Hegseth is a war criminal, but this is a good outcome. 
I consider this a good outcome but the title is wrong. Democrats failed to show up for the vote.
Formal Investigation Is Better
It is certain that Hegseth will either be impeached, resign, or be fired.
I strongly prefer a formal investigation of war crimes instead of Massie’s fast revenge attack.
What Happened?
Question of the Day
On November 9, I asked Rep. Massie Forces a Vote to Impeach Hegseth. Is this a Mistake?
A vote will be fast because of the Privileged Vote method Massie used.
Mish Assessment
Hegseth is a war criminal who belongs in prison. But Hegseth will never go to prison because Trump would pardon him.
Trying impeachment now is a low-probability path to actual removal and carries the usual risks of a rushed, highly partisan-looking process in a lame-duck period. Massie has a score to settle, and that is how Republicans will portray it.
Assuming impeachment, a trial in the Senate would fail this year, with a decent chance of no vote at all. It might ruin the chances with the incoming Senate. It gives the easy excuse to the next set of Senators to say, we already tried this once.
There could be some Senate Republican votes now (Senator Rand Paul and Thom Tillis immediately come to mind). However, I suspect we would not find out because Majority Leader Thune would not even hold a trial.
The majority leader (Thune) controls the floor schedule. A simple majority can sustain motions to dismiss, table, or otherwise dispose of the articles without a lengthy trial.
All things considered, if the goal is maximizing the chance of a serious impeachment effort that could conceivably pressure for removal or produce a fuller record, waiting for the new Congress is the stronger procedural path.
Next year, there would be a near-certainty of a trial (or at least some process other than outright dismissal), with a much better chance of success. At a minimum, there would be better records and grounds for impeachment with potentially damaging revelations that could force Hegseth to resign.
The clearest advantage to wait (assuming a conventional inquiry instead of a Privileged Vote) is the incoming majority can produce a fuller evidentiary record, public hearings, and potentially damaging revelations that are harder to dismiss and more capable of shifting political costs inside the administration.
Just Following Orders
Trump is not going to like that, increasing the odds Hegseth is fired.
If Only
Challenge Accepted
Blaming Hegseth
Seldom Agree With Cruz, But He’s Right Here
Delayed Impeachment Is a Good Outcome
Precisely My Opinion – Stated In Advance
Investigate everything!
11 democrats didn’t vote.
all funded by Aipac.
it shows how big of a threat the democrats really think maga is.
how many more people will Pete get to murder because these 11 couldn’t be bothered to vote against their paymasters? 3 months more of murder in our name, thanks dems!
Microsoft, META and Oracle sold $75 billion in securities in four days…
Dilution is the solution to pollution of circular finance?
Darn and damn those democrats how can you miss an important vote like that aarg! Thatz why so many of us vote 3rd party or not at all. That hooverian dirtbag can still cause lots of problems even a ceremonial impeachment would have been a big embarrassment
Impeach hegseth again asap
3-star Mishelin award for being the crusader for justice. In 53 days, the dems take over Congress and justice will be served.
Nikki Haley was on CNBC this morning talking about how outraged she was of ICE’s tactics and how her party is the party of fiscal responsibility. Double lol.
They asked her why she didn’t speak up and said some people speak privately. Lol.
Team players are always dishonest. Haley reflects the attitudes of bureaucrats, pols, military lifers. They are suck up artists and inherently dishonest. I’d rather have a beer with a cowboy any day.
If Dems in Congress re-elect Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jefferies as their leaders, it will be business as usual. Hakeem could have impeached Hegseth, but somehow couldn’t get the people he leads to show up for work.
I think that’s a foregone conclusion, different actors, same soap opera or perhaps different crew, same Titanic. “This ship can’t sink!”
“She’s made of iron sir, I assure you she can and she will, it is a mathematical certainty.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP7BWb1ndpA
There’s still a few lifeboats left, who’s going to get on them?
