Merry Christmas Taxpayers, More Omnibus Details Emerge and They Are Inflationary

CPI on medical care services from the BLS via the St. Louis Fed

Let’s look inside Congress’s Omnibus Healthcare Malpractice

Both parties in Congress appear to have given up on enacting healthcare policy changes through regular order—i.e., committee hearings, debate and up-or-down floor votes. That explains the omnibus spending bill’s mish-mosh of healthcare measures, and please don’t call them reform.

Medicaid rolls have swelled during the pandemic by some 24 million to 98 million, and nearly one in three Americans is now on the program. If not for the emergency, most of these new beneficiaries would be removed because their income exceeds state limits or for other reasons such as they haven’t complied with modest cost-sharing rules.

The Foundation for Government Accountability says the monthly cost of ineligible enrollees is $15.2 billion, $11.4 billion of which is picked up by the feds. But states’ $4.8 billion share now exceeds the $2.9 billion they receive in extra federal Medicaid funds each month.

Congress had exempted Medicare providers from an annual 2% cut under budget sequestration rules during the pandemic. Under the omnibus, these cuts will return starting next year and continue through 2032. However, the bill averts a separate 4% annual Medicare payment cut that under budget rules was supposed to take effect next year.

This is budget trickery that lets Congress claim savings tomorrow to finance new entitlement expansions today

Nearly One in Three on Medicaid and More Entitlement Expansions

Nearly one in three is on Medicaid, and effectively Republicans approved a buy now pay later shell game to keep it that way. 

If you think this isn’t inflationary, well, think again. With government picking up more of the tab, prices will soar. Amusingly, however, the CPI will report this as negative.

The CPI only counts expenses directly paid by consumers. If we had Medicare for all, prices would skyrocket but direct consumer healthcare spending would sink. 

Isn’t the CPI wonderful?

To tie loose ends, the PCE index does include expenses paid on behalf of consumers so it would rise. 

Inflation Reduction Act

If you think the Inflation Reduction Act will reduce inflation then you are delusional. Heck, the title speaks for itself.

The most like likely thing any bill accomplished is the opposite of the title. The second most likely thing is that problems surface elsewhere.

Note that the first and second are not mutually exclusive. Both can easily happen.

The third most likely thing is nothing at all. The fourth most likely thing is an accidental improvement to something unrelated. 

And finally, on very rare occasions (although I struggle to name one), a bill actually performs as intended with no negative repercussions. 

Will the Inflation Reduction Act Do Anything?

On July 31, I asked Will the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 Do Anything at All?

Regarding inflation, Penn Wharton concluded “The act would very slightly increase inflation until 2024 and decrease inflation thereafter. These point estimates are statistically indistinguishable from zero.”

The Penn Wharton estimate is that the provisions taken together lead to an increase in GDP of nothing by 2030 and 0.2 percent in 2050.

We can only hope, but that’s a big zero in my book. Yet, that’s a very good outcome compared to the two most likely ones. 

My estimate, however, is that something will surface somewhere leading to a net-negative outcome.

More Omnibus Details Coming 

Already we can conclude Republicans sold the farm just so they could get the military spending provisions they wanted. 

For more disgusting details of the Republican cop-out, please see Congress Will Pass Ugly $1.65 Trillion, 4,155-Page Bill Members Will Never Read

Q: What else is hidden in the spending bill? 
A: We will find out later and it will range from terrible to worse than terrible.

Senate Republicans knew this but looked away. 

Merry Christmas.

