It’s OK to Say “Gay” But Please Don’t Use Offensive Words Like “Boy” or “Girl”

March 30, 2022

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Sign paid for by the Southern Progress Pac from its website.

On Monday, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis signed into law a controversial law dubbed the “Don’t Say Gay” bill.

“It’s OK to say gay. It’s more than OK. It’s encouraged,” Ally Sammarco, a volunteer for the PAC, told NBC affiliate WESH of Winter Park.

What Does the Bill Really Do?

The law goes into effect starting July 1. It’s actually called the “Parental Rights in Education” Law.

The seven pages never mention the word gay.

The most controversial measure states “Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.”

President Biden Calls the Bill Hateful

I want every member of the LGBTQI+ community — especially the kids who will be impacted by this hateful bill — to know that you are loved and accepted just as you are. I have your back, and my Administration will continue to fight for the protections and safety you deserve. https://t.co/OcAIMeVpHL

— President Biden (@POTUS) February 8, 2022

Offensive Words Like “Boy” or “Girl”

Extreme liberals want to teach first graders about being gay, and encourage the use of the word gay.

But please don’t use offensive terms like boy and girl.

Disney leads the way.

SCOOP: Disney diversity and inclusion manager Vivian Ware says the company has eliminated all mentions of “ladies,” “gentlemen,” “boys,” and “girls” in its theme parks in order to create “that magical moment” for children who do not identify with traditional gender roles. pic.twitter.com/OWsGTUoeCA

— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) March 29, 2022

The company has eliminated all mentions of “ladies,” “gentlemen,” “boys,” and “girls” in its theme parks in order to create “that magical moment” for children who do not identify with traditional gender roles.

Magical Moment

Yes “folks” we have arrived at that magical moment in Florida where it’s OK to say gay but not boy. It’s also OK to say lesbian but not girl.

The words boy and girl are clearly offensive but gay and lesbian aren’t.

Hopefully, the irony of this asinine development sinks in to those who wish to remove all gender references, but don’t hold your breath earthlings.

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Captain Ahab

2 years ago

There is a long tradition in higher education of ‘academic freedom.’ IMHO, academic freedom associates with giving tenure–which used to be given to those faculty whose research and other contributions fell outside the mainstream–essentially a protection for creativity and risk taking that drive society forward. In the traditional view of tenure (as protection for innovation) only a very small percentage of faculty would be tenured.

Currently, academic freedom is abused mostly by progressives, by stifling contrary debate and limiting hiring/tenure to people who think as they do–the EXACT opposite of what healthy forward-looking education should be.

Now, to what extent should teachers of young children have ‘academic freedom’ and ‘tenure’? Well, it depends. A teacher who is truly searching for better ways to teach, rethinking curricula, doing research in ADHD and teaching… Very few, if any of today’s teachers qualify.

Therein lies the problem. Education (at all levels) in the US is failing miserably, using methods/philosophies of the early industrial age (efficiency and management theories of Weber, Fayol etc). Experimentation and risk-taking, the key to innovation, NO LONGER EXISTS. Now, it is all about competing sociopolitical agendas.

RonJ

2 years ago

Most importantly, whatever you do, don’t use the letter Z.

Safe and effective.

RonJ

2 years ago

/alt-market.us/leftists-are-angry-about-the-florida-anti-grooming-law-because-they-want-your-children/

By Brandon Smith

Why would someone be enraged by a law that prevents teachers from
exposing children to sexual indoctrination and demands parents are kept
in the loop on classroom lessons? It’s obvious; they’re mad because they
like the idea of grooming kids and they don’t want the process
interfered with in any way.

First, however, I think we need to understand what grooming really
is, and it’s not only about sex. One of the most pervasive cancers
within our society today is social justice based communism. In every way
the ideology is predicated on lies and disinformation, but this deceit
is merely a tool to achieve an end goal – The reeducation or
brainwashing of future generations into the leftist fold.

Casual_Observer2020

2 years ago

LOL. Conservatives are so afraid that children are going to choose their sexuality but the truth is it isn’t something you choose. You can’t be programmed or reprogrammed either. This is why the suicide rate amongst children who look like one gender but actually feel like another is like 90%. I am reminded of the Republican Ohio congressman who for decades railed against gays and lesbians and then one day his son came out of the closet and announced he was gay. The congressman was so embarrassed by his own values that he changed them to accept his son and admitted he was wrong and had been wrong about everything he ever said about gays or lesbians. I feel bad for any kid that looks like one gender but actually feels like the other because that child, even in 2022, has only about a 10% chance of NOT committing suicide. Pretty sure the suicide rate is also higher amongst children who are gay or lesbian as well.

