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Elon Musk Advocates a Carbon Tax, Praises Dogecoin, Pans Bitcoin

Tesla Will No Longer Accept Bitcoin

High Time For a Carbon Tax

Bitcoin and Coal

Working With Doge Developers

Developers? What Developers?

Futurism noted the Twitter account associated with actual Dogecoin developers immediately distanced itself from the project.

Excuse me for pointing out that working with app developers will not do a damn thing for mining efficiency and its mining that creates energy demand.

App Developers 

Mobile apps development firm AppSwarm Corp and blockchain research lab and startup accelerator DogeLabs.Io plan to build out a global Dogecoin development team that will focus on building applications on top of the memecoin’s blockchain.

The above snip is from Dogecoin to Get DevOps Support for Commercial Apps

Silliness of the Day

https://twitter.com/LloydOstertagg/status/1392799494706802692

Tesla Accepting Dogecoin

https://twitter.com/dogecoin_rise/status/1392774543505305604

People are excited by the possibility. It is fundamentally meaningless. 

People are speculating in Dogecoin. They are not going to use it to buy stuff and pay taxes on it.

Moreover, even if they did, how could it matter? Those who accept any crypto currency could immediately trade it for dollars. 

There could of course be a psychological impact by sheep willing to follow the leader over a cliff.

Questions Abound

  1. How could Elon Musk possibly have not understood the huge energy demand of Bitcoin?
  2. How much Dogecoin does does Musk have and when did he buy it?
  3. Is Musk purposely attempting to drive the cost of Dogecoin higher?

Questions #2 and #3 have been on my mind for a while. I did not ask them because I did not want to be accused of accusing Musk.

I am still not accusing Musk, but in light of these bizarre Tweets it’s time to ask questions, and pointed ones.

Dogecoin is a Joke

It’s important to step back and discuss dogecoin started as a joke, a parody on Bitcoin.

For details, please see Dogecoin, Created as a Joke, is the Epitome of Greater Fool Mania

Jackson Palmer, one of the creators had this to say. “It was a joke on a whim. … I sat down with a beer and slapped doge’s face on a coin and put it live. The next day there was heaps of retweets. … We thought it would last maybe three days.” 

That is what people are speculating on.

On Jan 28, Mr. Musk, the billionaire boss of electric-vehicle maker Tesla Inc., tweeted a faux “Dogue” magazine cover. Once, he shared a meme based on the movie “The Lion King,” with the Shiba Inu dog superimposed on Simba’s face. Another time, he wrote, “Who let the Doge out,” and “No highs, no lows, only Doge.” Mr. Musk renewed his interest in the cryptocurrency in April, tweeting “Doge Barking at the Moon.”

Who’s Getting Rich?

The Jist has some details in Dogecoin: Another Bubble Or To The Moon?

The Dogecoin rich list on bitinfocharts.com shows that almost 50% of the total circulating supply is held within 12 wallet addresses, with one of those wallets containing 28.42% of the total supply.

Data also shows that ~60% of Doge is held in wallets older than 1 year old, with the remaining ~40% of Doge supply being held by traders for less than 1 year.

Dogecoin Price 

At the current price of $0.48 Dogecoin has a market cap of about $62 billion.

Someone could have bought Dogecoin for about a penny early this year. 

Dogecoin Math

One wallet has about 28% of the supply. That could be hedge fund, or a corporation or an individual. 

The current supply of Dogecoin is 129.5 billion as of May 9, 2021,

28% of 129.5 billion is 36,260,000,000. Purchased at a penny the purchase price would be $362,600,000.

If one made that investment at a tenth of a penny that would be $36,260,000.

Toddler HOLDLer

“Bought some Dogecoin for lil X, so he can be a toddler hodler”

Pointed Question

Who would or could throw that much money on a joke unless they knew something or could influence the market? 

Again, that wallet might not be a person and it could be someone mining and HODLing since the beginning. 

But given the bizarre Tweets, it’s fair to ask what Musk’s holding is and when he bought it.

