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Stock Market Rout, Four Biggest Banks Lose $47 Billion in Market Cap

$BKK Bank Index courtesy of StockCharts, annotations by Mish

Four Biggest U.S. Banks Lose $47 Billion in Market Value

  • JPMorgan lost about $20 billion in market value Thursday.
  • Bank of America lost roughly $15 billion.
  • Wells Fargo‘s market capitalization was down $8.5 billion.
  • Citigroup‘s was down $3 billion.

Bank declines from FactSet via Wall Street Journal

The Wall Street Journal reports Four Biggest U.S. Banks Lose $47 Billion in Market Value

Bank investors were spooked by SVB Financial Group’s decision to sell a large chunk of its securities portfolio at a $1.8 billion loss as it deals with an outflow of deposits, which more than halved the technology-focused bank’s stock.

The banking industry has more than $600 billion in unrealized losses on its securities holdings, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., the result of stowing extra cash in bonds when rates were super low. Now that rates have risen, the prices of the bonds have gone down significantly.

Banks likely won’t have to sell their bonds at a loss unless they have big outflows of deposits. But fears of such losses combined to hammer the stocks.

Mark-to-Fantasy

Thanks to suspension of mark-to-market accounting rules in March of 2009, (ironically, something I mentioned two days ago on Twitter), banks can hold bonds as investments and not mark any losses.

It was suspension of mark-to-market rules that reignited the stock and bond markets making the final bottom of the Great Recession. 

$BKK – Weekly Bank Index 

$BKK Bank Index courtesy of StockCharts, annotations by Mish

Ewave Analysis 

This is about as clean of an Elliott Wave chart count as you can get. That does not make it right, and there is that pesky gap in the lead chart. 

Gaps eventually fill. But the individual charts today from FactSet does not show pesky gaps. I did not look individually to see what other gaps there may be.

Regardless, the $BKK weekly is a very nasty count. Wave threes are generally the longest and strongest wave. 

If a wave 3 has started, a decline from here would likely be huge and unrelenting. I will post Ewave charts of the S&P 500 later this evening or tomorrow. 

Powell’s Hawkish Speech to Congress Sends Interest Rate Hike Odds Soaring

Data from CME Fedwatch, weighted average calculation by Mish

On March 7, I reported Powell’s Hawkish Speech to Congress Sends Interest Rate Hike Odds Soaring

Yesterday, CME Fedwatch had the March 22 rate hike odds of 50 basis point at 78.6 percent. 

Today, those odds fell to 64.6 percent. But a month ago, the odds of 50 basis point hike was only 9.2 percent. 

We will get another chance for a surge or decline on Friday’s job report. 

The odds of an “accident” keep increasing as noted earlier today in Forget About Openings, Quits Tell a Better Story of Job Market Strength

This post originated at MishTalk.Com.

