Please check out proposed new Homeland Security rules for travelers to the US.
Arrival and Departure New Rules
We are in a 60-day period of comments on new Homeland Security Rules for those visiting the the US.
- Voluntary Self-Reported Exit (VSRE) Pilot and I-94 Automation: CBP is implementing a new functionality within the CBP Home mobile application, or any successor mobile application, to allow aliens who are subject to I-94 requirements and who are departing the United States, to voluntarily provide biographic data from their passports or other travel documents, facial images, and geolocation to provide evidence of that departure. [Essentially everyone, explained below]
- Selfie:Photo upload for ESTA website and mobile: CBP intends to update the ESTA application website to require applicants to provide a photograph of their face, or “selfie”, in addition to the photo of the passport biographical page.
- Mandatory Social Media: In order to comply with the January 2025 Executive Order 14161 (Protecting the United States From Foreign Terrorists and Other National Security and Public Safety Threats), CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an ESTA application. The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.
- High Value Data Elements
- a. Telephone numbers used in the last five years;
- b. Email addresses used in the last ten years;
- c. IP addresses and metadata from electronically submitted photos;
- d. Family member names (parents, spouse, siblings, children);
- e. Family number telephone numbers used in the last five years;
- f. Family member dates of birth;
- g. Family member places of birth;
- h. Family member residencies;
- i. Biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris;
- j. Business telephone numbers used in the last five years;
- k. Business email addresses used in the last ten years.
I-94 Requirements (AI Generated)
The I-94 form, or Arrival/Departure Record, is a crucial document for most foreign nationals (aliens) entering the U.S. on temporary visas, serving as proof of legal entry, status (like F-1 student), and authorized length of stay, now usually created electronically by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP). U.S. citizens, permanent residents, and most Canadians visiting short-term are exempt.
Who Needs an I-94 Form
- Non-immigrant visa holders (tourists, students, temporary workers).
- Those adjusting status or extending their stay in the U.S..
Who Doesn’t Need and I-94 Form
- U.S. Citizens.
- Returning Lawful Permanent Residents (Green Card holders).
- Most Canadian citizens visiting or in transit.
ESTA – Official Document
ESTA Who Should Apply?
- You are a citizen or eligible national of a Visa Waiver Program country.
- You are currently not in possession of a visitor’s visa.
- Your travel is for 90 days or less.
- You plan to travel to the United States for business or pleasure.
- You want to apply for a new authorization for one person or a group of applications for two or more persons.
ESTA Payment Method
- Fee for application is $40.00 USD.
- Valid payment methods include MasterCard, VISA, American Express, Discover (JCB or Diners Club only), and PayPal.
Trump’s Unmistakable Message
Trump’s unmistakable message is “Foreigners please stay home.”
This is really sad and economically stupid.
Travel is the largest U.S. services export, with foreign visitors spending billions annually, supporting millions of jobs and balancing trade deficits.
The World Travel and Tourism Council
The World Travel and Tourism Council reports U.S Economy Set to Lose $12.5 Billion in International Traveler Spend This Year.
London, UK, May 13, 2025: The World Travel & Tourism Council (WTTC), the global body representing the Travel & Tourism private sector, today announced its latest Economic Impact Research which found that the U.S. is on track to lose a staggering $12.5BN in international visitor spending this year.
Notably, international visitor spending to the U.S. is projected to fall to just under $169BN this year, down from $181BN in 2024.
This significant shortfall represents a 22.5% decline compared to the previous peak.
The loss won’t be felt by Travel & Tourism alone, with WTTC saying it represents a direct blow to the U.S. economy overall, impacting communities, jobs, and businesses from coast to coast.
According to the study, the U.S, the largest Travel & Tourism sector in the world, is the only country among 184 economies analysed by WTTC and Oxford Economics, forecast to see international visitor spending decline in 2025.
A Global Leader in Reverse
Julia Simpson, WTTC President & CEO, said: “This is a wake-up call for the U.S. government. The world’s biggest Travel & Tourism economy is heading in the wrong direction, not because of a lack of demand, but because of a failure to act. While other nations are rolling out the welcome mat, the U.S. government is putting up the ‘closed’ sign.”
Simpson continues, “Without urgent action to restore international traveler confidence, it could take several years for the U.S. just to return to pre-pandemic levels of international visitor spend, not even the peak from 10 years ago.
According to the U.S. Department of Commerce, new international arrivals data for March 2025 reveal a sharp and widespread drop in inbound travel from many of the country’s key source markets:
- UK arrivals, one of the U.S.’s most important source markets, down nearly 15% year over year
- Germany, another significant source market, plunged more than 28%
- South Korea – down almost 15%
- Other key markets, such as Spain, Colombia, Ireland, Ecuador, and the Dominican Republic, saw double-digit drops between 24% and 33%
As widely expected, the Canadian market is drying up, with early summer bookings down over 20% compared to last year. This is more than a dip. It’s a wake-up call.
The World Travel report was in May, before these new idiotic requirements.