Mish 

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Dean2020
Dean2020
5 years ago
Seems that Elon and his followers forget about the carbon footprint resulting from mining the material that goes into every one of his vehicles. Kind of a hypocrite. Just more market manipulation for personal gain and people fall for it every time.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Musk advocating a carbon tax that would no doubt benefit Tesla is not a surprise to me. Why wouldn’t he like a carbon tax?
Honestly, I have begun to worry about the huge investment Musk is making here because I suspect that at some point his schemes won’t hang together anymore.
I think it’s important to separate Tesla the car, which is brilliant, from Tesla the phenomenon, which has a lot of the characteristics of a tulip mania. This thing with the “Doge Con” is just one more example. 
Cocoa
Cocoa
5 years ago
Musk is talking his book. Why am I not shocked
Rbm
Rbm
5 years ago
Mish what happens when everyone creates a crypto currency.   Government/ banks/ individuals and there are say 40 cryptos in circulation.  
Scooot
Scooot
5 years ago
Reply to  Rbm
Or 400. It makes a mockery out of limited supply. Someone decides to effectively print their own money and others think great, let’s buy it, someone else will pay more for it  later. 
numike
numike
5 years ago
numike
numike
5 years ago
The Boy Who Cried Inflation Persistent warnings about rising inflation have proved to be false alarms. Could this time be different?
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
5 years ago
Godly assholes like Musk have the divine power to talk things up or to talk them down, according to what suits THEIR wallet….with innumerous wishful gangbangers out there taking the bait hoping to make a buck or two in the process while the divine ones make guaranteed millions knowing exactly when to sell, when to buy…..This is criminal manipulation of markets….well, ‘markets’ is actually too much of a polite word for a pure casino game… CRAZY world ….and ticking !
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
Talking your book is a time-honoured tradition and not illegal. Every time a money manager says what stocks he likes or dislikes on TV he is talking his book. Just saying you like or dislike a financial instrument and does not constitute manipulation even if it goes in your direction. Bitcoin’s market cap is over one trillion Dollars. Musk doesn’t control this market because it is just too big now. The SEC could launch an investigation if they want to but I doubt they would since cryptos are not exactly under their jurisdiction because they are currencies. 
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Dogecoin’s market cap is $25 billion so he could influence the price especially if the free float is small but it is not illegal if you own something to tell everybody you like it. Actual market manipulation is different because for it to work for long enough to be worthwhile for years if possible and has to be under the radar. 
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Yeah, you would say so, if only to disagree with me or someone else for that matter…..it s your character….your wife will agree I guess, unless of course she doesn t agree, and this or some other blog is your outlet ….ne m’en veux pas svp 🙂
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
I do tend to look for weaknesses in arguments and I do like it when someone tears apart mine. It’s the spice of life for me but I do tend not to see that some people are not into it as much as I am. Nevertheless I do like you even though we often have different ideas.
Scooot
Scooot
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Regardless he’s taking the mick out of everyone. 🙂 
Jojo
Jojo
5 years ago
I haven’t gotten a post from you on my RSS feed in 2 days.  Did you change the RSS link address?
Mish Talk
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Mish
Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Yes RSS Feed Changed
See if this works
Jojo
Jojo
5 years ago
Reply to  Mish
OK, that worked.  Thanks.
You should add an RSS feed link somewhere on the web page.
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
The Bullish Exchange’s press release mentions:
” “The Bullish exchange will leverage blockchain technology and a new market architecture to revolutionize the high-performance trading landscape by transparently automating expensive third-party functions and turning them into yield-generating portfolio management tools to offer institutions and individuals better and safer access to the latest cryptocurrency investment strategies,” said http://block.one CEO Brendan Blumer.”
It is not a surprise that Elon Musk like crypto. 
Doug78
Doug78
5 years ago
Peter Thiel announced two days ago that he is putting $10 billion to setup a new cryto exchange called “Bullish”. He is the co-founder of Paypal and it was the start of his fortune. The other co-founder is Elon Musk. Two dots connected. A new cryto exchange backed by serious money and run as an stock exchange for cryto could become dominate because it fills a need just like the NYSE and NASDQ did long go. 
The fact that dogecoin was set up as a joke has no relevance at all to its being used as money. If people can buy and sell using it then it works even if there is a dog on the face. Frankly using myself as an example, I have no idea whose face is on the 50 Euro note. All that matters is I can use to buy something and the same thing goes for all cryptos. The advantage for dogecoin is that its cheap. Bitcoin like Berkshire Hathaway stock is so expensive that only a rich person can buy it directly. Bitcoin is the same way. Dogecoin on the other hand could be used to buy a beer in a bar. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
There are many cryptos that would work far better than “Doge-con” for commerce, and some of them are blazing fast and created with that purpose in mind.  
None of the good ones are mined. Third generation cryptos like XRP and Cardano (there are others as well) would work way better, and the total issuance was set when they were created. This solves the mining issue, but creates another issue……some small number of people own most of the coins, and they stand to gain if the coins are adopted broadly for commerce.
The biggest problem is that US regulators want to call them securities, and TPTB have never given decent guidance on whether they CAN be used as money. 
In the US, cryptos are taxed like a short term stock trade. This creates a problem for using crypto for commerce.
The failure to deal with this issue is not an accident. It’s a delaying tactic by the SEC and the big banks, as they develop their own solutions.
Mish
Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Hi Doug 
This is a good topic.
I will reply in a future post
Thanks.
Mish
Mish
5 years ago
shamrock
shamrock
5 years ago
What happened to that guy who posted 20 or 30 comments every day?  Sechel was his name?
Beenburnedtwice
Beenburnedtwice
5 years ago
Thanks Mish. No carbon taxes please.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
5 years ago
Agreed
Mish
Mish
5 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Third or first depending on point of view
I was always against them

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