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The Technical and Fundamental Case for Buying 10-Year Treasuries Now

US Treasury Yields from New York Fed, chart by Mish

Chart Comments 

At first, second, and possibly even third glance that chart is a total disaster for long-dated treasury buyers. 

At the long end of the curve, bond buyers gain as yields declines. Those buying 3-month or even some mid-term bonds cheer the rise in yields, but those holding 10-year or 30-year bonds have been hammered. 

Technical Case

$TNX is the 10-year Treasury.

  • $TNX is printing just about every available upside exhaustion count on daily & weekly timeframes. Monthly has still a bit to go, but it’s about to hit TDST Level Up (3.041).
  • Even if rates are at the beginning of 40yr upside cycle, I doubt this move won’t retrace some.

Fil Zucchi is a straight shooter, not a permabear or permabull on anything. TDST is a DeMark technical analysis term.

In general, DeMark looks for trend exhaustions. Fil notes exhaustion counts on daily and weekly terms.  

Misunderstanding Technical Analysis 

Although there are implied targets on some TA patterns, they should not be considered predictions. Nor does TA assign probabilities. 

Rather, the primary purpose of TA is to provide a safe entry where one can set a stop nearby that won’t get whipsawed in normal volatility. 

Moreover, in bull markets, bearish patterns are highly unreliable, often blasting to new highs. The reverse is true in bearish markets, where bullish patterns and counts fail most of the time.

Thus Fil’s caution, “Even if rates are at the beginning of 40yr upside cycle, I doubt this move won’t retrace some.”

What About Inflation?

Please don’t tell me about inflation because literally everyone is discussing it, including me.

There’s not a lot of money to be made on something that’s been on the cover of the Wall Street Journal every day for months (except perhaps betting against it, with obvious risks until the trend changes). 

Light on the Inflation Horizon

With the above admonishment out of the way, there is light on the inflation horizon. 

Used car prices are coming down. 

Year-over-year gas prices have either peaked or soon will. 

Indeed, comps are so difficult, year-over-year prices in many goods either have peaked or soon will. I will take a look at this idea in a subsequent post.

The inventory build with still more coming will pressure  prices for many goods. 

A huge amount of housing supply is under construction. This too merits another post.

Finally, demand destruction, discussed below, is about to hit big time. 

Fundamentally, Where Are We?

To answer that question we need to understand demand and what rate hikes are likely to do to demand.

Tweet Chain Discussion On Demand

Income may rise for those heavily in bonds, However, what about losses?

TLT 20+ Year Bond Fund

TLT chart from stockcharts.com, annotations by Mish

Long dated bond holders are now making 3% on their portfolio. Hooray! But the value of their holdings are down nearly 22% in four months.

Bond Bulls? Why Now?

To understand the case for bonds, we must first understand the stock market picture.

 Let’s start with a real disaster case, then discuss the S&P 500. 

ARKK – ARK Innovation ETF

ARKK chart from stockcharts.com, annotations by Mish

Anyone in that basket of innovative garbage had a nice wealth impact in 2021. The wealth impact has now vanished to say the least. 

S&P 500 Weekly 

$SPX chart from stockcharts.com, annotations by Mish

That entire move, and then some, is the result of insane amounts of Fed stimulus followed by three rounds of fiscal “free money” stimulus from Congress. 

A monthly chart puts things in better perspective.

S&P 500 Monthly Chart 

$SPX chart from stockcharts.com, annotations by Mish

We have had reckless amounts of fiscal stimulus for over a decade. 

The dotted lines represent technical support levels. But recall what I said above about TA patterns. 

The key point here is that “support” fails in bear markets while resistance fails in bull markets. 

Take a look at the ARKK chart to see what I mean. ARK bounced a whopping 39% off monthly support in mid-March. That entire gain has now been wiped out. 

It’s now back at support, with every technical (and I believe fundamental) reason to fail. 

S&P 500 Support Levels and Percent Decline From the Top

  • 3600 – 25%
  • 3200 – 34%
  • 2400 – 50%
  • 2000 – 58%

I am confident 3600 will not hold. But even if it did what would the wealth impact have on demand destruction?

The minimum decline I see from the top, based on valuation, is 50%. With that decline on the S&P 500 the more speculative Nasdaq will be down 70% or so and things like ARKK 90% or so. 

Demand Destruction

A Word of Caution From Lacy Hunt on Inflation, Treasury Yields, Wages

I discussed the problem for the Fed yesterday in A Word of Caution From Lacy Hunt on Inflation, Treasury Yields, Wages

Hobson’s Choice

The Fed has a Hobson’s Choice. What decision will it make?

I do not believe anyone knows, including the Fed. A volatile bond market is the current result.

Making matters extremely difficult for the Fed is the simple fact that much consumer demand is inelastic while hikes are a very blunt instrument.

I expect a hard landing. And slower hikes, even 50 basis points a pop, will have a bigger negative impact on the stock market than getting it all done at once. 

