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Stagflation Light Might Strike as Early as the Third Quarter This Year

What is Stagflation?

Stagflation is recession coupled with inflation. 

Great Depression era economist John Maynard Keynes thought the combination of  recession and inflation was impossible.

That should have ended Keynesian nonsense right then and there. Unfortunately, it didn’t.

Explaining Keynesian 

Keynes believes in government spending, stimulus, and other economic free money prime the pump nonsense.

Governments and academia latched on to free money and stimulus ideas. Thus, it’s no wonder Keynesian nonsense is the overwhelming consensus thinking. 

GDPNow Forecast

The October 5 GDPNow forecast is for 1.3% growth. That’s low and at the stall rate, but seemingly not recession material. 

Look closer. Real Final Sales are the true bottom line measure of GDP.

Inventory changes net to zero over time. 

The latest GDPNow measure of real final sales is -1.0%. That is recessionary. 

If these numbers stick, third-quarter GDP will only be positive based on an inventory build. 

Case For Recession

  1. Tax hikes: Recessionary
  2. Tariffs (Biden is following Trump and threatens more): Recessionary
  3. Stock Market Bubbles: Inflationary While Expanding, Deflationary and Recessionary when collapsing.
  4. Attitudes
  5. Energy Policy: Mandating 80% clean energy by 2030: Stagflationary 
  6. Biden’s $1.5 trillion to $3.5 Trillion “Build Back Better” Plan: Inflationary 
  7. Continuing Supply Chain Woes: Stagflationary 
  8. Wage Hike Escalations: Inflationary

Point-by-Point Discussion

Regarding point number 1, if any deal is signed, it will include at least some tax hikes. 

Regarding point number 2,  Biden to Continue Trump’s Chaotic Policy on China, Just More Politely

Biden is threatening China with more tariffs, even though Trump showed how useless tariffs are. Worse yet, Biden is starting from a far worse inflationary setup than Trump.

Regarding points 3 and 4, Stock market speculation is rampant. People feel wealthy and spend. A sustained stock market decline would likely curtail car buying and people chasing houses. Attitudes matter.

Point 5 is the biggest killer: Energy prices are already soaring. Forcing businesses to move to 80% clean energy by 2030 is simply crazy. 

Senator Manchin is worried about the inflationary impact of Build Back America. He is rightly worried. The question at hand is how much he gives in.

Regarding point 7, supply chain disruptions may have peaked but they have not gone away.

Regarding point 8, please note BofA Raises Minimum Wage to $21, Wage Push Inflation Will Kill Small Businesses

Three Measures of Inflation are All Running Hot

Note that Three Measures of Inflation are All Running Hot.

Finally, the Fed will start tapering, supposedly. Whether the Fed does or doesn’t will likely not matter. 

If the Fed doesn’t taper will be because the economy is weak. If the Fed does taper, it could easily affect attitudes.

At best, the economy is slowing. Rate cuts? Nope, not possible unless the Fed goes negative.

Yet, recession seems to be on no one’s mind.

