This is a good thing. There is absolutely no rational explanation for why colleges should be involved in big money sports. Yes, there is a longstanding belief that people should have a healthy body as well as mind, but that is just as easily accomplished, or probably accomplished better, through club sports and intramural sports. So, why have colleges been so eager to be involved in big money sports? It brings in the donations to their general funds. The schools with successful athletic programs have also seen huge growth in their endowments. If you look at the schools with fast growing endowments, they almost always fit into one of two categories: Schools with top athletic programs, and schools with a dominant academic reputation (Ivy League, MIT, U. Chicago, Cal Tech, etc).
Perhaps these top sports programs can be moved off campus, to form a minor league for the NFL/NBA, etc. Then the colleges could rent out their stadiums and arenas,and things could go on.
I went to a Big Ten college. Football and basketball picked up the tab for all the club and intramural sports, also built the gyms, pools, etc.
KidHorn
2 years ago
So, the NCAA is evil for not paying their players a free market value. And at the same time, title ix requires women the same opportunities as men. Even if the women bring in far less revenue. So, it’s capitalism for men and socialism for women. Only Democrats would call this fair.
Actually it’s socialism for men given that men’s sports has essentially paid for Title IX for decades. Of course it’s also paid for all the lesser revenue men’s sports too so it’s really just socialism for Basketball and Football the 2 sports that foot the bill for the rest.
Anyway there is nothing in the ruling that says the NCAA has to pay free market value. Rather what I see is that the NCAA can no longer restrict athletes from making money in order to preserve ‘amateur status’. So they will be free to accept booster money or sell their ‘brand’ via autographs / appearances etc. Not sure why this wasn’t allowed decades ago since none of that costs the schools a dime. Or schools can opt to pay directly if they so choose.
Mr. Purple
2 years ago
The NCAA owes REPARATIONS.
Mackkenzie
2 years ago
This puts the nail in the coffin of even the veneer of amateur collegiate sports for the top schools in the most popular sports. We’ve already seen school after school shut down their football and basketball programs, or be relegated to lower level leagues, and this will just accelerate that process.
The end result is that big collegiate sport will be absolutely NO different from pro sports. At that point, who will even care about college sports anymore?
Maybe we can all just go and watch our local colleges compete in water polo.
davebarnes2
2 years ago
Baseball has a farm system. It is time for football and basketball to do the same. The free ride at/from universities should end.
The NBA has a semi-farm system, with a developmental league and numerous foreign leagues from which to draw.
Doug78
2 years ago
Bring back Roman-style gladiator sports and give us some real action. Society has regressed enough for it to become mainstream and as long as the gladiators avoid racial slurs its return will be welcomed.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
OT….if the dollar keeps falling like it fell today, we will see the metals make a much better bounce tomorrow, imho. The area I’m watching is around 93.50….if we don’t break above that, the dollar could still fade.
One thing about moves like the dollar made last week….. is that it just seems aberrant…..not part of the normal ebb and flow of markets. Obviously markets can always change direction…..but when a 3 month trend abruptly ends with a huge spike…and there is no clear reason it should have happened, I just wonder if somebody MADE it happen. I’m just a conspiracy theorist I guess.
xbizo
2 years ago
Random thoughts.
It will be interesting to see where this lands. Obviously the kids are worth nothing, or next to nothing, without the school. But schools are now dependent on football and basketball money to fund their athletic departments. Remember, we really only talking about fifty schools.
Is there any ground on which total athletic budget is the measure, or does each sport have to make a profit now? If the men’s football and basketball players get the money, women’s sports are defunded as are all the minor sports like soccer and water polo.
I’ve always thought of sports that lead to pro jobs more like a degree program, not a job.
Do lab assistants and phd students now get a piece of the the department’s grant money and IP spin-outs?
Are high school sports next? Our star quarterback could sell some t-shirts, I’m sure
Over the last twenty years, I have done comparisons periodically between sports success and growth of a University’s endowment, and it is has always been a very significant correlation. The schools with the fastest growth in endowment fit into one of two groups, either successful in sports (or at least in a BCS conference), or in the ultra-premier academic group, a very select group that includes the ivy leagues, U. Chicago, MIT, Cal Tech, Claremont/Harvey Mudd, etc.
