP would indeed be serious. On the other hand, since 2004, I have seen a long procession of China experts confidently predict each year that China‘s economy is close to implosion. That said, agree that the prediction of a BRICS currency replacing the dollar peddled by MAGA figures is nonsense.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Albert

Pettis is not one of those fakesperts. It’s a straw man to extrapolate from a series of made-up imbeciles to an actual credible expert with years on the ground in the game.

KGB
KGB
2 years ago

Chinese cannot legally invest their life savings outside of China. Chinese banks are risky. Chinese corporations do not use audited accounting nor obey western ethical standards. Chinese have resorted to investing in vacant apartments. The custom is standard enough that a young man seldom marries unless he owns a vacant apartment. Whether in a bank or in a vacant apartment Chinese life savings are worthless. The seeds of social unrest are sown. China has one hundred million migrant construction workers. Most are now unemployed. They all have cell phones. One hundred million makes an impressive flash mob.

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
2 years ago

I am so happy that we don’t have a local government debt problem, and no housing bubble in sight. Now, I only have to worry about China.
Maybe Professor David Daokui Li and Zhang He of the Academic Center for Chinese Economic Practice, can come over and verify it.

Maximus Minimus
Maximus Minimus
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Sorry if I didn’t specify. I live in Canada. Every province is in debt up to their eyeballs. And give me a vacant city where I can move to. Unaffordable housing everywhere.

D. Heartland
D. Heartland
2 years ago

Yes, we have friends in Vancouver BC with a 900 sq foot house worth a $Million Canadian.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  D. Heartland

Canuck Zimdollars?

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago

I don’t think Alberta is, they are the cash cow being raped by Quebec.

D. Heartland
D. Heartland
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

We are just a slightly cleaner dirty shirt in a basket of basket cases.

Avery2
Avery2
2 years ago

“After dinner over, who cares about spoon?”

Last edited 2 years ago by Avery2
Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  Avery2

Whoever is doing the washing up, presumably.

KGB
KGB
2 years ago

China is an emerging international basket case.

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