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Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
As soon as I can locate Sancho Panza we will be off to find “a
bill that actually performs as intended with no negative repercussions.”
Anyone here recall: “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”
That was about healthcare too.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
After examining the past 10 years of PCE I note that it is more than discomforting to see that after February 2021 the curve of the PCE has resumed it’s unsustainable and exponential rise to the sky. (Food for thought: keep in mind that the price of a dollar can FALL with an exponential rate.)
EMS9233
EMS9233
1 year ago
As a ‘provider’ States better step up to “at a minimum Medicare rates” or people will not get service. I cannot pay $5.49 a gallon, 60,000.00 for a used rig, 20.00 an hour for a basic EMT, 25.00 for a Paremedic, costs of supplies (can’t bill extra for), $3,465.00 for insurance, some benefits to run a patient from ER to ER for $120.00 flat basic trip or $180.00 flat for Advanced Life Support Trip with an additional $2.00 a mile in Ohio. ER beds will never get emptied out.
EMS9233
EMS9233
1 year ago
Reply to  EMS9233
Medicaid doesn’t ‘pay’ the bills not even close. Hell, we’ve been in business from day one of pandemic. 1 PPP loan 62,450.00 and my people could have made about same sitting on the couch getting 600.00 a week from Federal Government and their additional State pay. PLUS they wouldn’t have had to pay taxes on unemployment. Nope, we in the trenches everyday. People were so proud of ‘essential workers’. How’s about we get 5 years of no taxes and we will call it a job well done? I can’t tell you how many people have left or are leaving EMS. I’m just over here, like Paul Revere telling everyone the ‘Red Coats’ are coming and we are ignored. I’m telling everyone plain and simple EMS is in a CRISIS, and when it eventually touches you or yours I hope you remember these words!!
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  EMS9233
As far as I can see the system is broken, not simply damaged.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  EMS9233
Medicare “worked” — or rather appeared to work — because a huge percent of the population (baby boomers) were on private insurance from their employers. Medicare underpaid for a small percentage of the population, but hospitals more than made up the losses by charging private insurance plans.
Starting two years ago, the baby boomers started shifting from net payers (via employment / private insurance), to Medicare (underpaying). As more and more baby boomers make this shift, hospitals are in deep trouble.
Of course, the real underlying issue is not how to finance care, but the cost of care. Hospitals and doctors offices are hopelessly inefficient, government run messes. Hospitals operate like the DMV or the Post Office or Amtrak. Even the so-called private hospitals are micro-managed by government dictates … they might as well be public. And no hospital pays any taxes — they are all exempt one way or another — so they are getting massive subsidies already. They all issue tax exempt debt — another subsidy.
Elective surgery costs have dropped over the last 20 years. Government micro-managed procedure costs have soared 4-5x as fast as CPI.
Health care is going to bankrupt the USA by the time all the baby boomers have retired (shifted from net payers under private insurance to underpayers on Medicare).
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
Dear Mouse – after the GFC and subsequent layoffs, the baby Boomers began shifting from employer/private insurance to Medicare the instant the first 1946 Boomer that could retire turned 65 in 2011. This has been going on for over a decade. Even if you remained employed, many employee insurance plans mandated Medicare as the primary insurer at age 65, and the company plan as secondary insurer while you remained employed.
Portlander2
Portlander2
1 year ago
South Dakota is the latest State to expand Medicaid due to overwhelming bi-partisan voter approval last November. There are now 40 States that expanded Medicaid. Voters increasingly like the idea of affordable health care, particularly if there are huge federal incentives on the table. Why let those go to waste? Why decline to accept the obvious benefits to the poor, to say nothing of the health care jobs, tax revenues, and other economic benefits from the multiplier effects of such spending.
I see no point in trashing deficit spending on healthcare for the poor. Even your very Red State of Utah, Mish, expanded Medicaid. Smart move.
Texas and Florida are among the last holdouts against Medicaid expansion. You have to admit that it’s stupid to refuse billions in Federal dollars in a futile crusade against a good (albeit imperfect) safety net. These States, too, will eventually succumb to the obvious. Expanding Medicaid is good for people, good for business, good for State and local governments.
I share your concern about needless Fedeal spending. Consider directing your ire not on health but on failed weapons systems and failed wars. The folly of our military spending is vividly displayed by the realities of the war in Ukraine: we are running out of useful weaponry to send them. Why? We (and NATO) haven’t planned for a long war of attrition and failed to stockpile sufficient basic systems and ammo–even Stingers, Javelins and HIMARS–but most negligently, we failed to stockpile sufficient artillery shells. And now our Congress seems ready to pick a fight with China over Taiwan. What will we fight with? F-35’s that keep crashing and are too expensive to risk in actual combat? Nuclear ICBMs?
