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OPEC Times Biden Perfectly With October Production Cut Surprise

Chart courtesy of US Energy Information Agency EIA

Please consider OPEC’s October Oil Surprise

A couple of months ago Mr. Biden sojourned to Saudi Arabia to beg the Crown Prince for help containing surging U.S. gasoline prices. Now it looks like the meeting was worse than unproductive. Reports say OPEC and its allies including Russia will consider slashing their production targets by a million barrels a day when they meet this week.

Analysts estimate this would lift crude prices to about $100 a barrel from the $80 to $90 range of the last month. 

The Administration has released 200 million barrels or so from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve over the past year and about one million barrels a day in recent months. These drawdowns were scheduled to end this month, but the Administration recently extended the releases into November, no doubt worried that a taper would increase gasoline prices before the midterm election.

Producers normally respond to rising prices by raising output. That was true in the past in the U.S., especially from 2016 to 2019 when production increased by about three million barrels a day. But U.S. producers haven’t responded to higher prices during the Biden Presidency as much as those in other countries, including Russia, Canada and Norway.

Pioneer Natural Resources CEO Scott Sheffield last month estimated that U.S. oil production will likely grow by a mere half a million barrels a day this year and perhaps even less in 2023. So even though oil prices have been about 50% higher under Joe Biden than under Donald Trump, production growth is about 50% lower.

Democrats blame oil drillers for prioritizing profits over production, but companies must consider the long-term return on investment. The Biden policies have created substantial regulatory uncertainty, raised production costs, and directed capital to green energy.

Electioneering Is Not Strategic 

Biden has it in for oil companies begging both Saudi Arabia and Venezuela to increase production. 

Noe the SPR supply is down to about 21 days. If there was a genuine emergency that’s all we have.

There is nothing at all strategic about Biden’s draw down unless you consider midterm election politics as strategic. 

Will a weakening economy offset the expected cuts? 

Meanwhile please note ISM Drops to Lowest Level Since May 2020, New Orders Plunge Into Contraction

The September ISM report is much weaker than expected, with employment, new orders, and new export orders all in contraction.

Good luck if there is even a mild shock with production cuts. 

By the way, whatever happened to that Ridiculous Buyers’ Cartel idea? 

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JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Biden just ordered 20 million more barrels released from our strategic reserves for NOV!!!
More oil going to China!!!
alovicious
alovicious
3 years ago
The red-tape for oil leases issue is a real problem, but the O+G industry isn’t giving us the whole story:
  • They are facing critical shortages of labor and capital goods (everything from the carbide drills to fracking sand). There’s a huge, huge disconnect between leases and drilling/fracking and particularly with DUC wells.
  • Eagle Ford and the Bakken Plan are in obvious decline. The fat lady has sung for shale oil in the Dakotas.
And, as we already know, even if we produced more oil – we’d be shipping it off to Europe to be consumed or to China to be refined for us because we haven’t got the refining capacity. Building a refinery is, at best, a five year proposition.
And travel demand for the 2022 Holiday season will be…breathtaking. It’s going to smash 2019 records because of the obvious “demand pull” psychology that inflation operates on (i.e. “gee, I better buy this/take that trip while I can still afford it”).
Inflation in 2023 could be catastrophic and it is far, far too late to do anything useful about it.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
The Evil Trump wanted to buy American oil for $24/bbl for the SPR, but the Dems blocked it. On that trip to Saudi Arabia, Trader Joke Biden offered to pay $80 if the Saudis would keep production up. The Saudis laughed. At some point, this matters.

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/bidens-secret-promise-to-opec-backfires

Oh, and Bloomberg just moved a story saying that the Russkies can easily cut their output by another 3 million bbl in addition to what will actually be OPEC’s 800,000 bbl cut after some double-counting is removed from that “2 million bbl” reduction. The capstone? Senile Joe’s spokesliar said that the OPEC cut should impel the U.S. to rely more on domestic production.

