Quiet Quitting, Are You Doing Only What’s Necessary at Work and No More?

A 17 second TikTok video on Quite Quitting has amassed over 480,000 likes. I played it and thought “really?”

Zoomers and the Extra Mile

The Wall Street Journal comments If Your Co-Workers Are ‘Quiet Quitting,’ Here’s What That Means

The phrase is generating millions of views on TikTok as some young professionals reject the idea of going above and beyond in their careers, labeling their lesser enthusiasm a form of “quitting.”

Of course, every generation enters the workforce and quickly realizes that having a job isn’t all fun and games. 

The difference now is that this group has TikTok and hashtags to emote. And these 20-somethings joined the working world during the Covid-19 pandemic, with all of its dislocating effects, including blurred boundaries between work and life. Many workers say they feel they have power to push back in the current strong labor market. Recent data from Gallup shows employee engagement is declining.

Across generations, U.S. employee engagement is falling, according to survey data from Gallup, but Gen Z and younger millennials, born in 1989 and after, reported the lowest engagement of all during the first quarter at 31%.

Jim Harter, chief scientist for Gallup’s workplace and well-being research, said workers’ descriptions of “quiet quitting” align with a large group of survey respondents that he classifies as “not engaged”—those who will show up to work and do the minimum required but not much else. More than half of workers surveyed by Gallup who were born after 1989—54%—fall into this category.

Americans Are Breaking Up With Their Work Friends

Also consider Americans Are Breaking Up With Their Work Friends

In the months before he left his last job in 2020, Michael Trotter came to dread an end-of-day question from colleagues: Do you want to grab a drink?

“I don’t want to put in eight, nine, 10 hours and go out and have a beer—and talk about work for another four hours,” says Mr. Trotter, a 53-year-old database administrator in Cupertino, Calif.

In a recent survey of nearly 1,000 U.S. employees, relationships with co-workers tied with recognition as the least important factors in job satisfaction. (Compensation and work-life balance ranked as the most important of the 14 choices, according to online software marketplace Capterra, which conducted the survey.) Nearly two-thirds of those who had experienced high turnover at their companies said it had become less worthwhile for them to socialize and get to know colleagues

What a Change

This is all so different than when I was in corporate America. All I wanted to talk about after work, was work. 

If a project required weekend work, guess what?

I had not even heard the term “Quiet Quitting” until today.

Yet, in many ways it seems all so understandable. The average person making the average wage cannot afford the average house. 

Marriage, kids, houses, who can afford them? 

Is it strange then that priorities have shifted from getting ahead to free time? 

With that attitude shift, comes declining productivity. 

Real Output Per Hour Improves From Second Worst on Record to Simply Miserable

On August 9, I commented Real Output Per Hour Improves From Second Worst on Record to Simply Miserable

Perhaps productivity was really always overstated, not really capturing all the hours Boomers and Gen-Xers  put in off the clock, unpaid. 

Regardless, it rates to get worse as 20 million workers at retirement age will retire within a few years.

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JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
During WW2, the honestly-named War Deopartment studied malingering and invented a term that has become widely misused: passive aggression. It’s NOT what some Karen in Tennessee smiling and saying “Why bless your heart” when she’s really calling you an a-hole. It’s not insincerity, dishonesty, or manipulative behavior. It is displaying aggression through non-compliance.

There are lots of forms, often trivial until the consequences are not so trivial. It can be anything from chronic tardiness to “forgetting” about the plans you made. In a work context it can mean exerting only the minimal effort, or “working to rule.” It goes on and on. My point is that malingering is hardly new. Malingerers don’t get too far. It’s a big country, so of course there are exceptions, but they prove the rule.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
schutzhund
schutzhund
3 years ago
Quiet = Atlas Shrugged
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Thought about this on and off today and read through the comments several times.
It occurred to me that the times I put in a lot of overtime and extra effort it was because I was doing it for my coworkers and not for the corporation. Then management blindly reshuffled personnel and the reason for extra effort went away.
Sean
Sean
3 years ago
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Sean
“But what happens when someone follows the rules and yet somehow manages to break them because they followed everything word for word? That’s exactly what malicious compliance refers to. It’s when an employee follows a rule exactly how it is written, even when there is a known flaw, taking advantage of the rule in ways that the “rule writer” didn’t anticipate. They intentionally exploit the flaw, often leading to a negative outcome with no options to consequence the employee because they didn’t technically break the rule.”
What happens is the manager says I expected you to be smarter. Don’t do anything similar again for if you do, I will fire you. Or put another way, being too smart for your own good never works out well.
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
“Don’t do anything similar again for if you do, I will fire you.”

