Yesterday, I commented Billionaire Epstein, Charged With Sex-Trafficking Teen Girls, May Name Names
In my posted I cited this Bloomberg article: Epstein Arrest Is a Worry for Donald Trump
The entire slant of the article seemed very biased against Trump. I commented:
Speculatively speaking, looking back to 2005 and 2006, is it more likely someone wanted to protect Bill Clinton or Trump? I don’t know, nor does anyone else (except those who may have been directly involved).
It’s unwise to go down these lines of thoughts, I only did so to balance out the Bloomberg slant against Trump.
Flight Logs
Two more articles came out today. Neither is damaging to Trump, and I am hardly a Trump defender in general.
Please consider Flight Logs Show Bill Clinton Flew on Sex Offender’s Jet Much More than Previously Known.
Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” — even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights, according to records obtained by FoxNews.com.
Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that, and trips between 2001 and 2003 included extended junkets around the world with Epstein and fellow passengers identified on manifests by their initials or first names, including “Tatiana.” The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.
“Bill Clinton … associated with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, who everyone in New York, certainly within his inner circles, knew was a pedophile,” said Conchita Sarnoff, of the Washington, D.C. based non-profit Alliance to Rescue Victims of Trafficking, and author of a book on the Epstein case called “TrafficKing.” “Why would a former president associate with a man like that?”
Police in Palm Beach, Fla., launched a year-long investigation in 2005 into Epstein after parents of a 14-year-old girl said their daughter was sexually abused by him. Police interviewed dozens of witnesses, confiscated his trash, performed surveillance and searched his Palm Beach mansion, ultimately identifying 20 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 who they said were sexually abused by Epstein.
In 2006, at the request of Palm Beach Police, the FBI launched a federal probe into allegations that Epstein and his personal assistants had “used facilities of interstate commerce to induce girls between the ages of 14 and 17 to engage in illegal sexual activities.”
According to court documents, police investigators found a “clear indication that Epstein’s staff was frequently working to schedule multiple young girls between the ages of 12 and 16 years old literally every day, often two or three times per day.”
Speculation
Once again, I caution against speculation, but at least this speculation comes accompanied with flight log evidence.
Some might object to the above article since it is from Fox News.
OK. Please consider Vanity Fair.
Vanity Fair
Perhaps the most revealing commentary Donald Trump has offered on Jeffrey Epstein, the disgraced financier who pleaded not guilty this week to sex trafficking and conspiracy, occurred in late February 2015, onstage at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference. Trump, then flirting with a presidential run, was fielding softballs from Fox News host Sean Hannity when a lightning round of questions turned to a favorite topic: Bill Clinton. “Nice guy, Trump said. “Got a lot of problems coming up, in my opinion, with the famous island with Jeffrey Epstein,” he added, seemingly veering off topic. “Lot of problems.”
Trump isn’t known to have gone on any trips with Epstein, which would have been out of character. “I don’t think Trump would go to someone else’s property or someone else’s island or villa,” Nunberg said. “He doesn’t even play golf at anyone else’s clubs.”
Other portions of the article attempted to smear Trump but the attacks came across poorly, especially in light of the above direct quotes.
I suspect this will not be swept under the rug this time and I certainly hope it won’t, no matter who is guilty.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
This is the good text
I used to live in Thailand, am not a pedo, but met self-proclaimed pedos. This strikes me as odd: “Police in Palm Beach, Fla., launched a year-long investigation in 2005 into Epstein after parents of a 14-year-old girl said their daughter was sexually abused by him”– timeout. Where were the parents when the 14 yo was with this guy? Keep in mind in Thailand certain poor parents will rent their kids to pedos… connect the dots.
This girl’s parents were separated. She lived in a poor neighborhood the majority of the time with her mum. Her dad’s wife discovered she had a few hundred dollars on her and got the story out of her and promptly called the police.
And then there is this story… not to be confused with Epstein or Weiner.
When this is this much smoke, there is a fire somewhere
GeeWiz, good one, maybe a gay serial killer?
Now might be a good time to connect a few dots on this.
…and from WaPo…
The British parliament, as well as a number of entertainment / BBC personalities, were heavily involved in pedophilia for decades. It wasn’t just Cyril Smith or Jimmy Saville (allegedly). Reports of dozens of high power VIP persons involved. For decades. Dozens of cases “quietly” pushed aside and not investigated.
