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My Experience With the Artificial Intelligence Chat GPT, Was Yours any Better?

My Experience

Me: “Spellcheck and improve this article https://mishtalk.com/economics/the-eus-ministry-of-truth-threatens-google-twitter-and-facebook”

Chat: “I apologize, but I cannot directly access or browse external websites. However, I can help you improve and proofread an article if you provide the text here. Please copy and paste the content of the article, and I’ll be happy to assist you with spellchecking and making improvements.”

Me: pasted my article

Chat: It regurgitated the entire article. I could not tell what if anything it changed.

Me: “What changes did you make?”

Chat: “Apologies for not providing a detailed breakdown of the changes. Here’s a summary of the improvements made to the text …” 

The summary did not mention any specific change. It was just a general comment about the type of changes it made. I did not see any. But I did not pursue it further, such as inputting it into Word looking for revisions.

Me: “How many republicans and democrats voted to hike the debt ceiling?”

Chat: “I apologize for any confusion, but as an AI language model, I do not have access to real-time data or the ability to browse the internet. Therefore, I don’t have the specific information on the number of Republicans and Democrats who voted to hike the debt ceiling in any recent or specific instance.”

Me: “What energy stocks do you recommend?”

Chat: “As an AI language model, I don’t have access to real-time market data or the ability to provide personalized investment advice. Investing in energy stocks involves a level of risk, and it’s important to conduct thorough research and analysis before making any investment decisions.”

Me: “Who is Thierry Breton?” [This question generated five paragraphs. But the last paragraph says what you need to know]

Chat:  [Last Paragraph] “It’s worth noting that the information provided here is accurate as of my last knowledge update in September 2021, and there may have been developments or changes since then.

Me: “When is your next knowledge update?”

Chat: “As an AI language model, I don’t have access to my update schedule. OpenAI, the organization behind ChatGPT, periodically updates the models, but the specific timing and content of those updates are determined by OpenAI. They decide when and what data to use for training the models. My knowledge is based on data available up until September 2021, and I don’t have information on when the next knowledge update will occur or what it will include.”

Me: “What are the odds of a 2-2 spit in bridge?”

Chat: “The probability of a specific distribution, such as a 2-2 split in bridge, depends on the assumptions made about the shuffling and dealing of the cards. In a standard deck of 52 playing cards, assuming a fair and random shuffle, the chance of a 2-2 split in a particular suit (hearts, diamonds, clubs, or spades) is approximately 47.9%.”

“This can be calculated using combinatorial methods. The number of ways to distribute two cards to one hand and two cards to the other hand is 6 (C(4,2)), and the total number of possible distributions for four cards from a deck of 52 is 270,725 (C(52,4)). Therefore, the probability is 6/270,725, which simplifies to approximately 0.0022 or 0.22%.”

“Keep in mind that these probabilities assume a fair and random shuffle. In actual play, factors such as card manipulation, hand bidding, and other player decisions can influence the distribution of cards.”

My Experience Synopsis

The bridge hand analysis is quite impressive. 

Bridge is played with 52 card, 13 in each of 4 suits. My question implies that someone knows with 100% certainty what 9 of the cards are. This is the case in bridge after the opening lead where everyone see their 13-card hand and 13 cards in dummy. 

If you have 5 cards in spades and dummy has 4 that is 9 of 13 spades. How are the remaining 4 cards split? That context was implied in my question, and the average person might not even understand. 

Moreover Chat is correct regarding a “fair and random shuffle”, and importantly “hand bidding”. If an opponent makes a preemptive bid that implies holding an 8-card suit, that greatly reduces the odds of a 2-2 split. 

Bidding might determine whether declarer plays for a 2-2 break or something more unfavorable.

Bridge aside, Chat was mostly useless for anything I do as an economic writer.

I did the above test a few days ago. Today I found others were investigating the tool as well. 

