“Investors Pushing Mining Giants to Quit Coal is Backfiring”
Investors should quit using electricity. Then there will be no need for coal, to produce electricity.
KidHorn
2 years ago
if you eliminate environmental penalties, coal is the cheapest reliable source of energy. So, of course 3rd world countries migrate to it. And the OECD deciding to phase out coal drives down the price of coal.
The global warming alarmist think the only way to fight warming is via CO2 reductions. They need to start looking at other mechanisms. And not by adding anything to the atmosphere. It needs to be done at ground level so it can easily be reversed if needed.
prumbly
2 years ago
Failure of COP26 was the best possible result we could have. What a joke. The delusions of grandeur of John Kerry and his cretinous retinue, thinking they are “Saving the planet”. The reality is that the Earth’s climate is completely ho-hum, and in fact considerably cooler and with lower atmospheric CO2 than average. Mother Nature must be scratching her pretty little head at this utter nonsense.
vboring
2 years ago
There are two proven ways to decarbonize a power system:
1) get lucky and have hydropower
2) nuclear
Gas can cut ghg emissions by about half vs coal at reasonable cost if you are lucky enough to have local gas supply. If not, you’re choosing to make your entire economy dependant on another nation.
Renewables are an interesting experiment. To be part of a path to zero, we need an as-yet uninvented storage system that can store about a month of supply. And/or a transcontinental transmission system which doesn’t have a ghost of a chance of being permitted in the US, or Europe, or anywhere else with rich people.
If it were my dollars, I’d go with nuclear. A handful of countries have proven that making nuclear energy expensive is a choice. They chose to do better. So can we.
Maximus_Minimus
2 years ago
Coal consuption can be separated into two categories: energy and chemistry.
The chemistry part: coal as coke is used in production of steel, and also solar panels. China produces over half the world production of both, and exports to US, and EU.
The energy use is self-explanatory, and can and is being replaced by natural gas, a somewhat cleaner alternative.
Off topic: Actor John Nettles about the campaign to save idyllic rural counryside from large solar panel farms:
They probably care about it about the same as any other country. The difference is that China has long term leadership that does what they say they are going to do.
Short term elected national leaders aren’t around long enough to be held accountable, so they can say anything they want.
“China” doesn’t care. Just like “America” don’t. Nor “Europe.” Nor “The Global Community.”
Individuals care. Including individual Chinese. Many of whom are cold and poor.
The individuals preening around childish “summits” while pretending to be some sort of useful beings, may well care. Or at least pretend to. But they’re not cold and poor. So, they “care” enough about whatever they believe will get them the most likes on Swedish children’s social media, to deem and find ad hold that those who are cold and poor, needs to stop doing something about it.
“Can anyone explain why China doesn’t care about global warming? Do they think it’s a farce or do they just not care about the repercussions?”
Perhaps the 2 links can help explain Chinas current energy crisis. They are having issues with energy supplying their economy as is. Can you imagine if the same scenario were to hit the US with millions of homes and businesses hit by power cuts? Going green is going to be a difficult and costly endeavor for them and as well as North America. How is the American transition to green going to play out? Biden is encouraging OPEC to increase oil production while ironically inhibiting American and Canadian oil production?
“Beijing has reportedly ordered China’s coal mines to boost output as an energy shortage across the country has seen millions of homes and businesses hit by power cuts in recent weeks.”
Also as to Indias predicament, any transition is going to be a difficult problem.
‘The question of how India can achieve a balance between meeting demand for electricity from its almost 1.4bn people and the desire to cut its reliance on heavily polluting coal burning power plants has been a major challenge for the government in recent years.
The vast scale of the problem makes a short-term solution unlikely, according to Dr Nandi.’
Apart from making billions on the back of the very problems, the climate-vaccine tyrants haven t got a clue ! The biggest problem on earth, OVERPOPULATION, is never addressed not even mentioned…..but… wait a minute, maybe they ARE working on it, according to certain conspiracy theories anyway….which I d never read of course ;
I don’t see how overpopulation can even be an issue when the entire world population can fit into an area the size of Texas with about the same population density as Manhattan.
Do you really think that there is an equal amount of untapped resouces spread uniformly across the globe?
Did you know that Manhattan is a resource sink of massive proportion-dependent upon a vast swath of geography and resources from elsewhere to allow it to survive?
It’s not population density that’s the problem. It’s the resources needed to sustain the populations.
It’s been estimated that we’d need about 4 earths worth of resources for the entire world to live the same lifestyle as Americans. Somethings gotta given in the next few decades as either the Western lifestyle is going to plummet or the rest of the world is going to fall far short (and have to accept it) of the American lifestyle.
World population growth has slowed considerably over the past few decades. Much of the world has shrinking populations. The only place with much growth is black Africa. And as their standard of living goes up, their population growth will slow too.
“I also explain why our current energy situation is starting to look more
and more like an energy shortage situation that could lead to economic
collapse.”
While the climate change story has become the flavour of the day, I expect going forward that to slowly diminish. I believe the real issue ironically to overtake the climate change story is a shortage of fossil fuels as stated by the same author from the link you posted.
Im in and always have been in the peak oil crowd. I dodnt know if there is really anything in the climate change story but I have always believed that their would have to be a transition away from fossil fuels due to their declining production. And with declining production, that will have an effect on economies one way or the other.
“I could continue speculating on the changes ahead. The basic problem, as I see it, is that we have reached limits on oil, coal and natural gas extraction, pretty much simultaneously.”
‘The question of how India can achieve a balance between meeting demand for electricity from its almost 1.4bn people and the desire to cut its reliance on heavily polluting coal burning power plants has been a major challenge for the government in recent years.
The vast scale of the problem makes a short-term solution unlikely, according to Dr Nandi.’
and more like an energy shortage situation that could lead to economic
collapse.”