These people don’t know WTF they are doing.

alovicious
alovicious
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Domestic O+G probably couldn’t raise production much now even if those barriers are removed. You may never see another Baker-Hughes rig count much above 800 – regardless of what prices do and whose administration is in the WhiteHouse.
Oil prodcution has already flattened out more or less everywhere except the Permian Basin and New Mexico.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Well, as usual, I read some of the comments and stopped after a while. I can’t be bothered to waste precious time on politics and the blame game like so many here. Had to skim through after that.
Only MPO45 had some investment advice (as usual) to take advantage of the circumstances. Thanks MPO!
Lots of speculation on what OPEC will announce tomorrow. Most common assumption is a 1-2 Mbpd cut to quotas. Which probably means an actual cut of perhaps 0.5 Mbpd since they are already 3.5 Mbpd short of existing quotas. So for some members the cut is meaningless.
Plus a voluntary cut by the Saudis of 0.5-1 Mbpd. The Saudis are already producing flat out and would like to cut back on their breakneck production. And support prices which have weakened on “expectations” of recession induced demand destruction.
Meanwhile, Russian production and exports continue to slowly drop. So I’m not sure how that will play into things. Russia is pushing hard for larger cuts in order to push prices back up as they desperately need the money.
But this is all speculation and short term noise. SPR releases. OPEC+. Iran and Venezuela. China. Russia. Etc.
The long term picture remains intact. Global demand for energy continues to increase, recession or not. There is a big push to meet that demand with renewables, but we are coming up short. I’m quite sure we will get there eventually, but it is going to take decades of major investments in renewables, infrastructure and the grid.
So we are going to need more fossil fuels than many “expected” to make up the energy shortfall.
Yet virtually ALL oil and gas companies worldwide have been reducing capex for the last decade, regardless of who is in power, in whichever country you wish to look at. Because they expected renewables to be doing better than they are during this decades long energy transition that the world is in. Plus, they did not want to expand reserves in a substantial manner, in the “expectation” that some of these reserves could end up being “stranded” in the future. (I have given many other additional reasons for their lack of investment in previous posts.)
Many of these companies are already sitting on decades of reserves. They only need to spend a little capex each year to bring them online. They are enjoying the current high prices and are gushing free cash flow. They only have to “put up” with the various voices screaming at them about profiteering, as they take advantage of the circumstances. But they are mostly public companies who are supposed to maximize profit for their shareholders. And that is what their shareholders want them to do.
So as the cash rolls in, they are paying down debt and in some cases, paying off their debt. Once appropriate debt levels are reached, they are then rewarding their shareholders by using most of that free cash flow to buy back shares, increase base dividends, and announce special dividends.
I expect returns of 20%/a at $80 oil. Add another 5%/a for each additional $10 in the oil price. And the best place to get these returns is in Canadian oil stocks. Though I still own some US ones as well.
Cheers!
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
You sure give a lot of “POLITICAL” statements for one who complains about them!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
Please point out the “political” statements that I just made.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
Plus I’m still waiting for the link to the story about Biden telling oil companies to refill the SPR for free that I asked you for.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Where did you ask for the link???
Talking to yourself???
Unlike you I don’t spend all my time on Mish site, every once in a while I will check back on some of the older threads to see if new responses are added…
A Marxist move to fill the SPR for free!!!
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
You get political triggered by oatmeal.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Thanks PapaDave. I look forward to your comments because they are a beacon of light in a salty sea of mediocre commentary. I have been meaning to ask your thoughts on ancillary companies to oil & gas. There is a whole hydrocarbon value chain from exploration to refining, midstream, distribution to retail. Any thoughts on any of these?
Btw, I am eyeing CVE, was going to pick it up at $15 last week and now it’s at $17. A missed opportunity but may sell naked puts when oil corrects again and it drops down again. Honestly been making money on OXY and XOM but why not make more with CVE and diversify out of US a bit? It’s the currency conversion that will be painful though.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Thanks. Excellent point. Currency is an important consideration for short term trading. Less important in the long term.
It should be noted that many Canadian oil and gas companies operate worldwide. But those that operate primarily in Canada can take advantage of a weaker Canadian dollar. Their costs are in $C. But the price of oil is in $US.
Love CVE. One of my core positions. A larger cap (46B) Canadian oil, like CNQ and TOU. 23% free cash flow at $80 WTI. Still in the process of paying down debt. Currently pays a modest dividend of 1.8%. Long reserve life. And has committed to returning all future FCF to investors once it reaches target debt levels towards the end of 2023. This one is a long term hold.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