International visitors have spent more than $253.9 billion on U.S. travel and tourism-related goods and services year to date (January through December 2024), an increase of more than 12 percent when compared 2023.
America the Avoidable: Why Trump’s Policies Could Cost US Tourism Billions
In June of 2025, Bloomberg commented America the Avoidable: Why Trump’s Policies Could Cost US Tourism Billions
- The US is experiencing a decline in international tourism, forecasted to cost the economy $12.5 billion this year, due to President Trump’s “America first” policies, tariff wars, travel bans, and detentions at the border.
- Many countries, including Canada, are issuing travel advisories warning their citizens of potential risks when traveling to the US, and tourists are instead opting for destinations like Japan, China, and Singapore, which are rolling out the welcome mat to foreign visitors.
- The decline in tourism is affecting various sectors, including hospitality, aviation, and restaurants, with cities like Los Angeles, Riverside, and Tampa expected to see significant drops in tourist spending, while New York City is one of the few cities expected to still see a gain this year.
Foreign visitors to the US have been on the rise since the pandemic, with analysts previously expecting 2025 to be a bumper year for tourism. That is, until President Trump’s second term began. This drop in tourism is forecasted to cost the American economy $12.5 billion this year.
I will take a stab that the 2026 hit will be at least triple. Who wants to put up with such nonsense?
Look at that high value data list again. If you were headed to Germany, Australia, or Ireland and had to respond to that, would you go?
I suspect this will get watered down a bit in the next 60 day. If not, we are going to have a collapse in foreign tourism.
National Park Fees
The above requirements are on top of new national park fees for foreign travelers.
Starting January 1, 2026, international visitors face significantly higher U.S. National Park fees, paying a $100 per-person surcharge at 11 popular parks (like Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, Yosemite) plus the standard $35 entry, or $250 for the “America the Beautiful” annual pass (vs. $80 for U.S. residents), with free entry days now reserved for citizens/residents only. This “America-first” fee structure aims to boost park revenue, requiring foreigners to pay more to support maintenance, with fees applying to non-U.S. residents.
Top U.S. Ally Warns Of Bigger Travel Boycotts Thanks To National Parks’ Latest Controversy
Please note Top U.S. Ally Warns Of Bigger Travel Boycotts Thanks To National Parks’ Latest Controversy
On November 25, the U.S. Department of the Interior published a press release announcing higher fees for international visitors seeking to explore some national parks.
Two main changes have been introduced: an additional $100 fee per visitor for the 11 most popular U.S. national parks, and a surcharge that raises the America the Beautiful annual pass from $80 to $250. The changes will be officially implemented on January 1, 2026, but they have already sparked backlash.
Visit USA, an association that brings together U.S. travel sector experts to provide U.K. travelers with accurate information, has recently launched a petition opposing the new U.S. national park surcharges for international visitors.
According to official data by the U.S. National Travel and Tourism Office, the U.K. was the third-largest source of U.S. inbound tourism in 2023, with 3.90 million visitors.
Considering that international visitors spent over $253.9 billion on travel and tourism-related goods and services from January to December 2024, a possible U.K. travel boycott may have drastic consequences for the U.S. travel industry.
According to NPS data, in 2024, visitors spent $29 billion in communities near national parks, generating $18.8 billion in labor income and $56.3 billion in economic output for the U.S. economy.
Data published on October 1 by the U.S. Travel Association found that the U.S. may experience a 3.2% decline in inbound travel spending, totaling $173 billion.
The surcharge for international visitors is expected to generate millions of dollars in extra revenues for the NPS. A report by the Property and Environment Research Center claims that a $100-per-person surcharge for international visitors could raise $55.2 million annually.
At the moment, it remains unclear whether U.K. tourists will decide to join the Canadian boycott and avoid traveling to the U.S. entirely or only skip visits to national parks. Yet, the increased fees are likely to affect international visitors’ plans.
The park service may increase revenue. Assume it’s $55 million. But the cost of these new rules and fees will be tens of billions of dollars lost elsewhere.
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For the full year, we are on a path to no change for all these efforts.
Meanwhile, we are destroying jobs and taxing US consumers along the way.
In case you missed it, please see President Trump Promised a Manufacturing Boom. Where Is It?
The answer is China.
On the home front, Powell Blames Tariffs for Inflation, Says Job Growth Is Negative
Also on the home front, I commented Health Care Inflation Bomb Makes the Fed’s 2 Percent Target Almost Impossible
Let’s discuss 2026 health care premiums and what they mean to the Fed’s preferred measure of inflation.
But all this is OK because affordability is a hoax and the US is booming.
Just crossed the US border in Chicago’s O’Hare where US citizens had to wait in line to be questioned about memes in their social media postings. Why should any foreigners want to put up with that kind of stuff??? Is the US in a race to become North Korea?
US citizens or foreigners?
Those 2 were actually US citizens.I meant if the US is treating its own citizens like that, why would anyone else want to visit it?
