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National Ignition Facility Says We Are On the Threshold of Fusion Ignition

Threshold of Fusion Ignition

Please consider the Threshold of Fusion Ignition

On Aug. 8, 2021, an experiment at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory’s (LLNL’s) National Ignition Facility (NIF) made a significant step toward ignition, achieving a yield of more than 1.3 megajoules (MJ). This advancement puts researchers at the threshold of fusion ignition, an important goal of the NIF, and opens access to a new experimental regime.

The experiment was enabled by focusing laser light from NIF — the size of three football fields — onto a target the size of a BB that produces a hot-spot the diameter of a human hair, generating more than 10 quadrillion watts of fusion power for 100 trillionths of a second.

“These extraordinary results from NIF advance the science that NNSA depends on to modernize our nuclear weapons and production as well as open new avenues of research,” said Jill Hruby, DOE under secretary for Nuclear Security and NNSA administrator.

“Gaining experimental access to thermonuclear burn in the laboratory is the culmination of decades of scientific and technological work stretching across nearly 50 years,” said Los Alamos National Laboratory Director Thomas Mason. “This enables experiments that will check theory and simulation in the high energy density regime more rigorously than ever possible before and will enable fundamental achievements in applied science and engineering.”

Fusion vs Fission

Fission produces nuclear waste. Clean energy proponents will have nothing to do with it, no matter how safe it is. 

Fusion has been the holy grail for decades. NASA reports the sun does some of each. 

Although the energy produced by fission is comparable to what is produced by fusion, the core of the sun is dominated by hydrogen and at temperatures where hydrogen fusion is possible, so that the dominant source of energy per cubic meter is in fusion rather then the fission of very low abundance radioisotopes. Fission is not a significant source of energy so long as the temperatures and densities are high enough for fusion to occur.

Temperature of the Sun

  • The surface temperature of the sun is 5,778K. 
  • Lead melts at 621.5°F. 
  • Aluminum melts at 1,221°F. 
  • Copper melts at 1,984°F. 
  • Tungsten, the highest melting point alloy, melts at 6,170°F.

6,170°F sounds high. But here is the conversion.

(6170°F − 32) × 5/9 + 273.15 = 3683.15°K

How Nuclear Fusion Reactors Work

How Stuff Works explains How Nuclear Fusion Reactors Work.

  • Fusion requires temperatures of about 100 million° Kelvin (approximately six times hotter than the sun’s core).
  • At these temperatures, hydrogen is a plasma, not a gas. Plasma is a high-energy state of matter in which all the electrons are stripped from atoms and move freely about.
  • The sun achieves these temperatures by its large mass and the force of gravity compressing this mass in the core. We must use energy from microwaves, lasers and ion particles to achieve these temperatures.

EuroFusion

The EuroFusion project repeats the above.

Deuterium-tritium fusion reactions require temperatures in excess of 100 million degrees. To achieve these remarkable temperatures, three separate heating systems are usually used in tokamaks, each capable of delivering well over a million watts of power to the fuel. Together they generate and sustain plasma that is easily hot enough for the high energy collisions required for fusion to occur.

The constituents of a 100 million-degree plasma are moving about really fast, and, if left alone would soon be so far apart as to render collisions extremely unlikely. To keep the density of the plasma high enough to ensure collisions do actually occur, the plasma vessel is surrounded by huge electromagnets. These create magnetic fields 10,000 times stronger than the Earth’s magnetic field and confine the plasma to perpetually circulate within the ring-shaped vessel. However if the plasma gets too dense then collisions of a different kind – between nuclei and electrons – begin to create large amounts of radiation. This radiation, called bremsstrahlung, saps energy from the plasma and prevents fusion from occurring – the optimum density value is around one millionth of the atmosphere.

Easily? Sustainable? 

The International Atomic Energy Agency aggresses some issues in What is Fusion, and Why Is It So Difficult to Achieve?