I have been focusing on producers, though refiners and distributors are also doing well. There is only so much time to devote to research.
Additionally, CVE is in the process of purchasing a 50% interest in a Ohio refinery.
And SU has it all. Major producer, refiner, distributor. Though it may be about to sell its network of 1800 retail outlet gas stations.
radar
radar
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Just saw this tidbit – “A person familiar with the discussions said the cuts would be made from existing production, not quota levels that some Opec+ member countries have been unable to fulfil after years of mismanagement and under-investment.”
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  radar
Thanks radar. We will find out later today. Though as I often say: short term moves are for trading. While the bullish long term picture remains intact.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Is it true president Cluster Fudge is considering export quotas and price controls on oil? OUCH!
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
As far as I know, he is considering it. I assume for political reasons. Of course, it would not work.
Export quotas would actually make prices go higher as oil is a global commodity.
I’m sure he realizes it wouldn’t work. But with an election coming, politicians say stupid things. Then, they reverse their position after the election.
However, possible political interference is why I sold my European oils and lightened up on my US oils. Mostly in Canadian oils now.
The long term scenario for upward pressure on oil prices remains in place for this decade. And it doesn’t matter which party is elected in the US.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I don’t think anyone would disagree with your long term scenario. The issue has always been going into a recession.
However, I don’t think Biden would hesitate to have export quotas and US price controls if he could get votes from doing so.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I accept that politics is part of the equation. Which adds to the volatility. Which is why I trade the volatility.
Recession or not, energy demand is unlikely to drop. Unless it is a very deep recession.
Long run is based on fundamentals. Which is more demand for energy. Until those fundamentals change, I remain “long” oil and gas.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
A Marxist move to fill our Strategic reserves without paying for it!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
You keep saying that but you won’t provide the proof. How about a link to this story. I am always interested in oil and gas news. But I don’t waste my time on hearsay or outright lies. Show me a link to this story.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Sending a letter to the oil producers asking them to cut back on their exports and store there oil/gas in the USA!!!
Where do you think they will store the oil???
Several links have been mentioned on this thread!!!
Under FEMA/DHS authorization the FEDS can seize all privately stored oil/gas in the USA whenever the Gov’t declares an emergency..
Right now we are still under the “COVID NATIONAL EMERGENCY”!!!
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  JRM
“Sending a letter to the oil producers asking them to cut back on their exports and store there oil/gas in the USA!!! Where do you think they will store the oil???”
Duh.
Oil and gas companies do not store oil or gas in the SPR. The SPR is government storage in 4 different salt caverns (2 in LA, 2 in TX). It has a capacity of 714 million barrels of oil. No gasoline. No natural gas.
Have you not seen all the oil storage tanks all over the country? Not to mention the storage tanks that are underground. That is where companies store oil.
These tanks can hold around 800 million barrels of oil.
The largest of these storage facilities is in Cushing, OK. Max capacity is 80 million barrels. Current level is 26 million barrels.
Biden is not asking companies to fill the SPR for free. So stop saying that he is. It just demonstrates how political and how stupid you are.
He is asking them to fill up their own storage facilities around the US. Because these inventories have been dropping for the last two years. Why are inventories dropping? Because demand for oil continues to exceed supply. Even with the SPR releases adding to supply.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
I AGREE with your oil analysis. and thank you again. i don’t think you can separate business from politics, as politicians change laws and swing trillions of dollars around, so i like both, but not the D v R pom pom squad idiocy. it’s one party, and we ain’t invited. i like the rise in rates. it is a great trading environment. so many things now make sense, from CDs to junk bonds to preferred stocks and high yielding stocks. also the new CHIPS act is a gimme for long term viability of chip stocks. which i really never liked much. they now make some sense to trade into as the free sh*t army money is heading there way by the hundreds of billions.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
I do pay attention to politics. After all, I sold my European oils when politicians there first floated the idea of extra taxes on oil companies. Cut back on US oils for the same reason.
I just can’t be bothered to get into the R vs D debate like so many here. Waste of time. Why argue about things you have no control over?
Regarding CHIPS act. I see Micron is “planning” to take advantage and invest $100 billion in new FABs in the US.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Does the SPR use FIFO or LIFO? Perhaps someone here knows.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
If this rally is real Sept 30/Oct 3 and Oct 3/4 gaps shouldn’t be closed
Scooot
Scooot
3 years ago
Reply to  8dots