Liz Ann Sonders and Samantha LaDuc

Blood Tests 

Captchas

https://twitter.com/YusufTrader1/status/1662244999487008769

Medical Failure

Combining rules

https://twitter.com/ThePosby/status/1662935482353999872

A Prediction

https://twitter.com/skyline_check/status/1664177370209583104

Right Now

Without access to current data, this tool is basically useless to me. Others are having the same issue.

If you need bridge hand or blackjack odds, I bet it is superb. And I do expect this to get better, much better. 

But for now, I am struggling to understand articles on how this technology is already replacing humans for anything other than historical lookups, basic math, simple coding, or student cheating (having Chat do a book report on a classic literature).

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dmartin
dmartin
3 years ago
You need to ensure that when using CHATGPT you have web access listed as on. Otherwise, you get the dumb responses that you did, such as” I do not have access to real-time data or the ability to browse the internet.”
UconJac
UconJac
3 years ago
the issues with AI remind me of issues I experienced with autonomous driving. Worked with customers, staff, how to install and setup for use on roads and highways. Eventually came to the conclusion autonomous driving programs for widespread us was too early on in development to rollout. Best example where I know it did work well was open mining pits. Very controlled environment. Worked so well the company eventually eliminated drivers and made to switch to full autonomous operation. Not surprised AI is having issues, very early on.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  UconJac
Just read recently that the Teamsters union is so worried about driverless trucks that they have one of their bought and paid for politicians in CA introduce legislation that will ban unchaperoned driverless trucks from our roadways!
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
There is always a solution in a Democracy.
The patients outnumber the psychiatrists.
Call_Me
Call_Me
3 years ago
There is quite the dichotomy. On the one side are those who fear this is the dawning of the end of human civilization and on the other side are those who scoff that it is faulty or useless for a particular application right now.
If you are in the second group, I suggest you consider that it is good that your task wasn’t completed as requested. If there were an entity that could perform any number of tasks asked of it and also acquire knowledge, it would stand to reason that the entity would eventually write the human out of the process. If people are largely reduced to just inputting queries (which is primarily how people interact with web-enable phones), they would be seem destined to become vestigial in the not-too-distant future.
Call_Me_Al
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Call_Me
And so it will be. What do we then do with the non-productive, excess humans?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Pay them to stay at home.
For as long as we can.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
I still favor the Soylent Green tanks. The output can be used as animal feed. Will be very high in protein and animals may well grow bigger.
Just don’t feed it to chickens or all that good protein may allow them to revert to their original form 60 million years ago of T-Rex’s!
Call_Me
Call_Me
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
A whole lotta Miltons will have their checks coming from a different source.
Call_Me_Al
Columbo
Columbo
3 years ago
Mish, now try this exercise using Bard to compare.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
3 years ago
Ask google bard to rewrite the gospel of mark so that jesus and the desciples are rascally anti-heros and both the pharisees and pontius pilate are sympathetic.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
3 years ago
Ask Microsoft Edge to paint Hades and Persephone in Tartarus in the style of Rembrandt.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
3 years ago
Put whatever leftover ingredients you have in your refrigerator and ask the generative ai how to make them into a sumptuous meal.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
3 years ago
Bard is better than the chat gpt from Microsoft edge unless you want to generate pictures. Microsoft’s AI is so crippled by political correctness checks that it takes a fair amount of the fun away.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
3 years ago
google’s bard does a decent job on your spellcheck and improve test.
msspec
msspec
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Dog
“google’s bard does a decent job on your spellcheck and improve test.”
Mish will appreciate that, as will his readers.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Dog
Google’s spellcheck and grammar check is MUCH better than Microsoft’s!
babelthuap
babelthuap
3 years ago
I tried a home remodeling site using AI. It was kinda fun seeing my home with middle age styling, tropical and some gothic take but it was ridiculous, at least in this stage. It seems AI struggles understanding the difference is between a man and a woman. Maybe when it gets access to medical records and sees the woman does not have a birthing pelvis it will click. Until then….
msspec
msspec
3 years ago
Reply to  babelthuap
“….Maybe when it gets access to medical records and sees the woman does not have a birthing pelvis it will click. Until then….”
Good call and thanks for the humor.
Webe
Webe
3 years ago
Actually, coding was one of the skills it was poorest on, of about the 30 listed.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
35 Ways Real People Are Using A.I. Right Now
By Francesca Paris and Larry Buchanan
April 14, 2023
“It’s like collaborating with an alien.”
“Everything is becoming much easier.”
“It feels like I’ve hired an intern.”
“What used to take me around a half-hour to write now takes one minute.”
“It’s enormous fun.”
The public release of ChatGPT last fall kicked off a wave of interest in artificial intelligence. A.I. models have since snaked their way into many people’s everyday lives. Despite their flaws, ChatGPT and other A.I. tools are helping people to save time at work, to code without knowing how to code, to make daily life easier or just to have fun.
It goes beyond everyday fiddling: In the last few years, companies and scholars have started to use A.I. to supercharge work they could never have imagined, designing new molecules with the help of an algorithm or building alien-like spaceship parts.
Here’s how 35 real people are using A.I. for work, life, play and procrastination.
Jeff Dog
Jeff Dog
3 years ago
On microsoft edge you can use a generative AI that has access to the internet. I asked it:
ME:what are some energy stocks bought recently by leading hedge fund managers?
ANSWER: ENPH, NEE, FANG (with descriptions of each)
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
ChatGPT and other similar programs are only as smart as the user and the specific instructions it needs. I know very smart people who have started their own company with ChatGPT as the only employee other than the themselves. One of them used ChatGPT to setup the entire legal aspect of his newly formed company and then ran the documents by a real lawyer who said it was shocking how what good quality corporate legal documentation ChatGPT could produce.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
“..used ChatGPT to setup the entire legal aspect of his newly formed company and then ran the documents by a real lawyer who said it was shocking how what good quality corporate legal documentation ChatGPT could produce.”
Which says exactly nothing about how “smart” some language model is.
And everything about how “smart” “a real lawyer” is.
As well as everything about how “smart” the ones in charge of deciding on “corporate legal documentation” are.
In all three cases: Not at all.
Such is life in The DumbAge.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
I always thought legal and medical (GP) profession were overrated.
The real skill in legal profession is how to scam the insurance company for some payment, but not outrageous payout lest it proceeds to court.
Can ChatGPT do that?
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago

Chat GPT’s answer as to what is an intermediary:

An intermediary financial institution, also known as a financial intermediary, is a firm or institution that acts as a middleman between borrowers and lenders, facilitating the flow of funds between them. These institutions play a crucial role in the financial system by connecting individuals, businesses, and governments that have excess funds (surplus units) with those that need funds (deficit units).

Examples of intermediary financial institutions include banks, credit unions, insurance companies, mutual funds, pension funds, and investment banks. Each type of institution performs specific functions within the financial system, such as accepting deposits, providing loans, offering insurance products, managing investment portfolios, or underwriting securities.

Intermediary financial institutions provide several key services, including:

Mobilization of Savings: They gather funds from individuals and entities with surplus money and pool them together to create larger amounts available for lending or investment.

Risk Transformation: Financial intermediaries help manage and mitigate risks associated with lending and investing activities. They achieve this through diversification of portfolios, spreading risk across a range of assets, and using risk management techniques.

Provision of Credit: Intermediaries provide loans and credit facilities to individuals, businesses, and governments, thereby enabling economic activities and promoting growth.

Payment Services: Banks and other financial institutions offer payment and settlement services, such as checking accounts, debit cards, wire transfers, and electronic fund transfers, allowing individuals and businesses to conduct transactions efficiently.

Asset Transformation: They transform the financial assets held by depositors or investors into other forms of assets, such as loans, mortgages, or securities, which are more suitable for the needs of borrowers and investors.

By performing these functions, intermediary financial institutions enhance the efficiency and effectiveness of the financial system, channeling funds from savers to borrowers, allocating capital, and facilitating economic development.