Simply put, nuclear fusion is the process by which two light atomic nuclei combine to form a single heavier one while releasing massive amounts of energy. Fusion reactions take place in a state of matter called plasma — a hot, charged gas made of positive ions and free-moving electrons that has unique properties distinct from solids, liquids and gases.

To fuse on our sun, nuclei need to collide with each other at very high temperatures, exceeding ten million degrees Celsius, to enable them to overcome their mutual electrical repulsion. Once the nuclei overcome this repulsion and come within a very close range of each other, the attractive nuclear force between them will outweigh the electrical repulsion and allow them to fuse. For this to happen, the nuclei must be confined within a small space to increase the chances of collision. In the sun, the extreme pressure produced by its immense gravity create the conditions for fusion to happen.

The amount of energy produced from fusion is very large — four times as much as nuclear fission reactions — and fusion reactions can be the basis of future fusion power reactors. Plans call for first-generation fusion reactors to use a mixture of deuterium and tritium — heavy types of hydrogen. In theory, with just a few grams of these reactants, it is possible to produce a terajoule of energy, which is approximately the energy one person in a developed country needs over sixty years.

On earth, we need temperatures exceeding 100 million degrees Celsius and intense pressure to make deuterium and tritium fuse, and sufficient confinement to hold the plasma and maintain the fusion reaction long enough for a net power gain, i.e. the ratio of the fusion power produced to the power used to heat the plasma.

Nuclear fusion and plasma physics research are carried out in more than 50 countries, and fusion reactions have been successfully achieved in many experiments, albeit without demonstrating a net fusion power gain. How long it will take to recreate the process of the stars will depend on mobilizing resources through global partnerships and collaboration.

Threshold of What?

I would like to believe we are on the threshold of amazingly clean energy to power all of our need.

More accurately, I would like to see that happen whether anyone believes it or not.

I am amazed at the scientific breakthroughs and temperatures achieved but from a practical standpoint I have to ask the threshold of what?

We have succeeded at producing the temperatures necessary, but for only 100 trillionths of a second and only by putting in more power than we got out

I do not believe we are on the threshold of usable fusion energy no matter what the headlines suggest.

But given that fusion can theoretically supply all of our energy needs cleanly, I would prefer to be wrong. 