At least the Fed won’t have any market concerns about continuing to hike now, even Treasuries have bounced a little. 🙂

Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Been on the road all day. Back home. Posts coming up shortly
Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago
“Petroleum buyer’s cartel” I’m still laughing, almost as rich as an opiate user buyer’s cartel. Another hey look I’m doing something. What annoys me the most is the mainstream press makes no attempt to apply logic to this type of stuff before dutifully reporting it and anybody that does is cancelled.
Right up there with covid just happened to jump into the human species from pangolins at a wet market in Wuhan right down the street from a lab doing bat coronavirus gain of function experimentation. With no evidence of predecessors to covid in the wild(other species) anywhere around Wuhan.
They must think we are stupid, actually many of us seem to be considering how many in my circle buy this crap
Rbm
Rbm
3 years ago
Reply to  Jackula

Check out the podcast twiv # 940. Covers the time line of covid and the people involved.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Yes, good timing for this rally to end.
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
It is called a “DEAD BUMP”!!!
With
The plunge protection team wasting money!!!
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
The one thing I really like about this administration is that it illustrates so well how ridiculous the idea that any of these clowns are worthy of paying any attention, much less allowing them any power over anything meaningful, that only the partisan NPCs fail to see how ignorant this system has become.
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
Macrotrends has a 110 year chart of U.S. Crude Oil Reserves
For some reason I can’t find a chart on the government’s site that matches up.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Closed my Exxon naked puts today with 93% return. Did some covered calls yesterday on OXY and earned a 4% on the calls and hope to be called away on Oct 21 to be back in cash. Got PROFITS?
Three step profit strategy:
1. During crashes sell naked puts on stocks you’d like to own for 10+ years
2. During rallies sell covered calls on those stocks (if you got assigned).
3. If called out, use profits to buy T-Bills for the next rate hike.
Rinse and repeat until thoroughly rich.
dtj
dtj
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Gamblers always talk about their winnings, but you never hear about their losses.
MPO45
MPO45
3 years ago
Reply to  dtj
What are losses?
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Its always the same here. People who supposedly believe in the unbridled opportunity that the US provides to people to be successful and build a better life, who then crap on the people who actually take advantage and become successful.
There are a lot of these socialist/communist types here, like dtj.
You keep posting about your successes MPO. Its the American way.
Cocoa
Cocoa
3 years ago
Joe Biden makes Donald Trump look brilliant.Unless Joe is trying to destroy the oil reserves, he he selling cheap oil for no reason and rebuying expensive. Such a dimwit..and OPEC cockblocks the release as well. It’s a waste of money!
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Does anyone know how much bought the oil reserves for?
billybobjr
billybobjr
3 years ago
Reply to  Billy
Trump administration bought a lot of it during the pandemic when oil was in the20 -50 per barrel . At least that is
what the media reported
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  billybobjr
And Biden sold at $110 on down.
Irondoor
Irondoor
3 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
From Wikipedia: Within the petroleum industry, proven oil reserves in the United States were 43.8 billion barrels (6.96×109 m3) of crude oil as of the end of 2018, excluding the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.[1] The 2018 reserves represent the largest US proven reserves since 1972.[2] The Energy Information Administration estimates US undiscovered, technically recoverable oil resources to be an additional 198 billion barrels.
Don’t confuse “oil reserves” with the Strategic Petroleum Reserves that Biden is selling. This is oil stored in salt domes in Louisiana. The government buys and sell crude oil from the reserve on the open market. Recently for political purposes.
I am an investor in an oil drilling operation. It is getting damn expensive to drill for oil due to supply chain problems and inflationary increases in pipe and all the other products needed. Plus labor has gone ballistic.
Rene_FPV
Rene_FPV
3 years ago
I’m always rooting for nuclear to make a comeback in the US. I would love to see modernized nuclear plants become the backbone of a clean energy supply. I’ve never liked being dependent on other countries for our energy needs and these unstable oil supplies will hopefully make people more receptive to having nuclear as a solution.
billybobjr
billybobjr
3 years ago
Reply to  Rene_FPV
Nuclear power takes many years to get new power online. Many times the plants get near completion and are halted . They take tons
of money to build so this is no near or medium term solution to the power problem and yes they are working on some new nuclear stuff but I wouldn’t count on any of it as a solution till it is proven to work and actually gets implemented .
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  billybobjr
Mini nukes may be the best thing for a few decades. We need a few hundred aircraft carrier reactors…
billybobjr
billybobjr
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Even they take a long time because of permitting regulations and environmental groups and so on
I wouldn’t hold my breath .
CA2020
CA2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Air craft carrier reactors are not small at 700/MW for the A1B reactor in the newest aircraft carrier
Irondoor
Irondoor
3 years ago
Reply to  billybobjr
How many times have you heard of the reactors on Navy ships having problems? I can’t recall one. And they last for many years without much maintenance. Why can’t we use that type of smaller reactor around the country to solve some of our energy problems?
JRM
JRM
3 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
This story doesn’t match the Environmental terrorist organizations beliefs!!!
CA2020
CA2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
They do not last “many years” without maintenance. They have ongoing maintenance that is done daily. Water testing done multiple times per day. Navy reactors are not small, they do not run in auto pilot, and yes they can meltdown if they do not have sufficient cooling.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  Irondoor
too logical. i seem to recall some company was trying or did have floating nuke power operation to plug into grids………?
Billy
Billy
3 years ago
Reply to  Rene_FPV
I agree. I hear the latest generation of nuclear is one of the safest and less harmful to the environment energy.
For some reason no politician is wanting to invest now for something that will help 10+ years from now.
fiat124
fiat124
3 years ago
Reply to  Rene_FPV
If you havent checked out Doomberg on substack (or their This Week In Doom with Grant Williams podcast series), they are huge proponents of nuclear and critics of the, er, lack, of a coherent US energy policy. Here is one of their many articles about nuclear:
A Dose of Reality 5
A Dose of Reality 5
3 years ago
Reply to  Rene_FPV
Nuclear Energy is clearly the long term future. And probably the best option for space exploration.
Three books by Dr. James Mahaffey on Atomic and Nuclear subject matter are hard to put down. If you are a informed reader then these books are for you.
Atomic Awakening
Atomic Accidents
Atomic Adventures
Well worth the time and very entertaining and informative.
Rbm
Rbm
3 years ago