This kind of stupidity in how the military spends almost $900 billion/year–more than the rest of the world combined– is where your ire should be directed, Mish. At least Medicaid helps people, and that money is spent right here in the USA. Look at what we’re doing in Syria, Yemen and elsewhere. This money just kills, destroys, creates millions of refugees, ruins our reputation, etc. and is spent overseas. Worst of all: we eventually lose these wars and make more enemies around the world in the process.
I see myself, now, as an “America First” progressive Democrat. Spend it here. Create jobs here. Leave other countries alone. I hope both parties will move in this direction in 2024 and beyond.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  Portlander2
No one on the left coast should be calling anyone, anywhere “stupid”. You folks have the most homeless, the highest income inequality, the highest taxes, and considering what mother nature started you with — you have made a complete mess of your environment. Want to see stupid? Look at CA, OR, WA states. You had it all and you blew it.
Obama isn’t the first con man to promise a free lunch. He isn’t even the first con man to promise free health care (LBJ tried). And Obama isn’t the first con man to be a complete liar.
Federal tax dollars come with massive strings attached. And to be blunt, it is OUR federal dollars; it does not belong to our public employees whether elected or appointed. You aren’t doing your “stupid” label any favors by failing to recognize the strings that come with federal “grants”.
No idea why the federal criminals (both parties) are getting away with sending so much money to protect Ukraine borders while neglecting USA borders. The USA needs smart, hard working immigrants — we don’t need free loaders, violent mexican drug gangs, or (supposedly) terrorists from elsewhere in the world.
Of course, its easy to embezzle money “earmarked” for Ukraine. I suspect at least 40% is actually going to DC consultants, weapons brokers and Raytheon. Another 40% (at least) will be embezzled and stolen by the government of Ukraine — it was and still is one of the most corrupt governments in the world. Zelensky apparently “earned” seven figures in 2022… while fighting a war. The oligarch that owns Bursima Holdings (and pays Hunter Biden’s bribes) made eight figures … during a war.
Everyone in DC: Pelosi, McConnel, Schumer, Graham … they all voted to line their own pockets, line corrupt Ukranian pockets, and to h#ll with the US taxpayers. Its sick.
But if you think the current health care scam is the answer… the USA spends twice as much (as percent of GDP) on health care as we do on military nonsense. Perhaps you should turn some of your alleged intellect to looking at the actual numbers instead of politcal rhetoric. Health care spending will bankrupt the federal government even faster than the military mess.
The US must get health care COSTS under control. Pretending like a COST problem can be solved with a fancy financing scheme is really really STUPID. That is all medicare / medicaid / universal health insurance / private insurance are — they are all financing schemes. You can’t afford a house on a 105% LTV subprime mortgage, you can’t afford college tuition that rises 2x inflation, and you can’t afford health care costs that rise 4-5x inflation.
Please stop telling us how smart you left coasters think you are. You don’t act smart, your states are messes. And your math skills stink
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
you make very valid points. however i think getting into the regional rivalries is falling into the divide and conquer game of the blue v gray (blue v red), cold civil war re enactment. the really big picture is we, the usa, is just another world wide flung empire that has over reached, and allowed the military men and profiteers to unwind us with profligacy. we’ll learn the hard way, just like the past world wide empires like the USSR, UK, french, spanish, portuguese, french and roman empires all went. take away the world wide aspirations of our military and corporations protected by the navy……..and i’d surmise providing decent health care (as opposed to health insurance schemes), proper housing and hospitalization for mentally ill, addicted etc……..now living in city and small towns from coast to coast to hawaii. it seems we won’t unwind the empire of debt the easy way. it’s rare in history. only one or two that i know of. we’ll go the old fashioned way. the long and nasty slog down. hopefully our bust up will not result in too much civil strife, here. i’d suspect with the bounty of panem et circenses we all have, it will be mostly a big yawn. happy new years to all. to end on a positive note, i do firmly believe all unwound empires are better for humanity, both inside and outside the aforementioned imperial world wide pursuits for domination.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
I prefer to live in a meritocracy. And that means I don’t want “advice” from morons. I want advice from winners.
The majority of voters in California are morons. I judge them by the results of their own decisions, and what they say are their own objectives.
If someone is “progressive”, yet has staggering homeless, staggering income inequality — despite having a one party “progressive” state — that person is a failure.
If someone claims to be about the environment, yet their state has terrible water shortages and forest fires — that person is a failure.
