Refreshing Honesty: Ron Paul Praises Aspects of Biden’s Speech on Afghanistan!

Refreshing Honesty

Hello Biden haters, war mongers, and everyone addicted to partisan politics in general. 

Ron Paul “Taken At Face Value, Biden Said Some Good Things In His Afghanistan Speech.

I commend Paul’s honesty in a political world where those on the Left will almost never admit Trump did anything right and those on the Right will almost never admit Biden would or even could get anything right.

Paul did go out of his way in saying he was not impressed with the speech, but his key comment in a Tweet he personally wrote rings true. 

Paul also stated “We made the case yesterday that we admitted that he [Biden] was not the main blame for it because this has been going on for 20 years. This is not a partisan issue. That’s how it’s lasted for 20 years.” 

Reflections on Skepticism

Paul nails the correct phraseology. He is skeptical (and so am I) about Biden’s commitment.  

My skepticism regards the Mideast in general as opposed to Afghanistan in particular.

Biden’s position on Afghanistan is sealed. There is no way he can or will ever admit he was wrong. More importantly, he made the correct decision, and he will go out out of his way to prove it. 

Expect Data and Declassified Reports

Given attacks from the Left and Right by warmongers and Biden haters, Biden will be forced to defend himself, and he will. 

So expect to see lots of previously classified documents released proving how f’d up this mission was and all the lies surrounding it that went on for 20 years.

Fallacy of the Endless Wars Rebuttal 

As fully expected, the WSJ was back at it again today with this op-ed piece: The ‘Endless Wars’ Fallacy

There are many options between nation building and giving up, and we had found a good one in Afghanistan before President Biden abandoned it,” says writer Dan Crenshaw representing “Warmongers Anonymous” who clearly cannot think.

Dear Warmongers Anonymous

The Trump administration reduced troops from roughly 15,500 American forces to 2,500 troops in country, and the Taliban was at its strongest militarily since 2001.

It is more than a bit absurd to believe keeping 2,500 troops in country would have stopped the Taliban. 

Indeed, it is even ridiculous to think 15,500 American forces could have stopped the Taliban.

And that is what Obama found out when he announced a withdrawal. The Taliban escalated and Obama lacked the courage to do the right thing and instead sent in more troops.  

Both Obama and Trump committed to leave then didn’t. Trump announced he would leave by December 2020, then didn’t. Instead, he reduced troop levels to 2,500 then announced a May 2021 withdrawal date, perhaps purposely creating a mess for Biden in the process. 

Stay in Your Lane

Like Eric Ding, I have many people asking me to stay in my lane (economics).

This is my lane because the impact of wasting trillions of dollars in a place where the mission was 100% guaranteed to be doomed should be obvious.

What warmongers really want is for me to support war. Like Ron Paul, I refuse.  

Mushy Thinking

Reflections on Mushy Thinking

  • Global News Network did not realize it was Trump who reduced troop levels to 2,500 before wimping out on a promise to leave by December 2020.
  • McBragg could not figure out the difference between praising the end of a war and celebrating a takeover when the Afghans themselves laid down their weapons and offered no resistance. 

McBragg has one hell of a chord to untangle.

Forever Wars

Afghan war vet Lucas Kunce, a national security expert and Missouri Senate candidate, explains why Afghanistan’s fall to the Taliban was inevitable.

Kunce: There was this hue systematic lie of institutional dishonesty perpetuated by the people in charge in Iraq and now we are seeing the same thing in Afghanistan.

The Hill: What was the moment you realised everything there [Afghanistan] was a lie?

Kunce: Sure, a little bit on my background. I am a foreign affairs officer. I deployed on two special force teams in Afghanistan in Winter 2012-2013 and again in 2014. oversaw 6,000 Afghan local police and I have never seen a more paper tiger force.

Kunce: They [the Afghans] did not win a single battle, no one won a battle if we did not fight it for them.   

Dear War Supporters

Please read that last sentence, over and over and over and over, until these simple facts sinks in.

  1. The Afghans refused to fight.
  2. The US failed at training Afghan security because their hearts were not in it. Heck, most of them were likely Taliban, taking our money and funding the insurgency!

Sudden Collapse

People wonder about the “sudden collapse”.

Point two explains everything nicely. 

The US did nothing for the ordinary people of Afghanistan. Instead, the US funneled money to corrupt leaders who when the money ran out, laid down their weapons in surrender. 

That’s what happened, and to defend himself, expect to see a lot of declassified documents involving Bush, Obama, and Trump. 

That does not resolve Biden of all blame. He voted for these wars. However, neither Bush, nor Obama, nor Trump had the courage or resolve to end this mess.

Biden did. 