My point here was that if only the foreigners are expected to provide this information then does this mean that the US already has all this information about its own citizens?
That’s why I can no longer be bothered to visit the US, had some great trips back in the day. Going elsewhere in the future.
Once regular vacationers to the US find other destinations they’ll be a lot less likely to come back to the US, even after Trump is gone.
That’s why most business try not to lose their customers in the 1st place. Once they’re gone, they’re usually gone for good.
The US should withdraw from hosting world cup 2026 and leave it to Canada and Mexico. The US is not a big football nation anyway, and putting these onerous requirements on visitors is just nonsense. One wonders why Trump bid to host the world cup in the first place when he holds such animus towards foreigners visiting the US.
Peace prizes take effort to secure.
https://www.newsweek.com/fifa-bribery-charges-dropped-trump-given-peace-prize-scrutiny-11193540
How cool, the investigators were bribed?
Was chatting with three Australian women in France this fall and they were pretty proud of the fact that they had been booked to tour America and changed their trip to Europe because of Trump.
Elections have consequenses!
Hey Frosty, I will agree with You, but you must also agree with Me…
This Election & The last Election have had consequences …
Idiotic. And absusrd policy.
I’ve been a visiting tourist to the US at least half a dozen times in fifteen years. So on average once every three years. I’ve generally stayed 3-5weeks, though my first visit was 5 months long.
From an economic point of view this is a big benefit for the US. I’m not working in the US yet I’m spending money.
Despite the toxic politics I still find most places that I’ve vistited very friendly and welcoming. I’ve enjoyed the openess and freedom of the US and the easy access to beutiful nature.
Most visitors to the US or to ANY country for that matter are visitors. They have no desire to stay even if they had the opportunity. They have friends, family, work and often a better life for them back home where they are from.
Most countries have more stringent requirements for people visiting from countries where overstaying of visas is more likely. That is understandable. But imposing these ridiculous policies on tourists is just going to destroy foreing tourism.
The US parrots on about ‘freedom’ and then produces this POS. All you needed to travel in living memory was a passport and, perhaps, a visa. Now 5 years history of social media? A selfie and a copy of your passport photograph? More BS from the demented dictator Trump.
America is not so great to visit that people will go through all this nonsense to visit the place for a vacation or to see the World Cup (although football fans are not known for their intelligence). I will never go again if I have to deal with all this shit.
linked is a good article on the specifics of tourism in America, it is not pretty:
We Are Facing A “Tourism Industry Apocalypse” As International Travelers Avoid The USA – Citizen Watch Report
Was just reading something on a substack about Bill Gates and the WHO pushing universal digital ID, with vaccination record, among other things. What does “you will own nothing,” mean? What does a 15 minute city, mean? What do CBDCs, mean? The global elites want total control. In the future will people have attained the carbon credits needed for permission to take a foreign vacation?
It won’t be long before everyone is implanted with a computer chip upon birth (or maybe while still in the womb). This chip will contain all your personal details, a national ID, ties to you bank/credit accounts and anything else the government wants to mandate to be put on it.
It will make life easier for everyone. You will have to use this chip to make purchases and will not be able to buy anything w/o using the chip.
I guess you and those of your ilk will have to go live in the forest somewhere! [lol].
I guess the wet dream of our beloved elites is to go one step further: attach hardware to you that also monitors what you see and hear, and even gives you an electric shock if you say something that could be perceived as racist/misogynist/antisemitic/unamerican.
Imagine if it gives you a shock if you try to eat too much junk food!
Love the concept! McDonalds will freak!
You mean a cellphone?
We already carry one of those. And a drone can find it and snuff you in a heartbeat…
3 years and 1 month to go!
I will visit the USA next year to visit family, but would avoid it if that reason didnt exist with these demands. The message is clear, america does not want the tourist of business traveller’s dollar.
I have told most of my friends who live outside the US not to bother visiting me here. I will continue to travel to visit them.
This is just one more reason why I still am not planning to visit the US. The idiocy of TSA is the main reason.
If you want to keep out troublemakers why make it so onerous on normal visitors?
The US already has all our emails and social media posts through the NSA and other agencies so just run that data on all applicants.
And to keep out overstayers make every visitor lodge say $10,000 bond per adult or family unit that will forfeit $100/day starting a week after the visa expires.
As for charging more for foreigners to enter certain national parks that is morally wrong. If you need more money then raise it on every user.
I’ve had various social media accounts that I’ve used sporadically and deleted. I sometimes have email accounts that I use temporarily then get rid of. It would be nigh on impossible for me to remember what I accounts I had (or still have but have forgotten about). What a load of b******s! Add the possibility that I might be detained by ICE goons and any plans I might have had to visit the USA are now on hold…I can think of far more welcoming places to visit
Ha! I have something like 250 ‘disposable’ email addresses, 10-12 Gmail addresses and 1 private domain email address.
As to social media accounts, I don’t know what they are referring to. I don’t use SM unless maybe Substacks and blogs are considered part of that?
