Reverse Repos Hit a New Record High of $2.33 Trillion: Plus a Q&A on Free Money!

Data from St. Louis Fed, chart by Mish

Understanding Repos

A repurchase agreement or repo (RP) is an agreement between parties where a buyer agrees to temporarily purchase a basket or group of securities for a specified period.

The buyer agrees to sell those same assets back to the original owner at a slightly higher price using a reverse repo (RRP). 

Understanding QE

The preceding paragraphs are confusing but think of repos and how Quantitative Easing works. 

In QE, the central bank gives banks cash (cash that banks literally have no legitimate use for) and swaps that cash for securities, typically treasuries or Mortgage Backed Securities MBS.

In the process of buying securities, the Fed forced down yields on treasuries and mortgages goosing housing and the stock market. 

As a result of all this asset buying, the Fed’s balance sheet rose to record highs.

Fed’s Balance Sheet

Fed’s Balance Sheet vis St. Louis Fed

Via QE, the Fed expanded its balance sheet, not by overnight or temporary purchases but via long-term actions or “coupon passes”. But it’s really the same swap idea, cash for assets.

The cash for assets swap left banks with trillions of dollars of reserves.

Reserve Balances at Banks

Reserve Balances at Depository Institutions courtesy of the St. Louis Fed

Quantitative Tightening

As noted above, QE (balance sheet expansion) is similar to a repo action but of longer duration. 

QT (reduction in the Fed’s balance sheet) is the opposite. But QT can also be achieved by allowing securities to mature without rolling them over. 

The Fed’s QT program, especially mortgages, is a runoff operation. The Fed will reduce its balance sheet primarily by runoff as opposed to outright sales of securities.

With that understanding, let’s return to reverse repos.

Reverse Repo Operation 

The above chart is courtesy of the New York Fed

Reverse Repo Operation June 30 Details 

  • The Fed offered $2.39.7 trillion in reverse repos at 1.55% 
  • There were 108 takers (nonbanks especially money market funds, banks, etc.) 
  • The term was overnight.

Q: The takers took every penny they could get. Why?
A: Note the 1.55% rate. The 1-month T-Bill rate is only 1.33%

The current Fed funds rate is 1.50 to 1.75 but 1-month T-Bills yield only 1.33%.

Why not take 1.55% for as much as you can get instead of 1.33% especially when the Fed is going to hike rates, most likely to 2.25-2.50 percent on July 27.

Note: The takers are primarily money market funds. Banks collect interest on reserves greater than the reverse repo rate.

Unlimited Demand 

There’s unlimited demand for free money and if the Fed offered more than $2.39.7 trillion in reverse repos there would have been unlimited takers. 

It’s important to note this is a trivial amount of money compared to interest on reserves discussed below.

Q: Why is the Fed doing reverse repos?
A: The Fed is struggling to keep its target rate where it wants it. 

Here’s the explanation on Repo and Reverse Repo Agreements straight out of the New York Fed’s mouth.

These open market operations support effective monetary policy implementation and smooth market functioning by helping maintain the federal funds (fed funds) rate within the FOMC’s target range.

Q: Why is the Fed struggling to maintain the Fed Funds Rate in the target range?
A: The Fed forced so much cash down banks throat that banks are struggling for yield. Competition for short term assets drove down yields.

Proof of this is a 1-month T-Bill yielding only 1.33% with the Fed Funds rate at 1.50-1.75 percent with another big rate hike coming in less than a month. 

Also note the current 3-month T-Bill rate is only 1.69%. Realistically, the 3-month T-Bill ought to reflect some portion of the rate hike coming up, but it doesn’t.

It’s important to understand that cash is a liability, not an asset of banks. The banks have to maintain capital positions on deposits. Banks seek to get rid of the cash that the Fed crammed down their throats.

Q: Why don’t banks lend this excess cash?
A: Banks do not lend from deposits. Except for QE, bank deposits are actually a result of lending. Loans create deposits, not the other way around. 

Banks are struggling to get rid of this excess cash (that the Fed crammed down their throats), so much so that the Fed needs to conduct reverse repos or overnight rates would drop below the Fed’s target.

Q: Is this Reverse Repo system working?
A: The Fed says the “System is working as designed.”

I don’t doubt for a second the system is working as designed, but I do question the design and the Fed’s actions. 

Keeping interest rates pegged near zero while conducting QE to the bitter end (March of 2022), was a major, major policy error. 

Hooray, More Free Money 

The Fed pays interest on all reserves. At the end of May, the total reserves were $3.318 trillion.

The Federal Reserve currently pays 1.65% interest on reserves IOR. 

If the Fed hikes to the range of 2.25-2.50 percent as expected, then expect IOR to jump to 2.40%.

Q: On an annual basis, how much free money are we talking about?
A: 2.40 percent of $3.318 trillion is $79.63 billion!

Q: We are giving banks $79.63 billion in free money? 
A: It’s a moving target. 

The IOR keeps rising but the reserve balances keep declining. 

That $79.63 billion reflects a hike that has not taken place yet. If the Fed keeps hiking at a pace that exceeds QT, then the amount will rise further. If not, the actual amount of free money will drop.

Q: Why does the Fed pay interest on reserves?
A: It has to, given the amount of money it shoved down banks’ throats. If it doesn’t, then note the NY Fed explanation: Repos and reverse repos help maintain the federal funds (fed funds) rate within the FOMC’s target range.

Q: Why doesn’t the Fed just drain all this QE instead of all these Mickey Mouse operations?
A: I do not have a good handle on that question, but I suspect the Fed fears consequences of a massive shock action they have never tried before. Meanwhile, please feel free to take comfort that the “system is functioning as designed”.

I have time for one final telepathic question. This question just came in. 

Q: Why isn’t Elizabeth Warren screaming about nearly $80 billion in free money to banks?! What the hell?
A: The only rational explanation is that she does not know what’s going on.

I am surprised Warren has not picked up on this. But she will and so will AOC and all the Progressives. 

And for a change, the Progressives will actually be moaning about a legitimate issue.

Expect a big stink over this because it’s coming. 

The Fed will respond by bragging about refunding billions of dollars to the Treasury. But that’s an acute perversion of returning taxpayer money (interest on debt) without accounting for the free money siphoned off to banks. 

Recession Outlook

In case you missed it, a recession is already underway. 

For discussion, please see GDPNow Forecast Dives to -1.0 Percent Following Income and Spending Data

Oh well, feel free to also take comfort in this: Powell: “We understand better how little we understand about inflation”.

