Factory Orders Look Grim in October Down 3.6 Percent, What’s Going On?

Shipments and new factory orders are down nearly across the board. But what’s really going on?

Factory orders from the Commerce Department, chart by Mish

Factory Orders Synopsis

New orders for manufactured goods in October, down following two consecutive monthly increases, decreased $21.8 billion or 3.6 percent to $576.8 billion, the U.S. Census Bureau reported today. This followed a 2.3 percent September increase. Shipments, down two consecutive months, decreased $8.2 billion or 1.4 percent to $577.8 billion. This followed a virtually unchanged September decrease. Unfilled orders, up ten of the last eleven months, increased $4.0 billion or 0.3 percent to $1,356.8 billion. This followed a 1.3 percent September increase. The unfilled orders-to-shipments ratio was 6.90, up from 6.88 in September. Inventories, up four consecutive months, increased $0.5 billion or 0.1 percent to $857.0 billion. This followed a 0.1 percent September increase. The inventories-to-shipments ratio was 1.48, up from 1.46 in September.

Enough Already

The above snip is courtesy of Census Department.

Usually I go over factory orders by sector, plus shipments. However, the Census Department’s chart that follows shows the silliness of such endeavors.

If anyone can explain what that chart means, please do so. And revisions make a further mockery of it all. New orders were revised from 2.8 percent to 2.3 percent.

My chart shows the same wild swings but with more breakdowns as follows.

October Numbers

  • Total Manufacturing: -3.6%
  • Motor Vehicles and Parts: -3.6%
  • Nondurable Goods: -1.9%
  • Excluding Transportation: -1.2%
  • Nondefense Capital Goods Excluding Aircraft: +0.9%
  • Shipments: -1.4%

That looks pretty grim but the numbers and revisions are so wild in both directions that it’s impossible to see what’s happening.

Economists often put a spotlight on “core capital goods” defined as Nondefense Capital Goods Excluding Aircraft.

The rationale is core capital goods measure investment and thus is a leading indicator of future production. Having followed this for years, I assure you that it’s meaningless.

Aircraft Orders

Part of the problem is wild changes in aircraft orders. Starting in June, the last five aircraft percentage changes are as follows: +71.1%, -45.7%, -17.5%, +90.6%, and October is -49.6%.

Aircraft orders skews transportation orders.

Shipments are what impacts GDP. More accurately its real (inflation-adjusted) shipments that impact GDP. New orders lead to shipments eventually, but aircraft orders have a massive lead time.

So instead of going over all the components, let’s take a step back to see if we can spot trends that are impossible to see in the monthly noise.

I created three new charts just moments ago for discussion.

Factory Orders and Shipments

Check out the line on core capital spending (light blue). It’s no wonder that I have found percentage increases or decreases to be meaningless.

Yet, every time core capital spending rises, someone puts a spotlight on it, but ignoring it when it goes down.

That chart makes it look like things are humming other than nondurable good.

In reality, things are not humming because it is inflation-adjusted sales and shipments that matter.

Real Factory Orders and Shipments

Real Factory Orders and Shipments Since 2021

Factory Orders Synopsis

  • Inflation makes it appear there is a US manufacturing revival.
  • Long term, US manufacturing is still in decline.
  • Aircraft orders helped save durable goods orders. Housing related durable goods such as refrigerators and stoves have taken a hit.
  • Real manufacturing excluding transportation is down 7.4 percent, from 170,033 to 157,510 since March of 2022.

Forget all the monthly percentage nonsense because that’s what’s really going on.

Expect More Inflation

Biden wants to bring manufacturing back to the US. But his big push for unions and on EVs is making a mess of things.

Green Fantasy

In the real world, The Green Fantasy Ends Because Consumers Don’t Want to Pay for It

EVs are not selling because despite massive subsidies to both the manufacturers and consumers, the latter via tax credits, consumers don’t want them.