seems like more diversification in energy sources would limit any one energy producer from have this nation by the balls.We laugh at the eu for depending on russia for gas while we depend on saudis and other nations just as much to fill our needs. Saudis want a republican as president so they can continue to squeeze. Hey dont blame them oil is all they have and they will do what it takes to keep their economy going. Same goes for domestic producers.

Christoball
Christoball
3 years ago
These rallies have gaps that will fill.
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
3 years ago
Biden has done little if anything to the oil industry. The reason they are not increasing quickly is because of their own lack of investments the past four years because of Wall St pressure to buy back stock and reduce debt levels. They have more than enough inventory of unused leases as well. And it is not like the price of oil was rocketing higher in that time period either so like OPEC they needed to make reasonable assumptions on supply vs demand/pricing.
Like so many other problems that have been coming home to roost, the root goes back to two causes – Glass Steagal “reforms” and Fed ZIRP. And on the latter, short memories of so many who forget about Trump braying very loudly in 2018-2019 about “high” rates and “stupid” Fed to the point the press was in a tizzy about him trying to remove Powell before his term was up for renewal.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
There’s a big drop in investment in oil and gas production because of fears of what the democrats will do in the future. Companies don’t want to invest and then be shut down due to regulations.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn

Simpler explanation: restricting supply drives up prices and profit.

