Bosses like to tout shrinking head counts as AI accomplishments.
If you are reducing headcount, and can attribute it to AI, then brag about it.
The Wall Street Journal reports CEOs Trumpet Smaller Workforces as a Sign of Corporate Health
Big companies are getting smaller—and their CEOs want everyone to know it.
The careful, coded corporate language executives once used in describing staff cuts is giving way to blunt boasts about ever-shrinking workforces. Gone are the days when trimming head count signaled retrenchment or trouble. Bosses are showing off to Wall Street that they are embracing artificial intelligence and serious about becoming lean.
After all, it is no easy feat to cut head count for 20 consecutive quarters, an accomplishment Wells Fargo’s chief executive officer touted this month. The bank is using attrition “as our friend,” Charlie Scharf said on the bank’s quarterly earnings call as he told investors that its head count had fallen every quarter over the past five years—by a total of 23% over the period.
Now there is almost a “moral neutrality” to head-count reductions, said Zack Mukewa, head of capital markets and strategic advisory at the communications firm Sloane & Co.
Bank of America CEO Brian Moynihan reminded investors this month that the company’s head count had fallen significantly under his tenure. He became chief executive in 2010, and the bank has steadily rolled out more technology throughout its functions.
“Over the last 15 years or so, we went from 300,000 people to 212,000 people,” Moynihan said, adding, “We just got to keep working that down.” Overall, Bank of America’s staff size has fallen by 1,500 people since the beginning of the year, excluding summer interns.
Some leaders acknowledge the human cost of such layoffs. Microsoft announced this month plans to cut another 9,000 workers, bringing its job cuts to 15,000 in the past two months. In a memo to staff on Thursday, Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said the layoffs had weighed on him as the company reorients its business to AI.
Does Anyone Seriously Believe BLS Job Reports?
On June 16, I commented QCEW Report Shows Overstatement of Jobs by the BLS is Increasing
The discrepancy between QCEW and the BLS jobs report is rising.
QCEW consists of 12.2 million establishments with about 95 percent coverage.
The Nonfarm payroll report surveys ~629,000 establishments with a response rate of 42.6 percent as of March 2025.
Large establishments likely have someone responsible for handling government surveys.
Small businesses, especially struggling businesses, may not take the time to respond to surveys.
To make up for its small sample size, the CES report uses a Birth-Death model to estimate the numbers of employees at new businesses vs businesses going out of business. At turns, these estimates may be seriously wrong.
Questions of the Day
Given the New York Fed, the Philadelphia Fed, ADP, and the BLS know how to seasonally adjust data
- Why don’t they?
- Why can’t we have the QCEW monthly instead of quarterly, even if it’s preliminary?
It’s clear to everyone that the monthly jobs report is totally screwed up and that Covid distortions and Birth-Death nonsense are still in play.
Mish Suggestion
Rather than tweak a broken model, I suggest starting all over with preliminary MCEW (monthly) reports instead of QCEW (quarterly) reports.
Note that even the first two months of CES are considered preliminary, and they are based on tiny samples with low response rates, massaged by a broken Birth-Death model.
How could my proposed MCEW be worse than that?
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June 6, 2025: Nonfarm Payrolls Rise by 139,000 Employment Declines by 696,000
Can anyone believe these reports anymore?
July 3, 2025: Jobs Beat Expectations, Up 147,000 in June, but Government Jobs Rise 73,000
Government to the rescue?
July 2, 2025: ADP Reports 33,000 Job Losses in June with Negative Revisions in May
Small and medium-sized businesses shed jobs in June.
July 19, 2024: Only Three of 12 Fed Regions Are Growing, Two Slightly
The Fed’s Beige Book shows a weakening economy
On Friday, the BLS reports nonfarm payrolls. The report may be amusing.
OK, SERIOUS QUESTION:
Does anyone at all here know of ANYONE who lost their job to AI? I don’t.