If someone claims to want to help the poor and levies obscene taxes, but those taxes mostly support corruption (CA, OR, WA, Illinois, NY, etc) — that person is a failure.
If meritocracy offends you @vanderlyn, perhaps that is because it forces you to accept that your way of life is a a failure.
EMS9233
EMS9233
1 year ago
Reply to  Portlander2
Your a feel good dumb a. What do you do for a living?
Dean_70
Dean_70
1 year ago
As I cashed in my $600 CA Middle Class rebate I wondered why they sent this as there is technically no recession, unemployment close to historical low and politicians bragging about how great the economy is while I watch grocery prices shoot to the moon. So they sent more money to counter the inflation they caused by sending too much money and people are happy because they get a little cash to keep them happy and shut their mouths.
They keep injecting money into the system in the name of helping the little guy but all this results in a hidden tax (via inflation) that benefits the wealthy and fosters the ever-widening wealth gap.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Dean_70
The CA payment was meant as a “vote-for-me” bribe by our 2nd term government Newsom. It worked.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  Dean_70
California supposedly has some of the best colleges in the country (Stanford, UCLA, Berkley, etc) … and yet they also have the worst homeless problem, staggering state debt and staggering income inequality. CA has staggering man-made environmental problems; mostly related to water, but the ineptitude on clearing kindling from wilderness lands leads to plenty of forest fires too.
If these people are really as educated as they constantly tell us, why is their state such a F-ING mess? Why don’t they unleash some of their alleged intellect to fix their own state?
The $600 “vote for me” bribe is only one example of California’s horrid mismanagement. These people have a lot of nerve telling the rest of the world what to do when they have demonstrated an inability to manage their own state.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
Because we have an excess of bleeding heart liberals here who are very house wealthy and therefore don’t mind giving excessive support and money to any stray animals/people who wander into their neighborhoods. This attracts homeless and druggies from all over to sop up all the money available.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Again, if CA / OR / WA are so much smarter than everyone else like they keep telling us, if they believe their poop doesn’t stink, if they believe their PhDs make them so much better than deplorable flyover country…. then why can’t they manage to run their own state? (its a rhetorical question)
Left wing politicians control the Governor, the legislature, the city mayors, the city councils. They have for a long time. They have staggering debts. Staggering taxes. Staggering homelessness. Staggering income inequality. Staggering water shortages and forest fires.
If they are as smart as they tell themselves, why can’t they fix their own state? Why do they believe they can get a free lunch (free healthcare, free housing, free income, blah blah blah)?
What is the point of having a state full of silly credentials (PhDs and so on) if those credentials don’t translate into results?
And why do these morons think the rest of us want policy advice from a failed state?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
When I started staggering I stopped drinking.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
“Inflation Reduction Act”
“Sustainable farming.” The Netherlands government wants to shut down 3,000 farms. Just what is sustainable about permanently shutting down farms? Bill Gates has bought up a lot of farm land and it seems as though no one has said what he is doing with that farm land. Is there farming on it, or is it being kept from being farmed?
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Farmland is a great investment. It is far more stable an investment than stocks and tends to provide better returns. And Bill Gates is just one of many who invest in it; including large pensions and large investment funds.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“Many were speculating about Gates’ motivation for the acquisitions – was
it part of his larger sustainability strategy? As it happens, Gates
says these investments are, in fact, not connected to climate.”
Gates said he was going to fund a study on Ivermectin. I knew what the study would claim, as he has a big investment in vaccines. “Show me the incentive and i will show you the outcome.” Gates can say that his owning 242,000 acres of farm land is not related to climate, but that is exactly why Netherlands plans to shut down 3K of them and i believe Trudeau is of similar mind on that subject. There is more than meets the eye.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
20-30 years from now, farmland will be most fallow and turned into parks or housing developments.
The world is moving to controlled indoor vertical farming and meat/poultry will be cultured meat that will no longer require live animals to be raised and butchered.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
If what’s in a petri dish is growing does it have a right to survival?
I feel sure that there are some West Coast folks that will believe so.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
Even more interesting, we might be able to stop cutting down forests for wood products soon!
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We can now 3D print as much wood as we want without cutting a single tree
