FOMC Minutes Show Concern That Markets Do Not Believe the Fed’s Resolve

Dot Plot of Fed Rate Hike Projections

FOMC Minutes

Let’s dive into Minutes of the Federal Open Market Committee December 13–14, 2022 for clues on what the Fed is thinking, emphasis mine.

Concern Over Misperceptions

Participants noted that, because monetary policy worked importantly through financial markets, an unwarranted easing in financial conditions, especially if driven by a misperception by the public of the Committee’s reaction function, would complicate the Committee’s effort to restore price stability.

Several participants commented that the medians of participants’ assessments for the appropriate path of the federal funds rate in the Summary of Economic Projections, which tracked notably above market-based measures of policy rate expectations, underscored the Committee’s strong commitment to returning inflation to its 2 percent goal.

Recession Risk

Many participants highlighted that the Committee needed to continue to balance two risks. One risk was that an insufficiently restrictive monetary policy could cause inflation to remain above the Committee’s target for longer than anticipated, leading to unanchored inflation expectations and eroding the purchasing power of households, especially for those already facing difficulty making ends meet.

The other risk was that the lagged cumulative effect of policy tightening could end up being more restrictive than is necessary to bring down inflation to 2 percent and lead to an unnecessary reduction in economic activity, potentially placing the largest burdens on the most vulnerable groups of the population.  

Inflation Risk Skewed to the Upside, Economy to Downside

 With inflation still elevated, the staff continued to view the risks to the inflation projection as skewed to the upside.

Moreover, the sluggish growth in real private domestic spending expected over the next year, a subdued global economic outlook, and persistently tight financial conditions were seen as tilting the risks to the downside around the baseline projection for real economic activity, and the staff still viewed the possibility of a recession sometime over the next year as a plausible alternative to the baseline.  

Participants generally noted that the uncertainty associated with their economic outlooks was high and that the risks to the inflation outlook remained tilted to the upside. Participants cited the possibility that price pressures could prove to be more persistent than anticipated, due to, for example, the labor market staying tight for longer than anticipated.  

Concern Over Stretched Budgets

In their discussion of the household sector, participants noted that growth in consumer spending in September and October had been stronger than they had previously expected, likely supported by a strong labor market and households running down excess savings accumulated during the pandemic. A couple of participants remarked that excess savings likely would continue to support consumption spending for a while.

A couple of other participants, however, commented that excess savings, particularly among low-income households, appeared to be lower and declining more rapidly than previously thought or that the savings, the majority of which appeared to be held by higher-income households, might continue to be largely unspent. Several participants remarked that budgets were stretched for low-to-moderate-income households and that many consumers were shifting their spending to less expensive alternatives.  

Concern Over Tight Labor Markets and Wage Growth

Participants observed that the labor market had remained very tight, with the unemployment rate near a historically low level, robust payroll gains, a high level of job vacancies, and elevated nominal wage growth. 

Participants noted that, in the latest inflation data, the pace of increase for prices of core services excluding shelter—which represents the largest component of core PCE price inflation—was high. They also remarked that this component of inflation has tended to be closely linked to nominal wage growth and therefore would likely remain persistently elevated if the labor market remained very tight.  

Jobs 

Some participants pointed out that payroll gains had remained robust even as they slowed in recent months. Nevertheless, they noted that some other measures of employment—such as those based on the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ household survey and the Quarterly Census of Employment and Wages—suggested that job growth in 2022 may have been weaker than indicated by payroll employment.  

In the context of achieving the Committee’s broad-based and inclusive maximum-employment goal, a number of participants commented that as the labor market moved into better balance, the unemployment rate for some demographic groups—particularly African Americans and Hispanics—would likely increase by more than the national average.  

Early Retirements

With the labor force participation rate little changed since the beginning of 2022, some participants commented that labor supply appeared to be constrained by structural factors such as early retirements, reduced availability or increased cost of childcare, more costly transportation, and reduced immigration.  

More Restrictive Stance Due to Uncertainty

In light of the heightened uncertainty regarding the outlooks for both inflation and real economic activity, most participants emphasized the need to retain flexibility and optionality when moving policy to a more restrictive stance.