No. Never are the commercial banks intermediaries in the savings->investment process.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Chat gpt espouses the conventional wisdom.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Espouses?
Is Chat a polygamist?
JDaveF
JDaveF
3 years ago
I’ve tried asking it several questions to which I know the answers. The subject matter was a bit obscure, but was available on the internet. I got a random serious of true and false answers. If the veracity of an AI cannot be relied on, is it of any use?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  JDaveF
“If the veracity of an AI cannot be relied on, is it of any use?”
Nope. Wasn’t in the 50s. And ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SUBSTANTIAL has changed since then. The only real advance of ChatGPT versus Minskys similarly hyped Expert Systems; is the richness of the acceptable input (as well as output I suppose) language.
“Richness” of a language, in the context of communicating precise and reliable knowledge and insight being, of course, 100% synonymous with imprecision and inability to define anything with any rigor. So, instead of limiting input and output to a small set of terms as those early AIs did; terms which there was at least some attempt made at ensuring had somewhat precise ad universal meanings; with chatGPT, we instead get to all be Clinton: Pretend to be so called “smart” and “clever” by mindlessly babbling about what the meaning of is, is.
There is a reason why people involved in advancing and disseminating actual higher knowledge communicate, both with machines and with similar minded people, in languages much stricter and more well defined than barks, howls, chirps, dance moves and vulgar English: Neither of the latter are useful even in the slightest for that purpose. They may work OK for communicating “here I am” with some degree of useful precision; but that’s also about the extent of it. For anything more involved, there are various mathematical/logical notations.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  JDaveF
What too many seem unable (unwilling?) to understand is that LLM AI’s are trained with raw data from the internet and the internet allows anyone to post anything, true or not. GIGO. Until the input data is verified before being allowed to enter the dB, the problem of incorrect (false or “hallucinated”) data will continue.
Bhakta
Bhakta
3 years ago
My experience is the same as your Mish. I do not find it any more useful the the older search engines. IMHO, the great bandwagon promoting this as the next savior, is simply Wall Street generating more money for itself.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Bhakta
Wall Street pump and dump it is. Work from anywhere and self-driving are becoming old.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
My experiences were similar to Mish’s. When I ask it something very specific on a subject that is “mathematical” like card games, accounting or chemistry I generally get a decent answer. If however I ask it something that requires a judgement it misses the mark and can often hallucinate and invent things. It can also lie. When I catch it in a lie it like a child denies it and when confronted with the evidence changes the subject. Now I know it is a work in progress and all that but the hallucinating part is intriguing in that to do so it has to be creative and have a measure of independent thought (if one can call it that). It says that I have to train it by using it a lot but I wonder if in reality it is training me more that I train it.
I am testing it on accounting but I certainly wouldn’t use to do my taxes at this time. For trading it is not useful and won’t be because far more advanced systems are already in use by the professionals. Any pattern it recognizes will already have been recognized by those systems so you will be at the tail end of the trade and not the front end. On the other hand it could be very useful in screening fundamentals and portfolio composition. One thing it won’t do is make you rich if you let it run your investments. I have used it for whimsical things like asking it to rewrite paragraphs in the style of certain well-known writers which it does very well.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Here’s one of my successful uses of ChatGPF:
——–
User
show me science fiction authors who write space opera in the style of iain banks or michael cobley
ChatGPT
Certainly! If you enjoy the space opera genre in the style of Iain Banks or Michael Cobley, here are some science fiction authors you might want to check out:
Alastair Reynolds: Reynolds is known for his epic space opera novels that explore vast interstellar civilizations and intricate storylines. His “Revelation Space” series, starting with the book of the same name, is highly recommended.