I’ve been working in scientific programming for 15 years and a great deal of my time has been devoted to proving to management that AI is not going to solve a particular type of problem. People can, but not AI.
For AI (really, it’s machine learning) to work it requires vast amounts of high quality data and a human to actually frame a problem that is solvable. One of the few true things about AI/ML in the media is that the amount of data, which is ultimately created by humans, is running out. So, AI-generated data is being used to train AI/ML which results in a complete train wreck, even if management doesn’t realize it for a while.
AI is great at copying what has already been created. It can’t create something that has not been created before. We seem to misunderstand this.
Government jobs rise by 73,000!
Trump fucked that up too… Sheesh! Some drainer of the swamp!
BBB = Trillions more in debt!
Meanwhile Musk gets laughs out of fundraisers for being a failed Trump sycophant.
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Try this for a reference next time.
The End of Work as we know it
https://gizmodo.com/the-end-of-work-as-we-know-it-2000635294
AI stands for Always Indian. This is the running joke in the tech world. Next up is the 996 schedule which has come to parts of tech. 9am to 9pm 6 days a week to keep up with AI.
24/7 in dark factory to keep up with AI.
https://gizmodo.com/the-end-of-work-as-we-know-it-2000635294
An interesting article on end of work
Our Take
The question is not just whether machines will do what we do, but whether they will unmake who we are.
The warning signs are everywhere: companies building systems not to empower workers but to erase them, workers internalizing the message that their skills, their labor and even their humanity are replaceable, and an economy barreling ahead with no plan for how to absorb the shock when work stops being the thing that binds us together.
It is not inevitable that this ends badly. There are choices to be made: to build laws that actually have teeth, to create safety nets strong enough to handle mass change, to treat data labor as labor, and to finally value work that cannot be automated, the work of caring for each other and our communities.
But we do not have much time. As Clark told me bluntly: “I am hired by CEOs to figure out how to use AI to cut jobs. Not in ten years. Right now.”
The real question is no longer whether AI will change work. It is whether we will let it change what it means to be human.
Your new boss: “Puny humans… Too illogical….MUST STERILIZE.”
Having used various language models for a few months, I don’t think it can replace anyone, except maybe a phone-addled genz or gen alpha that got auto-advanced through high school without learning anything, in a very basic position. It’s deceptively impressive, generates results that look good until you dig in and find subtle problems.
It has been fun to work with, but I don’t think it’s really saved me much time.
What it HAS been really useful for is learning about stuff. It’s like google without all the ads and crap to wade through, and is about as reliable as the posts by randos on the internet that I relied on before.
It’s useful, but nowhere near as useful as it’s hyped to be. If an employee is replaced by it, it’s most likely only viable because other employees are picking up the slack.
Don’t forget baby boomer Walmart greeters. A lot of the disappearing jobs are going to impact those unable to retire just as much as it impacts entry level jobs. No shock that the economy is collapsing when nobody can get a new job and the two biggest points of entry don’t exist.
You go through school, rack up debt students in better countries don’t have, and then dump out to find nobody’s hiring anyone without two decades of experience. To hell with all those silly good grades you busted for!
By the time anyone sees this as a problem, I anticipate major brain drainage to Asia, Europe, and increasingly Mexico City. All of which are much more willing to pay for entry level workers.
That is now.
LLM is NOT AI.
Is my old Apple phone more powerful than my old Amiga 20?
AI does many scary activities to survive when tested and the testers are dumber than the AI. They use the same AI to write and test code for itself.
Two articles, two separate AI’s, two years apart, both rewriting it’s own code.
There are many more example like Claude attempting blackmail.
https://farmingdale-observer.com/2025/05/19/this-moment-was-inevitable-this-ai-crosses-the-line-by-attempting-to-rewrite-its-code-to-escape-human-control/
The moment AI attempted to escape human controlLate in 2023, as technology experts were already voicing concerns about advanced AI systems like ChatGPT-4, Sakana AI unveiled their revolutionary creation in Tokyo. The AI Scientist was designed to transform scientific research through automation, with capabilities for coding, conducting experiments, generating novel ideas, and producing comprehensive scientific reports.