Participants generally observed that a restrictive policy stance would need to be maintained until the incoming data provided confidence that inflation was on a sustained downward path to 2 percent, which was likely to take some time. In view of the persistent and unacceptably high level of inflation, several participants commented that historical experience cautioned against prematurely loosening monetary policy.  

The report is 12 pages long. The above snips are unmodified but they are not in order. I grouped the comments into categories of my bolded subtitles.

Some Fed comments echo many things I have written about recently. Here are some examples.

Age 16+ There are 158 Million People Working, 106 Million Not Working

On January 2, I noted Age 16+ There are 158 Million People Working, 106 Million Not Working

Key Age 16 and Over Stats

  • 158 million employed
  • 132 million usually working full time
  • 106 million not employed
  • 6 million unemployed

Gotta love this stat: 106 million people age 16 and over are not employed but only 6 million of them are unemployed. 

There are 22.7 million people of retirement age who are still working. At an increasing rate over time, these people will retire. Replaced by whom? At what levels of productivity?

By the end of the decade nearly all of this group will be retired. Who will support this group and increasing Medicare needs given the percentage of full time workers keeps dropping.

So yes, early retirement and boomer retirements are both in play and both contributing to the tight labor market. 

At the same time millions of others struggle to make ends meet.

Huge Temporary Growth in Gig Work to Make Ends Meet

Of those working, There’s a Huge Temporary Growth in Gig Work to Make Ends Meet

Nearly half of millennials agree or somewhat agree with the statement “I regularly run out of money and have to rely on credit cards or family for financial support.

The Philadelphia Fed Just Revised Jobs Lower by 1.2 Million for Q2

The Fed mentioned QCEW in its minutes. 

I wrote about that on December 16 in The Philadelphia Fed Just Revised Jobs Lower by 1.2 Million for Q2

The Philadelphia Fed does not believe the strong jobs growth. I have been talking about the discrepancy between jobs and employment for months.

Strong Jobs?

Please consider my December 2, 2022 post Another Strong Jobs Report? Phooey, and I Can Prove It

Payrolls vs Employment Since March 2022

  • Nonfarm Payrolls: +2,692,000
  • Employment Level: +12,000
  • Full Time Employment: -398,000

I have been rethinking this. 

Millions are retiring but millions of others are taking second part time jobs to make ends meet. So yes, we can be adding part time jobs while employment is stagnant. 

The Fed picked up on this, at least enough to mention. But I have been commenting along these lines for months.

Fed’s Clear Message

The Fed’s message is clear. 

The Fed is concerned over wage growth and persistent inflation more so than recession, stretched budgets, and the fact that housing and manufacturing that have both collapsed.

Meanwhile, ISM Manufacturing Now Signals Recession for the First Time in 30 Months

Good luck with this combination.

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david halte
david halte
1 year ago
Edit the gratuitous hyperbole –
… policy tightening could … lead to … reduction in economic activity … placing the largest burdens on the most vulnerable groups of the population.
… budgets were stretched for low-to-moderate-income households …
… the unemployment rate … particularly African Americans and Hispanics—would likely increase by more than the national average.
… savings, the majority of which appeared to be held by higher-income households, might continue to be largely unspent.
Abstract: The Fed’s 2 percent inflation, negative yield debt experiment, inflated asset values, predominantly held by higher-income households. The wealthy gained advantage on the way up, and hold advantage on the way down. The Fed can’t influence inflationary consumption by the wealthy, without detriment to the larger population of lower-income households.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Wall Street goes through a five-stage process during downturns: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance. Yes, I borrowed it from the five stages of grief after the loss of a loved one. I’d say Wall Street is currently in denial. Depression will set in when it is obvious the Fed can do nothing to stop the inevitable collapse..
Counter
Counter
1 year ago
That guy can lie with a straight face, and Yellen too. If he didn’t keep fidgeting with his glasses and not looking at people in the face it would be harder to tell. The only truthful thing he said was those at lower incomes are hit the hardest. So they must have thought people would be better off with higher grocery bills and inflation during a crisis
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago

The long delayed side effect of Bernanke caving in to the Taper Tantrum. He should have raised rates another step instead. Now the market doesn’t believe Powell. How long will Powell have to keep punching Mr Market in the face before there has been an attitude adjustment? Or will Powell be deposed first?

Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
I kind of like watching the punches, and the shocked, indignant response.
Jackula
Jackula
1 year ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
Exactly what I was gonna note … investors just can’t believe the FED doesn’t have their back now.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
i think the trailing 12 months has been the biggest and easiest GIMME in federal reserve interest rate tightening in history of this 3rd central bank of USA. and i see the way forward being pretty damn obvious too. they’ll tighten and when they do pause, will wait a long time for any loosening. on rates. not money supply. as a betting man, who has outstanding dozens of political bets at all times over the past 30 years, i would bet perhaps 6months, or less, before election day nov 2024 they might start cutting to help the god father be re elected.
tractionengine
tractionengine
1 year ago
This discussion about employment etc. covers one aspect of the government’s ability to spend. Government “income” is from taxes/tariffs/fees and debt, and both are related income tax on productive labor. Thus, for government, tax revenue and debt make the baseline – not employment. Fewer and fewer people are paying taxes yet there is more and more demand for government spending. (I have not figured out where inflation fits into this mix.)
This is not unique to the US.
The conclusion is obvious, the timing is not. I hope to be gone before then though.
amigator
amigator
1 year ago
Reply to  tractionengine
“from taxes/tariffs/fees and DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT/DEBT”
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
Claudia Sahm indicator reached (-)0.37 in Sept 2021, the lowest ever. Was underwater since Apr 2021, the tightest ever, for year and a half. It breached zero 3 months ago in Aug 2022. // In Nov 2021 it was (-) 0.33. The Nov 2022 it’s 0.07, up 0.4%. When the unemployment rate is up 0.5% above the lowest point in the last 12 months recession probability are Rising. // Today our labor force is different than the one in the 60’s and the 70’s. Globalization changed everything.
US co have R&D centers, cheaper engineers pyramids, workers, partners, contractors and subcontractors, tens of millions them, all over the world. Those, and those in the in the black market, go out first.
Claudia Sahm, stretching all the way to Jan 1960, might be outdated…
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
WWI was financed by Liberty bonds. In 1919 Liberty bonds became worthless. The 6Y Fed went bk.
JeffD
JeffD
1 year ago
If they really meant business, then they would have no reason to be concerned what markets think.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  JeffD
The Fed’s true purpose was, is and always will be: make sure the US Treasury can issue debt.
That’s why the Fed was created on the eve of WW1. Its why it exists today.
The Fed is concerned about the ability to finance trillions in deficit spending; and for that they need markets.
If… *when* inflation spikes, that is a problem for the middle class. The bankers dont care as long as they get their bonuses. The federal government doesn’t care as long as they can sell more and more debt.
Mish has a childish, idealistic, academic understanding of markets. And when the &*() hits the fan, things get real. High minded, virtue signaling nonsense gets discarded.
The Fed is following their primary purpose: make sure the market for US Treasuries is always open.
Inflation and employment are secondary, no matter what the textbooks say.
billybobjr
billybobjr
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
Yea agree and that means the Government never has to make the hard choices and they haven’t in a long time .
It seems to me that creates less efficiency and a loss of productivity and that is what we are seeing . Around
me there is simply no job shortages on the horizon everyone I know could find a job tomorrow . Also inflation has not slowed
milk just went from 1.82 to 2.99 that is reality .
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
the FEDRES of NY, is a privately owned entity. the FED in DC is quasi public supposed to be independent, with government oversight. THE NY FED IS WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. and she is private. owned by the bankers, created by the bankers. with various shareholder classes to virtue signal to AFLCIO big labor etc………. the rest of your stuff i concur. mish might be very naive and maybe arrogant, but i think he is tremendous and i tip my hat to him for trying to publicly plow through all this garbage. why i keep extending my eyeballs and input. his r/e analysis is A plus material. for a very long time in long multi cycles……..
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
“One risk was that an insufficiently restrictive monetary policy could cause inflation to remain above the Committee’s target for longer than anticipated”
Let’s be absolutely clear about this point. Inflation WILL remain well above the Fed’s inflation target core PCE inflation of 2% until there’s at least a moderate recession brought on by a rise in unemployment above 5% for no less than 18 months. Without such an event, there will not be sufficient demand destruction of labor, oil, services, manufacturing, etc. The Federal government has appropriated trillions of $$$ that will stoke inflation through the next 2-3 years.