Will Housing Crack?   

Some do not expect housing to crack. I am not one of them but here’s the discussion.

Housing Shortage

Hikes may be faster but if there is a genuine shortage of houses as some believe, then what about rent?

Hikes will undoubtedly kill existing home sales. But in the process, rate hikes will impact construction of all kinds, including multi-family. 

So what will that do to rent prices?

In the Fed’s ridiculous inflation model, rent impacts inflation while home prices do not. 

This is another blunt impact the Fed and market participants have not thought through. Like 2007, the Fed will not see it until there is a recession.

Spotlight on the Previous Housing Bust

Real Interest rates a Mish Calculation

Real interest rates were -4.57% factoring in housing. When the bubble burst the Fed went from being way behind the curve to well in front of the curve to quickly behind the curve again after the Fed slashed rates to zero. 

The Fed Searches For the Neutral Interest Rate, Where the Heck Is It?

I discussed the above chart in detail in The Fed Searches For the Neutral Interest Rate, Where the Heck Is It?

Neutral is Constantly Changing

My message is the same today as it was in 2006. Another deflationary bust is coming.

The Fed will not see it because it clueless not only about where neutral is, but also because the Fed is clueless about the asset bubble boom-bust cycles that it is perpetually blowing.

Given the massive amount of debt and leverage, neutral is likely far lower than most presume.

Meanwhile, the asymmetric policy of the Fed continually adds to the problem. Look again at my previous chart to see what’s happening.

If I am correct, betting on long-durations bonds at these prices will be a winning bet by the end of the year.

Is the 40-Year Bond Bull Market Over? 

I believe the long secular bull market is over. However, that’s a complex discussion that requires analysis of short- mid- and long-term inflationary and deflationary forces. 

That will be the subject and title of an upcoming post. 

For now, the demand destruction from a stock market crash will overpower any inflationary forces. 

With that, let’s return Lacy Hunt’s most recent outlook as discussed yesterday in A Word of Caution From Lacy Hunt on Inflation, Treasury Yields, Wages

At this current level, the long-end treasury market has value considering the impending recessionary conditions which have always reduced inflation and interest rates. However, should the Federal Reserve cease in their efforts to calm inflation before it has been fully restrained, bond investors should be wary,” said Lacy hunt. 

Spotlight on Now

Technically and fundamentally one needs to overlook front page news inflation and instead put a spotlight on the massive demand destruction from the upcoming recession. 

It’s important to understand that asset bubble pops are hugely deflationary.

Looking further ahead, we will then need to see how the Fed reacts or overreacts yet again to promote a recovery from the recession and bubble largely of its own making.