From CoPilot:
Social media platforms can be grouped into 7–13 distinct types, depending on how they’re used and what kind of content they support. Here’s a comprehensive breakdown:
📱 Main Types of Social Media
1. Social Networking Platforms• Purpose: Connect and communicate with others
• Examples: Facebook, LinkedIn, X (formerly Twitter)
2. Image Sharing Platforms• Purpose: Share and discover visual content
• Examples: Instagram, Pinterest, Flickr, Imgur
3. Video Sharing Platforms• Purpose: Upload, stream, and engage with video content
• Examples: YouTube, TikTok, Vimeo
4. Microblogging Platforms• Purpose: Share short updates, thoughts, or links
• Examples: X (Twitter), Tumblr, Threads
5. Discussion Forums• Purpose: Engage in topic-based discussions
• Examples: Reddit, Quora, Stack Exchange
6. Blogging & Publishing Platforms• Purpose: Long-form content creation and sharing
• Examples: Medium, WordPress, Substack
7. Live Streaming Platforms• Purpose: Real-time video broadcasting and interaction
• Examples: Twitch, YouTube Live, Facebook Live
8. Messaging & Chat Apps• Purpose: Direct communication, often private or group-based
• Examples: WhatsApp, Messenger, Discord, Telegram
9. Social Commerce Platforms• Purpose: Shopping integrated with social interaction
• Examples: Instagram Shopping, Facebook Marketplace, TikTok Shop
10. Interest-Based Networks• Purpose: Connect users around shared hobbies or passions
• Examples: Goodreads (books), Strava (fitness), Letterboxd (films)
11. Anonymous Social Platforms• Purpose: Share content or ask questions anonymously
• Examples: Whisper, Yik Yak
12. Review & Recommendation Platforms• Purpose: Share opinions and ratings on products or services
• Examples: Yelp, TripAdvisor, Rotten Tomatoes
13. Private Communities & Collaboration Tools• Purpose: Closed-group communication and collaboration
• Examples: Slack, Facebook Groups, Microsoft Teams
Each type serves different user needs—from personal expression and entertainment to professional networking and e-commerce. Some platforms, like Facebook or TikTok, span multiple categories by offering diverse features.
So basically anything that you can share on is an SM platform/service.
What about camming sites?
Thanks for this!
Is it at all clear what “ The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.” actually means.
The message lists High Value Data Elements but nothing about social media.
The inference from Trumpie was this meant a history of all social media posts in the last 5 years. How would anyone actually be able to comply?
Nothing is clear with Trump.
Some may find it enforced others not.
The idea just might be what I said “Stay away”
All I can say is the national parks need a rest from the relentless destruction of all the visitors. They should pay more.
stop going. i used to go to all the parks out west in the 70s. best not to go if one is an environmentalist. leave the animals and plants and fish and nature be. of course human primates will be extinct and shook off the earth like a flea on the ass of an elephant within a few tens of millions of years and the earth will keep on spinning around…………
As a 58 year old Canadian I found this post interesting. I have visited the us 3 times in the past year and appreciate that the USA is my neighbour (Canadian spelling). First time to ski in Colorado easy entry and exit. Second Hawaii again easy having visited Maui several times we got the vibe that some locals would like the visitors to go home given The stress they are under after Lahaina burning down. Third time was slightly different. Crossed into Montana by car. Smooth entry however leaving I was required to revisit border services to exit the USA. This was a first for me and was disconcerting for my wife given the level of interrogation. She is reluctant to visit our American friends that live in Montana now given her border experience. We wonder if that is the idea? So my last trip since was to Japan and next to Italy. Mostly because of my wife’s influence.
Thanks for responding
Best wishes
Mish
Who asked you when you left the USA to revisit US border services???
I drive across all the time in Ontario to NY State and back again the other way (NY State to Ontario) and when I am leaving the US I talk to NO ONE on the US side, I only talk to Canadian customs and immigration. I only talk to US customs and immigration when I am entering the US.
The highway was blocked and all persons exiting the USA had to stop and report to US Customs and undergo a questioning while three agents conducted and thorough vehicle search.
Hawaiians dont like us mainlanders either.
Didn’t we get their land for some plastic beads or trinkets; something like that?
The only flaw in your reasoning is this: IF WE, AS AMERICANS, want to stay here in the EU for more than 90 days on a Tourist Visa, we are required to show them 7 different forms of proof (who we are, where we wills stay, what will we do, and when we will return to the USA – – a ticket home MUST BE IN HAND HERE).
So, Trumps tiny list is a fraction of the bullshit that we deal with here. We are in Portugal for 6 months every year. NO, we are not ever going to be residents of the EU.
THE EU IS FAR FAR WORSE THAN AMERICA when it comes to Bureaucracy.
Poor baby! What percentage of tourism to the US is people staying over 90 days?
The same and worse counts if you travel to the USA for more than 90 days. The discussion here is about that, esta or visum, you now get checked for any social media activity that is not 100% about the Dear Leader. Or other opinions that are unwelcome. And the EU certainly does not do that for american visitors.