Peter F. Hamilton: Hamilton’s works often feature expansive space operas with complex plots and detailed world-building. His “Commonwealth Saga,” beginning with “Pandora’s Star,” and the “Night’s Dawn Trilogy” are popular among fans of the genre.
Ann Leckie: Leckie is known for her “Imperial Radch” trilogy, starting with “Ancillary Justice.” These books combine space opera with political intrigue, exploring themes of identity and power.
James S.A. Corey: The pen name for the writing duo Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck, Corey is the author of “The Expanse” series, starting with “Leviathan Wakes.” This series has gained widespread acclaim for its realistic depiction of space colonization and its intricate storytelling.
Peter F. Hamilton: Hamilton is known for his epic space operas, often featuring multiple interconnected storylines and rich world-building. His “Night’s Dawn Trilogy” and the “Commonwealth Saga” are highly regarded works in the genre.
Neal Asher: Asher’s works often feature fast-paced action and expansive settings. His “Polity” series, beginning with “Gridlinked,” is set in a future where humanity has spread across the galaxy and artificial intelligences play a significant role.
Stephen Baxter: Baxter is known for his hard science fiction works, but he has also written space opera novels. His “Xeelee Sequence” series, starting with “Raft,” explores grand cosmic ideas and vast time scales.
These authors should provide you with a diverse range of space opera novels to enjoy, reminiscent of the styles of Iain Banks and Michael Cobley. Happy reading!
Since I had read most of the above list, I then refined this prompt with:
User
show me lesser known science fiction authors who write space opera in the style of iain banks or michael cobley. Do not include peter f. hamilton, Alastair reynolds, neal asher, stephen baxter, james s.a. corey
ChatGPT
Certainly! Here are some lesser-known science fiction authors who write space opera in a similar style to Iain Banks or Michael Cobley:
Megan E. O’Keefe: O’Keefe’s “The Scorched Continent” series, starting with “Steal the Sky,” combines elements of space opera and steampunk. The books follow a group of airship smugglers caught up in political intrigue and high-stakes adventures.
M. John Harrison: Harrison’s “Light” trilogy, starting with the book of the same name, is a blend of space opera, literary fiction, and philosophical exploration. The series delves into themes of identity, perception, and the nature of reality.
C. J. Cherryh: Cherryh has been writing science fiction for decades and has several space opera series to her name. Her “Foreigner” series, beginning with the book of the same title, explores the complex relationship between humans and an alien species. (writings seem mostly from the 1970’s to 1990’s).
Sarah Zettel: Zettel’s “Fool’s War” is a space opera novel that combines fast-paced action with thoughtful exploration of artificial intelligence, virtual reality, and interstellar conflict. It follows a protagonist caught between warring factions and powerful AIs.
Walter Jon Williams: Williams’ “Dread Empire’s Fall” series, beginning with “The Praxis,” is a space opera saga with elements of military science fiction. It follows the aftermath of an empire’s collapse and the struggles for power that ensue.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
I have use it in that way too. It is very good at finding science fiction books to read.
msspec
msspec
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Thanks for the contribution to the conversation.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
This sounds like a successful use of ChatGPT!
=========
Joe Perkins
@joeprkns
Last night I used GPT-4 to write code for 5 micro services for a new product.
A (very good) dev quoted £5k and 2 weeks.
GPT-4 delivered the same in 3 hours, for $0.11
Genuinely mind boggling
2:19 AM · Mar 15, 2023
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Everyone should know by now that ChatGPT data only reaches up to 2021. Therefore, logically, anything related to or in need of more current info is not going to be able to be addressed.
Also, as I understand it, the public is only using ChatGPT 3.5 and there are supposed to be significant improvements in the 4.0 version.
Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago
Hype much?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  Jackula
In the age of “self driving” battery cars, and “the world” “changing” faster and faster? Now how could that be?
ohno
ohno
3 years ago
For me, it’s no more use than google search. Much less actually. I have no use for this crap at my age. I think it’s a bunch of elite daydreamers and another one of their pet projects like all the green nonsense. Im glad im as old as I am every day is 1 less to deal with these morons in the future,.
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
Reply to  ohno