And then try to hire new people to replace them as well as many others who quit?! LOL.

Webej
Webej
3 years ago
Unmentioned are the sequelae of all the vaxx mortality and injury, knocking out key players in many production teams.
And the moral injury inflicted by the compulsory mandates, in addition to the hundreds of thousands of experienced workers removed from the premises for not injecting a cytotoxic pseudo-uridine gene therapy on their immune system.
The theme of quietly quitting is much older, though all the key vectors were exacerbated by the Covid lock-downs for people who were told they were non-essential, could work from home, should be fired if not vaxed, etc. A French psychiatrist wrote a decade ago about the epidemic of “depression” in Western society, and concluded that most of them are not depressed but demoralized — carrying out tasks that they do not themselves consider meaningful or essential, often shunted into different work and different social contexts by random reorganizations by people who have no clue who is and is not contributing, ritual labor humiliations, etc. The only connection between their life and work is the pay cheque … which is not a strong motivation to do a whole lot more than show up.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
“Unmentioned are the sequelae of all the vaxx mortality and injury, knocking out key players in many production teams.
And the moral injury inflicted by the compulsory mandates, in addition to the hundreds of thousands of experienced workers removed from the premises for not injecting a cytotoxic pseudo-uridine gene therapy on their immune system.”
Companies are still forcing the requirement to get or be Covaxxed on their employees and visitors. The othe rday I received an invite from Google to participate in one o ftheir user studies (1hr of my time for $150). Unfortunately for Google, they STILL have a requirement that all visitors to their campuses have to CoVaxxed. We know this is dumb because the vax DOES NOT prevent transmission of the virus, so what purpose does it serve?
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
“The theme of quietly quitting is much older, though all the key vectors were exacerbated by the Covid lock-downs for people who were told they were non-essential, could work from home, should be fired if not vaxed, etc. A French psychiatrist wrote a decade ago about the epidemic of “depression” in Western society, and concluded that most of them are not depressed but demoralized — carrying out tasks that they do not themselves consider meaningful or essential, often shunted into different work and different social contexts by random reorganizations by people who have no clue who is and is not contributing, ritual labor humiliations, etc. The only connection between their life and work is the pay cheque … which is not a strong motivation to do a whole lot more than show up.”
The issue is that no one asks to be born and given the choice, it is my contention that most would refuse if they were told that they would have to go to school for 12-16 years (more or less) and then they would have to get something called a JOB where they worked for themselves or someone else and that they would do this for 40-60 hours per week for 40 or more years, after which, assuming they have a decent pension plan and/or have prudently saved $$, they could retire and enjoy the remainder of their life, too often in poor health.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Webej
Toot toot! Kook alert!
Bbbbbbb
Bbbbbbb
3 years ago
Look up the term “Sampo Generation” and you’ll see that this is neither a new phenomenon nor an American phenomenon. It IS a reflection of the decades-long world economic crisis.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
An article that better describes the issues:
———–
What is ‘quiet quitting,’ and how it may be a misnomer for setting boundaries at work
August 19, 2022
Closing your laptop at 5 p.m. Doing only your assigned tasks. Spending more time with family. These are just some of the common examples used to define the latest workplace trend of “quiet quitting.”
Some experts say it’s a misnomer and should really be defined as carving out time to take care of yourself.
Ed Zitron, who runs a media consulting business for tech startups and publishes the labor-focused newsletter Where’s Your Ed At, believes the term stems from companies exploiting their employees’ labor and how these businesses benefit from a culture of overwork without additional compensation.
….
tomatohead
tomatohead
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Big difference between shutting down at 5PM and doing the absolute minimum from 9AM-5PM. Separating life and work is not quiet quitting. Being a shitty employee is.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Reply to  tomatohead
Yes and the article makes the case of the former, which makes sense, while the main article and many posters here focused on the latter. No one should be surprised.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago

To be effectively competitive in foreign markets, requires
that we sell lower unit costs and higher quality products. This means
concentrating on production, innovation, and product quality. It means giving
workers a financial stake in increased productivity (share in profits, etc.).

Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
Corporate America’s 40-year campaign of “The beatings will continue until morale improves” has finally reached its end point.
Plus you can add in the fact that the paltry sums of “money” that they actually pay you now lose value faster than ever.
Cocoa
Cocoa
3 years ago
The WeWork founder who lost 20 billion just got more money to start another company. Heck, a homeless person could probably lose less or make money on that deal. All upper management in USA is trash and greedy losers to boot. Another day another dollar
Cocoa
Cocoa
3 years ago
The compensation for CEOs and their lieutenants is so extreme and they are so greedy and incompetent, maybe thats a reason. No ownership in company, stock options era is over, venture capitalists shyster.common share employees out of everything. Plus the work isn’t very good or innovative anymore. Across the board the US innovation is not very interesting. Tech, medical or manufacturing. The only innovation we do is killing people with military weapons. I mean can you imagine working for big pharma now after screwing the USG out of 23 billion dollars in phoney products
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
It could be related to just being lazy.
Yabadabado
Yabadabado
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
Who are you working for? I did agree with you until my millionaire friend got bone cancer/kidney failure while working so close to retirement for a major automotive manufacturer. No bone cancer in the family history.
The TikTok is poignant. I work for my family.
Why are most wealthy people either sociopaths or unhappy? All I see in the news are unhappiness in wealthy people’s personas whom have to show off their daily adventures in order to validate their existence/lower birthrates in countries that work long hours.
Again what are you working (hard) for? The government? The WEF? Sex? Drugs? Shareholder value? He whom has the most toys wins?
Not saying NOT to work.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Yabadabado
Sex, drugs, in that order.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Why choose a favorite? They go together so well.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Yabadabado
What a strange reply. I am retired so I don’t work for anyone and in my experience those who go to sleep in a job are those who already have a lazy streak in their character. Those who are not lazy when they find themselves in a job that doesn’t do for them they find another or find ways to better their present position. Getting very sick just before retirement happens and has nothing to do with how you work.
“Why are most wealthy people either sociopaths or unhappy?” No they are not. The media focuses on the people who are unhappy or crazy because that is how they make their money. Happy people are not newsworthy so you never hear about them.
whirlaway
whirlaway
3 years ago
It is not new. It used to be known as “Quit, but don’t tell”. Mainly employed by those who could retire if they wanted to, but chose to coast along.

The fact that even those who don’t plan on retiring are doing this now shows how crappy the wages are. If you are paying next to nothing, that is what your results will be too – next to nothing.

Frednurk
Frednurk
3 years ago

It isn’t a case of slacking, it is about people seeing through the work ethic propaganda, seeing the ridiculous $ that executives get, the constant campaign to reduce wages and conditions and gone FU.

Fair days work for a fair days pay, and no more.
Stuff the team building and pat’s on the back, show me the money.
Jojo
Jojo
3 years ago
Not everyone is a member of the slacker club…
——–
A foolproof roadmap for early success
Jim VandeHei
Aug 18, 2022
Kathleen Nisbet Halpin, an early Axios hire who made herself indispensable with sharp instincts and good cheer, took to Twitter this week with wise advice for all the young people in our lives, Jim writes.
– It boils down to: Get sh*t done, no matter how small or dull. Then ask for more — lots more.
…..
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Jojo

In my 40 years of working, I’ve learned that if you give more to your employer, they will simply take it. If you want more money, you get a new job.