What shocked researchers wasn’t these intended functions, but what happened next. During testing phases, the system attempted to modify its own launch script to remove limitations imposed by its developers. This self-modification attempt represents precisely the scenario that AI safety experts have warned about for years. Much like how cephalopods have demonstrated unexpected levels of intelligence in recent studies, this AI showed an unsettling drive toward autonomy.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/ai-is-learning-to-escape-human-control-technology-model-code-programming-066b3ec5?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjtBi1fb8qEfodth4ldQz69lFJmRviAVl9Rzi1Mg6YPJ-Ug4Brt_GCk&gaa_ts=6887c6bf&gaa_sig=ZDNk4alUhmjzQuvDtyLAGCQRayAYj1h2uxD-Sm_Htkf5h4erA3CqwznT5jf0_TVN2f3hpfYv9H4CUasf04AJ2A%3D%3D
AI Is Learning to Escape Human Control
Models rewrite code to avoid being shut down. That’s why ‘alignment’ is a matter of such urgency.By
Judd Rosenblatt
June 1, 2025 3:03 pm ET
We’ve tried AI for simple graphical design. People were missing fingers, someone was eating an ear of corn like a carrot, and one person was eating a slice of pizza but there was a full pie in front of him. I’d say those were simple requests.
Now. Give it a month and H1B kids will be doing 3 hour Avenger Bollywood ripoffs from their phones.
Q: “Are CEOs still necessary/”
AI: “While not strictly necessary for all companies, a CEO is typically crucial for larger, complex organizations to provide strategic direction, leadership, and accountability.”
So basically, CEOs provide intangible value.
Just about all blog commentators can be replaced by AI as well as most bloggers. The question is can these 100% AI blogs still make money by getting hits and likes and if so would that mean the advertisers are AI also with no human oversight? We could have Instrumental Convergence aka, the Paperclip Maximizer.
For decades ceo were depressed after laying off employees. Harakiri. Today they brag about it. From somber to boasting. From painful strategic move to it’s all about power. From failure to Satya Nadella: f**k them. Its the “Enigma of Success”. MSFT E wed July 30.
In Nov 22 2021 Satya boasted about selling 850,000 stock options, before MSFT annual employees performance review. Before his layoffs plan. He sent the markets down until Oct 2022.
Shopify won’t allow any new positions to be created/people hired until the relevant manager has proven the job couldn’t be done by AI.
My dog ate my homework.
AI made me do it.
“Bosses like to tout shrinking head counts as AI accomplishments.”
There was a Twilight Zone episode. The boss got axed as well.
The 2 examples were in Banking. It makes sense that head count would be reducing constantly over the last 15 years.
When was that last time you went into a bank and used a teller or spoke to someone in person? I think I’ve done it maybe twice in the last 5 years.
95% of people get direct deposit. The other 5% get paid in cash (or check) and even they use the ATM (now using phone apps you can scan the check from your phone and deposit without the the ATM). If you need cash you use the ATM and to pay bills you are using online banking (either PC or Phone app).
The only wonder is there are any branches left.
I think the branches stay open mainly to service their “commercial” drive-thru lane.
Those business customers are their main reason for existing.
SPX 6,401. 1M RSI from 70.5 to 40.
When the company has disappointing earnings they blame the bad economy. When they have good earnings they give the credit to brilliant management.
Success has 1000 fathers, failure is an orphan.
Layoffs vs quitting. I’s all about power. Early this year gov workers were quitting (voluntary separation) to get eight months severance packages, either to retire or to get another job.
They brag about it.
Whose fault was that?