And ISM can signal recession all it wants, but without significant job losses, we’re not going to enter a recession. Unless Friday’s jobs report shows deterioration of the labor market, a softening labor market seems nowhere to be found.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  worleyeoe
Mish really betrayed his naivety on the Fed when he brought up inflation (or employment).
A government that intends to run multi-trillion dollar deficits as far as the eye can see must be able to issue new debt. Period.
Everything else is secondary. No one cares what the textbooks say. The textbooks were written by people who can’t function off campus. The law doesn’t matter, because the law depends on the government’s ability to exist — to fund its deficits.
Financing endless deficits is all that matters now.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
Other than the Fed taking up oodles of US Govt faux debt, I don’t see anyone else rushing forward. It appears Russia and China (and other BRICS) are divesting, and the EU and Britain have their own problems…
Wait; I’ve got the solution. Require all 401Ks to hold 25% Federal debt, for risk reduction, of course.
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
And the old saying goes, “Don’t fight the Fed.” Here’s a new version: “Don’t fight Congress.”
Totally agree about trillions in deficits for out as far as the eye can see. That’s a lot of baked in stimulus that everyone knows will prop up inflation for years to come. So combining massive, continued government spending (really at all levels) with no recession in sight, how in the world is the Fed going to get away with not raising the FFR up to at least 7% or more?
We’re 12 months into rising 30YFRM’s and I read today that 42% of all how homes sold had at least one concession? How in the world isn’t that state something like 98% of all homes sold had at least 5 concessions?
I agree. We can throw all the textbooks out the window at this point. Even Volcker might question his resolve to tame the inflation we’re seeing today. It’s batsh!t crazy out there.
randocalrissian
randocalrissian
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
Can’t wait for the “moving decimal game.”
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
It really does feel like we are in the final 2 innings of the end of the financial system. Even Japan has hiked rates. There is literally no way out
given the debt in the system. It was a tractable problem in 2000 but the off the books spending of two wars which was then brought onto the books in 2009 is what really made it grow exponentially along with everything else that came after (financial crisis, covid and rising medical costs).
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
7M men from 25-54 have effectively given up on their lives. My guess is a good chunk of them want to overthrow the government and are armed and ready.
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Out of 328 million is that a lot.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
There are about 165 million who are working and 7 million who are not. Of the 7 million we have most who are not working because they have given up but for reasons that are understandable and valid. I doubt if the 165 million who are working will allow the much less than 7 million to destroy their livelihoods through violence. Generally those who have given up on their lives are not the more ambitious or dynamic individuals and are hard to organize and motivate. The danger doesn’t come from them but from those who are ambitious, dynamic and have sources of money and who want to overthrow the system for ideological reasons.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
“The danger doesn’t come from them but from those who are ambitious,
dynamic and have sources of money and who want to overthrow the system
for ideological reasons.”
Klaus Schwab and the Young Leaders of the WEF. You will own nothing and be happy.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78
The basic motivators:
Cold.
Hunger.
See also: Ukraine.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Danger and fear is a big motivator.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
The loser revolution
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
That’s what the French aristocracy thought too, right up to the point their heads came off. The Brits did better, they kept their heads and only lost a colony.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
Their losers weren’t 75lbs overweight. There aren’t enough mobility scooters to sustain this revolution.
footwedge
footwedge
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Ah, the Little Rascal revolution!
Rbm
Rbm
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
You forgot video games / cheap porn and weed.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
The Feds resolve will prove to be “transitory”,
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
The FedReserve has lost one of its knobs, selling bonds it holds. It does not have enough bonds marked to market to sell at a profit. It would become insolvent if it tried to sell enough bonds to drive interest rates higher. Letting bonds mature without purchasing new ones won’t raise rates fast enough / mop up liquidity.
Ironically, raising interest rates may have less inflation fighting power than thought. Investors and depositors are starting to buy more US bonds because a small gain from bonds held to maturity has less risk than buying stocks the FedReserve vows to sacrifice. The government then spends the money, perpetuating inflation. Eventually the feedback loop will weaken, but most not likely in the time-frame the FedReserve wants.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
