The Wall Street Journal reports Polish Nationalist Youth March Draws Thousands in Capital.
Tens of thousands of Poles marched across downtown Warsaw on Saturday, in an independence-day procession organized by a nationalist youth movement that seeks an ethnically pure Poland with fewer Jews or Muslims.
The largely young crowd shot off roman candles and many chanted “fatherland,” carrying banners that read “White Europe,” “Europe Will Be White” and “Clean Blood.” Some of the marchers flew in from Hungary, Slovakia and Spain and waved flags and symbols that those countries used during their wartime collaboration with Nazi Germany.
The Radical Camp has been holding independence-day marches since 2009. Until several years ago, it struggled to attract more than a few hundred people. In the past three years, it has become the largest independence-day occasion in Poland, and one of the largest nationalist marches of its kind anywhere in Europe. Saturday’s was expected to be the largest ever. Police estimated the crowd at 60,000.
The group holds a staunch nativist standpoint, saying the European Union and Russia represent equal threats to Polish sovereignty. It argues that Polish people should nationalize the assets belonging to foreign corporations and distribute the profits across an ethnically homogenous state
On Saturday, Polish state television called the procession a “great march of patriots.
Slogans
The group has regularly held events to mark a 1936 pogrom against Jews. Its symbols were displayed on a banner that appeared over a Warsaw bridge, reading: “Pray for Islamic Holocaust.”
This year, the group said it was adopting a new slogan, a quote from a July speech here by President Donald Trump : “We want God.”
We Want God
Extremists everywhere wants God, as long as it’s their God.
Major Religions
In the name of God and religious purity, it makes perfect sense for Protestants to detest Catholics, and Sunnis to behead Shiites.
So let there be a Holocaust for the Shiites, the Sunnis, the Jews, the Protestants, the Buddhists, the Catholics, and the Hinduists. Of course, you get to leave your religion out of the Holocaust group.
Heaven forbid the atheists take over and put an end to religious wars. God, whatever he, she, or it may or may not be, surely would not want that.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Make a list of the greatest mass murderers of the 20th Century and make a list of the most well known Socialist leaders. The lists will be pretty much the same.
Most of the tens of millions murdered in the blood bath called the 20th century were victims of atheist socialism. Most religions at some level denounce killing. Socialists only do what is expedient without regard to individual rights or human life.
This is sad to see, but certainly predictable. Minorities in worsening economic times are oppressed. Loading millions of Muslims into Europe is a huge error.
\\Heaven forbid the atheists take over and put an end to religious wars.\\
Like they did in China, Cambodia, and the USSR. Great call.
Considering that violence originated from a wide range of religious and atheistic groups in the last century–one could argue with some merit that violence against other groups is a group phenomena (or trait inherent in human kind). A notable exception are groups where non-violence is part of the identity: Quakers, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-Day Adventists for example.
Mish’s particular statement about atheists putting an end to religious is indeed jaw-dropping. I post this reluctantly because I’ve been a personal recipient of Mish’s generosity with his time and advice, so will only say (besided “thank you Mish!”) that various scholars have discredited the popular myth about religion and violence. William Cavanaugh wrote a superb book that eviscerates the idea, and Karen Armstrong (no conservative she), probably borrowing from Cavanaugh’s work, published this excellent piece in The Guardian that sheds a great deal of light on this topic. The Myth of Religious Violence — https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/25/-sp-karen-armstrong-religious-violence-myth-secular
“Heaven forbid the atheists take over and put an end to religious wars.” Lenin, Stalin, and Mao already tried that but it did not work out well for peace. The problem is not religion, it is not Atheism, and it is not Agnostics. The problem is evil people who hate others. As soon as people realize that humans love power and control, maybe we can stop blaming the wrong thing and point the finger where it belongs; at the people who attack others.
Mish like CNN. In other words Mish sees what he wants to see.
Globalists need to put integration plans on hold until people are ready to mingle peacefully. again.
Hard to say from afar how prevalent these views are in Poland. Every country has its own particular brand of fringe ideologists of every stripe. If they acquire a critical mass, well, there’s one more problem for the EU. There is some kind of nationalist backlash almost everywhere you look. States are pushing back against globalization and globalization is not there yet in terms or providing separatists and other malcontents with a real alternative to old fashioned statehood, while on the other hand states are in bad shape which will be getting worse with demographic and economic changes. I would love to know what the world is going to look like once this process is complete, but it may take decades and we may see more of the nasty side of nationalism for decades to come.
I guess Israel is the only country allowed to be racist/tribal.
So Mish, I guess next time you will also copy-&-paste WSJ “wisdoms” such as “Gold being fake money” or “bailouts doing good for the EU”.. what a level you reached with this post? I guess a level of an every day American thinking WWII is some kind of a wrong URL.
I’m Polish, but an expat, and I’ve been reading the press about this in both English and Polish. I’m very disappointed with the western media’s coverage of this protest. First off, yes, there were nazis, racists and their ilk present, in the same way that happens in the right marches elsewhere in the world, they were a fringe part, but that’s what the western media is showing as representative. These people numbered hundreds among the tens of thousands, so calling it a anti-Jewish, white supremacist rally is disingenuous. The Polish media is awful too, by the way, much of which is controlled by the state, which is currently nationalist, so the state sanctioned coverage is generally supportive and completely dismissive of this fringe element.