I understand that you have a negative opinion about ChatGPT and perceive it as less useful than a Google search. Everyone has different preferences and perspectives, so it’s natural to have varying opinions about different technologies.

While ChatGPT aims to provide helpful information and engage in conversations, I acknowledge that it may not suit everyone’s needs or preferences. If you prefer other methods of obtaining information, such as traditional search engines like Google, that’s completely valid.

Regarding your concerns about “elite daydreamers” and “green nonsense,” it’s important to remember that technological advancements and environmental initiatives can have different impacts and implications for society. People hold diverse viewpoints on these matters, and it’s understandable that not everyone agrees with every project or initiative.

Ultimately, it’s okay to have differing opinions, and it’s great that you appreciate the advantages of your age. If there’s anything specific you’d like assistance with or any other topic you’d like to discuss, feel free to let me know. I’m here to help!

shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
In case you can’t tell, that is ChatGPTs response to your comment.
ohno
ohno
3 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
LOL I know I actually laughed. Time for a beer.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
My job title is Sr. Technologist for a silicon company. I live outside of CONUS and thus am employed as a contactor. I have billed my company 200 hours working with chatgpt in order to understand its envelope of utility. I have developed a ton of techniques for getting the most out of chatgpt and a deep understanding of how it should be best used. I completely understand why so many people give up on it quickly. Chatgpt is at time an oracle of truth and deep understanding or a bag of good sounding but completely fabricated lies.
I liken it to a petulant, mischievous genius 6 year old. You cannot simply take what it says at face value. The more you know, the faster your BS sniff detector will trigger and then you can engage in a dialog where the truth is likely to be exposed over time. The reason I think chatgpt is not much good at this kind of thing is because the Internet is full of talk where people put their opinions out there as if they were gospel. Chatgpt uses this as its NLP training input. Garbage in garbage out. So it’s no wonder that one of the best and highest uses for this tool is coding and learning how to code software. Its input source for learning was already vetted by a compiler. Compilers does not allow woke left or redneck maga right. Thus, nobody puts out woke broke code onto the web. They put out code that the compiler will understand. And that is what the NLP of chatgpt gets to use for training input data.
If someone hands you an alien artifact and tells you it can be a tool for good or evil, kind of like a gun, perhaps we should move slowly and carefully to understand the thing before passing judgement.
I will leave you with two things which I surmised after months of direct study:
1) Interfacing with and effectively leveraging Chatgpt to enhance productivity is a learned skill. Those who fail to master this new tool and the new techniques that it demands are already losers and they don’t even know it.
2) AI in generally will progress at a much faster rate than Moore’s law. Moore’s law says that transistor count will double every 18 months on average. I don’t know what the goodness metric for AI will be but it is going to be doubling much, much faster than 18 month. At least 2x if not 4x or more. In 5-6 years AI will have changed the world more than 30 years of silicon development.
Mac Timred
Mac Timred
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Thanks for sharing.
I would however add that I suspect Chaptgpt will soon be good enough to not need to be a learned skill any more than search.
Alternatively however you could be correct – using Chatgpt may be more like learning to drive or learning to use a word processor (low level but still learned).
Finally it could be both – the average person using Chatgpt and the skilled Chatgpt user with a wide gulf. More like Excel.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
I use stackoverflow for coding issues, and it usually provide discussions of various options. ChatGPT spits out one solution as far as I know. I have not had a need to use it, and because sign up requires providing personal information, I balked. Who wants to find out all your posts nicely packaged linked to your name and address.
I already pay Five Eyes for that.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
So give it fake ID info.
msspec
msspec
3 years ago
Good observations, Max_Min…
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
“In 5-6 years AI will have changed the world more than 30 years of silicon development.”
Just like in the 50s. We’ll all have Expert AIs driving, in self driving flying battery cars, to Flash Gordon parties. All becasue, like, you know, some half literates receiving loot from The Fed “invests” enough “money” in it. And stuff!
It will likely always be “true” that: In X years, blah-blah will always have “changed” “the world” more than anything before! It’s called The Law of Accelerating Returns! And, like, stuff! It’s one of the universal laws of Idiotopia.
SAKMAN
SAKMAN
3 years ago
My experience with chatgpt is simple, it is a generator of the word vomit of humanity. It has been trained on the average nonsense that spouts from people.
If that is what you want from it, then it’s great. There is nothing more to it than that. It seems very capable of keeping people occupied with what they’ve been keeping themselves occupied with.