StukiMoi

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

The important point is that no speech, by anyone, about anyone, should be, in any way, ever, at all, restricted by any Government. Period.

Conservative vs Liberal has exactly nothing to do with it whatsoever, and is just obfuscation employed to fool the stupid and gullible into accepting government has any, whatsoever, legitimate role in restricting, nor even being aware of, speech. They don’t. Ever. Without ANY exception.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to StukiMoi

Where is the government restricting speech on this topic?

StukiMoi

2 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

On Mishtalk, among other places…..

Try posting an F word ending in gott.

The reason you can’t, is unlikely to be just Mish’ squeamishness. But instead fear that the government, always the government, will aid and abet ambulance chasers looking for an excuse to shake someone down.

Captain Ahab

2 years ago

Reply to StukiMoi

Nonsense. Your freedom of speech does not apply. It is a constitutional protection against government.

StukiMoi

2 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Yes. Exactly. Government. Ambulance chasers themselves can safely be ignored. It’s only once government gets involved in the speech suppression, that it becomes problematic.

KidHorn

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

90%? That’s absurd. Do you have any data to back that up?

I assume you have no kids, because no parent would want their kids taught this nonsense in school. And no parent anywhere in the entire world is happy to hear their child is gay and would do anything they could to prevent it.

dbannist

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

It absolutely is something you chose, at least most people.

I’m sure by now you’ve seen that 20 percent of those born after 2005 now identify as LGBTQ vs. just 1% 20 years before that.

That’s absolute evidence that people have a choice in the matter and are being socially groomed and pushed into these decisions.And your 90% suicide rate is absolute nonsense. If anything, if that stat is true (and it isn’t) then we absolutely need to shy away from social pressure to be LGBTQ and stop this nonsense. If 90% commit suicide then by all means, let’s stop the trans nonsense.

Captain Ahab

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Thee are any number of anecdotes. The worst by far: The Johns Committee in Florida. Look it up–you’ll discover the hypocrisy of the left

Captain Ahab

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

The hypocrisy of the left emerges. While you are right about the suicide rates, and that most of them are caused by lack of acceptance by family and friends, let’s consider the following conjecture:

With the discovery that sexual orientation is genetic, a fetal test is developed. Parents abort their gay babies. Now, what does the left do about it?

Mike 2112

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Nope.

Most ppl just dont want adults talking to little kids about sexual matters.

You say sexuality cant be programmed, but feelings can be manipulated, including the “feeling” of being the “wrong” gender.

That’s what this bill aims to stop.

Irondoor

2 years ago

I got my sex-ed in the 2nd floor boys bathroom/smoking lounge and the back seat of my dad’s Studebaker.

honestcreditguy

2 years ago

I think a rec van with all the gear and a pointbreak in Baja is calling, never have I seen the destruction of a country take place so fast under the whacked out liberal sheep flockers…..Peak America, so glad to enjoyed ya…..

Biden fluffers should go work in the bad porn industry. They might make a buck….all 30 million of them..

Ohh I forgot its the liberals who are in love with molestors, rapists and murderers what was I thinking….

Bless u my AR

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to honestcreditguy

Rock on, angry man-in-a-van-down-by-the-creek!

Naphtali

2 years ago

Ah yes, I see quite clearly that Putin does indeed have us pegged as bickering lemmings.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Naphtali

Bickering is an innate trait of most members of the animal kingdom.

ColoradoAccountant

2 years ago

Won’t be long and you won’t be able to say electrons carry a negative charge if they self identify as a positron.

Webej

2 years ago

A culture at war with Nature … wonder who will win.

Nature is so unfair!

Zardoz

2 years ago

Gendered pronouns are superfluous for the most part. You don’t need to state somebody’s gender in almost every sentence. Spanish gives genders to nouns, which is even more useless.

I’m going to start using “it” universally. Have referred to peoples kids that way in the past and it generally provokes an amusing reaction. Now if they get mad I am justified by my wokeness.

Zardoz

2 years ago

“Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards.”

Pretty spot on. This stuff belongs in sex Ed later on. Of course if they manage to eliminate sex Ed altogether…

Many parents don’t tell their kids what they need to know, same as with financial education.

KyleW

2 years ago

Progressives have jumped the shark. The anti-gender agenda makes no sense.