It’s economic suicide through deaths by a thousand cuts: tariffs, ICE, anti-tourism, debt, inflation, etc.
Is an exit strategy starting to sound wise yet for you folks? Don’t worry you’ll come around eventually, how slow or fast denotes your level of intelligence and tolerance for misery 😉
nihilists tend to be sado masochists, too. watch century of self documentary and read ominous parallels. will explain how amerikans became such nihilists. trump is the pure form of this. now daddy donald, please spank me harder.
Long time reader from Romania, e even met Mish in person at one event in Chicago many years ago. Will never set foot in USA ever again, I am just horrified to see the degradation of Murica we are witnessing in real time. Keep up the good work Mish!
Don’t worry, Calin. The U.S. is coming to you (giant NATO base). Hopefully your courts will start allowing popular candidates to remain on the ballot.
You mean russian assets? Thanks, but no thanks!
this is ridiculous and will absolutely kill tourism. honestly i don’t see this becoming policy.
I travel a lot globally but would not go to any country that required this, and my only social media is an inactive facebook account i last logged into in like 2012.
the admin will say it’s to try to find dangerous people but we’ve already seen tourists from europenan countries harassed and detained for expressing anti-trump views. People that have expressed criticism of Israel or sympathy for palestinians were denied entry. it’s ridiculous to be keepingout people that disagree with the current admin.
I travelled to Europe earlier this year. I literally double deleted texts from a couple of friends who sent comical anti-trump joke memes and the like. i am a US citizen and I would never have done that for any other admin. my thought was it’s just not worth the risk, the hassle, being jerked around when i got back.
Doesn’t commenting here count as social media?
my thoughts exactly. nsa monitors every email/text/blog post/phones……..even which sites you visit. of course it’s just for your own safety and would never be used against you.
I don’t know – Chicago was full of Chinese tourists this year. If there were fewer Europeans, don’t think anyone noticed.
As for the higher fee for foreign tourists – I’m actually for that. The Trump Admin has cut funding for the Parks, and they’re struggling to maintain. Welcome to Trumpland.
I am taking another poll…
Should Washington, D.C. be renamed Trumpberg or Trumpville.
Inquiring minds want to know.
i’ve said for a decade, i’d like to see him rename washington to Trump City, and the empire as Trumplandia. /sarc. i grew up in nyc and saw his name all over new trump city. i remember about a ten years ago when he was first potus, the crowds of foreign tourists during christmas was heavier in front of trump tower than even rockefellar center and the tree. talk about a headache. the foreigners gawking and photographing trump tower in 2016/2017 made me LOL. trump is amerikan as apple pie. he’s a moron.
Trumplandia would make a great replacement name for the AMERICA: North Trumplandia, South Trumplandia, Gulf of Trumplandia. It has a nice ring. No one will ever forget it.
Trumpville! It sounds kind of Dr. Seuss or Southpark like.
The national parks actually make money. Which goes into the general fund. Pretty bumd to cut funding.
Visited the USA seven times or so while it was welcoming people. Most likely never going to try again – what if at the airport they don’t like something that I said 20 years ago on dailypaul.
Speaking of:
washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/12/13/social-media-visa-trump-speech/?itid=hp_opinions_p001_f013
I don’t know why they exempt Canadians. They’re the biggest risk.
No idea where you get that conclusion. I lived in Canada for a decade. VERY safe culture. VERY kind (and far more in shape) people.
And a Nigerian Prince is safer too I suppose?
Celine Dion
Ann Murray
RUSH ***
Justin Beaver
Need I go on?
Please don’t.
That was a joke.
the amerikan public is getting exactly what they want. never ending wars and a police state. democracy works. always has. hat tip plato and republic. amazing how many idiots cannot grasp this simple truth. the mirror is an ugly place for many. the uniparty for ugliness in amerika is twisted, evil and our true exceptionalism.
Plato did not advocate for democracy in the Republic. His ideal state was an aristocracy ruled by a philosopher king.
Such as himself, probably.
bingo. still worth the read. why democracy is bad when you have idiotes in your city / state. the definition of an idiot is quite interesting. learned it in my philosophy class 2 years ago. why i keep going back to college for the past 47 years.
that is obviously true. didn’t think i had to spell that out for mish readers. but perhaps many are ignorant. funny how a philosphers want themselves as king.
Right, so when the Eu fines X it s bad and when the Us prevent Eu tourists to come it s good.
Both are bad.
Long the hospitality industry.
I spent almost 3 months in Europe last year, but now that they plan to fingerprint all visitors as if they are street criminals freshly arrested for carjacking I likely won’t be going back ever. Its a big world, and there are lots of other places I can go. Its reasonable to assume visitors to the US will draw the same conclusion.
US has been finger-printing people for years.
I am well aware. The point is simply that when you make tourism onerous you lose tourists.
doesn’t japan and some other places use the retina scans ? i’ve travelled the world, too. in russia in the 90s i had to pay cold hard benjamins to board the plane. the clerk just held out her hand until she was satisfied. better than the gulag in siberia.