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Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
With SIVB the 18th largest bank, you wonder where the bank examiners were doing?
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
SIVB has is now in FDIC receivership. Wonder which dominoes will fall next. Most of their deposits were over FDIC limits. Ouch.
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
Just to be clear, bonds “held to maturity” never had to be marked-to-market.
Most longer-dated bonds held by banks are in the “held to maturity” category.
Now should a bank need to sell a longer dated bond to raise cash in response to deposit outflows, that is an actual realized loss.
I just removed two large ($1MM+) Trust accounts from Citibank. They were in the “Citigold Advantage Checking” product that was paying 0.01% interest.
The Official Checks took SEVEN business days to clear at my local bank.
Not exactly confidence inspiring.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Bam_Man
The fact the “Advantage” account pays 0.01 is not confidence inspiring. My high interest savings account pays a puny 1%. I am emptying it, but what does it signal? Are the banksters waiting for STHF, and desperate pivot?
Bam_Man
Bam_Man
3 years ago
I think this might be the “problem” the big banks are dealing with. They have been getting away with paying next-to-nothing on deposit accounts for years, and for the most part still are. People are waking up and moving funds to higher interest alternatives. Re-pricing an entire portfolio of deposits upwards to retain the funds is extremely expensive, and the big banks do not want to do that. That is evidently causing a liquidity problem for some.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
The issue is the amount of HTM net unrealized losses.
Yesterday SVIB’s attemp to raise capital failed.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Yeah because who was going to give them money that would immediately be withdrawn by depositors.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Probably disclosed that it lent to a number of crypto companies. It was the next big thing when money was dirt cheap.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Bet Bankman Fried is somehow connected with them.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
“Silicon Valley Bank is shut down by regulators in biggest bank failure since global financial crisis”
News one hour ago.
Trading was halted earlier today.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
They made borrowers put their loan deposits with them. So, you have a bunch of companies that owe the bank a lot of money and most of the money they borrowed is now gone. A complicated thing to sort out.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I would have thought that it would be preferable to have a line of credit instead of this more complicated arrangement.
UconJac
UconJac
3 years ago
are we getting close to a PPT moment or are we already there?
Mjs357
Mjs357
3 years ago
As they say in the Wolf of Wall St, “It’s all Fugazi”.
In military terms, it’s indicators and Warnings (I&W)
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
The screws are tightening on banks.
And dead ahead is debt ceiling. Of course, it will be resolved after the shouting all done, but aftermath won’t be a nothingburger.
Treasury General Account is the Department of Treasury’s cash on hand to pay bills. A year ago $645 billion. Wednesday $311 billion. When debt ceiling debate over Treasury will flood the market with high yield T bills to restock. $$s will leave bank saving accounts (still paying near 0%) to accomodate.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
A lot of banks are offering 12 month CDs at competing rates.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Yes, but I was referring to savings account. With a 12 month cd you are tying up your liquidity.
Savings account interest rate around .25% … 30 day treasury bill current yield 4.7%.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Money market accounts at many local banks currently yield around 4%.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Once again, I’m referring to SAVINGS ACCOUNT.
A money market not the same thing. Possible minimum balance. Withdrawal limits.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
At most banks money market accounts act the same as savings accounts.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
To paraphrase Jay Leno’s Doritos commercial:
“Spend all you want. We’ll print more!”
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Dr. Philip George says: the corrected money supply “Still running high at 30% year on year. It was 100% a year ago.”
N-gDp is still running too hot.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Dr. Philip George says: the corrected money supply “Still running high at 30% year on year. It was 100% a year ago.”
Can you show his math? M1 & M2 (real and nominal) down year over year (Jan) per Federal Reserve.
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
I asked him where the corrected money supply was. He replied in an e-mail. And “When
interest rates go up, flows into savings and time deposits increase” ( the
ratio of M1 to the sum of 12 months savings ).
TMS and Divisia Aggregates have turned negative.
The rate-of-change in currency in circulation is back to 2010 levels. The
6-month roc in our means-of-payment money has turned negative. When the
10-month roc turns negative there will be a recession. But now the FED won’t
know about it after a lag.
Unbeknownst to the FED’s Ph.Ds., the distributed lag
effect of money flows, the volume and velocity of money, are mathematical
constants. There is no “Fool in the Shower”. Economics is the dismal science. The economy is being run in reverse. The welfare of the banks is codependent upon the welfare of the nonbanks (putting monetary savings back to work). Savings flowing through the nonbanks never leaves the payments system (with the exception of the O/N RRP facility).
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta

As
I said: The only tool, credit control device, at the disposal of the monetary
authority in a free capitalistic system through which the volume of money can
be properly controlled is legal reserves. The FED will obviously, sometime in
the future, lose control of the money stock.

May
8, 2020. 10:38 AMLink

The Banking Act of 1935 gave the BOG permanent power to fix the reserve ratios applicable to member banks within limits set by Congress. The maximum and minimum limits to this discretionary power were amended by the 1948 Act for the three classes of member banks: Country, Reserve City, and Central Reserve City.