Lisa_Hooker

2 years ago

Reply to KyleW

It makes sense. The LGBTQ… cannot breed (procreate). The can only perpetuate through education.

Six000mileyear

2 years ago

From my experience, individual (fill in the blank) are nice people when you get to know them. When they form groups the ugly comes out.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Six000mileyear

That’s because they know you can’t give them the whoopin’ they’ve earned if they are in a gang.

Lisa_Hooker

2 years ago

Reply to Six000mileyear

Kinda like lynch mobs?

thimk

2 years ago

Ron Desantis goes back to basics : reading , writing and arithmetic in the schools . What could be so bad with that. Some things should be taught/learned from the parents or independently from public ed. The imagineers over at disney should create a LGBTQ cartoon character ; Mickey/MInnie Mouse , Donald/Daisy cancelled !

list of cartoon characters:

link to listchallenges.com

Captain Ahab

2 years ago

Reply to thimk

The problem is those kids whose parents have a limited world view and strong beliefs/values with a religious focus. Usually with closed-minded education and experiences, they force their children into their idealized self-image, effectively consigning their offspring to unhappiness until they are able to break away.

The fact is too many young people are suicidal (many with complex sexual issues and unsupportive homes), and social media is making it worse as more and more communication occurs outside the home in unsupervised channels.

That said, ramming ‘gender variations’ into early education is not a good idea. What is needed is not what is happening. There are closed minds on both sides, and having politicized the issue, critical thinking stops.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Is it two legs bad, four legs good, or the other way around?

Democritus

2 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

“Three words good, more words bad” -The One Minute Maniac

Call_Me

2 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

It depends on which party is in power.

Call_Me_Al

Mike 2112

2 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

And of course you have the solution to all those parents who have “wrongthink.”

Stop grooming kids. Sexualizing children is also a path towards unhappiness and suicide.

Dutoit

2 years ago

This is the kind of society that US (and EU) want to impose to the rest of the world.

Doug78

2 years ago

Reply to Dutoit

C’est seulement
les Democrats et ils seront hors de pouvoir après les élections en
novembre.

Naphtali

2 years ago

Reply to Doug78

J’espère bien que c’est le cas.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Dutoit

If that’s true, while it is kinda wierd, I’ll take it over Pooty-poot and Poohbear’s respective visions.

Casual_Observer2020

2 years ago

Reply to Dutoit

No one is imposing anything on anyone. You want freedom and liberty but you want it limited. Sorry it doesn’t work that way. Go live in China or Russia or some other place where they throw people who think in jail.

dbannist

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

You can’t have freedom and liberty without restrictions. Liberty is only possible BY restrictions.

RonJ

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

California legislator has a proposed bill to punish doctors who tell their patients the truth about FDA obstructed therapies for Covid-19, or about the truth about the Covid-19 shots.

The bill does not include jail time, but might as well live in China or Russia, if the bill passes. Can’t trust a doctor to tell me the truth.

Can’t trust KTLA ‘news” to tell me the truth.

JeffD

2 years ago

All the latin languages and german are based on feminine and masculine articles of speech. How long until it’s illegal to speak a foreign language?

Webej

2 years ago

Reply to JeffD

worse. German & Latin (&Greek) have a neuter. And Greek has a dual form (in addition to single/plural), and there is evidence that Latin used to have.

Some heavily inflected languages show far more gender & number ‘cases’, often reflecting extra nuances in the social structure (like which side of the family you are from). Some languages even show important languages differences between men & women.

MPO45

2 years ago

There is already a teacher shortage across America and there will be millions more short when all the boomers retire and with these new partisan hack laws you can expect far more teachers to quit sooner than later. Got higher labor shortage?

link to npr.org

Seems our choices in society are now between wokeness or talibanism. Choose your poison. I’m putting the final pieces of the puzzle together to move outside the US soon in a few more years. You guys can deal with this crap.

Six000mileyear

2 years ago

Reply to MPO45

Those retiring teachers will have plenty of time to start home schools and teach their grandchildren.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Six000mileyear

They’ll be scrounging for cat food money, mostly.