The founding fathers never expected the kind of guerilla warfare the US is experiencing. They were naive to think every citizen one would at all times be rational and prosecute corruption. They were naive to believe immigrant would leave their foreign allegiances when arriving to US shores. National security has higher priority than the economy. When it comes to immigration policy, I support quality over quantity.
Vetting at US consulates / embassies before arrival increases security. The estimated number of prisoners in the US who are not citizens is 21K. The average cost per year to incarcerate is $60K. That’s $1.2B each year. And that’s not including the loss of life, property damage, intellectual theft. $1.2 is 10% of the estimated spending by foreign tourist. If a bank were looking at those numbers in terms of defaults, they would be horrified. Banks actively monitor their portfolio to limit losses to less than 5%.
Trump’s actions would not seem so dramatic if many smaller actions were taken sooner, by the Biden administration, to address problems when they happened.
Guerrilla Warfare == mean tweets about President PedoPig. Oh the humanity!
Must be rough going through life scared of everyone. Assuming you’ve been repeatedly mugged, beaten, maybe even raped. All I can say is to find another place to live. There are lots of great neighborhoods all around the country where people go through their entire lives and never even see a crime happen.
I upvoted you for the gist of your arguement but I would challenge the prison costs figure. Assuming that 21,000 figure is correct how many of them came in on a visa compared to those who just jumped the border? Tighter visa restrictions won’t stop the border crossers.
Make being in your country illegally not worth it and that alone will cut the numbers of non citizens clogging your prisons drastically (although you will have an extra prison population of illegals doing time for being illegal). And also streamline the deportation process
Yup, it’s all Biden’s fault.
Besides keeping tourists and travelers out it will probably keep Americans out of foreign countries when there is retaliation.
The crime rate of foreign tourists is much lower than that of US citizens. See https://www.google.com/search?q=is+the+crime+rate+of+foreign+tourists+lower+than+for+us+citizens&rlz=1C1RXQR_enUS1102US1114&oq=is+the+crime+rate+of+foreign+tourists+lower+than+for+us+&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgBECEYoAEyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRiPAjIHCAYQIRiPAtIBCjIzODg1ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBbuJPzA1aDWf&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
I would like to see Trump submit all of his social media posts to Homeland Security. He would probably be kept out of the United States because he has contradicted himself thousands of times and is basically a congenital liar.
Honestly, I’m ashamed to show my face in another country at this point.
I usually wear my maple leaf t-shirt I bought in Montreal last year.
Ya gotta forgive trump he’s mentally ill. You should never forgive the stupid American voters for his first or second term. His cabinet should be exiled as soon as trump is removed. Maybe they should be sent to that penguin island that trump put tariffs on.
I love my 45 47 cap.
This is an America last policy. It is about control as it will affect the law-abiding person and the criminal will break the law and bypass it. Look at airport screening after 9-11, we now have an army of TSA agents that have found bugger all while inconveniencing every air traveler at a cost of billions for agency and the airport infrastructure. We can expect similar on a smaller scale if this goes thorough at any scale.
It will be devastating to all forms of domestic travel and tourism as international demand will diminish. It will hurt reshoring business, small business in particular; who will come here to scout out America for business development? It will damage government revenues both local sales taxes and federal indirectly via reduced income taxes, from a non-US source right when we need revenue most.
Following through with this proposal is another increase in the size of government for no real economic benefit, but a serious tangible economic cost for its administration, I cannot think of a better way to stifle the American economy than to chip away at the demand side and watch the supply side contract. This is the perfect proposal to aggravate the deficit problem and shows the Trump administration’s economic ignorance.
It does give comfort to your local Nazi (MAGA cult member).
Why will it affect domestic travel? They are only requiring this at the border, not in domestic flights.
I do not believe I mentioned the domestic traveler, but I believe it will benefit him. Supply of services and opportunity will not likely change too much, yet reduced demand should lead to lower prices.
You said “It will be devastating to all forms of domestic travel”
I’m asking how it will be devastating to domestic travel. I’m saying nothing changes there.
You might be right, but my thought is the potential lesser demand side (number of persons demanding services with fewer foreign tourists) will cut into business volume. Devastating to all forms is probably a bit strong to all apply to all forms.
This articulates what I was thinking:
We Are Facing A “Tourism Industry Apocalypse” As International Travelers Avoid The USA – Citizen Watch Report
How do tourists and visitors get around the states? Admittedly not as big a market as international but it’s there. I used to fly all over the place on business trips. I have no desire to visit the states now although I do make quick trips back and forth the the USPS – but that’s convenience, not pleasure.
Something besides hope that people will all be nice and respectful of other people needs to be done. From the reports I see we may be able to lower taxes by 50% and spending by 75% if the government were not so careless with our money. Lets try running a tight ship and see what happens, we have tried the lackadaisical method of live and let live but we now have more criminals running the system than ever before that allow crime to go unchecked and participate in promoting crime.
fascinating. you would have to make deep cuts to social security, medicare, medicaid, and defense to cut spending 75% since thats the lions share of spending which doesn’t even get to the other big line item which is interest. Personally I would be happy to ax 75%, but politically it is impossible.