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
When Democrap politicians consistently say that the future is green energy, and carbon based energy will be repressed, any reasonable person would reduce/stop investing in carbon-based energy.
billybobjr
billybobjr
3 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Biden has done everything to cause the current problems, he stated that if he was elected they needed to get fossil fuel prices high
so alternatives could compete . Biden’s policies have all been to support that goal and cause the current energy crisis that is being
created . Open your eyes he demonizes the oil industry and subsidizes the alternatives . He is trying to keep prices down because of
the election but after that he won’t care he is even using the emergency reserve to try and accomplish this . After the election
he won’t give a crap and oil can go to 200 dollars a barrel because that is his administrations goal .When it does he will blame the oil
companies and opec and everyone else for the problem he purposely created .
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
good points and great memory and points………..
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
“Democrats blame oil drillers for prioritizing profits over production…”
“Newsom left out of his video the part where in 2021 he largely killed
hydraulic fracturing for natural gas in California as part of his
overall plan to end oil extraction.”
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
JOLTS came in really bad. Jobs are turning south.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
The fact that one regards electioneering as strategic puts our times in stark profile:
Everything has been turned into a war of absolute good & evil in which it is ridiculous to even think that something can be of anything but absolute cardinal importance.
No detail can escape, certainly not old-fashioned ideas like objectivity, neutrality, ends do not justify the means, Geneva convention type thinking.
Webej
Webej
3 years ago
By the way, whatever happened to that Ridiculous Buyers’ Cartel idea?
Everyone is by definition in the buyers’ Cartel for everything the market does not offer at a lower price.
It’s the suppliers that refuse to play ball and acquiesce to demand [!]
They still have to learn that this is a zero-sum game. LOL.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
And stocks go up (again) because the Fed might keep breast-feeding.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
…..on life support again , giving another boost to inflation …The future looks bright……We need some help from Russia to sort things out , I am afraid
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Russia is good at two things: drinking and failure.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
it’s the worst of times and the best of times. pent up boom from ww2 style shutting world down. troops coming home and factories returning to peace time manufacturing. it’s quite simple if you look at history. hat tip to economist newspaper for pointing this out a few months ago.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
This time is very, very different. We have had two decades of free money. Wall Street is addicted.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Posted Oct 3, 2022 by Martin Armstrong

PRIVATE BLOG – World War III Has Been Initiated

Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  RonJ
You’re just a little ray of sunshine, aren’t you?
I hope Nord Stream was not us, but given the moron-in-chief…
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Well, you did say this time is very, very different.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
of course it is different. as is each year and decade, but the pent up spending from world shutting down and ensuing governments printing trillions, has similar economic affects. the inflation today with jobs jobs jobs is most similar to post ww2 years. no doubt wall street got bailed out by the trillions and they do own the fed. that is obviously a truth. it’s an empire of debt with wall street banks in the drivers seat, and the military industry in the shot gun seat. the middlebrows in back seat and strapped to the roof, like romney’s dog. but this summers domestic industrial spending policy is nothing we have seen since post ww2 era. a really big deal. forget the stupid D v R nonsense, most middlebrows bicker about.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
When WW2 ended, the US was largely unscathed with vast manufacturing capacity after supplying most of the free world for 5 years. The national psyche was upbeat and people were unified. They had also invested in war bonds using their savings–real money, not zeroes on a balance sheet. For the next 20-odd years, the US was productive, but by 1970 complacency had set in. Vietnam did not help. The country divided with Reagan as media bias began to take control of public opinion. Compare Cronkite to Rather being the classic example.
Agreed, the D v R is an issue, but for good reason. We are witnessing first hand the result of progressive policy. It is about to get infinitely worse, IMHO.
spasidechats
spasidechats
3 years ago
I thought we had more than 21 days….crazy. It looks like whoever is in charge of Biden timed it pretty good for midterms to keep that price tamped but OPEC may have the last word? We will find out together I guess. Meanwhile Eurozone is going to their old Middle Ages playbook; infrequent showering and chopping trees. Surprisingly they seem ok with it. This guy is building a Yurt:
I would much rather see our homeless living in Yurts than tents and youth ditching the tiny home thing. Very tidy, dirt cheap and much less of an eyesore. Maybe we grab it and run with it?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Commodities a solid green. How does that help get prices down??
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Might this be the time to short the airlines?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Time for Joe Biden to don the Cardigan Sweater?
spasidechats
spasidechats
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
I fear Biden donning a cardigan (sweater) would create the same impression as Mr. Rogers, that bastion of male sexuality that has been such a crucial role model for American boys that they all want to change gender. This is strictly my opinion, and is NOT presented as fact.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab

That doesn’t prevent it from being a spectacularly stupid opinion. Calm your manboobs before you start talking about gender fluidity.

