Memo Released, That’s Just a Start: Let it All Hang Out

Had the FBI told the FISA court of Steele’s anti Trump comments, that Steele was paid with Hillary and DNC money, that the wife of a DOJ deputy AG, Nellie Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS, the judge would have blew a gasket as he threw them out of his courtroom.

this is treason but it will never get to that

Exactly. They did not disclose material facts when they sought the Warrant, like the fact that the request was entirely based on the dossier complied by a known Trump hater and paid for by the DNC and Clinton. Nor was it clear that the supporting information from YahooNews was drawn from the same dossier – and frankly if that is the best the FBI can do it is time they packed up. I doubt very much that any Judge would have granted a warrant had they known these very basic facts. It is entirely arguable that the warrant was illegally obtained.

I fully expect Manafort’s lawyers to request a dismissal on precisely these grounds.

They should all be indicted.

Because of the secrecy, and the fact that a FISC doesn’t involve much (if any) real oversight, when a member of law enforcement goes before the judge they should be expected to relay all information regardless of whether or not they find it important.

In the case of a secret warrant to spy on a presidential campaign – which is what this was no matter how you slice it – the FISC should definitely have all the info – including if the alleged information was collected by an organization paid to dig dirt on their opposition in that campaign and how it was obtained.

My guess is that had they disclosed all of this, the judge would have said “no thanks”.

At this point, if I’m the judge, I realize I’ve been unwittingly dragged into some seriously messed-up shit – and I want someone’s balls. And I will have them. I will find out who ordered this and they will pay.

That’s why the Democrats are so up-in-arms. It literally goes to the top of their organization so they have to do the dance. Which puts them in the unenviable position of simultaneously saying the memo is”nothing” while at the same time it’s a threat to democracy itself and is destroying law enforcement as we know it. It is – at the same time – nothing, and everything.

It is “Schrodinger’s Memo”…

DBG said “politicians will always obstruct and obfuscate because they can’t be prosecuted for lying to the people even if they’re trying to cover up bad behavior by their peers.” I’m pretty sure that anyone who lies (intentionally or not) while under oath can be prosecuted. Problem is that if the liar and the person who should prosecute him are in the political party, prosecution may be ignored, just as happened so often during the Obummer administration.

stillXJ – my bad i am with you 100% on eliminating corruption.. i misread your reply as you said (you started with a quote – couldn’t see the quotation marks on this notepad)

no, was your comment that the “IC” would not disclose information to the Senate Intel C’ttee because the c’ttee would publish to their bosses, the american public, becasue the c’ttee might dem it to be in the public interst and not classified.

Hooligan: where did I say “secrets”? Are you referring to my quote from Shamrock?

to stilljc – by “secrets” do you mean political bias that would make the FBI look bad (and the CIA?) if it were made public?

“Comey’s statement means the IC will be less forthcoming with Congress now that they can’t be trusted to keep a secret”. First of all, Comey is not going to be involved in those decisions anymore. I am very grateful to the Committee for exposing the corruption in the IC, those are serious crimes, none of which would ever have been exposed if Crooked Hillary had been elected. The dems seem to forget that stuff like that can be turned around when the other party takes over, like with the Nuclear Option started by Evil Harry Reid. I have never understood why some people are against cleaning up corruption.

on the face of it, the Clinton cabal, obama appointees and political supporters within the enfrocement agencies have colluded to kick-off a constitutinal crisis. it is sedition to attempt to userp or overthrow the lawfully elected executive by bearing false witness or abusing federal powers to do so. this places mueller in an invidious position of having to investigate an allegation of russian collusion, based on a FISA reuqest that omitted information that would have had the FISA request thrown out, had the information (DNC sponsorship and use of a foreign agent’s gossip) been made clear to the FISA judge. of course, it could be that the FISA judge is also complicit. anyway, this is the appetizer before the main meal. that main meal is being prepared now – in the form of hard evidence that backs the 4-page summary – against – the hard evidence that backs the democrat rebuttal comingnext week. if the main meal has substance, we can dine out on the sound of “next shoe(s) to fall” for all the crimes committed by the Clinton cabal and the DNC over the entire period of the presdiential campaign (and beyond for CGI/CF allegations). this will include a re-examination of deleted clinton emails, benghazi, breach of security via abedin/weiner, access to and stealing of the entire software and hardwar of congress by the awan brothers (ties to islamic terrorism via the awan brothers relaying info to pakistan?) – the nurder of seth rich? etc etc.

Comey is is being dishonest and misleading.

It would seem the previous president’s supposed knowledge of the Constitution had nothing to do with respecting the Constitution.

Earlier today, I issued the following statement after the U.S. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence released its memo on alleged abuses by the FBI and the Department of Justice:

“While I applaud the release of this memo, I also call for Congress to take immediate action to help prevent such behavior in the future. It is imperative it start by listening to Americans who have expressed outrage over its disregard for the Fourth Amendment and reexamining the powers it reauthorized right before we learned of the memo.

“Continuing to ignore the Constitution will only guarantee that others fall victim to government abusing its domestic surveillance powers.”

Washington Post which is famous for exposing the Watergate Scandal and NYT which was famous for Pentagon Papers were now in favor of NOT releasing the Intelligence Committee Memo to the public. Obviously the new owners of those papers have a very different agenda, and it is not transparency or investigating the facts. All the individuals against it are personally implicated in the corruption or will suffer political damage. The Swamp is being drained – finally!

Did the Clinton Foundation pay for the dossier? I thought it was the DNC. Anyway, nothing new in the memo. The claims by the FBI and dems that the memo should not be divulged for national security reasons seems preposterous. I can’t wait to hear the response from the FBI and dems. I assume there won’t be any actual rebuttal of specific claims. Just the usual ‘Trump is trying to hide from the Mueller probe’ nonsense.