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Jmurr
Jmurr
4 years ago
I believe you and lacy are correct. However, I have already bought EDV and TLT twice this year only to see it go further down.
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
Posting this again as I put it on the wrong story.
I’m still bearish on bonds and I think yields will be higher at the end of the year. Ten year break even rates are around 3% so the ten year still has no real value on a hold to maturity basis and I therefore don’t think long dated yields have overshot to the upside yet.
It’s true that during previous recessions bonds rallied, but that was due to central banks cutting short term rates. Current conditions are different and its likely the Fed will keep hiking throughout the year even if signs of the economy slowing down materialise. The increasing cost of living is going to keep making headlines.
Dean_70
Dean_70
4 years ago
Deflationary shock will eventually be upon us but politically that does not work. Expect politicians to step in to do their best to prevent asset prices from dropping too low with additional massive stimulus to generate more artificial demand. It is much easier to generate inflation and blame Russia going into elections. I just pray more soldiers don’t have to die to keep the lies alive.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Mish, you wrote about the Yen crashing a couple days ago. Today ZeroHedge has an article that says Japan begging for the US to intervene to save it crashing further. Your post was well timed.
FromBrussels
FromBrussels
4 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
FAKE news again, Japan WANTS a weak Yen…Btw ALL it would take for Japan to support the Yen is to increase rates after almost half a century of a 0% rate policy…..Some parties may go on and on for a long time, at one point though the time of the reckoning and final sobering up will arrive ….Say it ain t so !
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
One question: is the current yield/price for a 10-year T-bond a fair price, or are we so used to Fed-determined yields/prices ‘fair’ is no longer an issue? The reason I ask this should be obvious–if yields/prices are systemically unrelated to risk all bets are off.
Scooot
Scooot
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
I don’t think so. It’s a negative real return and the 3 year yields about the same for less risk, particularly as the Fed is no longer supporting the market. The only reason for holding the ten year is for a possible short term capital gain, with is more difficult to achieve in a bear market, with the Fed trying to convince a disbelieving public that they’re serious about fighting inflation.
urtau
urtau
4 years ago
I think the 5yr or even 3yr is the sweet spot from a risk/reward viewpoint. Sure, you’re more leveraged to changes in rates if you go longer, thus you’ll do better if you’re right (on a percentage basis), but also more risk if your timing is wrong. The bond market has already priced in most of what the Fed says it’s going to do out to 2-3 years, but it still doesn’t believe the Fed can keep rates higher longer term.
If the Fed does continue it’s hawkish tightening and inflation remains high over the next year, the 10-year probably has a ways to go up (in yield) as the market gradually starts to believe that this is a longer-term trend. But it would take the Fed going even more hawkish with multiple 0.50% hikes for the 3-yr to move much higher. I think a larger exposure (in $ amount) to the shorter-end gives you similar reward with less risk.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“At first, second, and possibly even third glance that chart is a total disaster for long-dated treasury buyers.”
As a Bond Bull I … Love It!
Nearly no one expects yields to drop.
Expect the Unexpected.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
“Will Housing Crack?”
Like an egg.
At the beginning of vicious cycle. Volume dries up —> price cuts —-> leads to more selling as marginal players underwater —-> even deeper price cuts … we’ll find The Bottom … like last time … painfully.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
It’s typically a slow motion self reinforcing crash.
killben
killben
4 years ago
Is it possible this time around also banks and insurance companies could get into trouble like in 2008 if there is a crash in the stock market – especially when Mish is talking of 50% drop – Grantham had also said 50+ would be just removing froth.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
if banks and insurance companies are in trouble then EVERYONE is in trouble. All that money everyone thinks they have in the bank will just go poof!
killben
killben
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
But I think this time around we are better insured. However, is it likely that this time around insurance companies could be in trouble as they have been chasing yield in the good old recent days of negative and zero rates
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
FDIC only insures 250k of funds and it is well known they dont have enough money to cover all losses. Insurance companies are in the same boat to some extent.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
250k per bank. Just spread savings over multiple banks. Any they would be the first to get bailed out by the FED/Gov’t.
jhrodd
jhrodd
4 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
500k for a joint account.
TCW
TCW
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
Seems like it’d make more sense to print the money now rather than later since that’s what it would take to bail out FDIC.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
4 years ago
Reply to  MPO45
What percentage of people have 250K in an actual bank account (500K joint). My guess is .01% (1/100 of 1% or 1 in 10,000) and even that is probably too high. People who have that kind of liquid cash typically don’t have it there for long (used to buy a home or a yacht or stocks or something else).
It’s a non-event about banks running out of cash these days since hardly anyone has physical cash beyond $100 bucks or so. Anything else is just digital money so it can’t evaporate because they can just put it back.
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
I forgot to mention that FDIC changed the deposit insurance in 2008 from 100k to 250k but they have curiously not raised it again. Right now 250k in 2008 would be worth 310k so that *should* be the new FDIC minimum coverage.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
Banks are flush with cash and they don’t hold garbage mortgages any more. Doubt they get in much trouble. Insurance companies are in a risky business by definition. They always face a potential risk.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
Banks are better capitalized than pre GFC. And no doubt Federal Reserve will open discount window to any entity deemed TBTF to avoid a “Lehman Moment”. Congress may step in if counterparty (AIG) fails. Still a chance Wall Street has a rough time if things go as I expect.
Problems will be shadow banking / derivatives / offshore operations that don’t fall under Federal Reserve umbrella. Time will tell if a “Lehman” occurs … offshore.
Captain Ahab
Captain Ahab
4 years ago
Reply to  killben
Everyone here should take the time to study the Dodd-Frank Act of 2010, with respect to ‘insured deposits.’
Lisa_Hooker
Lisa_Hooker
4 years ago
Reply to  Captain Ahab
Perchance you are thinking of becoming an involuntary shareholder?
MPO45
MPO45
4 years ago
Nice post and I think this is the first time I have seen commitment to an investment window with this statement, “If I am correct, betting on long-durations bonds at these prices will be a winning bet by the end of the year.” I’ve bookmarked the post and will check in toward the end of the year.
In other news, Amex CEO sees no recession and travel spend up 100%+ but of course Amex caters to the high end creditors so there is that…
LawrenceBird
LawrenceBird
4 years ago
Mish what is often lost in talking about bonds and who is hurting and who is not is that many bond buyers hold until maturity. Those bond owners only have opportunity cost to consider but even then, most have a steady stream of new cash or maturing bonds to re-invest.
The people getting hurt most are those who own bond mutual funds/etfs as there is no such thing as ‘hold to maturity’ in those.
KidHorn
KidHorn
4 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Bond funds are always a terrible investment. Particularly if they hold mortgage bonds. When rates go up, the value goes down. When rates go down, people refinance.
Mish
Mish
4 years ago
Reply to  LawrenceBird
Most people are not going to hold 30-year bonds to maturity.
Most of that is in bond ETFs.
Some of it is leveraged by pension plans getting clobbered.
Those holding until maturity are already locked in at low rates so there is only incremental ladder rollover.

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