Credit Biden for a Brilliant Speech Defending His Action in Afghanistan

Ron Paul gave some credit to Biden. I give more. I Credit Biden for a Brilliant Speech Defending His Action in Afghanistan

This does not mean I like Biden (and I don’t). This does not mean I disagree with everything Trump did (and I didn’t).

This does mean that I give credit where I believe credit is due instead of expressing blind loyalty to political parties.

It is refreshing to see someone else (in this case Dr. Paul), willing to do the same.

Sick of War Support

Thank You President Biden

Thank you President Biden for having the courage to finally admit we wasted 20 years and trillions of dollars in a futile effort that would have gone on for another decade  or more culminating precisely where we are today.

Unfortunately, I expect this to be the only major accomplishment of his administration. 

But let’s not pretend it didn’t happen. Let’s also not pretend there is no a major economic angle to the story. Finally, let’s not pretend the messy exit was more important than leaving itself. 

We should all be grateful US involvement in this mess is ending. And let’s vow to never make the same mistake again.

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Kick'n
Kick’n
4 years ago
Speaking truth to power again Mish. War mongers think their big boy toys can solve foreign affairs. They all have a plan to “Win the War!” That’s the easy part. Unfortunately, they have absolutely no idea how to win the peace. That actually takes brains. And most importantly knowledge about of the people involved. If you are not willing to invest as much or more effort into developing a strategy to win the peace you should stay here and play with your toys at home. And to a point in your post, if you give them your toys and they still don’t want to fight, it’s time to exit, stage right.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
4 years ago
Looks like Trump undermined the agreement according to his own defense secretary. Oddly this happen after he lost the election so now it begs the question whether he was setting the Biden administration up for the chaos that has ensued:
But, Esper told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour , “my concern was that President Trump, by continuing to want to withdraw American forces out of Afghanistan, undermined the agreement, which is why in the fall when he was calling for a return of US forces by Christmas, I objected and formally wrote a letter to him, a memo based on recommendations from the military chain of command and my senior civilian leadership that we not go further — that we not reduce below 4,500 troops unless and until conditions were met by the Taliban.”
“Otherwise,” Esper continued, “we would see a number of things play out, which are unfolding right now in many ways.”
After years of negotiations, the Taliban and the Trump administration finally signed a peace deal in 2020. The US agreed to withdraw troops and release some 5,000 Taliban prisoners, while the Taliban agreed to take steps to prevent any group or individual, including al Qaeda, from using Afghanistan to threaten the security of the US or its allies.
But the deal didn’t bring about peace.
Following the agreement, violence in Afghanistan grew to its highest levels in two decades and the Taliban increased their control of wider swaths of the country. By June of this year, the Taliban contested or controlled an estimated 50% to 70% of Afghan territory outside of urban centers, according to a United Nations Security Council report.
LarryK
LarryK
4 years ago
First, I am a Trump supporter. That being said, so you understand my normal bias, Biden speech did in fact nail it as to WHY we needed to get out, why we shouldnt have been there so long, and why this whole thing AFTER we chased Osama out of the caves was a total joke. He didnt step up and directly say, as he should have, that while our mission perhaps to begin with wasnt nation building, it turned into that. HUGE mistake and typical of warmongers. HOWEVER, Biden and his team MUST wear the jacket of the mess of HOW the withdrawal went down. It was poorly planned, hasty, left many Americans and other Westerners stranded, abandoned billions of dollars of high tech weapons (that I am sure are on their way to China, Iran and Russia for reverse engineering). THAT is the disgrace of this. Yes, we needed to get out, and Biden finally stood up to the generals and the MI complex and pulled out. He does get credit for that. I only hope that we dont end up watching 100’s of American hostages on TV again, this time ending in public beheadings. THAT will be on Biden 100%
Kick'n
Kick’n
4 years ago
Reply to  LarryK
This is all true. But it just reaffirms that the PTB underestimated the situation from the very beginning, 2001, to the very bitter end…
KyleW
KyleW
4 years ago
Biden’s approval rating dropped 7 points. Meanwhile he ticked up a couple points in my eyes. It took courage to finally get us out of there.
conservativeprof
conservativeprof
4 years ago
Reply to  KyleW
Horrible actions by Biden. Afghanistan will return to a haven for terrorists. The USA looks like a laughing stock for another Saigon type debacle. Biden is a stupid fool incapable of governing.
IB6
IB6
4 years ago
We should have stayed another 20, 40, or 200 years while spending untold trillions of $$$ and losing thousands of American lives? Do we know that bombing Hindu Kush prevented terror attacks in US, or perhaps it facilitated them?
ajc1970
ajc1970
4 years ago
“Afghanistan will return to a haven for terrorists.”