An increase in reserve requirements immediately impacts inflation. There is no lag effect / waiting period. Draining legal reserves for 29 contiguous months caused the GFC. I.e., Bankrupt-u-Bernanke “did it again”.

0693lead.pdf (federalreserve.gov)
Link: Daniel L. Thornton, May 12, 2022:
“However, on March 26, 2020, the Board of
Governors reduced the reserve requirement on checkable deposits to zero. This
action ended the Fed’s ability to control M1.”
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta

And we knew this already:

In 1931 a commission was established on
Member Bank Reserve Requirements. The commission completed their
recommendations after a 7 year inquiry on Feb. 5, 1938. The study was entitled
“Member Bank Reserve Requirements — Analysis of Committee Proposal”

its 2nd proposal: “Requirements against
debits to deposits”

Member Bank Reserve Requirements: Analysis of Committee Proposal, Box 107 (stlouisfed.org)

After a 45 year hiatus, this research
paper was “declassified” on March 23, 1983. By the time this paper was
“declassified”, Nobel Laureate Dr. Milton Friedman had declared RRs to be a
“tax” [sic].

Revisit Richard Werner:
Prof. Werner brilliantly explains how the banking system and financial sector really work. – YouTube
The deregulation of Reg. Q ceilings was a conspiracy perpetrated by the ABA.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
“When interest rates go up, flows into savings and time deposits increase”
Per Federal Reserve
January 2023 over January 2022
demand deposits up
other liquid deposits down
overall net down
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Exactly. As the demand for money fell, velocity increased. N-gDp is still too high.
Dr. Daniel Thornton: “Because the concept
of velocity stems directly from the theory of the demand for money, anything
that affects velocity can be related to some aspect of the demand for
money.”
When large CDs turn, so will the economy
Large Time Deposits, All Commercial Banks (LTDACBM027NBOG) | FRED | St. Louis Fed (stlouisfed.org)
Salmo Trutta
Salmo Trutta
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta

As Dr. Philip George puts it: “Changes in
velocity have nothing to do with the speed at which money moves from hand to
hand but are entirely the result of movements between demand deposits and other
kinds of deposits”.

As Dr. Philip George says: “The velocity of
money is a function of interest rates”

Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  Salmo Trutta
Economics.
It’s not a career, it’s an adventure.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
It’s not a science, it’s an opinion.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Primary dealers have to buy treasuries. All the big banks are primary dealers. Unless the banks are forced to sell, they can just hold to maturity and not take losses. In reality, they’ll likely bundle them up in securities and try to sell them to unsophisticated investors.
The far bigger risk for banks is credit card and auto loan defaults. The bad mortgages are typically sold off to the GSEs and high yield investors.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
wtf are GSEs ?
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Government-Sponsored (subsidized) Enterprise.
Ginnie is owned outright by Uncle Sugar.
Fannie and Freddie are simply kept alive by Uncle Sugar.
FromBrussels2
FromBrussels2
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
thanks ….hate them f acronyms
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. While not technically part of the government, they’ll get bailed out by tax payers and/or the FED if their portfolio goes bust. Happened in 2008.
Contrary to what politicians claim, their main purpose is to provide a dumping ground for mortgages in order to keep mortgage rates low. Without them. mortgage rates would likely be 2+% higher.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  FromBrussels2
It’s an enterprise in which the gains are privatized, and the losses are socialized. Comprendes?
hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
One concern about the unrealized losses is if they have to sell to meet withdrawals. Because banks are not paying any interest on savings people can easily transfer out and buy treasuries at 5%.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  hmk
Wonder if this is the bank run scenario that was discussed as a de facto event by one of the FDIC committees back in December.
They were openly discussing the upcoming bail-in’s.
No more bail-outs.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
Here it is.
The FDIC Systemic Resolution Advisory Committee held a meeting in November to discuss bail-ins and how to deal with the approaching market collapse and hide alarming data from depositors to prevent bank runs.
Here is the short 1 min excerpt video clip:
The whole session available on FDIC website.
Christoball
Christoball
3 years ago
Imagine where stock prices would be if 5% of GDP were not spent on stock buybacks.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  Christoball
Reality
prumbly
prumbly
3 years ago
Elliot Waves! Next up, chicken entrails.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  prumbly
Or three tossed coins, or tea leaves, or Cramer, etc.
Dr Funkenstein
Dr Funkenstein
3 years ago

