Hello world, send help!
Trump Begs for Military Assistance
Truth Social: Many Countries, especially those who are affected by Iran’s attempted closure of the Hormuz Strait, will be sending War Ships, in conjunction with the United States of America, to keep the Strait open and safe. We have already destroyed 100% of Iran’s Military capability, but it’s easy for them to send a drone or two, drop a mine, or deliver a close range missile somewhere along, or in, this Waterway, no matter how badly defeated they are. Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint, will send Ships to the area so that the Hormuz Strait will no longer be a threat by a Nation that has been totally decapitated. In the meantime, the United States will be bombing the hell out of the shoreline, and continually shooting Iranian Boats and Ships out of the water. One way or the other, we will soon get the Hormuz Strait OPEN, SAFE, and FREE! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Do burning ships and refineries suggest that Iran’s military capability has been 100 percent destroyed?
Does begging for help suggest that either?
Help Not Needed
Joke of an Administration
Italy Says No
They should all say no.
Another Iran Response
US Needs Ukraine’s Assistance with Drones
Important Word About Drones
Iran’s Cheap Drones Are Draining America’s Most Expensive Missiles! Each Shahed drone costs as little as $20,000. The Patriot missile fired to destroy it costs over $3 million. Do the math. After three weeks of war, that arithmetic is becoming a serious problem for the United States. Tehran has stumbled onto something more effective than any grand military strategy: exhaustion by attrition. Flood the skies with cheap, expendable drones. Force your enemy to respond with weapons that cost 150 times as much. Repeat until their stockpiles run dry. It is not sophistication. It is not even courage. It is economics.
The Pentagon just asked Ukraine to help kill Iranian Shahed drones in the Gulf. That is not irony. That is the most elegant strategic reversal of this entire war.
One Iranian Shahed drone costs $30,000 to manufacture. One Patriot interceptor missile costs $1.5 million. For every dollar Iran spends building a drone, it costs the UAE $20 to $28 to shoot it down. Iran has tens of thousands of Shaheds. The Gulf states have a finite number of Patriot missiles and a finite production rate to replace them.
Ukraine spent three years solving exactly this problem. When Russia began deploying Iranian Shaheds against Ukrainian cities in September 2022, Ukraine could not afford to burn $1.5 million missiles against $30,000 drones indefinitely. So Ukrainian engineers built something different. Interceptor drones. Small, fast, cheap, designed specifically to kill other drones at a fraction of the cost. The interception ratio is not 1:50. It is closer to 1:1. Drone kills drone. The economics invert. Ukraine went from being the world’s test laboratory for Iranian drone warfare to being the world’s leading expert in defeating it. And now the Pentagon, watching Gulf air defenses burn through interceptor stockpiles against Shahed swarms, has picked up the phone to Kyiv.
Did Trump Thank Ukraine?
Of course not. In fact, Trump removed sanctions on Russian oil.
Here’s another irony of the war. Ukraine has given more assistance to the US in 2026 than the US has given Ukraine.
French News Humiliates Trump
Impeach Hegseth for War Crimes
New Threats Arise – Not Just Iran
Peace Deal Attempt Rejected
By both sides I might add. Why should Iran believe anything Trump says?
Epic Stupidity
If We Stop Reporting Will it Go Away?
Fascist Trump Seeks to Control the Media
5,000 Marine Expeditionary Unit Heads to Iran, Prepare for Boots on the Ground
In case you missed it, please note 5,000 Marine Expeditionary Unit Heads to Iran, Prepare for Boots on the Ground
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth approves a Centcom request for a Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU).
Three-Point Synopsis
The most powerful country in the world now begs the world to help it fight Iran, a country with 47 years of sanctions.
US missiles are good for offense, but not so good at intercepting cheap drones. And cheap drones can keep the Strait of Hormuz closed.
And now Trump appears on the verge of starting a ground war as his only other option.
I hope everyone who wants to stop the endless wars refuses to vote for any candidate that takes any funding from AIPAC
Don’t have the resources to go two weeks, with this, what would happen if had to open a second front, or China and USSR got hostile.
And then it’s boom boom times.
This dipshit is gonna literally get us all killed if he isn’t stopped.