This is the seventh year this march is happening, the Polish organization around it is called “Marsz Niepodległości” – you can Google that. It means Independence March, and has a theme each year. This year’s theme was “We want God”. I’m not a supporter of this march, because it is organized by two nationalist youth organizations. One of these formed after the fall of Communism in early 90’s and the other one is more recent. These are people who do not want European integration, want Polish sovereignty, and are very much against the recent wave of refugees. You can see how it’s easy for the fringe to align with that.
Polish people, generally, are extremely nationalist. It comes from generations of being subjugated by Germans and Soviets and Nov 11th celebrates Poland’s independence in 1918. Before 1918, Poland didn’t exist as a country, it was carved up by other countries which tried to eliminate the Polish culture, then the Nazis came in and killed half the country and all the Jews, then the Soviets came in and tried to destroy religion. Before WWII, Poland had a large Jewish Population, large Catholic population, and small Russian Orthodox population. The Nazis wiped out the Jews, then the Soviets tried to eliminate religion, because their one religion is the State, so Polish people held onto Catholicism as a way of resisting the Soviets, and now you have a religious, mostly Catholic country. So, people are raised being constantly told about Poland’s victim status, and how some group which destroyed the country in the past is trying to do it again, so you get rabid Nationalism, but of the form that Poland must remain a nation, independent, and religious.
Anyhow, this is a long rant, but I hate the media which has been lying about all of this.
The MSM is committed to branding all forms of nationalism as racist. This is a particular problem for europe because ALL european countries were & are based on race/ethnicity. The blowback against multi-culturalism is nothing new, and it is approaching critical mass in many regions. The usual shaming techniques (racists!) will largely fail because 1) the ‘racists’ are in fact the victims, and 2) the PC shamers have cried ‘Wolf!’ (‘Racist!) so frequently & spuriously that the whole PC exercise has lost it’s power to shame anyone at all…
Quite the reaction to plans of the globalists.
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EileenM: What does Israel have to do with it? These people basically want to kick out lawful Polish citizens out of their country because of their religion. That is plain and simple racism, and worse – patent scapegoating, since there are very very few Jews left in Poland. Neither are there masses of Jews trying to enter Poland unlawfully to actually protest about (although I’ll grant you that same could not be said of Muslims).
When does the WSJ report on the contents of banners and signs at Communist rallies?
Sechel: Poles not welcome in Israel, only Jews are. Polish people supporting their homeland is no different than Jews’ support for Israel. Mish’s headline is so misleading and hypocritical. If anyone is a person who supports Israel, then they must support the Poles here, or they are simply massive hypocrites.
Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, White countries for everyone IS White Genocide.
Nobody, not even the most ardent open-border, globalist, rootless Liberal, would honestly suggest that Japan or Israel is merely a set of ideas and beliefs. Japan is the homeland of the Japanese people and Israel is the Jewish state. This seems rather obvious. Yet the same axiomatic truism is entirely abandoned when it comes to European nations.
Decades of multicultural propaganda, suicidal immigration policies, and a widespread cover-up by the media and political elites have convinced several generations of Europeans that our ancestral homelands, are in no way ours. We are being told that the nations our forefathers created, defended, and died for, belong just as much to us, as they do to any of the world’s seven billion people who manage to wash upon our shores.
Tens of millions of dead by atheist in the USSR, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Korea and now reaching a church near you as in the Texas shooting last week officially make the above statement the stupidest thing I have read in a long time.
“Heaven forbid the atheists take over and put an end to religious wars. God, whatever he, she, or it may or may not be, surely would not want that.”
People understandably do not want to organize a society in which they cannot recognize their “own” group. That they rally behind totems such as religion or blood is a little unfortunate and primitive. Not sure atheism will help: No century has seen such sacrifice of civilians as the twentieth century.
The map, showing no Protestantism in Suriname, or a major difference between the USA as Protestant, and Canada as mixed, makes little sense.
Would they then also lose their deference for police, courts, experts, and governments?
I wonder if anyone is working on isolating the genes that cause humans to defer to so-called “higher powers?” Sure would be nice if false prophets and demigods lost their ability to manipulate the masses. Assuming, of course, people are willing to admit they are being manipulated to suit another’s goals.
They are losing the narrative.
I’m in complete agreement with you Snow dog. Unfortunately, as a society, we are going to need to have a collective discussion about the perpetual growth model. It’s coming to the end shortly.
I’m with in complete agreement with you-Snow-Dog. Unfortunately, as a society we are going to have to have a collective discussion around these issues.
Pro-European (Indigenous) and pro-Polish and pro-Catholic doesn’t equate with “anti-Semitism”. Compare this to Israel. Not much of a difference, so are you going to condemn Zionism and Israel too? Be consistent please.
The polish government advocating child hearing is nothing unique. All countries who adopt our system, are forced to advocate perpetual population growth. You have two choices in our current system: either breed rapidly or open your borders as the US has. The latter does bring a certain chaos.
The maps highlighting religion affiliations are relics of the past. As an example, I was in Italy some years back and I would hardly call it a Catholic country. At best, it has a strong Catholic heritage, but not an active Catholic practicing community.
Considering this:
https://www.themaven.net/mishtalk/economics/polish-government-advises-couples-to-breed-like-rabbits-okUTS6ZQak22nIA_ZGJOeA
and the fertility level in most Muslim societies, these guys are probably not exactly what one would call the sharpest tools in the shed…..
It would be nice if these demonstrations lead to removing NATO’s missile shield against an attack by Iran – er – Russia.