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Pelosi Pushes for a Vote That’s Doomed in the Senate, What’s Going On?

Push For Quick Votes on Thursday Hits Quick Snag

Please note yet another Pelosi Push for Quick Votes failed yesterday.

A push from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to bring up Democrats’ healthcare, education and climate package for a vote as early as Thursday hit a series of snags as lawmakers continued to haggle over immigration.

House Democrats spent much of the day discussing how to raise the $10,000 cap on the deduction for state and local taxes, settling later in the day on raising the cap to $80,000 for nine years, according to people familiar with the plan. A trio of House Democrats also threatened to withhold their support for the legislation unless it included more expansive immigration measures.

Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D., N.Y.) is calling for the legislation to offer green cards to discrete populations of immigrants no matter how they entered the U.S. “We shouldn’t really negotiate against ourselves and not consider the broadest proposal,” he said.

Mrs. Pelosi is trying to move forward with the social-spending bill without having a consensus from Democratic senators, adding a paid-leave provision back to the legislation that Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) opposes. “We figured if they’re putting things in, we could put things in, even if Manchin doesn’t like it,” she said. [Excuse me for pointing out Republicans are not putting anything in, they want things out. So does Manchin.]

Negotiations continued on the topic throughout Thursday, with lawmakers closing in on an agreement that would further raise the cap to $80,000 but let the $10,000 cap fall back into place after nine years, according to the people. [Only in for 9 years not 10. What a hoot. This is precisely the kind of thing Manchin protested. And it was not only Manchin objecting.]

Lifting the cap has drawn skepticism from Democrats who have objected to broadening a deduction that would mostly benefit high-income Americans. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.) has proposed repealing the cap on the deduction for Americans making less than $400,000. 

Democrats were also trying to address resistance from some Texas lawmakers to a proposed fee on oil-and-gas companies that emit methane. “I certainly have big concerns,” Rep. Henry Cuellar (D., Texas) said.

Some centrist House Democrats have demanded that the legislation receive an official cost analysis before the House takes it up for a vote. Rep. Stephanie Murphy (D., Fla.) indicated she couldn’t yet commit to supporting the bill as the talks continued.

Here’s today’s update on a bill that’s doomed as promoted.

Party leaders have labored in recent days to lock down the support of enough House Democrats, with Mr. Biden placing calls to lawmakers to ask for their support and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi holding a series of 11th-hour bargaining sessions on its provisions. Democrats rolled out an updated version of the legislation late Thursday that tweaks its provisions on the state and local tax deduction and prescription-drug pricing.

But some centrist Democrats have so far declined to commit to supporting the bill, calling for additional analysis of its cost. Several of those Democrats met with Mrs. Pelosi Friday morning.

Rep. Jared Golden (D., Maine) said Friday that he wouldn’t vote for the bill without a cost analysis from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which isn’t expected to come for at least a week. 

Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.), a critical vote in the 50-50 Senate, has opposed a paid-leave measure that House Democrats added to the bill this week and raised broader questions about its impact on the deficit and inflation.

Democrats Take 180 Degree Wrong Message From Elections

Yesterday I noted Democrats Take 180 Degree Wrong Message From Elections

Hello Socialists

Sensible people are fed up with “free” Socialist programs that turn out to not be “free”.

Don’t expect that message to be heard. Instead, Progressives will whine about Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.

Expect Bernie Sanders to double down on Medicare expansion, free school, etc., even though the system is broke.

Biden Can’t Hear or Think

Here’s Biden’s election takeaway: Election Defeat Shows Urgency of His Agenda

“People want us to get things done,” Biden said in remarks at the White House. “People are upset and uncertain about a lot of things, from Covid to school to jobs to a whole range of things. The cost of a gallon of gasoline.”

But Joe Manchin, a crucial moderate vote, said the takeaway from Tuesday’s votes was to pump the brakes. “I would just say that we better be very careful and be very, very transparent so so people know what’s in them,” he said. “Don’t even set a timeline until we thoroughly, thoroughly vet this bill.

Pump the Brakes

Despite Manchin’s warning to “pump the brakes” Pelosi went the opposite direction. And that includes items guaranteed to not meet reconciliation rules, notably immigration provisions.

Flashback July 15

Schumer says he will force a Test Vote on the Infrastructure Plan.

Mr. Schumer said he was also instructing Democrats to reach agreement by Wednesday on the details of a $3.5 trillion budget blueprint the Budget Committee is putting together. That blueprint will unlock use of the fast-track reconciliation process, which would allow Democrats to pass an expansive economic package without Republican votes.

For an institution that hardly ever moves unless it is facing a deadline, Mr. Schumer’s announcement that he would hold a procedural vote on the infrastructure measure within days amounted to a hardball effort to push lawmakers into quickly finishing their work.

“The time has come to make progress, and we will,” he said.

In the House, Pelosi set a deadline for votes on September 1, September 30, and twice in October. 

Where’s It Going?

Assuming Pelosi gets a vote in, it cannot possibly clear the Senate as long as either Senator Manchin or Senator Kyrsten Sinema objects.  

But House progressives have vowed not to pass the infrastructure bill unless Build Back Better passes first. 

If they hold firm, then there can be no passage of the infrastructure bill. 

Meanwhile, Rep. Adriano Espaillat (D., N.Y.) adds icing on the cake with his notion “We shouldn’t really negotiate against ourselves and not consider the broadest proposal.” 

Question Regarding Pelosi

What’s Going On?

I am still struggling to get a grip on adding provisions that cannot pass the Senate. Immigration nonsense cannot even get past the Senate rules committee.

