Schumer Plans Build Back Better Vote Next Year, Manchin Responds

A Vote to Nowhere 

The WSJ reports Schumer Plans Build Back Better Vote Next Year

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) said Democrats would plow forward early next year with a vote on the party’s roughly $2 trillion education, healthcare and climate package as Sen. Joe Manchin again said he wouldn’t be pressured into supporting the bill.

Mr. Manchin, whose backing Democrats need in the 50-50 Senate, said on Sunday that he was opposed to the bill, effectively killing it in its current form. The West Virginia Democrat said Monday that lawmakers should start from square one to rebuild a potential package and criticized the White House for its handling of talks.

In a morning letter to Senate Democrats, Mr. Schumer said Democrats would still take up the legislation, dubbed the Build Back Better Act, early next year after weeks of “deep discontent and frustration.” 

The Senate will, in fact, consider the Build Back Better Act, very early in the new year so that every Member of this body has the opportunity to make their position known on the Senate floor, not just on television,” Mr. Schumer wrote, in a reference to Mr. Manchin’s appearance on Fox News Sunday in which he announced his stance.

Inexcusable Comments From Press Secretary 

Mr. Manchin also said he was frustrated with White House staff, suggesting that they leaked the contents of his negotiations with President Biden.

“They put some things out that were absolutely inexcusable,” he said. The White House declined to comment.

Process What Process? 

“Don’t you think maybe a committee should put eyes on it, have hearings where the public can see what the differences may be between Democrats or between Democrats and Republicans? That’s what hearings are for. And then make the decision,” Mr. Manchin said.

Precisely. Manchin had his requirements for a bill since April. Here they are again.

Unbelievable Position

It [the bill] was entirely rewritten to meet his demands. This is his bill more than anyone else’s.”

It is nearly unbelievable for anyone to suggest the House bill was rewritten to support Manchin’s demands. 

But we are dealing with delusional Progressives, two words always tied together.

Sanders Attempts to Shame Manchin

Manchin said he is very comfortable with having a vote. It was Schumer who delayed the vote!

Who’s Lying?

Manchin Should Leave the Party

Shame Shame!

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi violated all six of Manchin’s requirements.

Meanwhile, President Biden sat idle. Worse than that, Biden and the progressives repeatedly attempt to shame Manchin into submission.

Delusional Democrats still don’t get it. Efforts to shame Manchin into submission have backfired and will continue to do so.

Hopefully, Manchin gets sick of this nonsense and leaves the party. He should.

Precisely my hope.

If he leaves the party, I suspect will be as an independent who caucuses with Republicans as opposed to a Republican.

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wmjack50
wmjack50
4 years ago
The Democrat Federal Government must take and print money from productive people to support the parasite voter base to stay in power. Prof. Walter Williams explains that poor people (not handicapped) are poor because they only serve themselves while Rich people serve others with a skill—both are compensated with “certificates of performance ” (money) proving whether of not they have served their  fellowman. These COPs are used when you make a claim on your fellowman at a store to purchase his inventory. This is how the world works.
POKERCAT
POKERCAT
4 years ago
1.7 T over 10 years? How about “Defense” spending 780B per year 10 years 7T to kill brown people all over the earth rather than spending a little money to make American lives better. Cut “defense” by 107B per year problem solved. Better yet cut “defense” by half and really BBB.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  POKERCAT
“…spending a little money to make American lives better”
Some clown Junta stealing people’s money to spend it on self aggrandizement, doesn’t make the lives of those they have to steal from to fund the nonsense “better.”
If the trash absolutely have to spend money stolen from Americans somewhere, I suppose halfway around the world at least keeps the spending a little bit safer for Americans. But yes, by all means, cut defense spending. To somewhere around the amount spent by the guys who just kicked “our” overpaid rears, would be a good start. Then follow up by cutting other spending to a similar degree. Then, who knows, maybe “we” can get to the point where “we” can kick the rears of aspiring invading armies, too.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Biden is either insincere about his own BBB proposals or extremely weak (or both).   If any Senator had shown his middle finger to LBJ the way Manchin did to Biden, the Senator would find himself in hospital with 9 fingers!   
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
My Caudilo’s daddy can beat up your Caudillo’s daddy!!
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
It’s unlikely that we’ll see Manchin assassinated. The Governor of W. Virginia, Jim Justice, is currently a Republican, so if Manchin were to get taken down, a Republican would replace him.
Six000mileyear
Six000mileyear
4 years ago
Comrade Sanders doesn’t understand the people in WV. BBB would DESTROY that state’s economy as coal mines are shuttered en-masse. Sen Manchin would be better off remaining a Democrat and voting against all these left leaning bills. Smart democrats will quickly realize party infighting hurts more than fighting those outside the democratic party.
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  Six000mileyear
68 percent of West Virginians support BBB.   https://www.filesforprogress.org/memos/bbb-wv.pdf

Are you saying they are stupid?