Churchill tried taking the Dardanelles from the Ottoman Turks during WW1. Similar situation as the Straight of Hormuz. 500,000 casualties, something like 46,000 dead Allied troops and 25,000 dead Ottoman Turks .The Ottomans were not using equipment much better than muskets and cannons.Churchill failed. He was relieved of command. Similar situation now with respect to the Straight of Hormuz except the Persians(Iranians) have a low cost, highly technically advanced military. It would be an epic bloodbath and our military commanders know it…
Meanwhile the Houthis are getting ready to block access to to the Red Sea…
What a mess….
If Iran is not stopped now, it will develop their nuclear weapons, then the Strait of Hormuz will be permanently closed unless substantial monies are paid to Iran for safe passage, and there will be nothing anyone can do about it.
They’re definitely going to get nukes now. They’d be fools not to. And the American government is unable to dictate the nature of the Iranian government.
Them, and every smaller country that sees what the US and Israel are doing to them.
It’s gonna be good times for nuclear engineers.
As Nostradamus foretold in the 80s:
I study nuclear science
I love my classes
I got a crazy teacher
He wears dark glasses
Things are goin’ great
And they’re only gettin’ better
I’m doin’ all right
Gettin’ good grades
The future’s so bright
I gotta wear shades
I gotta wear shades
I got a job waitin’
For my graduation
Fifty thou a year
Will buy a lotta beer
Things are goin’ great
And they’re only gettin’ better
I’m doin’ all right
Gettin’ good grades
The future’s so bright
I gotta wear shades
I gotta wear shades
Well I’m heavenly blessed
And worldly wise
I’m a peeping Tom techie
With x-ray eyes
Things are goin’ great
And they’re only gettin’ better
I’m doin’ all right
Gettin’ good grades
The future’s so bright
I gotta wear shades
I gotta wear shades
Too late. Their smart play is to keep the Straight of Hormuz closed and bring the world economy to its knees. US bases have been obliterated, we are distrusted by all the gulf states now because instead of our promised protection we proved ourselves to be completely impotent. And we’ve insulted and ostracized all our allies. Heck of a job, Donnie.
How do you know the bases are obliterated? I haven’t seen anything about that. I’ve heard they broke the radar system.
Well, the good option was for the US/Israel to NOT have started this war. Now that they did , the options available moving forward are all pretty grim.
Option 1 – Assuming that the Iranian leader who had his father, wife, daughter and granddaughter killed right in the start of the war is willing to talk: End the conflict now with some sort of cease fire and accept the status quo. Obviously will save lives and relieve the economic pressure. But you end up with an Iran dramatically more resentful and paranoid of its neighbors and an IRGC even more influential on Iranian politics than before. And now that Khamenei is dead, Iran will for sure pursue a nuclear weapon at all costs. The petrodollar will be dead and so will America’s ability to run huge deficits.
Option 2 – Try to achieve regime change/regime submission so you end up with a tamed and controlled Iran. Who knows how long that will take and how many lives it might cost, assuming that is even possible at all. If the flow of oil is disrupted for long due to a dragged out conflict, expected political crisis and instability worldwide as prices skyrocket and economies shrink.
There is also a risk that if the US try Option 1, Israel could threaten to use nukes in Iran unless the US stays in the fact, similarly to what they did in 1973.
Either way, we ain’t getting lube for this. 🤣
Option 1 – yeah. We just galvanized a nation against us for generations. Unified them behind a common enemy.
Option 2 – if we commit we have to answer to the UN. I know everybody says they are weak but if not collectively then the USA will have to answer China, Europe, Russia, and pretty much every single pseudo Ally we ever had that uses oil from the Middle East. In time, we can expect them to turn against us and start supporting Iran.
Yes, we are the bad guys in this war. No John Wayne storming Iwo Jima in Technicolor here
John Wayne stormed Iwo Jima in black and white. My Dad landed on Iwo in living color.
I know! Let’s borrow that Time Machine that Obama uses to go break things from before he was president.
We’ll go back and warn Trumpstien, and he’ll thank us for the amazing insight that saved the world economy and prevented a war involving all the superpowers.
Yep, he’ll give us a peace medal. Maybe even give us a seat on the Board of Peace for half price… 500 million.
We’ll be heroes!
You have been in the room filled with fear-mongering idiots for too long.