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RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
It depends upon from whose POV this is being discussed. “Cash” is both an asset and a liability.
JPM’s cash is their reserve deposits at the Fed + vault cash. That “cash” is an asset to JPM but a liability to the Fed.
Likewise your “cash” at a commercial bank is your asset but is a liability to the bank. That liability is backed by the bank’s “cash” asset at the Fed. “Cash” is quoted because it is not actual physical currency nor is it even legally money, except for vault cash, which is small relative to reserve deposits. They are accounting credit entries at both the bank and the Fed. Those credits can be (bought or sold) / exchanged / converted (pick your preferred term) for actual physical cash (lawful money) on a 1-for-1 basis with the dollar.
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
Reply to  RedQueenRace
Cash is often used in a non-literal sense that means “deposit money” and that is how it is being used here. “Deposit money” is a liability for the institution holding the deposit.
Hopefully this makes things a bit clearer.
munge
munge
1 year ago
Can you or someone explain how cash is a liability and not an asset on the balance sheet of a bank?
I am looking at the balance sheet of JPM (JPMorgan Chase), and under Assets it shows 26.4 billion in cash as an asset.
Under liabilities I see customer deposits, payables, debt, etc. I don’t see cash under liabilities.
Could someone explain this?
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
Reply to  munge
See above. I inadvertently posted instead of replying.
david halte
david halte
1 year ago
The repo balance is the Fed’s immunity against future tantrums from Jim Cramer et al, to “open their lending window”, during their policy of restrictive liquidity. If the Fed believed a recession wasn’t imminent, they would reduce the balance and save on interest payments.
The large account gives the Fed time before backsliding to QE during a recession. Interestingly, the repo total has risen since the banks underwent stress tests. The Fed’s interest payments will lower their balance sheet, which increase rates.
JeffD
JeffD
1 year ago
Q: Why doesn’t the Fed just drain all this QE instead of all these Mickey Mouse operations?
This is my *only* question. I’ve had this question for a year now with no good answer. My guess is that someone is using it while the Fed claims no one has access to it.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
The money stock can never be properly managed by any attempt to control the cost of credit.

If you look at page 15 in Chicago’s “Modern Money Mechanics” you will see that “sells of securities” decrease both the assets and liabilities of “Factors Changing Reserve Balances”

“In concept, the ON RRP facility acts like IORB for a set of nonbank money market participants. Through the ON RRP facility, eligible institutions—money market funds, government-sponsored enterprises, primary dealers, and banks—can invest overnight with the Fed through a repurchase agreement (repo).”

Thus, the O/N RRP facility is primarily used by the nonbanks (draining the money stock). So, the FED’s operations are not transparent.

MisterE
MisterE
1 year ago
All these machinations and literally all it accomplished was propping up asset prices, and transferring future wealth forward in time, to a relatively few rich people, making them billionaires and even bigger billionaires.
America’s physical infrastructure and “software” IQ, continue to decline. And much of the remaining IQ is used to capture some of that wealth, because today there is no social benefit in America or much of the “developed” world to being productive, absent wealth.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Powell is a liar: “The connection between monetary aggregates and either
growth or inflation was very strong for a long, long time, which ended about 40
years ago”.
Monetary flows. We knew in advance,
the precise “Minskey Moment” of the GFC:

POSTED: Dec 13 2007 06:55 PM |

The Commerce Department said retail sales in Oct 2007
increased by 1.2% over Oct 2006, & up a huge 6.3% from Nov 2006.

10/1/2007,,,,,,,-0.47 * temporary bottom
11/1/2007,,,,,,, 0.14
12/1/2007,,,,,,, 0.44
01/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.59
02/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.45
03/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.06
04/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.04
05/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.09
06/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.20
07/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.32
08/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.15
09/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.00
10/1/2008,,,,,, -0.20 * possible recession
11/1/2008,,,,,, -0.10 * possible recession
12/1/2008,,,,,,, 0.10 * possible recession

RoC trajectory as predicted. Nothing has changed in > 100
+ years

JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago

In QE, the central bank gives banks cash (cash that banks literally
have no legitimate use for) and swaps that cash for securities,
typically treasuries or Mortgage Backed Securities MBS.

Unless I misunderstand (quite possible), it looks like you omitted “the banks” right after the parentheses. It’s a bit confusing, mechanically. So the Fed didn’t directly buy Treasuries or MBS?
In the process of buying securities, the Fed forced down yields on treasuries goosing mortgages and the housing market.
That sentence seems to contradict the one preceding it, and causes me to underline the question I just asked about QE mechanics. Past that, I’m not sure it “goosed” the housing market, but rather kept it from collapse. To me, that’s a distinction with a difference.
the Fed expanded its balance sheet, not by overnight or temporary purchases but via long-term actions or “coupon passes”
I looked up “coupon pass,” and found nothing. I will guess that you mean that the Fed bought interest-only pass-through certificates, and “coupon passes” was your shorthand. If I’m wrong, I am always educable, if somewhat retarded. Secondly, you made a distinction between “long term actions” and “coupon passes.” Wasn’t buying pass-through certificates a long-term action?
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
In QE, the central bank gives banks cash (cash that banks literally have no legitimate use for) and swaps that cash for securities, typically treasuries or Mortgage Backed Securities MBS.
The sentence is correct. Might seem better if I say the Fed gives banks cash (cash that banks literally have no legitimate use for) and swaps that cash for securities, typically treasuries or Mortgage Backed Securities MBS.
The Fed gets securities, the banks get cash
A coupon pass is just a long-dated or permanent repo (permanent meaning no time duration set)
They may have stopped using that term
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago

In QE, the central bank gives banks cash (cash that banks literally
have no legitimate use for) and swaps that cash for securities,
typically treasuries or Mortgage Backed Securities MBS.

Unless I misunderstand (quite possible), it looks like you omitted “the banks” right after the parentheses. It’s a bit confusing, mechanically. So the Fed didn’t directly buy Treasuries or MBS? Not arguing, but asking.
In the process of buying securities, the Fed forced down yields on treasuries goosing mortgages and the housing market.
That sentence seems to contradict the one preceding it, and causes me to underline the question I just asked about QE mechanics. Past that, I’m not sure it “goosed” the housing market, but rather kept it from collapse. To me, that’s a distinction with a difference.
the Fed expanded its balance sheet, not by overnight or temporary purchases but via long-term actions or “coupon passes”
I looked up “coupon pass,” and found nothing. I will guess that you mean that the Fed bought interest-only pass-through certificates, and “coupon passes” was your shorthand. If I’m wrong, I am always educable, if somewhat retarded. Secondly, you made a distinction between “long term actions” and “coupon passes.” Wasn’t buying pass-through certificates a long-term action? Some clarity would help.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Banks don’t lend deposits. Deposits are the result of lending. Ergo, all bank-held savings are lost to both consumption and investment. This is the source of secular stagnation (a decline in velocity).
1961: Princeton Professor Dr. Lester V. Chandler’s, Ph.D.,
Economics Yale, original argument was:

“that monetary policy has as an objective a certain level of
spending for N-gDp and that a growth in interest-bearing deposits in the
payment’s system involves a decrease in the demand for money balances, and that
this shift will be reflected in an offsetting increase in the velocity of the
remaining transaction’s deposits”.