At number 13 on IE’s 22 best innovations of 2022, we look at the world’s first lab-grown wood.
Rupendra Brahambhatt
Created: Dec 19, 2022
Stop cutting trees! Will this slogan remain a slogan forever? We have been slaughtering trees as if they grow in a day and as if they are unlimited in number.
A global forest survey reveals that since the beginning of human civilization, we have already wiped out 54 percent of the total tree population on Earth, although it is common knowledge that uncontrolled deforestation is one of the main causes of frequent heat waves, droughts, and tsunamis.
We still cut trees in large numbers on a daily basis for making products like paper, wax, medicines, rubber, and furniture. Some of these products are so basic to our lifestyle that we can not imagine our lives without them.
So does that mean we’ll keep cutting trees to fulfill our desires?
Well, not anymore. All thanks to a groundbreaking innovation that we reported in May 2022. A study published then in the journal Materials Today shed light on the world’s first 3D-printed lab-grown wood. By the means of this research, the scientist at MIT demonstrated that deforestation is no longer needed to produce timber.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Now you have made my greatest fear that they will figure out how to make an unlimited number of Democrats in the lab.
Avery
Avery
1 year ago
Mish,
an endless loop of Gimme Shelter, Grand Funk Railroad cover, is most appropriate as this sh!tshow is collapsing.
Greenmountain
Greenmountain
1 year ago
Cuts in Medicaid make no sense as it only drives up commercial health care rates so again the workers get stuck paying the bill. And then employers start cutting the health care they offer their employees so deductibles and co-pays go up. And where is the logic that says health care for the poor is going to be cut 2% a year, commercial can grow as much as the insurance companies can convince the regulators, medicare is based on some federal formula and meanwhile most speciality doctors are doing quit well. Having a three tiered medical system in this county makes zero sense. Meanwhile children are the ones who suffer the most. There is no safety net for children – only us crazy adults.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Greenmountain
“… Having a three tiered medical system in this county makes zero sense…”
By this reasoning, illegal immigrants should get the same healthcare as legal residents. What will this do for illegal immigration?
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
a boomer congress passes legislation that primarily benefits boomers? I am shocked! more socialism for boomers and harsh capitalism for everyone else, what a lovely christmas gift.
speaking of boomers, we’re almost at the end of december so somewhere across america, 200,000 boomers have retired and enrolled in social security and medicare. less workers, less productivity and more consumption…this will end well for everyone. I guess JPow will keep raising rates then?
We’ve been in Europe these past few weeks, surprised to run into so many american boomers here, met up with a few at a group dinner who said they were looking for a place to move outside the US “before they come for all their money.” So the wealthy are planning on moving out in droves and the wage slaves will be left behind in America. What an intriguing future.
What congress did to the taxpayer I will refer to a scene in a famous christmas movie, “keep the change you filthy animal.”
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
You might not know this but Medicaid is not a program for boomers. I’ll soon sign up for Medicare and pay a large premium and have to buy a supplemental policy. Medicare rates are based on prior income. The Medicare tax has no upper limit. Effectively, Medicare is priced as the more you pay in the higher your premium will be.
Our tax system is theft and you are correct that the wage slaves (of which I’ve been one for 42 years now) get screwed. The country has payers and takers. Welcome to the payers group!
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Merry Christmas MPO. Thanks for your comments this year; in particular your investment and demographics comments.
If each of us becomes healthy and wealthy enough, we shouldn’t have to worry too much about health care costs.
I would rather do that than constantly complain about the government full-time. Much less stressful.
Stay positive!
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
i am healthy and wealthy enough but that’s not true for everyone I care about and that’s the dilemma. most people can’t begin to comprehend what a mess the USA will be in by 2030 but they will learn fast. The elderly and the very young will suffer the most.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
The current inflation increase started 5-8 years back when burger flippers, janitors, maids, low-level clerks, etc. were successful in getting huge bumps in their hourly pay from the $8-$12 range to the current $16-$25 so that they would have a more “livable” wage.
As I have stated repeatedly, when the low end workers got huge hourly pay increases, inflation would increase and this would lead to the worker tiers above them to begin fighting for their for equivalent raises as landlords and services providers raised their prices to sop up the new money in the system. This would leave the lowest tiers in the same relative position economically, which is exactly what is happening.