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FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
People forget easily, especially so within the context of a so called pandemic environment, let s face it though, the economic situation was becoming very gloomy even before Covid…So what could possible have improved a already dire situation?  Of course, even more insane Keynes like stimulus has pushed asset prices through the fn roof again or into the stratosphere rather… the time of the  reckoning though WILL arrive at one point, no doubt about it…. 
El_Tedo
El_Tedo
4 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels
You mean historically low unemployment rates? Historically high stock market?  
El_Tedo
El_Tedo
4 years ago
The cost of funerals, burial plots and treating myocarditis will certainly be rising sharply.   
Cocoa
Cocoa
4 years ago
The supply chain stuff is just coverfire for avoiding price deflation. Most of our supply chain disruptions are starting in Asia-no monopoly or collusion laws there. No redundancy in supply chain, and vectors of the planet are designated as supply areas. So US has no ability to switch suppliers. Europe is even worse off.
If you can CHARGE more per UNIT, then you do not need to MAKE MORE. That covers the revenue shortfall and of course, prevents price deflation-the holy grail of economists. Plus, even here nobody is enforcing collusion laws, monopoly laws or fair competition laws to bring prices down.
Large conglomerates or government controlled cartels are managing supplies of chips and certain base products-US and Europe is hopeless in getting changes. Especially since Tariffs continue. Game over for US and the consumer. I suggest growing your victory garden, paying debt down and buying less
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Less than 2 months ago 36 “experts” weighed in on Q3:
 “The panel predicts real GDP will grow at an annual rate of 6.8 percent this quarter”
And for good measure:
“The forecasters expect only a small likelihood of a contraction in real GDP in any of the next five quarters, and these new estimates are slightly below those of the previous survey.”
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Well then. There you have it. No recession possible.
And I just found out I overpaid my 2020 taxes by nearly 90K.  Party on.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
I’m guessing that a strike by IATSE will be recessionary for Hollywood, if it happens. I have seen the actors and writers go on strike, locally, but never the people running the filming equipment.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Inflation is being caused by a gross over reaction to covid. I suspect it will take another year or so to get back to normal. Probably sooner if the so called progressives stop getting in the way.
If you’ve watched any recent sporting events, hardly anyone in the crowd is wearing a mask. Seems only democratic politicians think mask wearing is a good idea and necessary.
Doug78
Doug78
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Only when a camera is on them.
RonJ
RonJ
4 years ago
“What is Stagflation?”
When you see your headlights reflecting back at you in the eyes of the deer, motionless, while staring at you.
MrGrummpy
MrGrummpy
4 years ago
Generally the anticipation of inflation is reflected in interest rates.  The Fed won’t allow that.  So investors are left with the option of buying anything that they guess will increase in price as inflation rises. 
Equities seem to be very highly  priced.  I would like to consider other investments to protect the buying power of my resources. 
Any suggestions?
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  MrGrummpy
I think precious metals are insanely cheap compared to the alternatives. But, keep in mind, the last thing the FED wants is for gold to skyrocket in value.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Reply to  MrGrummpy
yes , ICE automobiles/trucks  .   Still has some upside. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  MrGrummpy
Silver looks pretty good here to me, but what do I know.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
yikers , this guy is all over  the place, maybe Blackrock can create a Jpow etf ?    I don’t want to miss out /s  
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
OT….added a starter in KRBN today on the current pullback. I don’t like ETF’s but it looks like the best way for a retail investor to get some exposure to carbon cap and trade.
There are 3 carbon futures markets AFAIK, and KRBN is weighted 75% to the European Union , 20% to the California market, and 6% to RGI, which covers several NE states in the US.  Kraneshares also just listed 2 new ETF’s that are pure plays on EU  and CA if one prefers to put a different weight in different markets. Other than that, I see no reason to buy them.
This has been a high flyer, but I think I need to own it for the future, and it doesn’t look horribly overpriced to me here. It’s hard to know what fair value is at this point, but I think these cap and trade markets are going to get much bigger. 
Downside, no dividend….but it fits the portfolio otherwise, and it’s early days.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
I don’t see how we possibly avoid stagflation, other than adding lots more stimulus, which is bound to have all kinds of unintended negative consequences.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
A good hard global recession would do wonders …
Seriously
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
I don’t think more stimulus can stop stagflation. Only because no amount of money can make the supply chains move any faster so all that will happen is people will bid up the existing items on shelves (or stocks/real estate) even higher (inflation) with more stimulus money.
Until the supply chain situations sorts itself out (maybe another year or so) it’s going to be really hard to tell where things stand. For example Mish shows real final sales at -1% for October. How much of that is simply due to nothing available on the shelves to buy so sales are down because of no inventory. Or is some (a lot) of it due to simply running out of finite resources. Or are we heading into a true recession.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Good points. I can buy that argument.
Flatlaxity
Flatlaxity
4 years ago

Bank of America analysts, who have
been accurately clairvoyent of late, predict that the third quarter slowdown
will be followed by a third quarter resurgence back to 6 percent.  Their
concern is whether the supply side can handle the higher demand.  https://business.bofa.com/en-us/content/market-strategies-insights/global-economy-outlook-and-forecast.html 

On the other hand, Mark Hulbert, a
frequent contributor to “MarketWatch”, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/u-s-consumers-are-gloomy-about-their-finances-and-that-means-a-recession-could-be-near-11632815496?mod=home-page,
feels that a recession could be near.  

U.
Michigan’s consumer sentiment survey showed a remarkable drop of 13.4 percent
from July to August, followed by a couple of percent gain (preliminary) in
Sept.  Such a drop has been generally accompanied by a recession. 