Professor Chandler’s conjecture was correct up until 1981 –
most of this “S-Curve” dynamic damage (sigmoid function), was complete by the
first half of 1981, up until the saturation of financial innovation for
commercial bank deposit accounts (the near end of the “monetization” of time
deposits, the virtual end of gate-keeping restrictions, Reg. Q ceilings, and
reservable liabilities on time deposits).

The saturation of DD Vt according to Professor Dr. Marshall
D. Ketchum, Ph.D. Chicago, Economics:

“It seems to be quite obvious that over time the
“demand for money” cannot continue to shift to the left as people buildup their
savings deposits; if it did, the time would come when there would be no demand
for money at all”.

Thus, began the decline in Vt.

It’s all “Fools Gold”

JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Banks don’t lend deposits. Deposits are the result of lending. Ergo,
all bank-held savings are lost to both consumption and investment.
Had to think about it but I get it, at least partly. See my other comment about It’s A Wonderful Life being part of the American lizard brain, and then giving a contrary example of a construction loan. Still, though: If I deposit cash in the bank, I believe (but am quite open to the distinct possibility that I’m wrong, so that belief’s roots are shallow) the bank doesn’t hold the cash but instead sticks it in Treasuries. In other words, it loans the money to the federal government, and that loan is an investment. In other words, I’m investing through the bank, at a very low return, with the bank earning a spread.
Tell me where I’m wrong. Again, I’m as open to being corrected on this as I can possibly be.

The saturation of DD Vt according to Professor Dr. Marshall
D. Ketchum, Ph.D. Chicago, Economics

Having kicked myself a few times for asking for acronym definitions rather than just looking them up myself, I looked up DD Vt, both separately and together. DD might mean “due diligence,” but it doesn’t appear to fit this context. Vt is nowhere to be found as a financial acronym.

It’s all “Fools Gold”
That comes across as your colloquial way of declaring, Q.E.D., i.e. quod erat demonstrandum, meaning: “point proven.” Perhaps so, but not to a common moron like me. An idea: Slow down a bit; define terms; try to make it clearer, i.e. lay a trail of bread crumbs. I was joking about being a common moron. I’m an intelligent non-specialist. If it’s impenetrable to be, it’s probably impenetrable to just about everyone. I tilt my head like a confused dog, but I am trainable.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Everybody gets lost in the micro-mechanics. From the standpoint of the macro-system, the banks pay for their earning assets with new money, not existing deposits. That includes treasuries. The “taper tantrum” is prima facie evidence. The FDIC reduced transaction deposit insurance in Dec. 2012 from unlimited to $250,000. So, that’s what raised the real rate of interest and that’s what accelerated
the drop in the unemployment rate from 8.0% to 5.0% by Dec. 2015.
It caused me to
forecast a “market zinger” in Dec. 2012, – a surprise, shock, or
piece of electrifying news.

Savings flowing
through the nonbanks increases the supply of loanable funds, but not the supply
of new money, a velocity relationship.

Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
DD = demand deposits
Vt = transactions’ velocity
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
If you look at the discontinued G.6 Debit and Deposit Turnover release you will find that only DDs have much velocity – the ratio of DDs to savings turnover is 99:1. Thus, M2 is meaningless.
Powell deemphasized the
role of money in the economy. This is also a ruse. To coverup his ruse Powell
has destroyed deposit classifications. Powell eliminated the 6 withdrawal
restrictions on savings accounts, which isolated money intended for spending,
from the money held as savings
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
This is also why we are now sailing even further into uncharted waters. The FRB continues to destroy some of our charts.
Bronco
Bronco
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Thank you for mentioning velocity in your comments.
Lacy Hunt has spoken on Friedman’s famous inflation quote required a stable rate of velocity.
Banks have $3.3 trillion parked at the Federal Reserve … cash that is inert (which FR pays interest on). No source of inflation from those funds.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Bronco
Bronco: Yes, IBDDs have little reserve velocity. And Milton Friedman’s income velocity, Vi, is endogenously
derived and therefore contrived (N-gDp divided by M). It is a
“residual calculation – not a real physical observable and measurable
statistic.” The product of M*Vi is obviously N-gDp. whereas Vt, the
transactions’ velocity of circulation, is an “independent” exogenous force
acting on prices. Vt will at times, move in the opposite direction of Vi. 1978 is a good example.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
I am really interested in velocity. You clearly have a lot of knowledge. Your explanations can be somewhat Delphic, as in the Greek oracles’ cryptic messages, but I have resolved to hang in there. I had forgotten the equation, but I see that my takeaway about velocity being impossible to measure was correct.

When I think of velocity, I look at the extremes. My maternal grandfather was a refugee of the Great German Inflation, and was paid twice a day. He and the other workers would run to the grocery store at lunch because the prices would rise by evening. That’s velocity, or so I think. At the other end, during the Great Depression, prices were cratering and people held onto their money. I also think of the “helicopter money” (stimulus checks and other spending) of 2020-22 contributing to velocity and making inflation worse.