Painfully this shows that the Rapeublicans are lockstep in their collusion with the Pedophile in chief.
They do not care about the election results, our nations founding principals of Liberty and Justice For All, or, for that matter, The Geneva Convention.
What does it say about the Democrats, who could have stopped the Republicans but didn’t care enough about the election results, Liberty and Justice, or the Geneva Convention to oppose the Rapeublicans by showing up at work to do their job?
Hegseth’s Pathetic Defense
https://daniellarison.substack.com/p/hegseths-pathetic-defense
What a shame, I was looking forward to an appropriate punishment, maybe a public hanging live streamed on the net. I’m very disappointed in all this.
I strongly disagree that this is a good outcome. What kind of extensive investigation needs to be done to figure out whether or not Hegseth went to war without Congress’s approval? Meanwhile we leave a psychopath in charge of a Department of War, who continues to unapologetically kill people for ‘crimes’ with no evidence.
Obviously the Democrat politicians don’t care what their voters want, they don’t care enough about the voters to make the effort to actually go to their workplace and vote to remove the one leading the Department of War.
I am absolutely disappointed and disgusted.
you my friend nailed it. but alas we live in a violent warmongering imperial worldwide arrogant and nihilist country of cunts. so that is who we all elect as our representatives of the people. alas, as i repeat and only my intellectually honest friends and family understand. democracy works. always has. always will. look at an old school yearbook and count the assholes. will be north of 95%. just like their grandmas and great great grandpas. long live the empire.
I generally agree with you on this view, but in this case the American people don’t want this war and want it ended now. A Reuters poll just published yesterday says 71% of Americans (including 93% of Democrats and 51% of Republicans) want Congress to pass legislation ending the Iran war. Congress just doesn’t care. Especially galling when team Blue gets a massive mandate and they shrug and say “I’m too busy”.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2026/11/10/most-americans-want-new-democratic-congress-to-end-trumps-iran-war-poll-finds/
if that was the case, why did the people’s representatives not impeach. it’s really not complicated. the only poll that matters is the mechanism called democracy. philosophy drives politics which drives policy. the people’s philosophy is vastly majority warmongering cunts. you just need to face this reality. or not. make believe democracy does NOT work. and make excuses. over 2000 years of history says that is what the greeks called, “idiotes”. look up what that originally meant.
I have to agree that ultimately you are right. If people actually cared, all of those who voted to table this bill or who didn’t show up to oppose it would be primaried before the next election. That won’t happen because voters just don’t care enough.
Judge Mischiepoo says so
“We didnt have the votes.” Blah blah.
Sunday after Sunday, football teams have to play teams they have little to no hope of beating. But you show up and play hard. Especially when the stakes are high and people are starting to actually root for you to beat the dynasty team.
The majority of fans want dethkeg fired. Anyone standing in the way will piss off fans more. D’s should make hay of this.
> how Republicans will portray it.
Let them try. Right now, the election shows fans are sick of Team R. Fans won’t care how the R’s try to portray it.
Amusing that Nancy Pelosi was one of those who was too busy to be there for the vote
>> … Pete Hegseth ordered military members to an area in Kuwait with an ACTIVE WARNING they had ZERO defense against drone attacks and he IGNORED IT. … Six were then KILLED.
I think it’s hard to prosecute and remove dethkeg for sending soldiers into risky combat situations. (Even small arms sometimes work against drones.). Going after him for this would be lower than going after Capone for tax evasion. I hope that’s the least of the charges.
The Democrats already decided not to show up? Literally, figuratively, or both?
apparently the 11 democrats couldn’t make it on time due to a car accident.
it seems a large pallet of aipac cash fell on their car causing a delay.
An impeachment is not a pardon and does not preclude subsequent investigation and prosecution for crimes.
I prefer removing bad actors immediately from power. As he stays in office, he will either cause more damage or will destroy evidence.