Your concerned about spending but are you concerned about all the state spending, NY for example that the federal government will have to pay for for all the free shit to migrants under the biden adm for 4 years?
Lets start there. You want to save money, start with deporting illegals that have broken the law.
The amount of money being spent daily to house feed and clothes them must be a billion annually for the Federal government
Downvote away
Lets start with the Dept of War, bring home all troops stationed overseas and navel units patrolling outside US waters.
Source?
Please check out proposed new Homeland Security rules for travelers to the US.:
– aliens who are subject to I-94 requirements and who are departing the United States, to voluntarily provide biographic data from their passports or other travel documents, facial images, and geolocation to provide evidence of that departure.
> Our Country has been placed in such a situation, thanks to The Harris / Biden Administration. We must do this, as a precaution to what’s been occurring over the Last 4 Years!!!
– to require applicants to provide a photograph of their face, or “selfie”, in addition to the photo of the passport biographical page.
> I’m equally OK with this, for the exact same reason above.
– CBP is adding social media as a mandatory data element for an ESTA application. The data element will require ESTA applicants to provide their social media from the last 5 years.
> I’m equally OK with this, for the exact same reason above.
– Trump’s unmistakable message is “Foreigners please stay home.” This is really sad and economically stupid.
> After watching what’s occurred in America over the Past 4 Years, this is not stupid, but rather absolutely necessary! We are bleeding Taxpayers Money to theft, fake ID’s, Fake Paperwork, No Paperwork, extremely sophisticated methods of hacking, crashing, and manipulating data all over the place. We are in a different time and space and can no longer rely on paperwork, but rather much more formal, harder to manipulate, harder to copy, and much harder to get away with. If it slows immigration to the proper immigration and that’s a much lower volume of people, Then We Are Safer Then Are We Not??
These are no brainer moves we may make as a Country getting our asses handed to us by Non-Citizens and Technology.
“After watching what’s occurred in America over the Past 4 Years.” Where were you watching this? YouTube, Fox News, and Newsmax? The United States stands for certain principles, and we have led by example for the last 80 years. That leadership has literally resulted in an explosion of democracy and freedom around the world. We are criticized at times for our freedom-based principles, such as freedom of speech and the right to bear arms, and these two freedoms have their costs, but we have defended them and argued that the costs are the price we willingly pay. Immigration and our policies that made it very easy for most people around the world to visit, get an education, and work in the U.S. are part of our principles that we stand up for, despite some unintended negative consequences. If we stop being “American” and stop leading by example, we will begin to reverse the proliferation of democracy and freedom around the world. Others will argue that if the bastion of liberty does not believe in its principles of liberal democracy any longer, why should we?
You see, the United States was not founded to achieve greatness based on an ends justify the means approach; we were founded as an idea, an imperfect idea that required each new generation to strive to make our union a MORE PERFECT union that reflects our founding principles of freedom, equality, and being that shining city on the hill that people from anywhere in the world either would want to emulate or would like to make their home.
Asking visitors for five years of social-media history isn’t about finding terrorists — it’s about teaching people what not to say in the future. The chilling effect matters more than enforcement.
If China did this, we’d call it digital authoritarianism. The bar shouldn’t be lower just because it’s the US.
China already does a lot of things such as this… Have you bought Land in China? No, you didn’t, because you can’t! Chinese Citizens (most) can’t either. Do you have LGBTQ Rights in China, and treated fairly, um NO! Can you buy a gun for protection? China has what’s considered the “Strictest In The World” for such a thing! Social Media is aggressively Monitored, and you best not step out of line, or you may have a visitor or two.
You do understand that China is a True Dictatorship and you do as you’re told, or pay a very steep price for Not doing so. This is how Communist Keep there people in check!
“You do understand that China is a True Dictatorship and you do as you’re told, or pay a very steep price for Not doing so.”
The President of The US just threatened Indiana legislators with death for not doing what he told them to do.
That dictatorship you fear is in your own home.
> Not even close! Trump accused a group of Democrats advising troops against following illegal orders of “seditious behavior.” This was in regards to Democrats suggesting that “The Military” strike against the U.S. Military. Can you blame Trump, who is by the way, President and Leader of Our Military? I don’t, and it would be seditious behavior, no?
At least 11 Indiana Republicans were targeted with threats or swatting attacks amid redistricting pressure from TrumpThe threats came after Trump publicly called on state lawmakers to pass new congressional maps that would benefit Republicans.
At least 11 Indiana Republicans were targeted with threats or swatting attacks amid redistricting pressure from Trump
At least 11 Indiana Republicans were targeted with threats or swatting attacks amid redistricting pressure from Trump
– At least 11 Indiana Republicans were targeted with threats or swatting attacks amid redistricting pressure from Trump > We’re they?