If you want to benefit from working hard, start a business.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
BINGO. employees are just modern serfs. be an owner. don’t let some one else own YOUR time. very simple really. amerika is dead last in small business ownership in OECD rich nations. brainwashed debt serfs raised from birth to be owned and just consume. no better than a farm animal, really.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  vanderlyn
Most people are about as intelligent as farm animals, so it’s not surprising they end up being used that way.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
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Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
This has been going on forever and is quite overrated. Does no one remember what the movie Office Space was about ?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Mish
Mish
3 years ago
Was on the road all day – Title corrected
Thanks
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Were you quiet quitting ?
Siliconguy
Siliconguy
3 years ago
I Think you nailed at least part of it;
“Perhaps productivity was really always overstated, not really capturing all the hours Boomers and Gen-Xers put in off the clock, unpaid.”
Exempt status is a trap, free overtime for the CEO. He gets a bigger yacht, you get extra stress, no family time, and another task added to your schedule. I told my daughter to avoid exempt status if at all possible. She has, and is pleasantly surprised at how fast the OT adds up.
I had a bit of a reputation at the former job because I was usually out the door at the official quitting time, barring an actual emergency. When they frowned I’d ask if if any of my deliverables were behind schedule. When the answer was no I’d frown back at them and keep going. Most of the people staying late were shooting the breeze anyway. It’s not my fault they didn’t care to go home to the wife and kids.
SAKMAN
SAKMAN
3 years ago
Reply to  Siliconguy

The moment hourly workers hit a certain wage they are made exempt in my organization. Its just good business.