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JONZDOG
JONZDOG
4 years ago
Mish, I agree with you.  Ignition is not the issue.  It would be sustaining the fusion.  I think the best chance for Fusion energy is the http://iter.org fusion project in France.  But progress there is slow.  
JeffD
JeffD
4 years ago
Unfortunately, this is akin to Tesla’s claims of full autonomy, vs the reality of full autonomy. For those who don’t know, Tesla is only at Level 2 autonomy, one step above adaptive cruise control.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Great comments by knowledgable people. Thank you. That’s what’s makes the commentariat here worth reading. Some days are bette than others. lol.
My view has always been that fusion power is a pipe dream. This “advancement” does nothing to make me think any differently.
I do think that any sustainable future for humanity has to do with being able to produce and harness energy at a much higher level, without depending on FF’s.
On the road the past couple of days I listened to Liu Cixin’s sci-fi novel The Three Body Problem (second pass, I’d already read it once)…..It makes reference to the Kardashev Scale…and although I think that yardstick is flawed, I still think Kardashev got one thing right….energy, or the lack thereof, is  how we rise or fall as a global civilization.
We need to walk before we can run. I think we need to increase solar and wind, and learn how to harness the tides. I also think the current development on fission, working towards a safer version that can hopefully use more abundant resources (thorium) is a worthwhile goal. Substantial challenges still exist in even getting us to that modest intermediate goal.
Fusion would no doubt be a huge breakthrough….maybe take us immediately to that first Kardashev level one….I think that should also be a goal…it remains to be seen if we get there, or whether we lose everything we’ve gained when cheap FF’s are finally in the rearview mirror.
sylabub
sylabub
4 years ago
Private enterprise: this is interesting, perhaps call it medium fusion in a plasma reactor: https://aureon.ca/ and here: https://www.safireproject.com/index.html
bayleaf
bayleaf
4 years ago
Research will lead to fission that is safe and clean enough long before we are close to any threshold for fusion
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  bayleaf
I think it already has. Almost all our nuclear plants are based on 1960’s technology. A lot of progress has been made sine then.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
We’ve been able to create fusion reactions since the first hydrogen bomb. Why can’t there be a controlled fusion reaction like the way current nuclear plants have controlled fusion reactions?
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
We use a fission bomb to as a fuse make the hydrogen bomb explode. You really need that much temperature and pressure to produce fusion and we can get those temperatures and pressures yet in the lab in a sustained way.
JeffD
JeffD
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
One word – containment. The temperatures involved are prohibative.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
I worked for three years in fusion research of the kind done at NIF, at which point funding for my group was cancelled in part because NIF needed the money. For fusion energy to be economical you need to get, from the fusion reaction itself,  at least 70-100X the energy you put into it (surprisingly!). Lasers require a huge amount of energy, for example. For every watt you put into the laser apparatus you get at most 7% as much energy into the laser light itself. 
Break even fusion has been done in small lab experiments since the early 1970s.
NIF was and is a bad idea, an experiment of that size is/was not just ready for prime time. The lasers it uses generate laser light with a rather long wavelength which results in the tritium-deuterium material getting heated up and expanding before it can be compressed enough to yield a good burn. Shorter wavelength lasers are easily built and since this was basic physics I can’t imagine why the longer wavelength lasers were used. Also, the deuterium-tritium pellet has to be compressed uniformly to ignite a decent burn, a very difficult task. You can’t do that with 190-some lasers, 32 is the maximum number just from geometry (it’s complicated). Even very small misalignments of the lasers will result in a serious distortion of the compression which dramatically reduces the energy you get from the burn.
All this can be shown by basic physics and computer simulations, that’s what I was paid to do. But, long story short, the physics and models were ignored since there was a lot of momentum for NIF by DOE admins who didn’t understand the difficulties.
It’s too bad. All the money that was put into NIF sucked money from other lines of fusion research which basically died.
bayleaf
bayleaf
4 years ago
Reply to  astroboy
And don’t forget any and all private enterprises that are discouraged from competing against government funded projects.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
Reply to  bayleaf
Well, NIF cost $100 million. I suppose Elon Musk has deep enough pockets but not too many corporations are going to write a check like that on something which is by no means guaranteed to work.
Getting an economic  break-even burn is just the first step. After that you have to convert that energy into electricity which is a horrific engineering problem. Fusion burns are explosions; for economic fusion the picoseconds in which it happens it will generate more energy (heat) than the rest of the US produces during that time. There are possible ways of converting an energy burst like that into electricity but I don’t think any significant experimentation has been done. 
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
Reply to  astroboy
Finally some useful comment that is not hype.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
Most of the other comments I write are hype, though…..
IB6
IB6
4 years ago
The fusion apparently needs tritium (heavier isotope of hydrogen, 3H). It is quite radioactive (half-life ca. 10 years) and has to be made in evil NUCLEAR REACTORS. When mentally and scientifically-challenged environmentalists learn this, they will be against fusion as well.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
Reply to  IB6
FWIW, the moon has a lot of tritium. A space shuttle load would contain enough to power the US for a year. You make a good point about reactors….
vboring
vboring
4 years ago
There are a bunch of fusion experiments. The NIF is great science, but it isn’t likely to be a practical energy device. If you are interested, you can look up the below for a start:
Tri-alpha energy
General fusion
Stellarator
On the fission side, there are concepts that address all safety and waste concerns that are basically ready for commercial deployment. For example:
Natrium reactor
China molten salt reactor program
Thorcon power
The only drawback to fission is that it is regulated to extinction. The 1960s public wanted to do something about nuclear weapons. They couldn’t, so they created comically irrelevant but really expensive regulations for the nuclear energy industry. 60 years later, the industry in the panic-run parts of the world is dying. China is the world leader.
Rbm
Rbm
4 years ago
Always 10 years out
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
A year and a half after Sweden decided not to lock down, its COVID-19 death rate is up to 10 times higher than its neighbors
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Well, the anti-vaxers get away with the facile argument that it still is a small percentage of the population!   It is not clear what their threshold is before they would admit it is a problem.  Is it 10 percent (which would be 33 million people in case of the US)?  Or is it 20 percent, 25 percent, 30 percent?   Or does it have to be 51 percent (167+ million for the US)?    Or even higher?    These people are crazy.  There is no point in arguing with them.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“Well, certainly the Swedish death rate is higher than its Nordic
neighbors Norway, Denmark, and Finland. Those are the comparisons you’ll
hear. But it’s well below the rates for larger-population European
countries including Belgium, Italy, the U.K., Romania, Spain, France,
and Portugal. The U.S., too.