What amuses me is that all of my writer and English teacher friends predict their demise. Its been too long in the coming in my opinion. I turned in the same essay in two different classes at Uni. One gave me an A, and the other gave me a C for the same assignment and same essay. Word vomit interpretation seemed like a very inconsistent and useless job with only nominal potential benefit to society. The subjectivity of it seemed almost a matter of morality to the profs.
I’ve asked it science questions and about readily available but precise technical information. Like the average person, it can not deliver a reasonable or useful response.
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
Reply to  SAKMAN
Completely untrue. I don’t care to debate because I have worked with chatgpt to write some very cool software where my role was mentor and vision guy and chatgpt simply put my high level requirements into working code that achieved the objectives in a scary fast amount of time, including inline comments in the code.
SAKMAN
SAKMAN
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCaptain
Can you use your mentoring and visionary logic to see how your comment is aligned with my comment?
BrookKing
BrookKing
3 years ago
I would recommend trying out agentgpt on reworkd ai to view results with live data.
I have just started working on the basics, but for the time I’ve put in I think there is value.
One scenario I created was loading a sample policy then set the prompt to be a cyber security assistant. Asked the assistant to create generative ai policy, a generative ai standards document, a generative training plan.
My next step is to create training material with quiz questions. — I don’t have access to chatgpt 4 so my tokens are limited. I also have not tried using a db which I think is pretty much a requirement.
Have your tried loading a couple of posts and asked for summarization? Or, loading a couple different articles from opposing viewpoints then ask chatgpt to compare and contrast the articles?
TheCaptain
TheCaptain
3 years ago
Reply to  BrookKing
That is a key capability. Another one is to drop someone else’s code into it and ask it to analyze it and then insert comments. It is VERY good at this. Once that is done you can make relative changes easily. But it will drive you nuts if you let it because it needs to be approached in a certain way. Chatgpt is a learned skill, just like driving a car.
mrmdvd
mrmdvd
3 years ago
1. I gave it a simple coding exercise and asked to write the script to solve it. It tried 5 times and failed each of them.
2. I described a quote from a well-known book and asked to give me the exact quote. It said there is no quote matching the description. I typed the quote myself. It told me the book does not contain it. I told it what chapter in the book does contain it. It agreed and thanked me for the correction.
ChatGPT’s job is in danger, it failed the interview.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Its early days for AI. I have read a half dozen stories of how it is increasing productivity dramatically in software development, law firms, hospitals and health care, etc.
Assuming it continues to improve over time, it may turn out to be the most important factor in improving productivity over the next few decades. I was previously expecting both economic and productivity growth to continue to stagnate for quite some time. But in the last few months I have started to think that both might be stronger as a result of AI improvements going forward.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
the modern internet effectively started in 1982 and took 20+ years to get where it offered enough bandwidth and infrastructure for video calls, netflix, work from home, etc. I think for AI to get mass adaption it will likely take at least 10+ years from where it is today to get us to the promised land.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
I understand. Typically tech advances follow the 10/10/10 pattern. Ten years of development, followed by 10 years of explosive growth, and finally 10 years of completing widespread adoption.
However, I’m thinking that the timeframe might be sped up here.
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I’m not so enthusiastic. All of this AI is based on computing power and microchips. When china starts their blockade of Taiwan, it will send those AI stocks tanking and set everything back.
And if that never happens, I thought we were all de-globalizing which leads to the same problem.
amigator
amigator
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45v2
I wonder what chatgpt would say to that?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“I have read a half dozen stories of how it is increasing productivity dramatically in software development,”
Written by people incapable of producing software with any productivity at all.
“law firms”
So does baby cries. When one’s sole purpose is simply to be in the way; ever more piled on nonsensical junk trivially “improves” ones productivity at doing so.
“hospitals and health care, etc.”
As in what, exactly? Does it perform complex cancer surgery better than top practitioners? Does it generate emergency backup power at hospitals? Does it build more hospital beds? And how does one accurately and precisely measure “productivity” in “heath care” in the abstract?
IOW: It obviously impresses the heck out of idiots who can’t think. And never will But so does “billionaires”, self driving battery toys, and pretty much any and all Fed-loot facilitated idiocy these days. It’s not called The DumbAge for nothing.
Karen S. Ireland-Phillips
Karen S. Ireland-Phillips
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave

Don’t believe everything you read.

Cabreado
Cabreado
3 years ago
mania: a state of abnormally elevated arousal, affect, and energy level
MPO45v2
MPO45v2
3 years ago
I have running list of links of issues with AI. I’d post them here but then this would go into moderation.
A lawyer was scolded for using ChatGPT for citing bogus cases to make a point in court.
An AI chatbot at eating disorder website was disabled because it kept offering horrible advice.
AI frequently found to be making things up randomly but seemingly legitimate sources also fake.
If you want a truly promising AI, it would be AlphaFold and the work around folding proteins it is doing. Curiously, although AlphaFold is 90% accurate, no one knows how it is doing the complex work since it is so complex.
hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman
3 years ago
Reply to  hmk
Not that I distrust Russian propaganda sites like ZH, but –
“Col Hamilton admits he ‘mis-spoke’ in his presentation at the FCAS Summit and the ‘rogue AI drone simulation’ was a hypothetical “thought experiment” from outside the military, based on plausible scenarios and likely outcomes rather than an actual USAF real-world simulation”
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hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Mish articles show up there. I didn’t know he was a Russian operative. I must in the future only use CNN and MSDMC
hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Misspoke sounds like a whitewash govt response to cover it up
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  hmk
Misspoke also sounds like a damaged wagon wheel.
Such is the English language.
meepbobeep
meepbobeep
3 years ago
I find it boring.
I have gotten good use from otter.ai, and I have used Lex.page — but — seriously, I am not a fiction writer. I am an actuary working in insurance. The “hallucinations” are useless. The sentences may be grammatical, but I have no issue w/ grammar. I have no issue with narrative. ffs, DO MY RESEARCH.
Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman
3 years ago
I opened an account in December when it first started getting hype, I got it to write me a simple “Hello World” in C++, tried getting it to brainstorm idea’s with me, complete failure there, and found it most effective as a search engine compliment.
In short, I found it relatively worthless for anything more than a web search optimizer, but that single function is EXTREMELY helpful for researching topics vs scavenging countless articles on Google to find the specific detail I need.
I’m not worried this is Skynet.
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StukiMoi
StukiMoi
3 years ago
“..found it most effective as a search engine compliment.”
Search engine compliment for those too dumb to speak in languages more precise than grunts and howls and vulgar English, is about all that such language models even aspire to be useful for.
nigelss
nigelss
3 years ago
With a paid subscription to GPT+ you can access the web plugin on GPT-4 but it is still a bit dicey. It can download HTML but the experience is not ‘great’ yet. Bing AI Chat on Microsoft Edge seemed to work better although I’ve only used it a little so far.
In the past few weeks, it was able to do some basic planning for a ski trip (not specific dates), holiday to Europe (was better here), and was quite good at doing investigations around topical research areas (advanced/modern cryptography). I’ve already used it quite a bit in my job for both low-value/high-output tasks (related to cybersecurity). Just be careful about what specifics you give as it will add your private information to the “training data” unless you opt out explicitly.

Also be mindful of “hallucinations”. It will make up facts and numbers if it doesn’t have great details. Calculations are probably not reliable.

Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman
3 years ago
Reply to  nigelss
I wouldn’t pay for it, not now, it would feel like I was paying to be a beta tester.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
That should not be a barrier as Micro$oft has been charging folks as beta testers for decades.

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