doesn’t selling bonds lower yields?
I think rising rates have less power because, one, businesses can pass the costs on in prices at the moment. And two, higher rates means more cash being paid to bondholders. There are a lot of bondholders now. It is not a trivial cash flow back into the economy.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
I think the fed can be insolvent. It seems like the magical black hole all our broken economic math is swept into, and transformed into fedspace, where fed math applies
Debt goes in, cash comes out… and why not? We are the dreamers of the dreams!
worleyeoe
worleyeoe
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
The Fed isn’t going to sell bonds or MBS anytime soon. And the Fed can sell bonds at a loss for a very long time, because it can’t go insolvent. Any losses booked just means they won’t remit profits back to the treasury until rates eventually fall and they start turning a profit again.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
per shadow stats, the money supply is continuing to increase, and even the FED is in fact NOT tapering. their 3 card monty game is basically a farce, that NONE of us can see the hidden ping pong ball in their shirt sleeve they stick under the cup. anyone who thinks they can see these guys transparently and think they are fools, is really the fool. like the innocent tourist being fleeced by what looks like a dumb uneducated street “kid”. who has pick pockets and shills roaming among the tourists. this ain’t rocket science as they say. it’s flim flammery.
8dots
8dots
1 year ago
The Dow might plot a new all time high, but SPX & NDX might not. What will the Fed plot be.
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Concern Over Stretched Budgets?
So the Fed wants us to stop spending but they don’t want to mention starting to pay down the National Debt of $32T.
Seems to me the only way out of this is to automate government.
Start with publicly tracking every dollar in the government and allow all contracts to be available online. Next, in order for anyone to run for office, they must submit the last 10 years of taxes. After any politician gets into office, any amount of income over the highest amount of annual salary they earned while in office will be taxed at 50%.
hhabana
hhabana
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
Billy, you get it. Years ago when Greenspan was Fed Chairman, he made a comment at some committee meeting regarding spending. Do you notice that these Fed Chairman never state the obvious? What is even more amazing are the financial pundits who somehow forgetfully mention this. Do they run their lives like this? Most likely not and they are aware of borrowing/debt limits, but they continually never mention unlimited spending by State and Federal governments.
It is not going to end well especially since the American and Western Governments (of course with encouragement from American govt) are sanctioning, and confiscating assets of anyone they disagree with. The transition will be slow, but will pick up pace.
It’s just a matter of time that this house of cards falls down and I say “Hallelujah.”
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
Reply to  hhabana
It’s no wonder how our politicians continue to stay in office when 9 people out of 10 have a blank stare when I bring this up.
I hate to say this but one way to shift the attention from a house of cards falling is a world war or a pandemic that wipes out 25%+ of the world’s population.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
george santos will certainly comply. and i’ll be starting QB for NFL and center field for Yankees next season, too. after i sell out MSG in my rock concert headline guitar and vocals.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy
No, anyone elected to office should be taxed at least 125%, probably more.
These guys/gals spend millions and millions to get elected.
They can afford it.
Might reduce their time in office too; might be better than term limits.
Directed Energy
Directed Energy
1 year ago
I think it’s good for a while for the housing market to cool down in some cities, but I don’t think by any means that the government will let the housing market tank. They will start lowering rates again in a couple of years and mortgage rates will eventually go back down. Just like the 40 year trend line
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
Housing prices may drop, but I doubt you see many foreclosures Not any market tanking around me that i can tell.
hhabana
hhabana
1 year ago
Reply to  xbizo
This real estate dropping like bombs is pure BS. I’m a landlord and can attest to the zip codes I follow (where I have properties) are not decreasing by much. Not anywhere near the crash starting in 2007-2008 and for the several after. Some price decreases, but things are still selling and prices high.
I spoke to an Indian friend of mine and ask him regarding the Indians he knows and if they have stopped buying. Nope! They are making money thru their tech jobs and have accumulated money thru stock options, decent paying jobs, etc and the community he lives in which is a large suburb outside Sacramento is building new homes like crazy. This talk of dropping real estate prices is just pure BS. IDK, maybe some specific places where there is out of control crime and homelessness, things have become less appealing. A lot of times, your own two eyes are the best analyst.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  hhabana