Given that Holllywood (in the USA) and British entertainment industry regularly go back and forth on projects, what are the odds that Hollywood is implicated in Epstein et al?
What are the odds that the pedophiles in British Parliament know a few “open minded gents” in the US Congress? Not just Bill Clinton or Anthony Weiner
And Hilary Clinton’s right hand “man”, Huma Adadin, was married to Weiner… two enablers sticking together
I read Comey’s daughter is involved in the investigation. I’m sure she’ll recuse herself because of the obvious conflict of interest. I suspect this will be another attempt to get Trump. All we’ll hear is stuff about Trump while ignoring the other 100 or so people involved.
How did Epstein become a billionaire? I would love to see the “follow the money” looked into. I’m not surprised that powerful people would prey on vulnerable young women. This has been the going on for ever.
I think the money angle will be more interesting with respect to corruption. The sex is likely just a tool for the corruption.
“How did Epstein become a billionaire? “
The same way any of them do in financialized dystopias: By being handed money the Fed stole by debasement from productive people.
One must question and wonder why a former president like Clinton would want to associate with a pedophile and child molester like Epstein?
Epstein was a major democrat and Clinton donor.
Epstein provided women. Perhaps even children.
The answer to your question is obvious: Willy the Weasel has the same morals as an alley cat.
“Get real Mish,Trump bangs hookers,porn stars,the hired help.interns,literally anything that ….”‘
LOL please what I said “Epstein Sex Scandal: Flight Logs Show Clinton, Not Trump, More Likely Involved”
I was talking about 1 particular scandal – nothing else
I believe my statement is accurate
If the same amount of prosecutorial attention is paid to this as RussiaGate this is gonna be an epic takedown.
This is just the beginning. Epstein is quoted as saying he helped found the Clinton Foundation. What a brilliant plan to traffick children from foreign countries that suffered frim recent natural disasters, such as Haiti’s earthquake. There are a lot of evil people in this rabbit hole and it goes pretty deep. Many names of well none politicians, entertainers, royalty and business owners are about to be indicted. Epstein is the tip of the iceberg and an avalanche is soon to come.
Must be a slow week on Wall Street.
Barr isn’t going to recuse himself from the current charges to Epstein just will recuse self from reviewing prior case. This means Trump wants the looked at in detail – anything Trump touches becomes very public.
I was more interested in where he came from and how he got there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc-uysS6Tlw
They are all swinish
Get real Mish,Trump bangs hookers,porn stars,the hired help.interns,literally anything that moves,and he admits it lol,think the Donald gonna miss out on this action with little girls (on a private island!)?If you believe that I got some prime beach front property in downtown Phoenix with your name on it!
If nothing else, that rant provides a pretty good illustration of the esteem in which “innocent until proven guilty” is currently held…..
If nothing else, that rant provides a pretty good illustration of TDS.
Clinton put out a statement detailing how many trips he took and said that Secret Service agents were on every single one. Clinton is a very skilled liar and almost never says anything that can be proven false. So I’m guessing if there was a flight with no SS agents then it was a “small side trip” on a larger itinerary. Either that or Fox is continuing the descent into zero hedge and infowars infamy.
“Clinton put out a statement detailing how many trips he took and said that Secret Service agents were on every single one. Clinton is a very skilled liar and almost never says anything that can be proven false.”
How can you say that, yet not see it?
“In 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein’s airplane: one to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the work of the Clinton Foundation. Staff, supporters of the foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every leg of every trip…”
See it now?
How about 2001? 2004? etc…
“I never had sex with that woman”
Why would he ride in Epstein’s jet if he has his own? There’s more evidence than just flight logs — like for example Epstein’s phone book with 16 different ways for him to reach Trump.
16 different ways to reach Clinton, not Trump…
It’s really been a boring couple of decades, news wise. We haven’t had anything this scandalous in the presidential (or otherwise) headlines for a long time….since the 90’s I’d say…when we had that pervy Clinton guy stirring things up. So it’s about time we got a new protagonist to…..oh, wait.
oh I bet there has been and there is and will be a lot of shredding going on by a whole lot of people https://theintercept.com/2019/07/09/jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-shredder/
And a whole lot of Lysol.
That must have been an industrial size shredder! And he still recently got caught with hundreds (thousands?) of photos of nude or semi-nude young women, plus videos. That right there is illegal for a registered sex offender. Is Jefferey a slow learner, or really addicted to it, or both?