But that’s where any knowledge of mine ends. Anything more you have to say about velocity is going to get my close attention.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Yes, the rate at which your grandfather ran from work to the grocery is a vector – a velocity.
Simply stating the “velocity” of money is N is meaningless.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Many economists appear to fail to appreciate the difference between velocity and speed.
4IronFan
4IronFan
1 year ago
When the fed did QE banks were forced to sell securities to them…. Where did they get those bonds to sell them? …either from inventory (assets other than loans held by investing depositors funds.) OR, by borrowing funds or floating Equity. If they didn’t receive interest on the reserves they held from the bonds they sold the fed they would be eating the cost of funding. Yes, they earned a spread presumably on deposits used but as the size of QE was enormous most of those sales of securities were funded with short term, even overnight interbank lending. Mish, am I missing something here? You have been spouting this huge windfall idea for awhile. Perhaps the reason no one else does is for this reason.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  4IronFan
re: “most of those sales of securities were funded with short term” Right. The banks were able to outbid the nonbanks for loan funds (because reserves had a higher remuneration rate). The payment of interest on IBDDs induced nonbank disintermediation, an outflow of funds or negative cash flow.
The economic engine is being run in reverse. Powell eliminated required reserves but didn’t increase capital requirements, as the other central banks did who operate without reserves.
Bronco
Bronco
1 year ago
Reply to  4IronFan
“When the fed did QE banks were forced to sell securities to them…. Where did they get those bonds to sell them?”
No coercion. When the Federal Reserve conducts QE it is thru open market operations* handled by the New York Federal Reserve Bank.
*auction process.
Check the balance sheet of any TBTF bank. Typically has hundreds of $billions of treasuries on hand. Anyway, Federal Reserve always telegraphs its intentions. Allowing primary dealers ample opportunity to stock up (on whatever Federal Reserve committed to purchasing) and then sell (and pocket a nice spread) to NYFRB.
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
Reply to  4IronFan
The Fed does not buy from banks. They buy from Primary Dealers, most of which are not banks. PDs get their bonds from both banks and non-banks as they are simply (edit:very large) broker-dealers with a special privilege that allows them to deal directly with the Fed. This is why it was and is incorrect to say the Fed QEs only increased reserves. The impact on the money supply was smaller than on reserves but it was not nil.
The PDs could sell from inventory and acquire securities from other non-PD broker-dealers, as well as offer on behalf of banks.
Banks that did sell securities to the Fed likely turned right around and bought more. If the sold securities had a higher interest rate that was reflected in the price they were paid so they didn’t lose anything. Buying more is what they collectively did as the Treasury and Agency holdings of all commercial banks ** rose ** during all 3 QEs. In the latter 2 the rise was not much but banks were not net sellers.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago

Economists flunked
accounting. It’s stock vs. flow. In the “circular flow of income”,
unless the upper income quintiles savings (highest shares of income), are put
back to work, a dampening economic outcome, secular stagnation, is generated (a
fall in velocity).

see:
“Commercial Banks and Financial Intermediaries: Fallacies and Policy
Implications–A Comment Leland J. Pritchard Journal of Political Economy Vol. 68, No. 5 (Oct., 1960), pp. 518-522
“The case
against commercial bank saving accounts”
Leland James Pritchard 1964 Banker’s magazine

“The
economics of the commercial bank : savings-investment process in the United
States” Leland James Pritchard 1969

“Should Commercial
Banks Accept Savings Deposits?” Conference on Savings and Residential Financing
1961 Proceedings, United States Savings and loan league, Chicago, 1961, 42, 43.

“Profit or Loss
from Time Deposit Banking”, Banking and Monetary Studies, Comptroller of the
Currency, United States Treasury Department, Irwin, 1963, pp. 369-386

Link: The riddle
of money, finally solved BY PHILIP GEORGE

The riddle of money, finally solved (philipji.com)

As the economic syllogism posits:
#1) “Savings require prompt utilization if the circuit flow of funds is to be
maintained and deflationary effects avoided”…
#2) ”The growth of commercial bank-held time “savings” deposits shrinks
aggregate demand and therefore produces adverse effects on gDp”…
#3) ”The stoppage in the flow of funds, which is an inexorable part of
time-deposit banking, would tend to have a longer-term debilitating effect on
demands, particularly the demands for capital goods.” Circa 1959
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
You are clearly intelligent and know more than I do. Hence some questions about velocity, its measurement, and its impact.

My strong belief (but which can be changed, only with more difficulty than weak beliefs) is that velocity is an afterthought in times of price stability, but kicks into high gear during times of deep and persistent deflation or high and persistent inflation, and especially hyperinflation. The equation I learned a long time ago sets up velocity as an error term, so when I discuss it I compare to (I think my Swiss cheese brain has it right) Heisenberg who said that the act of close observation of matter or a process will change it. Yet the matter and process still exist, making observation and measurement tricky.

My question is whether velocity is measureable directly, or can only be inferred. Past that, maybe I’m so shallowly grounded in the entire concept that I need to study it more closely. If so, can you weigh in, perhaps with a recommendation or two for some reading on the topic? My belief (again, vulnerable to change) is that the “helicopter money” (stimulus checks and other outlandish largess) lit a fire under velocity, and greatly magnified the effect of the second round of QE of 2020-22. I’d love to know what I got right and what I got wrong.

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
The velocity between two points has a calculable value, it is a vector. A “velocity” at 10 AM on Tuesday is meaningless.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
You predict a “big stink.” I’m skeptical. Hardly anyone knows the difference between a repo and a frozen pot pie. Hell, I’m fairly educated in these matters and I had to read it a few times and then do some surfing. Even to me, the details were aggressively boring. And I’m interested! So: If there is to be a big stink, I think it’ll have to be a familiar smell from a source everyone can identify. We shall see.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
The big stink has nothing to do with repos
The big stink has to do with the Fed giving banks $80 billion a year free money.
And that is not on repos, but on reserves.
wow.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Okay, I’ll keep re-reading. You know more than I do, so I will re-think.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
I have long wondered how long “the people” would let these payments go on. I believe the original idea was to entice the banks to not lend excess reserves, overheat the economy, and cause inflation. It would appear that that is no longer a rational consideration.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Cash is a liability of banks
Loans are an asset
Banks don’t take cash and lend it – They take cash and park it at the Fed and collect free money interest on “reserves”
They also collect interest on their assets (loans)
The whole damn system (Ponzi!) comes tumbling down if the asset prices on which loans are made crashes.
This is what we were on the verge of in 2009.
The Fed came to the rescue and in March of 2009 suspended mark-to-mark accounting on the assets (loans) on bank balance sheets.
That marked the bottom of the bust. Stocks ripped higher and never looked back. To keep it all going we had round after round of QE.
By the way, the Bernanke Fed eliminated all requirements for banks to have reserves on deposits. It used to be 10% now it is 0%. We used to speak in terms of excess reserves, that term is now eliminated. Excess Reserves = Reserves
The term excess reserves is eliminated.
Banks used to collect free money on “excess reserves” now it’s “reserves”
It was that “10% reserve” nonsense that led many people to wrongly think money got lent 10 times over.
That never was the case – it was always infinite ability
These are the only constraints on bank lending (ability to create money out of thin air)
1. Bank cannot be capital impaired (too many bad loans)
2. People or corporations want to borrow
3. The bank has to think the loan will be paid back (believe the customer is a good credit risk)
The bank may very well be wrong about point number 3, but it will give a loan if it believes the customer is a good risk (or that the asset value will rise if the customer defaults)
Think about point 3 and the housing crisis. Banks knew damn well they were doing liar loans, but they did not foresee a housing price crash or people walking away from homes
Mish
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish

In “The General Theory of Employment, Interest and
Money”, pg. 81 (New York: Harcourt, Brace and Co.): John Maynard Keynes
gives the impression that a commercial bank is an intermediary type of
financial institution (non-bank), serving to join the saver with the borrower
when he states that it is an: “optical illusion” to assume that “a depositor
and his bank can somehow contrive between them to perform an operation by which
savings can disappear into the banking system so that they are lost to
investment, or, contrariwise, that the banking system can make it possible for
investment to occur, to which no savings corresponds.”