bgwms
bgwms
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
whirlaway, did you actually read the presentation of the questions in the link you posted?  Who wouldn’t want all free stuff paid for by the “rich and evil corporations?”  Total BS
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  bgwms
Not at all.   Corporations have gone from paying 1 dollar in taxes for every 3 dollars that people paid to 1 dollar for every 8 dollars now.   It is high time that trend is reversed.   
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
“Are you saying they are stupid?”
If they support anything this senile kleptocracy is doing, then obviously yes.
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
The NYT commentariat is VERY UNHAPPY with Joe Manchin! [lol]
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Psychologically, it’s obvious that there are some people not used to dealing with people who have principles, and a backbone. They more they try to corner him, and attack him, and force him to acquiesce in what they want, the more stubborn and intractable he will become. A better plan, assuming that they actually want to pass something, would be to agree to some of what he wants so that he can claim victory, and move on.
Jojo
Jojo
4 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Why not require each bill to be a separate entity?  Child care is one bill.  Pre-kindergarten is one bill.  Family leave is one bill, etc.  
This would make it a lot easier to see what is being voted on and how much this will actually cost.  Easy peasy, yes?
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
People too stupid to understanding even things which are clearcut and straightforward, benefit from making everything a hairball so convoluted that even those a less stupid give up trying to fully grasp it all. After all, when noone understands, everyone’s equal, and the dimbulbs are no longer so obviously inferior.
It’s the same story across all disciplines. The truly dumb and clueless abhor MC^2 and simple logic. Instead insisting that everything is “complicated” and don’t have “simple solutions” and every little thing is an “exception” that “we” (meaning the dumb) “need to debate” and hold and find and deem and decide something about.
Add it all up, and you arrive at the current Age of Incompetence.
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Jojo
Yes, that would make it much easier to see what is being voted on, which is precisely why they don’t do it.
HubbaBuba
HubbaBuba
4 years ago
As said Mr Pompace your not comparing where things were at! 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Manchin Should Leave the Party
My fervent wish is that more Dems would grow a pair and follow Manchin’s lead.
It’s like…..if you’re a Democrat, then any amount of spending that rakes in more votes from the beneficiaries of that largesse…is somehow good….damn the long term consequences. You know, everybody pays taxes….and nobody benefits from destroying the buying power of the currency. Even the poor pay sales tax, and inflation hits the poor harder than it does the rich, for sure. A 6% CPI doesn’t make me have to cancel my vacation.
I also have a hard time bragging on the Republicans. I seriously doubt their real motivation on suddenly being fiscal conservatives anyway, because that narrative has shown itself to be false over and over. They just know their votes come from people who don’t like social welfare of any kind.
Did this country’s politicians ever stand on principles, or has it always just been us vs. them?  
Carl_R
Carl_R
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Leave it for where? The Libertarian Party would be his best choice, I think. Republicans have no use for independent thinkers with a backbone, who do what they think is right, either.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
“Did this country’s politicians ever stand on principles…”
I would guess that some have. Why does someone run for a political office? Their own self interest. They love to call it public service, but when they get pulled over by the cops, “do you know who i am?” They are filled with their own self importance.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Republicans are worse IMO. At least historically.
My biggest issue is it was originally intended to be a stimulus program, but with high inflation and a lot of job openings, we don’t need stimulus now. We don’t want stimulus now. Better to shelve it until we need economic stimulus.
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
New final proposal (by shamrock): Cut child tax credits from $3600 and $3000 to $3000 and $2400, 10 year cost $1T.  Add in family leave $200b, and $500b for climate change.  $1.7t fully funded for 10 years.  Done and done.
HubbaBuba
HubbaBuba
4 years ago
Oh pompous one, you DO NOT KNOW what was in the bill in its final negotiations. 
No serious debate happens with constant position disclosures. Your comping Vs some old position. 
whirlaway
whirlaway
4 years ago
Reply to  HubbaBuba
Exactly.  Whatever position Manchin had in the past doesn’t matter.  He was ostensibly in negotiations and the status of those negotiations is the only thing that matters.   
shamrock
shamrock
4 years ago
Just out, Manchins final proposal stripped everything except Universal Pre-k, Obamacare expansion, and climate change.  No child tax credit, no free child care, no family leave.  Apparently the administration was preparing to negotiate from that proposal when Manchin decided to go on Fox news and kill it.
blacklisted
blacklisted
4 years ago
I understand why the MSM NEVER mentions the origin of Build Back Better, but why don’t you?  This has been an international plot to take over the US, orchestrated by the WEF, and carried out by the other globalist wanna-be’s at the UN, IMF, along with Soros and Gates. The career politicians, who only care about retaining their perks and power, are going along with Schwab’s “solution” for the unsustainable debt (which is defaults), because the correct solution is downsizing govt.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  blacklisted
“This has been an international plot to take over the US, orchestrated by the WEF”
Uh….! The US was taken over decades ago. 
By the exact same mediocrities who have taken over the WEF, in fact.
Which is why, by now there’s nothing left in the US, of neither merit nor value, to take over anyway.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Soon we’ll find out if Manchin has an intern … or babysitter … that can be compromised …
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
…Or an illegal alien that mows his lawn.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“Sanders Attempts to Shame Manchin”
I know how he feels. Biden and Fauci keep trying shame me.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
The people in the video dance much better than Schumer I find. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Amazing how one party accuses the other of trying to destroy democracy and then goes berserk when one of their own won’t vote the way they want. Not sure the democrats understand what a democracy is.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Not “understand what a democracy is,” is a subset of not understanding anything at all. So, of course they don’t.

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