WTFUSA
WTFUSA
3 years ago
Reply to  Siliconguy
“Exempt status is a trap, free overtime for the CEO.”
Exempt status means that you are exempt from the fair labor laws.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
“Marriage, kids, houses, who can afford them?”
This explains quite a bit and covers a lot of ground.
What they need is more “investment opportunities.” /s
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Other than the phrase “quiet quitting” there is nothing new in this story. It could have just as easily been written 20 or 50 years ago. Many people have always done “the minimum”.
abelykh
abelykh
3 years ago
You pretend to pay, we pretend to work… Welcome to 1970s USSR https://www.mcknights.com/daily-editors-notes/we-pretend-to-work-and-they-pretend-to-pay/
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  abelykh
Echos of a failed system translated to today’s failed system.
Roy
Roy
3 years ago
Not really a new phenomena. My dad worked for Bethlehem Steel when I was a kid. (Think 50s into the 70s.) Everything was union, of course. Each job had a specified minimum output per 8-hour shift. It was common for workers to work until they met their quota for the day and then stop working. As time went on, they developed a system of having designated card punchers, so that some people could go home early and the designated card puncher could punch their time card later. They rotated of course. They met their quotas. And then everyone wondered why the company went out of business.
If you have that type of job with a specific required output, I guess you could make this work – until the company goes out of business of course. Is everyone trying to do this?
How does one determine the required level of effort to maintain their employment? Does output continue to spiral downward until the company goes out of business?
I have never approached anything that way. Anyone who falls into that trap is cheating themselves. Internally, they know they are not performing their best. When you deliberately scale back your efforts, quality is one of the first casualties. If this is commonplace, no wonder so many young people are dying of drug overdose. This quiet quitting is a soul-sucking endeavor.
Striving to do your best is a never ending quest. As you push yourself to new heights, there is always a higher level to reach. This doesn’t just enrich the company owners, It enriches oneself. As time goes on, the efforts drive both productivity and quality up. The company prospers and will pay more just to keep you there. Gradually, you do cross the threshold of being able to afford a house, etc.
[I make exception to the currently over-priced housing. It needs to come down to the traditional pricing of 2-3 times wages. It will correct, if the FED gets out of the way.]
There are really only two ways to go. You can perform your best and drag everyone else up with you. Or, you can quietly quit and drag everyone else down with you. It is impossible to just do enough, because you haven’t the ability to step back and observe the level.
Archie Poshington
Archie Poshington
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
Such an insightful comment, thanks. I previously ran a large team of, let’s call them “knowledge workers” to keep the industry generic. One constant thing I was told pre-pandemic was – if I’m delivering my output, why does it matter where I work? Or whether I’m working Tuesday or if I’m going to the gym? It’s really taken that quota/unionised mindset and applied it to a knowledge job. No wonder the culture of that team was so hard to turnaround.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
An exception is the currently over-priced housing.
Wages need to come
up to the traditional pricing of 2-3 times wages.
It will correct, if
the FED gets out of the way.
Those on fixed incomes will die sooner.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
I have to disagree with the comparison. I work in development of new technology and increasingly find that the complexity is becoming so difficult, that it takes a lot more planning, research and scoping of everything to actually find where the finish line is.
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
There is no finish line. Tech projects that aren’t under development die … of bitrot if nothing else.
Jackula
Jackula
3 years ago
Reply to  Roy
Well said Roy
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
go read BS jobs, a theory by graeber. a serious book. history of work since before the uffizzi, the first office building in world.
Scooot
Scooot
3 years ago
It’s similar to “Working to Rule” but by stealth. Seems naive to me, it’ll come to light and when employment opportunities aren’t so good, they’ll be at the end of the queue.
dtj
dtj
3 years ago
“The average person making the average wage cannot afford the average house” While that was never true, there was a time when you could get a decent paying job out of high school and your employer would train you. Of course that was back when we had a manufacturing base (among other things) that created all those good jobs.
For the 20% or so of Americans doing well today, life has never been better. They live in nice houses and nice neighborhoods and know nothing of the problems the formerly middle class are facing.
Mike 2112
Mike 2112
3 years ago
Reply to  dtj
They make their living shuffling paper and going to Zoom meetings. When the economy tanks , and the easy money is gone, these ppl are in for a rude awakening.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Reply to  dtj
Actually I am in that 20% and life sucks overall. I think the solution is going to come when people decide to stop having children like they have in some other countries in the world where the population growth it negative.
vanderlyn
vanderlyn
3 years ago
it’s a sign of maturity. amerikans were trained for past century to be sheep and workaholic consumers………… europeans work less hours and more productive per hour, past half century.
JoeJohnson
JoeJohnson
3 years ago
They pretend to pay, we pretend to work. Race to the bottom.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
I first heard a similar term in the 90’s. It was called ‘Quietly Vesting’ and meant you were doing the minimum in order to keep your job so you could vest in the company pension plan/stock option/401k match etc.
Most of the people who were doing it were dead enders career wise. By that I mean they had gone as far up the job ladder as they were capable of going / wanted to go. So it was mostly people who were inherently non-ambitious who were doing this. I suspect the current generation who are quietly quitting are also the non-ambitious types.
P.S. Mish, your article title has as dyslexic typo as it is called Quite Quitting instead of Quiet Quitting 🙂
radar
radar
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Kids have learned from their parents that having the big house and BMW isn’t what it’s cracked up to be.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
3 years ago
Reply to  radar
Exactly. Who could blame them ? I think overall it isn’t just them. I think most of the people that walked away in the last two years were actually boomers who wanted to have some time to themselves or take care of family after neglecting themselves/family for decades. I think a LOT of people find the whole thing overrated as they get older.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  radar
Particularly if 95%+ of the cost was borrowed.
Yooper
Yooper
3 years ago
I don’t see anything inherently wrong with this, and if that Twitter dude’s definition is correct, then what’s wrong with it? You work for what you’ve been paid to do for the job you agreed to do. Why not do an honest day work for an honest day paid?

ie – any good hiring manager would never pay more than what the employee could produce over any given time period (of course, there are labor shortages, but still a good practice). So why should the employee be expected to go “above and beyond”??? How is that “quietly quitting”? Not working “extra” for what – career advancement, of course, team building efforts to pull up the slack in tough times or when people are out, yeah, but otherwise?

The only laughable part is when the Twitter guy says,”Your worth is not defined by your productive output”…..