The bottom economic tiers may be gaining higher wages but everything they need to buy is generally more expensive from apartments to food to cars. On top, some percentage has jumped to a higher tax rate and will likely pay more taxes than they would have with their past “unlivable” wages.
hmk
hmk
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
These jobs aren’t supposed to pay enough to be a livable wage. They are supposed to be a temporary entry level job where you work short term while you “better” yourself to become more productive and financially secure. The boomers got that, the others are to triggered and entitled as they want everything for nothing. Work ethic is gone so MP who has a hard on for boomers needs to figure that one out
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Ever wonder what would happen if there was no minimum wage and tax rates were lower?
Would you use your tax savings to hire a full-time housekeeper? Have the gardener come twice a week? Employ people to clean the subways, remove graffiti…
Would people be more or less motivated to improve themselves?
It comes down to the demand and supply for/of labor. Competition or government meddling? Does any politician really know what gives best economic result?
The way things are going that ‘$16-$25’ will soon become $25-$40. Then, $80-$120… Jobs will become less available. Robots will proliferate. People will work to pay 90% tax.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Exactly. I always think of that guy holding the STOP sign at pothole repair work. Doing nothing else all day except holding this sign and given that most of these workers are civil union, gets $35+/hr. This is criminal. That job is worth maybe $6/hr.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Would you stand out in the hot sun all day for $6/hr? At some point when it becomes too expensive to do crap work for low wages those jobs will go unfilled. I expect that to start happening in agriculture first. The average age of american farmer is 60 and workers that normally come here to pick crops are finding better opportunities in other countries. Give it a few more years and see what happens, we’re at the tipping point, it won’t take but 5 to 8 more years at most for the real pain to start, today’s inflation will be looked back on as the ‘golden age’ of low inflation.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
That’s a poor 1st world argument. Plenty of people work for less in poor countries like India. You do what you have to do to survive, unless your government or local charities are willing to feed, clothe and help provide a roof over your head.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Would you stand in the sun for $6/hr if you were hungry enough?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Why as much as $6?
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
It is important to maintain the trajectory of medical cost increases otherwise the industry will be forced to be cost effective and actually innovate.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Everyone has been taught to plan for 2% inflation far into the future.
Some are simply trying to get a little ahead of Everyone.
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
It is indeed ridiculous that a health insurance program meant solely for the abject poor now covers a third of all Americans. Add Medicare, Obamacare, TRICARE, VA, FEHB and state/local govt. workers’ coverage and the government probably already covers most Americans. The US’ health system is insanely disorganized. For this level of government intervention, all other advanced countries mange to get a much more efficient healthcare system. Our system though is so disjointed that it is working against itself.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
Yes. Other health care systems provide far better care for the money. But the US is never going to utilize any other countries health care system. We would rather keep fighting politically about which party has the better plan for health care.
And there is nothing we can personally do about it. All we can do is look after ourselves, both physically and financially. Because constantly complaining about health care will only add to your stress and make you less healthy.
hmk
hmk
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
We pay almost double per capita on health care and rank dead last in health care outcomes in the industrialized world. Our health care system is FUBAR.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  hmk
A claim such as yours demands proof.
I have few doubts about the per capita cost. The reasons are many, and the obvious solution is overlooked–more innovation in health care delivery.
As for the claim: ‘dead last in health care outcomes…’ I seriously doubt. However, let’s consider other explanations for poor health, beginning with obesity. Ever talk to a surgeon about the complications arising from excess adipose tissue? It is always easy to place blame on others, yet when it comes to poor health outcomes, much of the blame belongs to misguided public education and accepted social standards that acclaim body images reflecting lack of exercise and poor nutrition.
As for all social issues, a lot of health problems actually stem from government involvement, or get considerably worse. Whether low income housing, education, health… the trajectory is to get worse, not better.
whirlaway
whirlaway
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
The US healthcare “system” is a veritable crazy quilt. Obolacare aka ACA is just yet another patch in that crazy quilt.