Lab assistants and phd students in the technical fields get their salaries or stipends from research grants. At my school the college had a good system for patenting ideas. Yeah, the department and college got the lion’s share of the profits but a PhD student who had the idea for the patent could do pretty well. Also, the bigger colleges often have a fair number of local businesses started by professors, that’s a lot of local jobs.
Kevin
2 years ago
If this decision makes the operating costs of intercollegiate football and basketball prohibitively expensive, it’s a good thing. If it just brings more benefits to the so-called scholar-athletes, who are coddled, get a free ride to major in BS fields which they often don’t complete while deserving students go into debt, then it makes things worse.
Eddie_T
2 years ago
I liked college sports better back when I thought it was a way for poor kids with athletic ability to get a good education. As someone else already said , that’s ancient history and most student athletes today don’t even graduate. The best athletes go to the pros as soon as they can, and many of the rest couldn’t exit high school if it required a demonstration of reading, writing and arithmetic.
So who’s fooling whom? The NCAA pretends it’s about college when it’s about media money, and the athletes just want lucrative pay, at whatever level that might come.
I’m not a fan of any sport that is that unsportsmanlike. College sports might be exciting to watch, but it’s just another way to sell product on TV. I’m NOT a sports fan, and I couldn’t name a single current sports star, AFAIK. My nephew is a redshirt senior tight end for Alabama, and I’ve never even watched one of his games. I hope it opens some doors for him in the real world, but I hope he doesn’t go pro. Too dangerous.
anoop
2 years ago
this is perhaps the most important issue facing our nation today.
The NCAA is a cartel limiting compensation to enrich its members and redistribute the additional funds according to its political correct preferences. The laughable part about the NCAA is that everyone, but athletes does not have limited compensation. Without athletes, big time university sports would not exist. This case is just the tip of the iceberg. Student athletes should be treated identically to professional athletes. The NCAA and its member organizations fear losing power and money. I stand against monopolistic pricing for all area including college athletics, labor cartels, drug companies exploiting patent laws for indefinite extension of intellectual property, OPEC, renewable energy cartel (coming soon), and others.
Bam_Man
2 years ago
It used to be (long before the days of the $10 million a year pro-athlete, $4-$5 million a year coach) that the 4-year “scholarship” including free room and board given to these “student athletes” was fair enough compensation.
That is obviously not the case now, and has not been for quite a long time. In fact, the “scholarship” today has little or no value at all, since the vast majority of these “student athletes” exhaust their 4 years of eligibility with far fewer credits than required to graduate.
The VAST majority do not turn pro and don’t get a degree either, making your point all the more relevant.
Anon1970
2 years ago
It is nice to see the left and the right agreeing on something.
DHolzer
2 years ago
Definitely long overdue. I think it is a bit like opening the barn door after the horses have left, as the recent moves from the PAC 12 to let student-athletes monetize their image and likeness would have ended up with a race to provide value to the athletes throughout the NCAA. But still good to see this decision.
TexasTim65
2 years ago
I agree with both Mish and this ruling. It’s been LONG over due. The whole thing never made sense once schools starting getting big money in the 80’s for broadcast rights for football and basketball.
What I’d also like to see colleges do is open up and allow boosters to pay kids to attend the school as opposed to the universities paying kids directly. It’s private money (boosters) so it costs the schools nothing (ie doesn’t take away from education expenses for anyone since school isn’t paying it). That way some rich guy could sponsor the team QB to the tune of 100K a year type thing.
Kids should also be free to market their own images for cash (but couldn’t brand using school colors obviously since they don’t own that) also known as the Ed OBannon ruling.
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Definitely long overdue. I think it is a bit like opening the barn door after the horses have left, as the recent moves from the PAC 12 to let student-athletes monetize their image and likeness would have ended up with a race to provide value to the athletes throughout the NCAA. But still good to see this decision.