That part was going to happen anyway.  The only other choice was for us to remain there permanently.

dagad1
dagad1
4 years ago
Reply to  KyleW
We are not “…out of there…” until all Americans are given safe transit home.
Bungalow Bill
Bungalow Bill
4 years ago
Agreed. Once again we need to think Biden when he gets it right. He got it right. I always thought Trump might actually pull this off, but he was obviously too worried about the chaos our government and everyone else knew was going to take place once the US left. You couldn’t have that chaos before the election…

Trump truly understood what Rush Limbaugh always said. A politician’s first job is to get reelected.

Not all politicians are leaders.

Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Glen Canyon Alstrom Point – Lake Powell Overlook – Sunset
View from Alstrom Point overlooking Lake Powell and Glen Canyon. It is from May 2020. Water levels receding, marinas closed and boat activity is down.
7 of 10 marinas closed to motor vehicles
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Awesome photo!
What software are you using to stitch together the 6 shots into the 1 panoramic image you posted?
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Lightroom does an excellent job at merging – at least as good as Photoshop in most cases. 
Lightroom does a poor job at blending exposures and focus stacking. I use Helicon Focus for focus stacking but it has issues with moving items like clouds and flowers. 
Mostly I manually blend exposures in photoshop.
Tengen
Tengen
4 years ago
Good for Ron Paul. That so many Americans remain devoted to the red/blue game is sickening. Today many Trump supporters find themselves in lockstep with not only John Bolton and Mike Pompeo, but even devoted never-Trumpers like Bill Kristol. This should give them pause but of course it doesn’t.
Mr. Purple
Mr. Purple
4 years ago
Stop making sense Mish.
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Ron Paul on Biden: ”…said some good things…”
Mish’s characterization of “some good things”:  “…Ron Paul Praises…”
Yea, right Mish… you’re objective and nothing at all like the progressive propaganda media machine.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  RoundFile
Please continue to make a fool of yourself while proving you are a warmonger by making idiotic comments.
Said Some Good Things and Praises Aspects 
Are indeed what Paul did.
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Deflect and make an unsubstantiated ad hominem attack.
Nothing at all like a Leftist tactic.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
“Afghanistan is plagued with the curse of plenty. They have, we think, upwards of $3T worth of minerals. The US Pentagon believes one province … has the largest lithium deposit in the world,” says
. “China will move in under security and diplomatic guise.”
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Now China gets it all because they are honest and deal with warlords and genocide with wanton abandon
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
China will succeed – because they kill or imprison 3 generations of the family from which any uppity folks come from…
The Taliban are evil, and China’s a bigger evil.
Tengen
Tengen
4 years ago
Reply to  RoundFile
China’s business is business, America’s business is war. That is why China keeps making gains. They build things, we bomb things.
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
For all those who said we where there for “capitalism” reasons… well why didn’t we capitalize on any of the resources…. And just up and left?
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  RoundFile
We capitalized plenty on their Poppies.
Heroin went from practically non-existent usage to 2001 to being an epidemic today.
Remember the Taliban forbade poppy cultivation when they were in charge.
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Oh please.  That’s ridiculous 
Corvinus
Corvinus
4 years ago
Reply to  RoundFile
The capitalism in this case is restricted to spending like drunk sailors on the domestic military-industrial complex.
RoundFile
RoundFile
4 years ago
Reply to  Corvinus
LoL  Oh please, that old trope.  Just who is the “military industrial complex”?   
Look, I’ve got plenty against how military procurement works – but the “industry” really isn’t the reductio ad absurdum of those who swing that trope.  The military industrial complex is a highly complex set of factors and industries – and yes, it’s filled with corruption.
But here’s the thing EVERY institution of our society has now proven itself filled with liars and corrupt:
  • Religious communities
  • Education system
  • LE 
  • Science
  • Medicine, and of course
  • Politics
The West – has rejected god and become filled with liars and dealers of dearth and theft.
There’s a good reason why in the 10 Commandments that I distinction is made between liars and murderers.
And people in a culture willing to butcher its most innocent – just so one or two can have a chance at the life they desire… will happily have the government imprison or execute those who get in the way of the life they desire.
Now go put on your mask!
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cocoa
Yeah. Because the only resource they have been able to use is water, just barely.
The fanciful 3T came from some groupthink session. Nobody has done any meaningful geological research there.
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
Well, the Chinese will find out I guess. We exported industry and inflation and pollution to China and now we can’t make an iphone domestically for less that 15000 dollars. But, we CAN’T anyway because we don’t have the technology or the tooling. The Democrats and NeoCons have been staging the US for a long slow death and then handing the remaining assets to the corporate elite-the only remaining functioning entity left in this country. Flooding us with immigrants, messing up the next generation, making up a pandemic to destroy the small economy, creating uncertainty in everything from gender to how our new electrical mandate is going to function. Politicians took corporate money and teed us up for the new Chinese world order. Democracy…toast

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