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
“Analysts estimate this would lift crude prices to about $100 a barrel from the $80 to $90 range of the last month.”
Demand (if production cuts hold) will lessen as recession deepens. Production cuts just in time for Winter heating season? Discretionary spending will crater. Vicious Cycle.
UN out yesterday with Absolute Cluelessness. Their “solution” to global weakening is for Developed Countries to halt interest rate hikes (and let inflation … and wealth inequality … take further root) … and price controls. Seriously.
USSR tried that in their (empty of goods) grocery stores.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Biden and the Democrats are desperate to get to mid-terms ASAP before heating bill costs start rolling in for people filling up their oil and propane tanks or get their 1st gas bill from an October chill. Once mid-terms pass we’ll see what the government really plans to do about oil and gas in terms of letting prices rise sky high or attempting to keep them in check because there won’t be political ramifications for another 2 years.
On another note, I read the UN is calling for all central banks to stop raising rates and instead switch to price controls – LOL. Insanity at it’s finest in the UN.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
you win
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Wanna bet the Democraps will be fist in line with price controls?
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Heating oil futures are back to the level of 2011-2015. Not that anyone remembers prices before last Tuesday.
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
“Noe the SPR supply is down to about 21 days. If there was a genuine emergency that’s all we have.”
Well except that we produce 12m bpd domestically which we could probably get by on with a little pain.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
That’s assuming the emergency wasn’t in the US itself like say a massive hurricane or other disaster like an extreme cold snap, refinery fire etc that knocked US capacity down by 20+% for an appreciable time period (a couple months).
More importantly, the idea behind the SPR wasn’t affect the price of gas for political reasons nor was it meant to fill at a cost of 100+ a barrel and sell at a loss.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
You vote for a moron, you get moronic policy.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
When the choice is between a moron and a narcissistic moron, you are gonna get a moron.
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
If there’s a problem like that then it’s likely the SPR wouldn’t be of any help either. Also, I think the oil Biden sold this year was at a great profit.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
It’s only a profit if the oil you replace in the SPR can be bought at a price lower than the oil you just sold.
My understanding is that the oil that he withdrew he sold cheaper than market price so almost assuredly tax payers going to get hosed on this.
The SPR would be of help in a US emergency. It normally holds almost 714 million barrels. Max draw down is 4.4 a day so 160+ days worth of oil which is a lot of months time to get over an emergency (as long as that doesn’t knock more that 4.4 million barrels of production out of order).
shamrock
shamrock
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
So if you buy it at $40 and sell it at $80 that’s not a profit? I’d love to be there when you try to explain that perspective to the IRS. lol.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
1) You buy for 40 (years ago) so the cost is $40.
2) Now you sell it for 80 but you have to replace it since it must be replaced and it costs 100 to replace.
My math says it cost $40 originally if we just let it sit there and never sold it (line 1).
Now the cost is going to be 40+100=140 – sell cost of 80 = $60. So the cost went from $40 to $60.
Tax payers just got hosed for $20 barrel.
KenNJ
KenNJ
3 years ago
On the demand side you will need to adding in the new higher demand from China.
Biden is selling on insurance policy at 1 MBD .
Pricse can only go up and the O+G will not expand in the US until the administration shows some willingness to work together.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  KenNJ
All the signs now point to central bank failure. Japan. Britain…. are the low-hanging fruit. China has an unstable (sinking) yuan and increasing interest rates. We might even see draconian money flow controls. Demand will likely decrease.
As for ‘willingness to work together’, given the Democraps’ long-term plan, I expect O+G will be seen as trying to help, and doing little.

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