Sweden’s chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who caught absolute hell, feels vindicated. “Locking down is saving time,”  “It’s not solving anything.” In essence the country “front-loaded” its deaths and decreased those deaths later on.”

Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Researchers discover hidden SARS-CoV-2 ‘gate’ that opens to allow COVID infection
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Great animation. I like the way the spike normally flacid erects to penitrate the cell.
Gator Break
Gator Break
4 years ago
“modernize our nuclear weapons”. That caught my eye early on, and of course scares me. But I’m sure they will be careful.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  Gator Break
For Project Orion
Greggg
Greggg
4 years ago
These claims always come with a need for more funding.  Same playbook that CERN uses…  If we had a straight line accelerator we could find out more about the higgs boson, but don’t ask us what good will come of it.  If LLNL were ever successful in actually creating sustainable fusion energy, how would they transfer it to a usable means for consumption?   Ah, another fundraiser.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Reply to  Greggg
It took decades of funding for creating CDMA technology which was used as far back as WW2 and became commercially viable in the late 80s. 
It took decades of funding to discover that computers could communicate with one another through bits transmitted over cable. 
Most of what we use today all took decades of government funding. Even the post you wrote above.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
The only problem is that we have been “on the threshold” for at least the last 30 to 40 years…
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
We have been on the threshold of all-electric vehicles for 120 years.  Does that mean that all-electric vehicles will never be “a thing”? Or, does it mean that sometimes it takes awhile?
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
If “awhile” is anything more than 10 years, it might as well be in a science fiction book.   The wheels are coming off at a breathtaking pace.   At this point, crashing into a ditch will be a “success”.
astroboy
astroboy
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
No one knowledgeable in the field has claimed that fusion is less than 30 years off for decades. Which is moving the goalposts, of course.
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Free, unlimited electrical power without nuke waste is great.
Just remember, it doesn’t fix the problem of line loss.
So the ability to build a LOT of them is necessary – or we also have to have figured out to build superconducting power lines.
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
And where are all those people flying around with jetpacks, or being driven around in self-driving cars?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Why don’t you book a zoom session to discuss as I see ash misting down here from a fire 100 miles away.  My car had quarter inch of ash on it today from being out for a few hours. 
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
YA can’t get something from nothing . 
Kick'n
Kick'n
4 years ago
Really, really hard problem but worth the funding. It could definitely change the world.
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
If only there was a source of fusion energy already available magically beaming down to earth 24/7.  Amazing stuff though.
prumbly
prumbly
4 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
Not 24/7, 12/7.  In case you didn’t notice, the Sun goes out at night.
Call_Me
Call_Me
4 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
Shamrock was correct in that the Earth receives solar input 24/7, although any particular location receives less than that.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
4 years ago
Apparently, that power output was 70% of the power put in.
It’s my understanding that energy is not an issue for humans. Whether humans can manage current energy technology is the issue. Fusion changes aspects of that issue. But, solve the problem? Maybe.
anoop
anoop
4 years ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
sounds similar to tesla’s business model.  put in $1B, make $0.7B in revenue, get $0.3B from trading energy credits and call it day. 😉
Dr. Manhattan23
Dr. Manhattan23
4 years ago
Very enjoyable read. I hope it happens. I really do. Would be nice to use resources for this type of push

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