In almost every instance in which Keynes wrote the term
“bank” in his General Theory, it is necessary to substitute the term
non-bank in order to make Keynes’ statement correct.

This is the source of the pervasive error that characterizes
the Keynesian economics, the Gurley-Shaw thesis, the elimination of Reg Q
ceilings, the DIDMCA of March 31st, 1980, the Garn-St. Germain Depository
Institutions Act of 1982, the Financial Services Regulatory Relief Act of 2006,
the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, sec. 128. “acceleration of
the effective date for payment of interest on reserves”, etc.

Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Thanks Much for your comments
Apologies for the delay in seeing you here!
Mish
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
“By the way, the Bernanke Fed eliminated all requirements for banks to have reserves on deposits.”
Nitpick: The reserve requirement was lowered to 0% in 2020 by the Powell Fed. Bernanke was long gone.
Also, banks were paid interest on all, not just excess, reserves, before the reserve requirement was eliminated. Before it was eliminated the Fed paid IORR (interest on required reserves) and IOER (interest on excess reserves). With no required reserves, IORR has been discontinued.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Thanks Mish. I have been explaining this to folks since 2008-9 (I read Steve Keen’s first book). People still don’t get it, they think banks lend deposits. A failure of our educational system. It is not a chicken and egg problem.
The Henry Ford comment is appropriate: “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
I refer everyone to “Money Creation in the Modern Economy” by Michael McLeay, Amar Radia and Ryland Thomas, Bank of England Quarterly Bulletin 2014 Q1. Good footnotes and references.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Hopefully now everyone understands what I have been bitching about.
Look at the charts I posted below.
And we are giving free money to banks on “reserves”
There are no reserves.
How does this get paid back?
Seems like a Ponzi scheme to me!
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
It’s more of a circularly-defined system than a Ponzi. The reserves are mostly backed by Treasuries. How did the Fed get the Treasuries? By creating an equal dollar value of reserves through the act of “buying” the securities.
Those Treasuries, which were acquired with “money” out of thin air are pledged as collateral for physical bills (lawful money) put into circulation by FRBs (each bank must pledge collateral that is at least equal to the amount of non-coin currency it puts into circulation) . Presto ! “Real money,” “backed” mostly by government debt bought with “accounting money” comes into existence. Nice work if you can get it.
I don’t know what you mean by “paid back.” If you are talking about the fact that reserves don’t come close to backing M2 well that can be handled by suspending / banning cash withdrawals and is an unstated reason, imo, that they want to eliminate cash totally.
To me there is no need to “pay back.” It is “faith must be maintained.”
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
@Papa asks “So I can start up a bank and start lending money in order to create the deposits that I need to satisfy regulators. No actual customers needed to make real deposits. Whose money am I lending?
Nobody’s
You are in fact creating money
That is the heart of the matter
Lending creates money – and the money is deposited somewhere – creating deposits
That is how you get here
Total Credit Owed
Note the unit – billions
Total credit owed – $90 trillion
Base Money
Note the unit
Millions
On that base money we have lent $90 trillion
Now – someone please tell me how interest on all this money created out of nothing gets paid
This is what Nixon enabled
It is a complete total joke to talk about “reserves”
RedQueenRace
RedQueenRace
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
“Now – someone please tell me how interest on all this money created out of nothing gets paid”
The Fed has revenues. The vast majority of it is from the securities it holds. Expenses are deducted, which includes IOR, and nearly all of what is left over as profit is turned over to the government. So, most of the money comes from the taxpayers.
The Fed’s financial statements are available on their web site. The link to them is under “About the Fed.” They are grouped into audited annual reports and unaudited quarterly reports. Under those you want the combined reports as that is what “The Fed” is. They are in PDF form.
Here is a direct link to the 2021 and 2020 annual numbers.
Note the “Interest Expense” section in the income statement. The primary expense there is for “Depository institutions and others,” which presumably is mostly IOR.
willansa
willansa
1 year ago
A lot of the “money” on RR at the Fed comes from Money Market funds. The banks turned this money away. It was generated via Treasury (not Fed) spending. The Fed is merely the clean-up crew. The party fully to blame for the excess money in the economy is the government and it policies on transfers. The rest is literature.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  willansa
There is only one place where this money can come from: appropriations by Governments. They decide how much to spend and on what. If they don’t have that much money to spend they order their Treasuries to borrow it. Then they spend it.
Sorry I’m repeating what everyone already knows. But it does bear repeating. Often. Until everyone understands where the problem lies.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
“The Fed will respond by bragging about refunding billions of dollars to the Treasury. But that’s an acute perversion of returning taxpayer money (interest on debt) without accounting for the free money siphoned off to banks.”
Absolutely. I don’t expect QT to get much traction (I expect to see balance sheet > $15 trillion before it sees < $8trillion) so likely a moot point, but if QT makes substantial headway it would reduce the interest income (from treasuries + mbs) to pay for rrp + ior + preferred dividend for member banks. Not to mention Federal Reserve sitting on unrealized capital loss around $500 billion … now if yields tank (bonds up) this loss shrinks / goes away.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
1 year ago
The complexity of the financial system makes it extremely unstable. After enough patches and sutures have been applied, they start to pull each other off the patient. All of this reminds me of the scene in Wizard of Oz when the wizard says, “Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.”
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
Time to switch to bailing wire and bubblegum.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
cyanoacrylate adhesive – super glue.
No – wait…
DUCT TAPE.
amigator
amigator
1 year ago
It hasn’t collapsed because they have provided the QE. But each collapse is requiring much more QE.
So much for us all created equal the banksters have been making out like bandits. Even I could make millions at essentially zero risk.
That Repo issues started in the fall of 2019 well before COVID.
Is it time to consider COVID was a mask (no pun intended) to allow a major injection of QE. Not created for that purpose but never let a good crisis go to waste I have heard discussed before by our politicians.
The control exerted by the feds is something I thought I would never see here.
WarpartySerf
WarpartySerf
1 year ago
Reply to  amigator
“The control exerted by the feds is something I thought I would never see here.”
Especially by a cartel of unelected multi-millionaire bankers, who are not government employees, and who are not prosecuted for massive counterfeiting
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Not sure that I understand it all yet. I understand how the banks are making billions without any risk. Seems like a rather insane system.
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Bhakta
The return of feudalism. Seems to be civilization’s default state.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Yes, we are rapidly losing the individual merchant/craftsman/artisan classes.
And the church, save for nuts and Muslims.
Back to barons, soldiers and serfs.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
“The financial system is so screwed up right now I marvel at how it hasn’t collapsed.”
These words by MPO45 are so true. This is why Mish has been talking recession for so long. We should have had a natural severe breakdown in 2020 but Covid came to the rescue and pumped so much liquidity into an already faltering economy. Of course borrowed money is filled with maleficence and poor guidance on what is important for humanity. I think this time the chicken has come home to the roost. With inflation being so high it is hard to pull a new rabbit out of the hat and create a situation that gives plausible denial to a house of cards economy.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
The financial system has been screwed up since banking and derivatives were deregulated in the late 1990s. Prior to that it was in much better shape because there was actual regulation. The regulation since has been a joke which is why we are in the situation we are in.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
We have to thank Billy Clinton and Mr. Rubin for this. They did more damage in a couple years than others have done in one hundred years.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Bhakta
How so?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
Financialization the past 30 years or so crux of the problem.
In an earlier time banks would lend and keep loan on their balance sheet. Risk management much better, because loan officers would be canned if loans soured. Now? Banks lend the money … package loans into securities (which are tranched with different ratings) … then sold to institutional investors. Once some insurance company or pension owns it … who cares?
Johnson1
Johnson1
1 year ago
In theory, we may be in a recession…but it does not feel anything like a recession.
Low unemployment, low foreclosures, low defaults (except maybe cryptos), low bankruptcies.
Airports are packed, restaurants are packed.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  Johnson1
Things did not feel like a recession in late 2007 and early 2008. Things did not feel like a great recession before the Biblical Flood either.
Matthew 24 double dot 38,
For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking,
marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
They were fornicating too.
Fish1
Fish1
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
I hope you don’t really believe in that repressive book.
Johnson1
Johnson1
1 year ago
Reply to  Christoball
True. But in 2007 and 2008, there were lots of layoffs in housing builders and mortgage companies going bankrupt left and right. Bankruptcies and foreclosures where going up dramatically month over month in 2007 and beyond. I know as I was tracking them. Credit card defaults doubled from 2007 to 2008. Mortgage defaults were up 50% from 2007 through 2008, Auto loan defaults were up 40% from 2007 and 2008.
If you look at FRED data. Delinquency rates for all loans at commercial banks jumped from 1.79 in 2007 Q1 to 2.9% in 2008 Q1. Delinquency rates of loans in 2022 q1 was 1.48% and in 2022 Q2 it dropped to 1.24%. So delinquency rates have dropped the 1st two quarters of 2022.
That does not feel like a recession. At least not like what was leading up to 2009. Now delinquencies are starting to reverse the downward trend are starting to go up but nothing like 2007 or 2008 yet.
Bhakta
Bhakta
1 year ago
Reply to  Johnson1
Being locked up for two years has made everyone itchy. But in reality money isn’t flowing. And with the mortgage rates doubling few are buying or refinancing. We are looking towards some big drops in the real estate values soon.
Johnson1
Johnson1
1 year ago
Look at this email the crypto exchange Voyager sent out. Are the dominos falling? This will remove some liquidity. LOL