GM Decreases EV Investment in Favor of Buybacks

Note that GM and Ford are scaling back on EVs in favor of more gasoline-powered cars. And GM is repurposing money for EV investments into share buybacks and dividend hikes.

For discussion, please see To Shore Up Share Price, GM Decreases EV Investment in Favor of Buybacks

And Manchin is wrong too. He wants to cut off China. Sorry, it cant be done.

It’s Not Easy to Avoid Buying Items Made or Sourced in China

For discussion, please see It’s Not Easy to Avoid Buying Items Made or Sourced in China

GM and Ford are in a battle over EV batteries compounded by absurd language in the Inflation Reduction Act.

Inflationary pressures are substantial. The Fed has its hands full despite widespread belief the Fed finally is getting inflation under control.

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Gumtoo
Gumtoo
2 years ago

Nice work. Thanks, Mish.

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

The war in Ukraine is 2 years old. Israel/Hamas is 60 days old. These two will boost the Industrial sector, with or without money, in the next 3/5 years. The industrial sector will feed two wars (at least) and replenish our stocks, after recycling the old. Regional wars are contagious.

Bigus Dickus
Bigus Dickus
2 years ago
Reply to  Micheal Engel

Let’s hope, eh?

joedidee
joedidee
2 years ago
Reply to  Bigus Dickus

only MIC companies get fiat $dollars

Micheal Engel
Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Something is wrong : the total is equal to motor vehicle and parts, the lowest.
The defense sector is working day and night.

joedidee
joedidee
2 years ago
Reply to  Micheal Engel

Raytheon complaining it can’t get parts for bombs and missiles
and then it says it can’t get skilled workers either

KGB
KGB
2 years ago

USA has a third world education system and a third world work force. The prevailing wage for unskilled labor in the world is $2/hour. Many Americans do not speak English, have no work ethic, nor arithmetic skills. They are not worth $2/hour. The USA standard of living is rapidly attaining equilibrium with the productivity of a Democrat who believes in the man made global warming religion.

lynwood
lynwood
2 years ago
Reply to  KGB

look at any physics department in usa. hardly a native born amerikan. our boys and girls can barely do engineering and that’s really simple to grasp………..pax dumbfuckistan needs the immigrants. our boys are fat and dumb.

KGB
KGB
2 years ago
Reply to  lynwood

This sounds worn out but “When I was young engineering calculus included one semester of differential equations.” It may have been different for sanitary engineers. But that major was not available at my school.

lynwood
lynwood
2 years ago
Reply to  KGB

in russia the geologists need physics degrees. not so much in usa. usa has dumb folks. sure the 1 percent of us have a brain and go to silicon valley with those brains………..but the 99percent of amerikans are really dumb. FIRE industries at best…..

Ed.Strong
Ed.Strong
2 years ago
Reply to  lynwood

Yeah, and your posts make you seem like a real erudite force-of-nature.

You sad, hateful little dork. Stop.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  lynwood

Actual geology jobs, don’t need physics, most of it is operating software, using a machine to process data, then it’s just “interpretation” or analysis for reports.

People confuse higher education for academic study rather than vocational, which is what most people use it for.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  KGB

BS engineers still go on about calculus.

KGB
KGB
2 years ago
Reply to  lynwood

As I recall compound interest was a seventh grade subject. No student should be admitted to college unless the student is able to calculate the lifetime cost of a student loan. Reality is the mental equivalents of fourth graders are buying education, automobiles, and homes on credit for 3x+ the advertised price.

Capn Crunch
Capn Crunch
2 years ago
Reply to  lynwood

literally true. Does it matter? I don’t know but it is true. Not a pink face in the crowd.

KGB
KGB
2 years ago
Reply to  Capn Crunch

Compare the salary of a physicist and a used car salesman.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  KGB

This is more true – that the economy undervalues hard technical subjects and rewards sales in various proxy forms.