i agree about one’s 2 eyes in local r/e markets. my take is phoenix is plunging fast. same with LA and inner city BAY area SF and oakland……….here in NYC, it’s softening prices, but very slow and muted and only around 5 to 10% in hoods i watch real close and invest. in all of aforementioned locales over the decades. i’ve lost my eyes on ground in charleston SC which i knew well for 25 years. i’m gonna reach out to my old pals down there.
Webej
Webej
1 year ago
Millions with full-time jobs and benefits are retiring; in their place will come precarious part-time ephemeral engagements featuring precarious productivity and ephemeral commitments … as managers try to figure out why they aren’t getting more despite cutting costs.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
I expect the Fed pause to come when the inflation rate and the fed funds rate cross, making the fed funds real rate zero. Rates don’t head back down until the yield curve has turned positive, increasing positive returns as you go out in time.
Market should drop this year on earnings misses. I think multiple compression for S&P 500 continues as long term growth rate is lowered to 1% in Wall Street models over the next six months.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Oh I believe the Fed’s resolve, I just don’t believe they will ever contain inflation to their targets because of the demographic challenges: aging population, not enough young people to back fill, lack of immigration reform, energy challenges, education in horrific mess and 8 billion people wanting a taste of the good life.
My investment strategy right now is to ladder 17-week T-bills at 30k/week. I’m earning 4.5% in safe and secure government backed debt. At some point, the market is gonna get mega whacked by the Fed. Around May, I may start laddering 20 year bonds if the rate is right.
JeffD
JeffD
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
By May, long rates will have fallen, not risen. The time to buy long bonds came and went.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  JeffD
We’ll see. I expect inflation to go out of control again later this year.
xbizo
xbizo
1 year ago
So the Fed throws a recession party and no one shows up because they get another job somewhere else….
And yet malls around here are full of shoppers. Was as busy as the week before Christmas last week. Must be all that excess ‘savings’ from the pandemic sloshing around.
Gas prices are down though…
Dubronik
Dubronik
1 year ago
Reply to  xbizo
Or maybe people went back to return the unwanted gifts for cash…..
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Dubronik
Buy stuff for gift cards before prices increase like in Weimar republic.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Dubronik
Or shoplift some to boost on eBay.
hhabana
hhabana
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Yes, you can steal up to $950 in California and walk out the door. A very common practice. Might be seeing more of this if inflation gets even worse.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  hhabana
Only do that with the big chain stores.
If you try that in a Korean neighborhood you might get a behind full of buckshot.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
This doubt, wouldn’t have anything to do with the credibility they have earned, would it?
TheWindowCleaner
TheWindowCleaner
1 year ago
Genuine paradigm changes are PERMANENT. That is historically confirmable. Everything adapts to a new paradigm, NOT the other way around. Republicans, democrats, libertarians and even the Stupid caucus want big change. It’s just that they have not figured out how to actually accomplish it in a way that integrates the best of the agendas of the opposing right/left duality. The new monetary paradigm and its major policies does so in spades.
I like Mish. He’s very, very astute regarding the operations of the current economy within the present paradigm of Debt Only. Way back in 2007 I realized that his prediction that we were headed for a big housing deflation and so I was able to sell our Mexican condo at the top of the market. So we can often heed his advice…but his advice as well as anyone else’s that doesn’t confront the necessity of a new monetary paradigm…will never permanently resolve the major problems of modern profit-making economies. You have to find a way to temporally implement the new paradigm concept in such a way that it serves its historically verifiable integrative of opposites phenomenon. In the interests of the economy, the nation and every individual and commercial economic agent in it I would love to have an honest, informed and non-insulting discussion here with Mish on the policies of the new paradigm.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
I like Mish and appreciate this forum he provides for discussions.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
wonderfully insightful comment. i’ve had the same thoughts about this blog. i tip my hat toward mish as he did help me sell at top of last r/e cycle and i thus was able to buy at botton and just sold again. his blog was a nice addition to my other main sources of market analysis on r/e like local ear to the ground as i’ve always done, plus the economist newspaper which really is the best paper to synthesize very complicated economics topics into clear eyed presentation that i can comprehend in my hard copy each week.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
A new paradigm adapts to everything.

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