Voyagers,

Today we made the difficult decision to temporarily suspend trading, deposits, withdrawals, and loyalty rewards. The app will be down for a short transition period. After that, you will still be able to view market data and track your portfolio, and you will receive rewards payments for the month of June.

We understand the significant impact of this decision, which is why we tried hard to avoid it—including by securing a credit facility from Alameda Ventures and lowering daily withdrawal limits. But the failure of a borrower, Three Arrows Capital (3AC), to repay a substantial loan from us means this was the right path forward. Voyager is actively pursuing all available remedies for recovery from 3AC, including through the court-ordered liquidation process in the British Virgin Islands.

As a result—while far from optimal—this decision gives us time to strengthen our balance sheet, a necessary condition to protect assets and preserve the future of the Voyager platform we have built together. We are exploring a number of options and hope to have more to share soon.

Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Johnson1
Failure of a borrower, Three Arrow Capital, to repay a substantial loan. I would have thought, the loan was in crypto not fiat, so what’s the problem?
And pursuing liquidation in the British Virgin Islands? Isn’t it the home of money scams?
Priceless.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
So I can start up a bank and start lending money in order to create the deposits that I need to satisfy regulators.
No actual customers needed to make real deposits.
Whose money am I lending?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Your bank’s money.
Backed with the full faith and credit of your government regulated bank.
And of course the original capital that you and your friends put up to get a bank charter.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
It’s been forever since I tried to analyze a bank. I had to start by imagining a loan not being made from deposits. Hey, those of us who grew up on It’s A Wonderful Life have it baked into our lizard brains that loans are made from deposits. But no, if I’m Joe Upper Middle Class and I get a $750,000 construction loan from the bank down the hill, the bank books the loan as an asset because it will generate income, and then creates a deposit so I can pay the contractor.

The loan creates the deposit, which is a liability. It’s the bank’s job to have enough cash on hand to honor the checks I write from my $750,000 deposit account. It’s counter-intuitive. Next task is repos and reverse repos. Un(?)fortunately, I’m cooking dinner and that will have to wait. LOL

JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
^ Call me an idiot. I do, and regularly. My active-voice writing style and wide command of trivia makes me appear more confident than I really am. Give me a toenail clipping’s worth of credit. At least I admit what I don’t know. LOL
A Dose of Reality 5
A Dose of Reality 5
1 year ago
Well. Now you know why Bank of America. Chase. Citi bank and Capital One can give away free money to credit worthy individuals.
Spend $500. Get $200? 40% return? Better than crypto staking cause your losses are limited and you get to keep the good or services you purchase.
Economics of free money now make sense thanks to MISH.
Indirect government stimulus with a marketing sweetener for the Banks through the cash flow provided to the banks by the Fed. $1000 to open a bank account at Citi? Now it makes sense.
Fight inflation with one hand; Pour gas on the fire with the other hand behind your back.
Get your free $200 from Capital One thanks to reverse repos. Everyone loves free money.
ed_retired_acttuary
ed_retired_acttuary
1 year ago
The big banks offer promotions in hopes that enough of the deposits will stick at well below market rates (recently 0.01% on savings accounts) to over time more than compensate for the cost of promotions.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Spend $500. Get $200? 40% return?
Check your math. Spending $500 and getting back $200 is a loss.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Doesn’t make sense for banks to do RRP when the IOR is about the same.
Wasn’t RRP set up solely for the benefit of non-banks to make some money, since banks collect the same on excess reserves?
Money market funds would break the buck with ZIRP or something to that effect.
These FEDsters are smart, they break it, and then use duct tape to fix it.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
I really wish people would define acronyms. We cannot know them all, or at least not me.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
When money market funds can’t make money because of ZIRP, as they have tight requirements in what they can invest in, they go bust. The reverse repos provide some sliver of return.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
IOR? ZIRP? I don’t know. At least I will say so.
Felix_Mish
Felix_Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Example: Google for “zirp acronym in finance” without the double quotes, though they probably won’t hurt.
Experience says most acronyms don’t need qualifiers like “in finance”.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Felix_Mish
Reasonable point. You convinced me to look it up first.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
yes, Reverse Repos primarily for Money Market Funds and non-banks
IOR for banks and broker dealers – that’s where the real money is
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
The problem is the IOMR (interest on MY reserves) only pays 0.03%.
shamrock
shamrock
1 year ago
questionn1: The FED takes these reverse repo deposits and sits on them at 0%, or they buy treasuries with it?
2: If the banks can get 1.33% on 1 month bills and the FED pays 1.55% then isn’t the amount of free money just the difference, 0.22%?
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
Reply to  shamrock
Reverse Repo is effectively unwinding its balance sheet
But the duration is overnight.
There is nothing for either party to do until the reverse repo is repeated ad nauseum
The amount of free money on the reverse repo is tiny.
The amount of free money on reserves IOR is about $80 billion on an annual basis but a moving target that is likely less on a full year basis, depending on QT and hikes.
Much of the Reverse repo pittance goes to Money Market funds not banks. MMFs do not get interest on reserves.
Ability to pay on Reverse Repos to MMFs is a relatively new thing I believe to help prevent rates from dipping below 0%.
Yes, it’s a convoluted mess
shamrock
shamrock
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Interesting, well, at least they know what they are doing 🙁
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
MMF don’t get interest on reserves because they are not banks and thus have no “reserve” requirement.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
If you need a weekend laugh, I have one
Zardoz
Zardoz
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Bitcoin made me a foot taller and gave me telekinetic powers! Thanks, Bitcoin!
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Well doesn’t that make 2 countries moving toward bitcoin? El Salvador and now CAR? Two down, 136 to go?
“First, they will ignore you, then they will laugh at you, then they will fight you and then you win” Gandhi.
It is interesting to me that the first two countries to laud bitcoin also happen to have the youngest populations. One could extrapolate and say Bitcoin is for future generations, not older dying ones.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
If CAR and Salvador have extra energy, they can set up their own crypto currency or just mine bitcoins, and become rich.
They have seen how it’s done by watching the the Western central banking cabal, print money become rich.
Mish
Mish
1 year ago
most of these alt currencies and perhaps Ethereum is headed to 0.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
If I think bitcoin’s going to zero or close enough for horseshoes, is a MSTR short (via options if possible) a good play? Is there a better play?
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
I have decided not to short the S&P 500 because I just do not want to hope for that kind of bad news. It’s irrational, but so are many things. So I am refocusing on individual stocks, in particular the complete frauds and empty suits. This weekend, I’m going to pick out some of those, starting with the cryptolips (a type of tulip crossbred with what’s grown on what comes out of the back end of a bull.) Anything anyone can pass along between now and Sunday will be highly appreciated.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
That was just my bitter sarcasm.
Johnson1
Johnson1
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
I am guessing BTC and Ethereum will not go all the way to zero. There will be some underbelly type of actors who will use it for money laundering or avoid taxes.
Christoball
Christoball
1 year ago
Reply to  Mish
Perhaps we have finally found the missing link.
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
It’s patently obvious that the Fed should have started QE at full force rather than waiting until September.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
“Banks do not lend from deposits. Except for QE, bank deposits are actually a result of lending. Loans create deposits, not the other way around.”
Theoretical question. If everyone who has money deposited in a bank account, all closed their accounts and removed all their money, would the banks be able to continue operations and lending?
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
It’s impossible for “everyone to pull their money” from a bank because a bank doesn’t have enough money to handle that. That’s The whole point of a fractional reserve system. The situation you describe is called a bank run.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
It is actually worse than that…most people live paycheck to paycheck. According to the link below, the median account balance is $5300. And when you consider the pareto principle (80% of the wealth is owned by 20%), it is easy to see why banks, politicians, and the Fed cater to the rich. That’s where all the money is at.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
No one uses cash anymore. You’ve never heard of electronic funds transfer?
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave

A bank run can take place regardless if too many people withdraw their deposits in cash or electronically. Banks only hold a fraction of their customers deposits in liquid assets. This is a feature, not a bug of fractional reserve banking. See

PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
But Mish said bank deposits are created from them lending money. So they don’t need money from actual depositors. They can create all their own deposits. Simple.
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
That used to be very common in the days before the Fed and deposit insurance.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Doug78

That was then. Right? And it isn’t like that now.

Now deposits don’t matter according to Mish. So, theoretically, everyone could withdraw their money and the bank would be able to just lend out more and more money to create their own deposits.
I am probably too much a simpleton to understand what Mish is saying. But then I don’t understand a lot of modern finance.
Winn
Winn
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Yes, you must not understand. I don’t understand either.The world must not understand too.
The truth is printing vast amount of money can simply generate inflation. After massive
balance sheet expansion and massive QE, they create many layers between
money printing and market – creating delusion that massive money printing doesn’t generate inflation.
Simple thing is when money is printed it will reach market one way or another. If QE doesn’t generate inflation
there is no way to believe QT will reduce inflation.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  Winn

Low interest rates and QE been tried in Japan for 40 years and they still have almost no inflation.

QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Excess reserves are liquid assets held by banks beyond what is mandated by regulation. However, it still doesn’t mean that if you add mandated reserves + excess reserves that this sum equals the total sum of all actual deposits at the bank. Remember that most of a bank’s assets are loans to customers and those are almost always non-callable, while most of its liabilities (i.e., deposits) are payable on-demand. This mismatch is fine as long as the bank’s customers believe that the bank’s assets are sound. If they don’t, then a run on the bank may ensue and the bank may become insolvent long before all depositors are made whole.
This is why nowadays we have banking regulations, “stress-tests”, and deposit insurance to protect the public against such occurrences.
PapaDave
PapaDave
1 year ago
Reply to  QTPie
Does all that mean that banks no longer need people to deposit money? And that they can create 100% of their own deposits by lending money into existence?
QTPie
QTPie
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Yes, commercial banks essentially “create money”. This concept is core to how a modern financial system works. However, they’re supposed to retain a certain amount in reserve, depending on the regulatory reserve ratio (of how much they have out in loans vs. how much they have in deposits).
Doug78
Doug78
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
It depends on the type of bank. A Savings and Loan is very much different from a bank like Citi or JPMorganChase. The S&Ls are like traditional bank with depositors and makes money by lending. The large money-center banks have their fingers in so many different types of businesses that each line of business has different reserve requirements and regulations. When they do a stress test it tests the entire system together because even if the businesses are different they are interconnected by market actions. Hopefully if the risk manager does his job the bank survives the test.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
Yes, they make loans from “nothing.”
The loans are backed by pledged collateral worth more than the loan.
That’s why banks like real estate – it’s hard to move it someplace else.
From time to time a bank examiner shows up and goes through the bank’s books.
He looks to see if the loans are “performing”, i.e. making regular payments.
He looks to see if loans are being made to an officer’s sister’s brother-in-law.
He looks to see if loans are being made with empty oil tanks being used as collateral – oops.
&c, &c…
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
1 year ago
Reply to  PapaDave
The deregulation of interest rates, Reg. Q ceilings, was a ruse perpetrated by the ABA. Savers never transfer their funds out of the banks unless they are hoarding currency or convert to other National currencies. The NBFIs are the DFI’s customers.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
The NBFIs are the DFI’s customers