For 50 years they have been in a position to shut down the strait of Hormuz every single day and they never did until now. I wonder what the motivation could have been?
This could be a very good argument for going to a completely green economy. Have you thought about that or are you too busy clinging to your leaders Robes?
Dude definitely can’t respond to this.
Does green include nuclear or is limited purely to unrealistic unicorn farts and rainbows, i.e., solar in Minnesota and intermittent, negative ROI wind turbines? If so, I think so. However, only 2-3%of US oil and gas comes through the Strait of Hormuz. Nonetheless, we are a fake empire, which foolishly spends trillions of dollars on endless wars supposedly for oil but then fails to recoup the “investment” by permitting oil and gas to continue to be a fungible, freely traded market rather than seizing it for our sole use. Hence, even though our exposure is technically only limited to 2-3% we are fully exposed through the fungible market.
One report indicated that Pakistan may have offered Iran a nuke. The Muslim world is not friendly to Israel and turning that country into a charred mess would be popular.
Not just the Muslim world after showing who they really are in Gaza.
I am surprised this has not already happened. I have read that Pakistan will nuke Israel if Israel nukes Iran.
Who would take on Iran and NOT think about oil? I don’t get it…
The fact that you don’t understand the strategy does not mean there isn’t a strategy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HDVbxf9aEAALJo2?format=jpg&name=900×900
I don’t understand – there is apart of my family who absolutely thinks Trump can do no wrong. Today I see the Strait is closed, the price at the pump is 27% higher, diesal is up about $1.50 a gallon; we can’t risk our naval ships in a war we started to protect tankers after telling everyone we beat the heck out of them and need to ask other nations to help; 13 service members have been killed, 13 families who won’t get back their brother, son, father; about 150 personel have been injured, the Jerruselum Press is reporting 5 KC tankers have been damaged on the ground (not counting the two in the collision). They hit the school with a Tomahawk and claim the Iranians fired it themselves. Now I see he wore that hat to a memorial ceremony with a logo and he’s using the picture for fund raising. Yet, some people think this guy walks on water (sorry don’t mean offend anyone). I just don’t understand. If a general did this they would relieve them yet people are saying what is the problem. Like I said, I just don’t get it….
If they admit it, they have to admit they were behind him for years. Can you imagine? It’s been clear the guy was scum and a moron since before his first term. How do you excuse supporting the guy? Either you admit to being a complete sucker and fool, or you admit you share the same absolute lack of moral character as him.
You think rationality trumps ego, it does not.
We will be having this discussion for 30 years.
At this point I believe many people have invested their identity into this role. Losing your identity is a very difficult and often traumatic event in life. This happens when you get divorced, empty nesters, retire, major life changes that redefine who you are.
It’s virtually life threatening.
@David – I get it …. ever have a friend that was part of a cult?
Jesus freaks and gun nutz. Lots of people build up their entire sense of self around things that are completely meaningless, but it is all they are capable of.
Jesus freaks are causing less damage to the US than certain other religions representing only 2% of the US population. How many trillions have the jesus freaks caused us to spend vs. the small hats? That being said, I am opposed to the abrahamic religions – Buddhism is the way. And as for guns, until you have been attacked in the street by a feral animal and the cops did nothing you should not opine. I used to hate guns until I realized as a white polar bear, I need to protect myself.
What other country would be dumb enough to want a piece of this mess?
Zelensky: “Dear Mr. President, you just don’t have the cards. You’re gambling with World War III. With us, you start having cards.”
Back in elementary school, there was a kid who would pick fights with others for no reason, get beaten up, and then try to rally his classmates to gang up on the kid who beat him.
This is pretty much the same, but at a strategic level. Yes, tactically the US forces are vastly superior, but what matters is that on the strategic level they are getting their asses whooped and that is all that matters.
I don’t think there is a bigger admission of defeat than this. Trump started this fight, but now he does not know how to end it.
If he just declares victory and walks away, the Gulf countries are fucked, the petrodollar is fucked and ultimately the US government will no longer be able to run endless deficits. It will be the end of the empire.
He can try to escalate the conflict, but it is politically very difficult as the war grows increasingly unpopular and the continuous closure of the Strait of Hormuz causes more economic losses. The reality is that Iran can take a lot more pain than the US.