Inflation
is a both a laggard and a stubborn influence.   Dr. Richard Curtin,
the chief economist for the U Mich survey relates:  “The reaction of
consumers to rising prices has been to postpone purchases, given their fears of
falling future living standards as well as the presumed transient nature of
inflation due to the pandemic. The partisan wrangling about debt ceilings and
infrastructure programs, along with rising market interest rates, will produce
greater negative spending forces, unless quickly reversed.”  https://news.umich.edu/inflation-raises-uncertainty-about-future-living-standards/ 

However Dr. Curtin does leave open the option of a consumer recovery in 2022. 

Hope
springs eternal….

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  Flatlaxity
“Bank of America analysts, who have been accurately clairvoyent of late, predict that the third quarter slowdown will be followed by a third quarter resurgence back to 6 percent.”
Clairvoyant, eh?  
Back in August Meyer ratched down Q3 GDP to +4.5% … from +7.0%!!
Just another clueless toadie.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“If these numbers stick, third-quarter GDP will only be positive based on an inventory build.”
I own a small business.  Getting inventory last Fall / Winter a serious issue.  In the Spring got (somewhat) better,  BUT the problem this Summer has been vendors announcing price increases (with shipping situation used as cause ALWAYS) that in some case quite substantial … leading to front run orders before price increase kicking in.  
ed_retired_actuary
ed_retired_actuary
4 years ago
John Maynard Keynes was a lot smarter and more flexible than most “Keynesian” economists that followed. who in turn are mostly smarter than politicians on both sides of the aisle who use economic slogans to justify policies popular with their bases or contributors, who in turn may be smarter than they are pictured by commentators with an ax to grind.
Although I am not an economic scholar, it is hard for me to believe that Keynes was not aware of numerous historical examples of monetary debasement of various forms.  Hence his advocacy of govt stimulus policies only as a temporary expedient to counter depressed private demand, to be followed by govt. surpluses in good times to maintain fiscal solvency.  I do not think that he would approve of continued massive stimulus lasting as long as it has into the current recovery,.
The proposed tax increases are to levels at or less than those in the US during periods of robust economic growth during much of the past century.  In practice. many multinational corporations will still have the tools to hold their effective tax rates near single digits.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
4 years ago
“I do not think that he would approve of continued massive stimulus lasting as long as it has into the current recovery,.”
He never even considered that his type of recommended stimulus would not be temporary, because he lived in a world that had never tested the limits to growth, and nobody foresaw how his work would be used as an excuse for profligate spending, decade after decade, in the absence of real economic health in the economy.
Keynes gets a bad rap.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“The proposed tax increases are to levels at or less than those in the US during periods of robust economic growth during much of the past century.”
Solid post.  It bothers me to no end those bantering around “Keynesian” NEVER mention running a surplus during Good Times.
The only problem with tax increases now is the immense amount of debt strewn across all sectors.  Any glitch and house of cards economy collapses.
QTPie
QTPie
4 years ago
Governmental Keynesian counter-cyclical response makes sound economic sense.
The problem is that the politicians only implement it during times of recession. During economic expansion they instead act pro-cyclically, i.e., they continue deficit spending like drunken sailors instead of building surpluses which is what Keynesian theory says they should do.
I cringe whenever folks call politicians “Keynesian” as a derogatory term when said politicians undertake massive deficit spending when growth is positive and employment is low. Those people obviously have no freakin’ idea what Keynesian theory actually says, they’re just repeating what some idiot said on TV.
TCW
TCW
4 years ago
Keep in mind that the higher tax rates were never paid before 1986 because the tax code encouraged investment as a way to write down taxable income.  Many of those deductions were taken away in the 86 re-write and deficits have increased since. 
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
4 years ago
The main mistake of Keynes was not to realize that the elected representatives of the people can never tell good times from bad, so they keep spending until they can’t.
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Maybe those ” Preppers” are on to something . Non the less, a well stocked pantry is optimal. Support your local farmer’s market and cottage food industry. Any spending programs initiated at this point will be counter productive – kinda like reverse synergy.   Can’t the left wait until the post covid economy recovers ? come on man .      
thimk
thimk
4 years ago
Reply to  thimk
I was not advocating hoarding .

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