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  lynwood

Asian culture is group culture, and also very class-based (e.g.: south Asia), and has a high level of pressure and parental steering when it comes to education and careers, The west has become complacent, and manipulates the system to produce political outcomes.

Chris
Chris
2 years ago

I dunno but that durable goods are generally flat, in spite of the big housing slowdown that would use most of the refrigerators and washing machines is surprising to me.

On the EV note, and I am absolutely not a green EV car fanatic, much more of the diesel engine type, but what impact would the US Lithium deposit discovery have on that industry??? The largest Lithium deposit in the world was discovered right here in good old USA; that’s got to be good.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/lithium-discovery-in-us-volcano-could-be-biggest-deposit-ever-found/4018032.article

Stu
Stu
2 years ago

Money & Liquidity is why, and it’s not going to be turning around anytime soon now. Once these things take a firm hold, and a Holiday is a perfect nail in the coffin, they tend to increase in longevity as well…

The Window Cleaner
The Window Cleaner
2 years ago

The monetary paradigm of Debt Only as in burden to repay has always been the problem and monetary gifting has always been the answer. Drop the acculturated false orthodoxies and open the mind.

David Olson
David Olson
2 years ago

That GM is increasing buybacks and dividend rates could be a signal that ROI in the automotive industry is awful, and investors want to and should invest elsewhere.

Captain Crunch
Captain Crunch
2 years ago
Reply to  David Olson

It is literally insane that companies are allowed to use barely taxed profit to buy back stock. This is the most insane perversion of a market ever and after we crash and burn it will be anlayzed in 21st Century econ textbooks on Mars.

The Window Cleaner
The Window Cleaner
2 years ago

50% discount/rebate at retail sale for EV’s and 50% Debt jubilee at point of loan signing solves all problems and rationalizes economic policy. Oh, by the way discount at retail and loan signing for gas powered auto is 25%. Discount for guns and ammo and hard core pornography is 1%. Sorry. 🙂

lynwood
lynwood
2 years ago

money supply tubing down………which has rarely happened in past 150 years…….and when it does, depression happens…….amerika over extended and nobody is borrowing and money supply dropping. the stupid wars like the zionist apartheid slum genocide, backstopped by US NAVY is making us pariahs……….the stupid war in ukraine is a waste, since obama got us involved in that coup and civil war. stupid repugs with donald the nitwit cult leader and war monger genocide joe and nuland………ain’t gonna stop the crumbling evil empire.

Counter
Counter
2 years ago

Your charts are better

Huge Discrepancy Between GDP +5.2 Percent and GDI +1.5 Percent Accelerates
November 29, 2023 By Mish

The case for recession has not been dismissed. The negative 3.0 percent decline in GDI followed by very weak increases of 0.5 percent in two consecutive quarters does not rule out recession if one believes as I do, that GDI is the better set of numbers.

At a minimum, as measured by GDI, the economy came very close to recession. Real Final Sales disagrees.

Key Take Away

Meanwhile, the key take away from this release is the economy likely is not humming the way media and Biden present.

Why Are Americans in Such a Rotten Mood? Biden Blames the Media

On November 17, I discussed the rotten mood of consumers. Polls show people do not think the economy is humming.

Consumers are facing ‘widespread’ rise in loan delinquencies Last Updated: Nov. 28, 2023 By Joy Wiltermuth

Credit-card delinquencies rose 21 basis points to almost 3% in the third quarter of this year, the highest level since the first quarter of 2012 (see chart), when looking at past due debt held by commercial banks.

Late credit-card payments have been a major driver of overall consumer-loan delinquencies, which increased to 2.53% in the third quarter, the highest rate since the first quarter of 2013.

“Clearly, some consumers are struggling to keep up with rising interest rates,” Joseph Kalish, Ned Davis chief global macro strategist, wrote in a Wednesday client note.

Rising delinquencies come as outstanding credit-card debt has reached a record of about $1.2 trillion this year, and the rate of interest being charged also has touched a record of about 23%, according to Deutsche Bank Research.

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