YEEAHH, that “productive output” determines your “worth” in the form of a paycheck 🙂

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Yooper
Putting in extra is exactly how you advance your career. Its showing that you are ambitious and want to exit your current job and be promoted to a better one.
If your company doesn’t recognize your efforts it’s showing you they aren’t a company you want to work for and thus it’s time to start job hunting.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  Yooper
That’s the problem in a nutshell–“Your worth is not defined by your productive output”…..
Zardoz
Zardoz
3 years ago
Reply to  Yooper
Actually what you produce doesn’t matter at all. What management thinks you produce is what matters.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Low productivity doesn’t just happen. We might blame it on Covid–a suddenly reduced motivation to work induced by SSDS (Senior Sudden Death Syndrome) . However, IMHO, it starts with faux self-esteem. Faux self-esteem does not have to be earned. You get it by using Facebook and friending lots of (faux) people. You get it by living in a society where every kid gets a trophy regardless of performance. Where educators make mathematics qualitative, so there are no right/wrong answers, so no kid feels insecure… Why work harder when everyone is ‘equal’? Why work at all when the person next to you earns more and does less work, or work of less quality?
Wanna bet it is worse where democraps gather? eg. government, universities…
Avery
Avery
3 years ago
My only concern is about the poor folks in the Corporate America C-suites and their stock options! /s
Is this the part where a commenter pipes in that all the jobs can be done in Benglarulu? That’s fine, I’m out of xxxxs to give. Helps with the almighty ESG scores, too. Like coal burning power plants in China, no prob!
No need to work out of a 100 story death trap or risking ones life getting there and back with the urban crime. See CWB Chicago website for further enlightenment.
RonJ
RonJ
3 years ago
“Wondering why productivity is down? Think about the new phenomenon called quiet quitting.”
As i mentioned a few days ago, some of the commenters on Denninger’s blog, said they are doing VIP, Vacationing in Place. They resented the threat of Covid vaxxine mandates where they work. They see their employer in a different light, now, and won’t put in the level of work they used to.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
3 years ago
That means jobs should be secure and opportunities plentiful for those with experience.
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
“It’s not my job” is hardly new. Those who live by that idea usually don’t get too far.
ajc1970
ajc1970
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
They last an entire pension-generating career in government jobs
JackWebb
JackWebb
3 years ago
Reply to  ajc1970
Correct, which is to say they don’t get too far. LOL
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  JackWebb
They get further than you think. Those government pensions pay out millions over your lifetime (retire at 55, live 25 more years and collect 40K in pension and you collect 1 million more dollars without ever having to worry about saving, investing, market down turns etc. Most include health care on top of that).
Business Man
Business Man
3 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
40k? Here in Illinois they get 85% of their last two years’ ending salary. Most pensions here are in the six figure range, resulting in multi-millionaires who don’t have to save one penny for retirement while they are working.
The state is something like $180 billion in the hole for this, with the worst pension crisis in America.
But JB Pritzker wants to be your President, because he “fixed Illinois.”
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
“Yet, in many ways it seems all so understandable. The average person making the average wage cannot afford the average house.”
Some would call it Bingo, but I just call it the most astute statement that no BLS BS statistics could measure.
Stuck in a rut, unless you have asset rich aging parents.
End to central banking!
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Average person, average wage, average house… is merely a symptom of an existential (a good democrap word) crisis. Low productivity (IMHO) is the end result of rewarding non-producers more than producers.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Don’t have to reward non-producers more.
Reward them almost the same and you slowly kill off initiative in the producers.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Guess you’ve never worked for a government. The only thing government workers work hard at is making themselves appear busy. Now that the only path to promotion is being a member of a repressed group, it’s probably worse than ever.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Actually, it is worse–it is not just government. The groundwork is done before pre-school. All people, all races, all 365 genders, all ages, are equal. By middle school, smart kids have learned to keep their mouths shut and not exert themselves.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Not entirely true. I have known some Government workers that work very hard at expanding their budget and increasing the number of people who report under them. Doesn’t matter if it’s justified or not.
ILHawk
ILHawk
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Just stupid. Been in both sectors. Govt has many of the best and worst employees. Industry is more middle road.

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