I looked up the acronyms, but remain confused. NBFI = non-bank financial institutions. DFI = development financial institutions. Wrong acronyms, or my mental block? How are those two connected, and what DFIs are you referring to?

Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
And for a change, the Progressives will actually be moaning about a legitimate issue.
Aside from Warren I don’t see anyone really for banking reform. We would get massive deflation if half of what Warren proposed for regulation actually got passed. This would actually be a good thing for main street.
MPO45
MPO45
1 year ago
i think we’ve reached a point where any action will have a negative effect regardless the intent. The financial system is so screwed up right now I marvel at how it hasn’t collapsed.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  MPO45
Agree. But who has benefitted the most by this ? It certainly isn’t anyone that works for a living. The investor and trader class along with lobbyists in finance and in Washington is responsible for this. This includes the Fed, investment banks and many politicians of both parties. The only way out is reforming the system.
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
I wouldn’t trust the Fake Cherokee Princess to tell me the time if we were standing in front of a wall clock connected to NIST’s atomic clock, much less tell me her ideas about financial regulation. LOL
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
You must not know her background very well if this is all you think.
Warren’s earliest academic work was heavily influenced by the law and economics movement, which aimed to apply neoclassical economic theory to the study of law with an emphasis on economic efficiency. One of her articles, published in 1980 in the Notre Dame Law Review, argued that public utilities were over-regulated and that automatic utility rate increases should be instituted.[33] But Warren soon became a proponent of on-the-ground research into how people respond to laws. Her work analyzing court records and interviewing judges, lawyers, and debtors, established her as a rising star in the field of bankruptcy law.[34] According to Warren and economists who follow her work, one of her key insights was that rising bankruptcy rates were caused not by profligate consumer spending but by middle-class families’ attempts to buy homes in good school districts.[35] Warren worked in this field alongside colleagues Teresa A. Sullivan and Jay Westbrook, and the trio published their research in the book As We Forgive Our Debtors in 1989. Warren later recalled that she had begun her research believing that most people filing for bankruptcy were either working the system or had been irresponsible in incurring debts, but that she concluded that such abuse was in fact rare and that the legal framework for bankruptcy was poorly designed, describing the way the research challenged her fundamental beliefs as “worse than disillusionment” and “like being shocked at a deep-down level”.[33] In 2004, she published an article in the Washington University Law Review in which she argued that correlating middle-class struggles with over-consumption was a fallacy.
The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Mothers and Fathers Are Going Broke is a 2004 popular nonfiction book by Elizabeth Warren and her daughter Amelia Warren Tyagi. The book examines the causes of increasing rates of personal bankruptcy and economic insecurity in American households. It was reissued in 2016.[1]
Causal factors[edit]

The authors present quantitative data to demonstrate how American middle-class families have been left in a precarious financial position by increases in fixed living expenses, increased medical expenses, escalating real estate prices, lower employment security, and the relaxation of credit regulation.[2][6] The result has been a reshaping of the American labor force, such that many families now rely on having two incomes in order to meet their expenses.[2] This situation represents a greater level of financial risk than that faced by single-income households: the inability of either adult to work, even temporarily, may result in loss of employment, and concomitant loss of medical coverage and the ability to pay bills.[6][4] This may lead to bankruptcy or being forced to move somewhere less expensive, with associated decreases in educational quality and economic opportunity.[2]

Among the expenses driving the two-income trap are child care, housing in areas with good schools, and college tuition. Warren and Tyagi conclude that having children is the “single best predictor” that a woman will go bankrupt.[7]

Warren and Tyagi call stay-at-home mothers of past generations “the most important part of the safety net”, as the non-working mother could step in to earn extra income or care for sick family members when needed.[3] However, Warren and Tyagi dismiss the idea of return to stay-at-home parents, and instead propose policies to offset the loss of this form of insurance.[6]

Warren and Tyagi attempt to overturn the “overconsumption myth” that Americans’ financial instabilities are the result of frivolous spending[4] – they note, for instance, that families are spending less on clothing, food (including meals out), and large appliances, when adjusted for inflation, than a generation prior.[8] They also note that dual-income households have less discretionary money than single-income households a generation prior.[6]

Proposals[edit]

The authors propose several solutions to the “two-income trap”. In order to decouple educational opportunity from real estate location, they propose allowing families to choose among public schools in their district, with a voucher system.[6] They recommend tuition freezes for public universities, which have seen tuitions rise three times faster than inflation.[6] They endorse universal preschool as a means of reducing fixed costs for families with children.[6] Warren and Tyagi take care to consider possible perverse consequences of various social programs aimed at middle-class economic relief.[4]

Warren and Tyagi also call for the restoration of “usury laws” limiting credit interest rates, and increased disclosure requirements for creditors.[6] They suggest revisiting policies that have encouraged home ownership by making mortgages available with little or no down payment.[6] Then-Senator Joe Biden comes under heavy criticism for promoting legislation friendly to the banking industry.[4]

JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Warren is a corrupt liar, just as Biden and Trump are corrupt liars. We can yammer forever about structures and policies and politics, but in the end it really does come down to character. We’re all sinners, so perfection isn’t the requirement. A certain amount of chicanery is the grease that keeps things running, and it’s impossible to truly draw the line. But you know it when you see it, and it’s people like Warren, et al who are killing not only America but “the West.”

Bottom line: I don’t care what her ideas are. She’s a worthless human being.

Jackula
Jackula
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Once in the pickle jar they turn into pickles
JackWebb
JackWebb
1 year ago
Reply to  Jackula
She was a lying cheater before going into politics.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
1 year ago
Reply to  JackWebb
Yeah, but she did a lot of good work as noted above before she became a nut case and DC prostitute.

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