Got COIN? I Hope Not. Coinbase Plunges, Extends Loss After Hours

Hoot of the Day 

There was stiff competition from President Biden on inflation, but I saved my Hoot of the Day award expecting a more solid performance somewhere. 

Coinbase says 

  • The future of money is here
  • Over 98 million people and businesses trust us to buy, sell, and manage crypto.
  • From Bitcoin to Dogecoin, we make it easy to buy and sell cryptocurrency. Protect your crypto with best in class cold storage.

10-Q 

Coinbase’s latest 10-Q shows Coinbase lost $1.98 per share. Analysts expected a loss of $0.01 per share. 

Let’s also take a peek at the Shareholder Letter.

Shareholder Letter 

Coinbase Metrics from Shareholder Letter

What a Disaster  

My hoot of the day is Coinbase lost 2.2 million users yet bragged about advertising. 

Our first ever Super Bowl ad was successful in driving awareness of and promoting the Coinbase brand. Our Super Bowl ad “Less Talk, More Bitcoin” reached over 40 million U.S. households, had tens of millions of social mentions, and resulted in significant improvements in our brand awareness, favorability, and consideration, among our target audience.  

Derivatives 

In February, 4e acquired FairX, a regulated crypto derivatives exchange. Through this acquisition 4e plan to bring a range of crypto derivatives to market to Coinbase customers in the U.S.

Staking 

What can possibly be more exciting than derivatives on one of the most volatile of asset classes? 

But hold on, you can also pledge your Bitcoin to “staking” and receive “rewards” for doing so.

Rewards are calculated based on the amount of the cryptocurrency you hold in that particular wallet. Meaning, the more you hold of the cryptocurrency, the more Coinbase can stake on your behalf; and the more potential rewards you receive.

Who in their right mind wouldn’t want to give Coinbase the right to stake their assets?

You can also earn rewards simply by buying and holding dollar-pegged stablecoins like Dai and USD Coin (USDC). And of course everyone knows stablecoins are very stable. 

If staking stablecoins isn’t free money, what is? 

Coinbase Company Highlights 

To offer all these phenomenal services, Coinbase employs over 4,900.  

Coinbase offers these amusing anecdotes on employee productivity. 

Our investment in our business now is especially critical – these periods of low volatility can provide the opportunity to focus more intently on product development (as opposed to peak periods, when we are more focused on meeting high demand). We approach the opportunities ahead with confidence and steady hands.  

Low volatility? 

Coinbase must mean low transactions, not volatility. Fortunately, they have steady hands. 

Coinbase (COIN) Weekly Chart 

Coinbase (Coin) weekly chart courtesy of StockCharts.Com

With all this going for it, you might be wondering if Coinbase has done a moonshot. 

Alas, I am saddened to report that taking into consider after hours action, COIN is down 83%. 

Millennial Margin Call

What Happens in Bankruptcy?

I received that telepathic question moments ago, and it’s a good one. (Actually Nick Winkler commented on it on Twitter). 

Let’s tune into the 10-Q for the answer.

Because custodially held crypto assets may be considered to be the property of a bankruptcy estate, in the event of a bankruptcy, the crypto assets we hold in custody on behalf of our customers could be subject to bankruptcy proceedings and such customers could be treated as our general unsecured creditors. This may result in customers finding our custodial services more risky and less attractive and any failure to increase our customer base, discontinuation or reduction in use of our platform and products by existing customers as a result could adversely impact our business, operating results, and financial condition. 

Winkler says that statement is a recent addition.

If you still have your coins on these exchanges after reading this, you are only nuts. 

Oh wait, I forgot about benefits of derivatives and ability to stake assets to Coinbase so they can do god only know what with them. 

Meet Alleged Stablecoin TerraUSD, Now in a Potential Death Spiral

In case you missed it please see my take on stablecoins.

Meet Alleged Stablecoin TerraUSD, Now in a Potential Death Spiral

I discuss stablecoins with a spotlight on TerraUSD, allegedly pegged to a US dollar.