This is the result of hubris combined with ignorance. Of a “bro” culture that has contempt for intellectualism and embraces a teenager’s view of what strength and confidence are.
Great comment. Unfortunately ignorance begets hubris.
Nobody voted for this except maybe the israeli firster wing of the republican party. Most of the cultists were opposed to this.
I used to comment on Smoothiex 12 but stopped a few months ago – near the last comment I made was schooling, Larch 445, a long term commenter on Saker, Zero Hedge writer etc,. etc. who disagreed with my contention as thus:
Iran has had decades to prepare for what we told them we were going to do – the “FAKER ISRAEL PROJECT”. Decades. Iran has their own heavy truck industries they can crank out 5 extra missile launcher trucks a day. 1500 a year for 10 years 150,000 launchers. If they can make 5 trucks they make 5 missiles a day too. 150,000 missiles. They can make a tunnel 5 trucks deep each day too or add to existing tunnels. But if they can double the tunnels you can move the missiles around every night, if each tunnel hold 5 trucks that’s 30,000 tunnels you need to bomb except there are two tunnels for each 5 trucks so the US has to bomb 60,000 tunnels. If you can find and bomb 10 tunnels a day with bunker bombs that’s 6000 days or about 20 years.
Larch disagreed then – but he’s in full agreement now. Iran can fire various 50 missiles a day for 3000 days. Sure send some troops mu hahahahah – they will be blown to shit. Go ahead and cut this in half 1500 days of missiles. They get targeting information and use Glonass from Russians. NORKS WILL 100% STEP UP WHEN NEEDED HOUTHI’S TOO
Iran has missile production facilities deep underground cranking them out as I type this. Iran has significant industrial capacity and they are right nice people, those in Iran BTW. The Iranians who moved to LA really do suck.
I stand by my prediction that doesn’t even include drones. They could have 100s of thousands of drones. Russia gave Iran anti jamming radio sets its why they just fly in nearly unimpeded. Oil’s going to $160 triggering the second great worldwide depression. 4th Turning right on time.
Read this book Mish it will blow your mind we are already there:
https://www.amazon.com/Hard-Times-History-Great-Depression/dp/0671462016
A fucking boomer on the CIA’s payroll and my old neighbor Neil Young on Bear Creek Road San Gregorio Ca, wrote a sound track for what’s coming. “Is it better to burn out than to fade away” Neil is or was the largest land owner in Silicon Valley’s San Mateo county ? really look it up? He and Joni Mitchel were both working for the CIA culture jammers in Stanford and the Haight. He and Joni were both sell outs from Canada. He never lived in a Hearse in LA. FAKE Silicon Valley is a CIA Zionist project. ALL OF IT – ALL OF THEM – INQTEL IS THE VC ARM FOR THE CIA AND THE LARGEST LESSOR OF OFFICE SPACE IN PALO ALTO. ITS FAKE – ITS ALL FAKE – THE IRANIANS ARE TRYING TO SET THE WORLD FREE SEND EM YOUR LOVE.
Boomer are going to burn out rather than fade away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwoDEo1JD8
Much love.
Great job Mish keep it up
That made my hair stand on end. Great comment!
Wow only 2 weeks to start losing
Probably the fastest in history, but then again it was also started by one of the biggest idiots in history
What happened to “you break it then you own it”?
It’s now, “you broke it, now it owns you”
Tar baby: An inextricable situation or difficult and pressing problem that often grows worse as one tries to deal with it.
The only question is: how worse will things get?
Only Br’er Rabbit knows.
Exactly. Why did some retard downvote this?
For those who like to brag about American military power, like Trump, they seem to have quickly forgotten:
The Houthis have defeated the US twice in 2 years. Remember when Biden vowed to “Open the Suez Canal!”, and failed. Then Trump had the brainwave “Biden just didn’t try hard enough!”, went in vowing to destroy the Houthis, and 60 days later had to declare victory and leave.
Score: Houthis 2, US 0
Perspective: The Houthis are 1/3 of the poorest country on Earth, Yemen
Conclusion: The Empire is falling
Today: we are talking about Iran now, who have about 500 X the military power the Houthis have…
Operation Epstein Failure will be one of the biggest geo-strategic disasters in history. Historians will puzzle over “How could Trump be so stupid?” Comparisons to Crassus will be made (look it up).