Are these actions supposed to change Manchin’s mind? What? 

The only thing I can come up with is Pelosi is now willing to pass the infrastructure bill and Build Back Better separately but cannot come out and say it that way because Progressives will not go along.   

If the House votes on both, the infrastructure portion will pass. Perhaps then Pelosi can force Progressives to take what they can get on the rest, bowing to whatever Manchin will agree with (hopefully nothing).

Divide and Conquer?

  • If she cannot goad the Progressives to give up their BBB First demand, there will be nothing at all because Manchin has the opposite demand.
  • If infrastructure passes (allegedly on a track where BBB is presented at the same time but cannot pass the Senate), she will say “Do you want something or nothing”

Is take what you can get by “divide and conquer” the unannounced game?

Perhaps she just lost her mind. But even if so, my above scenario can be the result.

Dear Progressives

Dear Progressives, please do as Espaillat says. 

Then do what AOC twice threatened: Blow the whole thing up, infrastructure and all, if you don’t get everything you want. 

I happen to have a musical tribute for the process.

Slip Slidin’ Away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5anMTZjVsL8

Nothing Beats Nothing

The best package for the nation out of all these proposals in Congress is nothing. 

By all means, please keep antagonizing Senator manchin. Pile on. 

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MatthewB
MatthewB
4 years ago
The so called “progressives” are copying what happened in the British Labour Party 40 years ago albeit US has Biden not Thatcher. I suspect ultimately markets will correct the problems caused by the politicians even if the energy and distribution problems don’t dissipate until 2023 and the huge amount of debt being built up is ultimately destabilising for the USA and globally.
goldguy
goldguy
4 years ago
I like this tribute much better…
Anon1970
Anon1970
4 years ago
The latest update from the NY Times says that the social spending and climate bill would be put off (the votes were not there) and the Dems were to pass the infrastructure bill today.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Anon1970
It is even worse than I had thought.   Now the House won’t even pass the social spending and climate bill.    The DONORcrats probably have enough of their Republican buddies voting for the infrastructure bill in the House even if the motley crowd of progressives were to oppose it, and I doubt they would do even that.
Given all this,  I will predict that the DONORcrats will get shellacked in the 2022 House elections. If they are very lucky, they will manage to hold 200+ seats.   More likely, it will be in the 180-190 range.   And in the Senate, they will probably end up with 48-52 even though they are defending just 12 seats.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Pelosi is trying to trick the House progressives to pass both bills.   In some ways, they had already folded in that direction as they worried that the recent electoral defeats would be blamed on them (it is ridiculous for them to think there is any justification to blame them for neoliberal corporatist McAuliffe’s defeat, but they did fold anyway).   

So both bills clear the House.   The Senate votes for the infrastructure i.e. corporate giveaway, bill 70-30 or something like that.  Then the BBB bill quietly dies on the vine or actually loses 48-52, if not by a bigger margin as a few more of the rotating villains show their faces.   

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Makes total sense to me.
Then they can strip down BBB into smaller bills, some of which might be able to get through the Senate. Especially if the infrastructure bill (the only one we really need) jump starts the economy even more which will have everyone feeling better and more prosperous and hence more inclined to pass some parts of BBB.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Pelosi is over 80 years old now and frankly when you get that old sometimes you get a bit weird. Anyone with older parents can see that. It’s not that they are dumb but they lose their mental flexibility and agility and when confronted with a totally new situation reflect back to what their experience tells them even though that experience is no longer relevant. The result is often a freeze up and immobilism. She should have been put out to pasture but modern medicine, if you have the means,  has done wonders in keeping older people physically fit but unfortunately the same thing cannot be said for the mental part. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
There’s no leadership in the democratic party. Biden has no idea what’s going on and I think Kamala took the VP gig for the celebrity status, not to actually do the job. The republicans lack leadership too.
JeffD
JeffD
4 years ago
The country is on the verge of hyperinflation. The last thing it needs right now is trillion dollar spending bills. Both bills should be deferred for at least a year.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
Ridiculous
The US dollar is not going to zero 
JeffD
JeffD
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
I heard Lacy Hunt very clearly indicate the risk of hyperinflation at the end of the interview you just did with him. Ask him again if you think he didn’t say that. Figure out exactly where you differ with him.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  JeffD
Our inflation is due to covid. Not overspending. It will subside shortly after covid madness ends.
ed_retired_actuary
ed_retired_actuary
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
So you believe that money is exempt from being cheapened by over-supply (at least for now)?
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
….a heading for 100, corrupt to the bone old b***h calling the shots …although worthless and corrupt too, at least we don’ t have them overage like that in Europe…
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
By putting things back in that are sure to be rejected in the Senate, Pelosi can pander to the commies, er, progressives in the House…..and then maybe Manchin and Sinema will let a few of those things pass in the Senate……they can’t throw out everything and still pretend to be Democrats, after all. The more she leaves in now, the more things to argue about later.
Why does anybody want to be a politician? Explain it to me again. It just seems like such a crappy job…….I know people stuff money in your pockets….but there are other ways to make money. Maybe because politicians don’t have to actually WORK to get rich.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Spot on !
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“some centrist Democrats have so far declined to commit to supporting the bill, calling for additional analysis of its cost.”
The noose is tightening.  Debt ceiling extension only to December 3rd (day of next payroll report).  Republicans will stand back and let Democrats argue amongst themselves and use their votes as campaign fodder in 2022.
Moderates need to tread LIGHTLY.

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