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Karlmarx
Karlmarx
3 years ago
Amazing. Their 10q states in no uncertain terms that the company is a ponzi scheme.
FooFooFed
FooFooFed
3 years ago
A friend of mine mingled with an executive at coin base last year and was going on about the private planes they had and the salaries…..hahahahaha.
Ppl are like fish, put a shiny object in front of them and the follow it. Im just waiting for the next Bernie Madoff to be flush out of the wood work.
370/share to 70/share hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
In actuality, they are ALL nothing but gambling tokens.
Many people will learn this fact the hard way.
PreCambrian
PreCambrian
3 years ago
I think that I will transfer my BTC and ETH at Coinbase to a hard wallet. It is time that I learned how anyway.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reminds me of early 2000. When markets tank, people dump their crap first. Like internet companies shipping 50 lb bags of dog food for free that cost less than what retailers charge at the store. How can they make money?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Obviously they make up for the unit losses by selling in volume.
Kinda like the US government.
RykO
RykO
3 years ago
Reply to Mish on securities
Ripple says “Tell that to the SEC”
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Coinbase must mean low transactions, not volatility
No Mish. When you’re gambling, transactions and volatility are the same thing !
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
3 years ago
What you have stored at Coinbase is not really yours? Makes one wonder how secure a brokerage account is from disappearing if the brokerage goes belly up. As a brokerage goes belly up, it might look reeeeal hard for some cash to keep it afloat.
Carl_R
Carl_R
3 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
With Brokerages, there is SIPC insurance. I am not aware of any BIPC (Bitcoin Investor Protection Corporation).
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
Securities are protected. Cryptos are not securities.
brainy
brainy
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
with cryptos – I never understood, how this Ponzi-scheme ever could be ‘legalized’ in this way 🙂
Ponzi-schemes are extremely profitable – if you joined early enough – and up to the penultimate ‘revolution’ (or ’round’).
(of course, nobody except the insiders know, when the penultimate round has started)
Then – the insiders dump – distribute the bags to the bagholders – and leave.
Whether such companies like Coinbase (and their insiders) – can ‘leave’ in an easy and legal way – no idea. But it’ll be funny to see….

Reminds me to the dot-com bubble-crash … – and the subprime-bubble-crash.
Everyone still pumps stuff up on TV, but the insiders have already cashed out 🙂 — Buy the-dip – and the bags…

PreCambrian
PreCambrian
3 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
Customer accounts at brokerages are segregated from the firm or at least are supposed to be. Therefore they are not affected by a brokerage bankruptcy. When MF Global went bankrupt in 2011 it had transferred $700 million from customer accounts to the house accounts in an attempt to avert bankruptcy. Remember Jon Corzine? The SIPC stepped in on that one. Corzine claimed no knowledge.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
Gee.
Can you spell MF Global?
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
It’s all about entry and exit points. I bought back my Apple naked puts, made 50% on the bounce. I then went long Apple and bought 1000 at $154.50 and sold the Friday May 13 $157.5 strikes for $2.00. If this works out it’ll be about $6k for the week on Apple. Yeah, it’s been a slow week.
As for digital currencies, I may buy GBTC if it goes below $15 and hold long term or until it hits $40ish or so. I’ve never liked any of the digital currencies except the original bitcoin.
Lots of money to be made out there in good times and bad….
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
If you are lucky.
Me, I prefer the horses and poker.
It’s more fun and the people are nicer.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
3 years ago
With all these shocks to kleptocurrency, support for a digital US dollar will erode.
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
When is the flight to quality going to start – money going into Treasuries and bringing yields down? I bought a brokered 5-year CD a year ago, and I find myself down… 8.5% That is terrible. Of course, I can hold it all the way to maturity but in the interim, I can’t bear to see a “safe” CD being down that much.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Why don’t you head over to Treasury Direct and buy i-Bond yielding 9.6%? I maxed out an account, my spouse’s account and getting my kids in on the action. The max is 10k per person.
Freebees2me
Freebees2me
3 years ago
All I can say is I’m glad I don’t understand this stuff.
Sat on a plane next to a Virtual currency “lobbyist” not long ago. I asked this person what I thought was a fairly simple question: what happens if the government cut off access to my bitcoin account. They said: the government would never do that. I then asked, what would happen if the “wallet company” I was using cut off my access? They said that also would never happen.
Of course, no guarantees in life, but it was clear this whole system is built on trust in players that are not trustworthy.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Freebees2me
I don’t know if they are trustworthy or not.
The real question is how naive they are to how the real world works. Coinbase is probably run be people who’ve never run a large corporation before and have no idea what they are doing beyond the initial idea to create Coinbase. Every idea is being tried without regard to whether or not it’s a good one or not for customers. Hence people are putting their trust in things that aren’t proven or reliable.
SAKMAN1
SAKMAN1
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Things that arent proven or reliable arent trustworthy. Its like these people have given their money to a zero feedback ebay seller. . . and ebay cancelled its buyer protection.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
A Coinbase account and a crypto account aren’t the same thing. Coinbase keeps your currency in their crypto accounts. People allow it because they don’t understand they can keep their own accounts without involving Coinbase at all.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Freebees2me
Unless they shut down the internet, they can’t take your access away.

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