Buying opportunities!

PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
I don’t understand all this market negativity from so many here.
Personally, I am enjoying the market volatility. Great for trading. Meanwhile my core portfolio of oil stocks pays me over 7% in annual dividends, with great upside potential.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
You Sir, as they say, are on a roll!
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  PapaDave
“Meanwhile my core portfolio of oil stocks pays me over 7% in annual dividends, with great upside potential.”
Wait till energy starts slashing dividends … but your 7% “might” hold … as shares tank.
PapaDave
PapaDave
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett

The oil story hasn’t changed for over two years now Tony. (And I see, in spite of that, you are still hitting your head on the same brick wall.) The breakeven for most oil companies ranges from WTI $25 to $50. Since WTI has been exceeding breakeven by so much, they have been gushing cash flow for over two years.And what did they do with all that cash flow? Some goes to capex in order to sustain production. But that was a relatively small part. Most of it was used to pay down debt. Many of the companies I own are now debt free, or have hit their low debt targets. They now have fortress balance sheets.Since they no longer have to pay down anymore debt, they are free to return their future excess cash flow to shareholders, through dividends, buybacks or both. Many of the companies I own have committed to returning 50%, 75% and even 100% of that cash flow to shareholders. So the dividend rates are now increasing (for some companies, several times per year). Some are also declaring special dividends. Though some are focusing more on share buybacks.I expect the 7% to increase to over 10% by the end of this year. And considering the price I paid for these companies, that’s more than 30% dividend rates on my cost price.Those rates are sustainable at $80 WTI. And considering some of the companies I own have 30, 50, 70, and even 100 years of reserves to tap into, I look forward to juicy dividends for many years to come. Add in share buybacks and that will help share price appreciation. Many of these companies could buyback all their shares with just 3-6 years of excess cash flow.Incidentally, the executives at these companies have been buying their own company shares in large quantities in the open market for the last two years as well. That tells me that they see these shares as a no-brainer since they continue to trade at such low prices relative to historical valuations. I always ask what YOU are invested in, but you are always too afraid to reply. Apparently you like to criticize others, but can’t handle criticism yourself.