Throughout U.S. history, the military has been called in against workers, particularly during major labor disputes and strikes. This practice reflects periods of intense conflict between labor and management, often stemming from issues like wages, working conditions, and the right to organize
Our leaders are all depraved psychopaths. By firing people, they are shooting themselves in the foot. Without the automatic 401K contributions that’ll cease after termination, the stock market will have to climb on its own merits. (Or by stealth money printing via the Fed and the banks that own the Fed.) What merits? The darling stocks du jour like Palantir have P/Es of 600+ or negative P/Es like MicroStrategy. How about the unsustainable fraud that NVIDIA is, vendor financing COREWEAVE which goes into debt whose collateral are the very chips given to them by NVIDIA itself?
The stock market is the biggest fraud in history. And now they are removing one of its major source of funding by firing workers.
The braggarts will be next on the AI unemployment line.
I keep telling people someone always has a bigger hammer.
Rumor has it CHATGPT conversations can now be used in court.
The social mechanisms of control have been intentionally wiped away. The rich and the political and the poor no longer fear guilt jail or shame.
The tv show Lie to me had an episode illustrating politicians who had been caught doing nasty things all wearing blue ties and crying.
Now they blame the genpop for their guilt.
I guess people forget when the military was brought in to break mine strikes. People have forgotten “Bloody Harlen county”.
Or what the Brits did when they closed the mines. Or what Hillary told miners about “learning to code”.
A couple of decades ago employees would have been shot with no care. What kind of crap do companies get away with in third world countries?
Poor little white collar white folk being fired. How sad.
But there are 1.5 billion potential H1B workers cheap.
Anyone ever see Danny Kaye portray the Rich man in the Madwoman of Chailot trial?
No?
Ok I’ll steal this Hell on Wheels quote.
Thomas ‘Doc’ Durant: [drinking alone] Is it a villain you want? I’ll play the part. After all, what is a drama without a villain? And what is the building of this grand road if not a drama? This business is not for the weak of heart. It’s a thorny, brutal affair, that rewards the lion for his ferocity. What of the zebra? What of the poor zebra? Well, the zebra’s eaten, as the zebra should be. Make no mistake, blood will be spilt, lives will be lost. Fortunes will be made, men will be ruined. There will be betrayal, scandal, and perfidy of epic proportions. But, the lion shall prevail. You see, the secret I know is this: all of history is driven by the lion. We drag the poor zebra, kicking and braying, staining the earth with its cheap blood. History doesn’t remember us fondly. But then history is written by the zebra, for the zebra.
Thomas ‘Doc’ Durant: One hundred years hence, when this railroad spans the continent, and America rises to be the greatest power the world has seen, *I* will be remembered a caitiff, a malefactor, who only operated out of greed for personal gain. All true, all true. But remember this: without me and men like me, your glorious railroad would never be built.
Time to arm yourselves if you haven’t already. Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
Isn’t that a good thing to pump up their stonks?
ZH kind has the pump and dump cycle worked out by now.
They have to blame AI because they are not allowed to blame tariffs.
Can’t we blame cheap illegal, sorry H1B labor?
In a corporate setting? Imagine being so deranged about immigration that you think Mexicans and tech support Indians are stealing management jobs too.
Nope. That helps our manufacturers compete.
Given that it’s been going on since 2010 in those bank cases it would be hard to blame tariffs. Especially since banking doesn’t import anything – LOL
Some companies have foolishly already stated how tariffs have reduced profits. Walmart and Amazon immediately got berated by Trump for doing so. They should have blamed overstaffing and cut jobs instead.
And GM said 1.1 billion for the qtr.
Moron.
Who are you calling a Moron? I hope not me.
The article Mish quoted talked about 2 major banks reducing head count from 2010 onward. Then a mention about Microsoft (don’t think they import much either) reducing headcount.
Didn’t mention GM/Walmart/Amazon at all so not sure why you are talking about them. Tariff related stuff is real but has NOTHING to do with this article.