Doug78

2 years ago

Since this is an economic and investing blog perhaps were should be looking at whether gay of straight people are better at investing. Additionally we should be judging which part of the LGBT+ spectrum is better at accumulating wealth and comparing them to those who generate wealth. If those here are not willing to do these comparisons and judgments then why in the hell are we even talking about it? What we could do is speculate who here is gay, straight, transsexual, pansexual, asexual and so forth by the content of their comments and call them by what we perceive to be their sexual orientation and not by what they say. It would make a livelier discussion by volume if not by content and would certainly send the number of comments over the two hundred mark. Although in in my darker moments that would give a certain pleasure to call those who disagree with me by true although derogatory names in my more lucid moments I believe that that would be counterproductive. Can we please talk about something more applicable to making and losing money by investing?

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Doug78

I know several very rich, very gay people, and only a couple poor ones. I’d say gays are superior investors, utilizing the gaydar they developed for survival to detect the best investments.

KidHorn

2 years ago

Based on the latest polls, 60% of Americans are refusing to be idiots and will be contesting the woke nonsense at the ballots.

Captain Ahab

2 years ago

A timely reminder to Democrats: In the 1960s, Florida was the home of the Florida Legislative Investigation Committee, aka Johns Committee (see here: link to en.wikipedia.org), led by Democrat Charles Johns.

The reaction to “Parental Rights in Education” Law is another con-job by the ‘self-righteous’ Democrap party. They need to apologize (and pay reparations) to the many faculty and students whose lives they ruined.

You can’t not know history!

The best and current estimate of active homosexuals in Florida is 60,000
individuals. The plain fact of the matter is that a great many
homosexuals have an insatiable appetite for sexual activities and find
special gratification in the recruitment to their ranks of youth. The
homosexual’s goal is to “bring over” the young person, to hook him for
homosexuality. A veteran investigator of homosexual activities… said,
“We must do everything in our power to create one thing in the minds of
every homosexual and that is to keep their hands off our children. …if
we don’t act soon we will wake up some morning and find they are too big
to fight. They may be already. I hope not.” We hope that many citizen
organizations in Florida will use this report… to prepare their children
to meet the temptations of homosexuality lurking today in the vicinity
of nearly every institution of learning.

Mish

2 years ago

Reply to Captain Ahab

Homosexuals do not “recruit”. That is bullshit. You are born gay or lesbian. You do not get recruited into it.

Captain Ahab

2 years ago

Reply to Mish

FYI, I was unable to add quotation marks and explain its inclusion in my comment before my editing time expired. I was appalled when I read the passage, more so because I know someone who was affected by the Johns Committee.

The passage is directly quoted from the report of the John’s Committee in 1964: Homosexuality and Citizenship in Florida, informally called “the Purple Pamphlet”

Webej

2 years ago

Reply to Mish

Actually, there is far more evidence (though not conclusive) for being born gay than for lesbian … lesbian is often rather fluid during the course of lifetime.

Whereas there seems to be some evidence for physical correlates to being gay (although hard to say if they are genetic or epigenetic), no corresponding phenomena for lesbians. One might also wonder whether lesbian & gay are in fact parallel or homologous ‘states’.

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to Webej

Does this mean we need more letters in LBGQT?

Lisa_Hooker

2 years ago

Reply to Zardoz

This is why I shall not support any LGBTQ… until they add “P”olygamy. What is wrong with three guys wanting to get married? /s???

KidHorn

2 years ago

Reply to Mish

I agree most are born to be gay, but it seems gay men are attracted to underage boys. Look at the catholic church and Jerry Sandusky as examples. Doesn’t seem to be the same for lesbians.

randocalrissian

2 years ago

Has anyone here ever met someone who believes it is not okay to say boy or girl? I never have met anyone who says that or believes it. Are we sure we aren’t just being driven into tribal camps by the hyperbolic media? In case your detector is broken, yes that is a rhetorical question.

Mish

2 years ago

Reply to randocalrissian

Did you play the actual comment from Disney.

No, I have never “met” such idiots but it is official policy at Disney to create “magical” moments

Zardoz

2 years ago

Reply to randocalrissian

They are legion, kept at bay only by the Strong Family Values I keep, and the Power of Christ. Thank the lord I never need lay eyes upon them!

TCW

2 years ago

XX and XY should be the two descriptors.

Six000mileyear

2 years ago

Reply to TCW

Yes, follow the science.

Casual_Observer2020

2 years ago

Reply to TCW

And one day they will find another descriptor that tells you sexual orientation. Science already knows it isn’t something you control.

Lisa_Hooker

2 years ago

Reply to Casual_Observer2020

Yup. Like being a serial axe killer. Or a politician.

It’s OK to Say “Gay” But Please Don’t Use Offensive Words Like “Boy” or “Girl”

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