Here is how crazy the healthcare “system” is. First off, tying health insurance to employment. That in itself is a patch to start with. Then there is COBRA, which supposedly allows people to keep their job-related health insurance even after they lose their job. That means it is a patch on a patch.

However, how can someone pay 3X or 4X dollars for their COBRA coverage *after* they become unemployed when they were in fact struggling to pay the X dollars when they *were* employed? So, now there is another program to subsidize those payments. Which makes it a patch on a patch on a patch!

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Yep. That’s the way it is.
The solution? Work hard to become healthier and wealthier. Because you can’t change the system.
Or move to a country with a better system. Some Americans seem to be opting for that.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
When the quick fixes don’t work, only morons and politicians continue to make quick fixes. I believe Einstein commented on the tendency.
RonJ
RonJ
1 year ago
Reply to  whirlaway
For Covid, i have been my own doctor. I didn’t have a need to go to a corrupted medical establishment for treatment.
For those who wound up in the hospital from Covid, the government was paying the bill and was the actual client, not the patient. The PREP Act protocol was designed to incentivize the hospital into providing government agency designed, junk standard of care. Dr. Marik said he lost 50% less patients doing it his way, than the Prep Act way. He said he was forced to stand by and watch them die. He lost his job, after standing up for the patients.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  RonJ
“He lost his job, after standing up for the patients.”
Good. Too many quacks believing in cult nonsense.
Take your story to China. There are 5000 dying from Covid each day. Mostly unvaccinated of course.
DF.
Matt3
Matt3
1 year ago
Nearly 1 out of 3 on Medicaid. How many on Medicare? The rest of us paying crazy health insurance prices. Is this already a government health care program?
I look at all of the people not working and then when you see free health care, food stamps, rent subsidies, suspended student loan repayment and all the other free stuff, you understand why.
The whole omnibus makes voting look futile.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt3
Well, let’s see if the Republican House does anything about this other than grant more tax breaks to the wealthy.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
1 year ago
Reply to  Jojo
Without control of the Senate, and the ability to circumvent the Moron-in-Chief, nothing significant can happen. What can happen? More patches on patches. More of the same.
Competition innovates; compromise does NOT.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Merry Christmas!
Billy
Billy
1 year ago
The government gets bigger. More bills get past to keep growing it. More money gets created to pay for it. The money we worked for loses its purchasing power. Sure sounds like the beginning to communism. We even have the citizens that will call you crazy for thinking so.
Mouse
Mouse
1 year ago
The cold war was a race between the US and Soviet military industrial complexes — who would bankrupt their host economy first? The Soviets “won”.
Now we have a race between the US military industrial complex (~8% of GDP?) and the US healthcare complex (~17% of GDP?).
The US military is already outspending Russia 3 or 4 to 1 in Ukraine, and despite that it is a tie game. So throw more money at it!!!! After stunning victories in Afghanistan and Iraq and Syria and Libya … this Ukraine thing is in the bag.
The healthcare system is strained, hospital staff demoralized, and most of the money actually goes to administrative overhead. If you are late or miss your doctors appointment time, you get fined. If you show up on time, its a sure thing you will have to wait 45min to an hour, and then your doctor will buzz through and give you 5-10 minutes. Since Obamacare was made law, a very overpriced system is now overpriced and declining quality as well.
Other countries spend far less, but get better health outcomes. The bulge of the baby boomers is just now hitting 65. The spending bulge from them is still 5-10 years away.
Healthcare will bankrupt the federal government, and ironically it will be healthcare spending (not the Russians) that ends the US ability to start wars all over the globe.
I am on the computer getting a reprieve from my niece playing xmas carols on her flute? recorder? I’m not sure what the instrument is called, but I need an aspirin. I’m not sure what song it is, but it goes high pitched screech, low screech, high pitched screech.
Merry Xmas to all who still think for themselves.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
The pandemic arrangements were a great boon. Instead of waiting in doctor’s waiting room, the doctor phoned home. Late as usual, but I was still sitting home. Why didn’t they think about it before?
Hope they don’t screw up the system, again.
Jojo
Jojo
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
“The US military is already outspending Russia 3 or 4 to 1 in Ukraine, and despite that it is a tie game”
it’s only a tie game because we aren’t attacking Russia itself or generally allowing Ukraine to do so. Otherwise, Russia would be looking like Ukraine now and Putin might well say, let the nukes fly.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mouse
Must be a recorder as I play a flute and they don’t screech. 😉
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Anyone else tired of Christmas music.
Poll: which is your least favorite?
Note that Twitter only allows 4 or fewer choices.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
I have avoided the venues of public gathering where this music is played, for some years.
Happily forgotten about the musical pieces of Christmas cheer.
Classical music all day.
Merry Christmas!
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Oh no Mish, you are going to get accused of starting a “war on christmas” now, get your apology ready for fox news pundits.

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