Dubronik
Dubronik
3 years ago
Ha…I just keep buying Short term treasuries paying me close to 5% rather than getting plucked in the market….
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Dubronik
You can buy 12 month CDs that pay the same.
This reminds me that I bought some TIPS. Haven’t checked in on them for months. I think they yield around 8% but you can only buy 10k/year.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
It’s I bonds that have the $10k/year limit.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Ok, thanks for the correction. That must be what I bought.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Just bought another 10k bond. 6.89%.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
No matter the sector, the data is always rightly compared to either the Great Depression or the Great Recession. Obviously a rocky road ahead. But I’m not worried at all because all around the world, the leaders are all so wise.
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
It will be called the The Long Recession which will end in the War to End all Wars. The operators are dusting up old labels to appease their subjects that it’s all worth it.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Foreign wars are undertaken in order to divert the slaves attention from the domestic messes the state created. This government, and really most governments, is already falling apart. Note the concertina wire in D.C.. That big war may be the plan, but the military already figures they’ll be employed domestically to enforce the government’s will. I highly doubt they’ll be successful. I think it’s going to get interesting, but I suck at making predictions. I do know that the people here, the ones that can think, know the state is not their friend. Covid drew a line in many ways, and it ain’t all in the state’s favor. Stupid people, as always comprise the vast majority, but they don’t matter. They’re slaves and the state can have them. It doesn’t take that many ticked off people to really run any plan the state can come up with right off the track. Liberty will win out. It’s inevitable. The only question is the cost. But, no matter the cost, it’ll be worth it.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Do you think they will be successful in removing private firearm ownership from the Americans?
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
From the idiot slaves, yes. But not from the ones that matter. Also, 3D printing and the C NC milling let the toothpaste out of the tube on people control; errr, I meant gun control. Ammo is the weak point there, but there’s always an end run around such things.
hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
The rag tag Taliban did pretty well against the most formidable military in the world. This is why our forefathers wisely included gun ownership and the right to protect yourself from the government into the constitution.
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  hmk
Well, more like they had to include it or the good people of Philadelphia might have lynched them. And, of course, we were in Afghanistan for many reasons, and the Taliban seemed complicit in much of it. A big reason being opium. But yeah, they didn’t have much of a central government for them to infiltrate, so those hillbillies that didn’t much cotton to outsiders, did a pretty good job!
hmk
hmk
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
Never here. That is the first step in democide which was responsible for about 150 million deaths in the 20th century. More that all the wars combined. For evil tyrants gun control does work.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  HippyDippy
Sounds like you are a left leaning liberal. Power to the People!
HippyDippy
HippyDippy
3 years ago
Reply to  Jack
Sounds like you’re an idiot. Ad hominem attacks, like you employ, are the go to choice for the weak minded. And now, you’re ignored.
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
3 years ago
The “War to End all Wars” was used the first time around.
Perhaps this time they will have the hubris to call it the Final War.
Depending upon the instrumentalities employed it just might be.
“World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” ― Albert Einstein
Maximus_Minimus
Maximus_Minimus
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
History is a pack of lies commonly agreed upon – Napoleon.
PS: I am highly skeptical that it originated in his head, as he is attributed with a couple dozen other wisdoms. Most likely stuck on him by contemporary court jesters. We’ll never find out.
Jack
Jack
3 years ago
Reply to  Lisa_Hooker
It starts with a civil war, progresses to the infinity war, and ends with the Endgame.
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
SVB Financial did the smart thing. They took the loss and now have liquidity.
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
They took the loss and they still lack liquidity. They’ll likely get bought out by a bigger financial institution with FED help, like how Wachovia and Merrill were swallowed.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Yes. I took a look at their financials. $55 billion of their highly liquid assets already pledged. Even worse, $150 billion of deposits NOT insured (wtf!) … didn’t think whales would be that stupid.
Bank run will continue until someone steps in. The bigger question … how many more SIVBs out there??
KidHorn
KidHorn
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
There are likely other small banks, but I think SIVB is somewhat unique. They mostly deal with startups. Higher risk on the food chain. But then again, remember how subprime was contained?
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
3 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
you know what they say about cockroaches …
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
That they are tasty and everyone should eat them to save the planet?
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Then they are screwed
Doug78
Doug78
3 years ago
Still on vacation and no hurry to get back in the market.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
BKX backup to July 1998 buying climax.
Mac Timred
Mac Timred
3 years ago
Sellers must have been on edge or looking for a reason to sell.
SVB is losing deposits probably because it banks VC backed companies, which now are not net raising money but net bleeding money. Unique situation.
Mac Timred
Mac Timred
3 years ago
Reply to  Mac Timred
Actually it is more likely nothing to do with SVB but rather fears of contagion from Silvergate closure. The Vix which has been quiescent for weeks, popped above 20 to 22. Indeed there may be insiders with non public info about Silvergate that is bad news.
8dots
8dots
3 years ago
SPX weekly : on the way to form a RS of H&S, or to reach/breach Aug 15 high.

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