At least 11 Indiana Republicans were targeted with threats or swatting attacks amid redistricting pressure from Trump > We’re They?
What’s your point?
crumbling evil empire 101
You’re being stupid silly!
1. Can You Vote Freely?
2. Can you buy a Gun still?
3. Can you say Trumps a Moron?
4. Can you live where you want to and can afford?
5. Can you buy whatever groceries you wish to?
I can List 1,000 More if it takes that many for you to understand that Trump and No President Has Been OR Can Be a Dictator in America. We have an unbelievable amount of checks and balances for such an occurrence.
Vote freely?
Not if the map decides first.
Buy a gun?
Just like Iraq, not like Norway.
Insult Trump?
Today — while it’s still logged. Unless you are a journalist.
Live anywhere?
Increasingly, only if you’re rich.
Buy groceries?
They even buy groceries in N Korea you know.
New Economist democracy index in Feb – expecting US to fall lower than it already is (currently between Malta and Chile).
Vote freely?
Not if the map decides first. > You Still Vote Freely, but to a different set of Politicians.
Buy a gun?
Just like Iraq, not like Norway. > I can go buy a gun today in walking distance. You probably can too I imagine. You might live on a mountain top..
Insult Trump?
Today — while it’s still logged. Unless you are a journalist. > I did yesterday, and the day before too.
Live anywhere?
Increasingly, only if you’re rich. > I Said Affordable.
Buy groceries?
They even buy groceries in N Korea you know. Who cares, We’re talking about America and Our Freedoms!!!
Stu, the downvoters can’t help themselves. They live in their bubble protected from all the shit we commoners have to deal with , both economically and physically on a daily basis from the chaos their economic and border policies have caused.
They think they are above the fray and hyperventilate like a high school cheerleader that got asked out by the team captain on the varsity football team
Remember they over the top hysterics about Trump upgrading the white house?
Downvote away, its a badge of honor around here with what all the over the top Trump articles and comments are becoming.
Thanks David, it’s a tough crowd, but mostly because they are misled and don’t research, but react instead. Many agree once they understand the BS!
That you would call the gold trim and that fucking monstrosity of a proposed ballroom an upgrade shows exactly where your parents went wrong.
Yes, you are right about China, but the current administration is not widening the contrast between the United States and totalitarian states like China, or, for that matter, protectionist nations around the world; this administration is narrowing that gap.
– Where were you watching this? YouTube, Fox News, and Newsmax? > CNN, MSNBC, THE VIEW Etc. Same place everyone watched it, except You perhaps it appears?
– The United States stands for certain principles, and we have led by example for the last 80 years. > Is that the same “Principle” used to Allow Tens of Millions of Illegal Aliens arrive on our shores over the past 4 Years?
– That leadership has literally resulted in an explosion of democracy and freedom around the world. > I can see that Explosion, watching the World Burn On Fire!!!
We are criticized at times for our freedom of speech. No you’re Not! Now That IS A Principle!!!
– If we stop being “American” and stop leading by example, we will begin to reverse the proliferation of democracy and freedom around the world. > Don’t stop being Americans, but Please Stop Being Stupid Americans working against Ourselves is all…
As an American Citizen, not breaking any Laws, You Are As FREE As Ever!!! Everyone else is a on a person by person basis of vetting, and understanding if your a good fit for America, American Principles, American Values, and should have Freedom!!! That’s being very, very Intelligent IMO!!!
Everyone watched what exactly? Are you talking about the people crossing the southern border who, for the most part, are seeking a better life for themselves and their children, or the American citizens smuggling drugs across at our ports of entry in exchange for money? Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see those people seeking a better life lined up and being swiftly processed through an official port of entry, but that is not how the process works. Fix the immigration system to make the legal pathways to coming here more efficient and expeditious. We need significant immigration, and we are fortunate as a country that people want to live and work here.
Sorry, all that was not for you. We are “Tightening The Gap” is all…
“ the current administration is not widening the contrast between the United States and totalitarian states like China”
Yes just like the last administration, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that, and the one before that.
… and what if you don’t have any social media accounts?
They will demand your phone on entry and send you home if you have any.
Need a throw away phone but that may be suspicious in and of itself.
All you have to do is log out of your social media accounts or temporarily uninstall them. Everything is on the cloud anyway so you will get it all back the second you reinstall.
Besides, all this is coming soon for US citizens too. Maybe not this year but I imagine by the end of the decade (its already in the UK).
but isnt the risk that they scour them every so often and then confront you on arrival with “we see you had a facebook account last month, why haven’t you disclosed that to us … back on the plane”
Its about increasing surveillance.
It will come for citizens too if it’s not already being done by the NSA now.
Yup buddy you nailed it. I won’t bother returning to the US if this becomes policy, the US already cost itself my FLA vacation this year. As for paying a $100 supplement to visit the NP’s, Trumps government can go **** itself. I will find somewhere else to vacation where I’m welcome, like CANADA.