I try to get opinions from as many different viewpoints to base financial strategies around and Profession Jiang always has interesting perspectives on the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkW6Ad1N-Dk
This has nothing to do with trump. Its our system. Congress just voted to leave war powers to president. When the dems had congress and Obama was in office, they also avoided taking away the kings power and Obama the war criminal made george bush jrs bombing campaign look week. Were owned by the lobbyists.
Trump should have known better, but he listens to Bibi – he could have said “No” to Bibib but he didn’t
Then he really didn’t know better. Right?
Let’s not leave out Bibi and the Israeli government along with the Republican sycophants that stroked Trump’s war ego.
A Book….Lessons in the many ways to shoot your Country in the Foot… by D.j. Trump? But no publisher can be found?
This is MAGA voters’ fault. They voted in the most corrupt and incompetent administration in the history of the US because they were scared about trans kids using the wrong bathroom.
Well many are sick of DEI and just want their kids to have access to universities on a level and meritocratic playing field.
If the Democrats would just stop their anti-white racial vitriol and discrimination, the Republicans would lose a lot of votes. But as anyone who lives in CA knows, they cannot and they will not. Even the self-loathing white ones who have been brainwashed. Where is the ADL on this? Oh wait, only jewish whites are worthy of fair treatment. Not those evil christian ones.
I can’t believe Trump actually included China in his list.
China if it chooses to has the best chance of opening the straight. Send in its Navy for presence. Negotiate with Iran for clear passage of its ships and any ships it is escorting. Win for China, win for Iran, win for most of the world.
But… Massive humiliation for the US. As China stepping in with its military power (even if the presence is relatively small) solves the issue. Double win for China.
The best way to open the straight is through diplomacy. Which the US (especially under Trump) and Israel has shown that you cannot trust at all.
I’m not saying this will happen. But it does seem like a golden opportunity for China to step up on the world stage.
(I’m not cheerleading China. Just analysing the situation.)
This administration hasn’t the foggiest idea how to conduct diplomacy
It doesn’t seem like China would have much motivation to get involved. I never trust China data, but officially only about 13% of China’s oil imports come from Iran, and China has huge reserves that they can use for a while. And of course they could just buy more Russian oil. China would probably prefer to let the US continue to deplete its supply of Patriot and other missiles. Aside from the cost of replacement, there is the issue that building a single Patriot missile requires several pounds of rare earth elements. Maybe China exports of rare earths might again be restricted? They probably get more out of just letting the situation deterioriate further for the US.
China has no reason to send ships to the strait because the strait is still open for Iranian oil tankers carrying oil to China. India has also negotiated with Iran for oil to be shipped through the strait.
As Iran has stated, the strait is only closed to US, Israel, and their allies. It is open for others.
If that is true, doesn’t that mean Iran is not dropping mines in the water? I mean, how would China get around them if they are there?
The Iranians know the locations.
OK, thanks, I don’t know anything about mines, just assumed they floated around just under the water.
I understand Iran is letting Chinese tankers through also.
War criminals, the lot of them.
All the people talking about escalation, agreements, negotiation, deals are mistaking trees for forests.
The US deep state judges Iran incompatible with American global hegemony and Greater Israel. It wants to control Hormuz and all energy shipping choke points globally, to be able to strangle China and dictate terms. Any attempt at a peace deal simply means a respite to US and its proxy Israel. The US gets to go to its corner and prepare for the next round of the mission to strangle Iran. Only a US exit from the Middle East and the abolition of the cancerous current state of Israel can ensure Iran’s continued existence.
I don’t think the “deep state” had anything to do with this, or it would have happened under Biden.
This was all Trump.
No. All these plans span decades.
Read “Which path to Persia” 2009 … all the antics are outlined there already, the gaslighting with pretending to negotiate, the pretense of a deal without following through, “leave it to Bibi” — pretending Israel is the protagonist.
US foreign policy is like a tanker, course changes take multiple administrations. Trump or Obama is just the monkey on the deck drawing attention of the media and public away from the course things are on. The President is just the saleman.
This is correct. Voting doesn’t matter or at least it has not since JFK assassination (coup). If it did, they wouldn’t let you do it.
Trump changes so readily he is no longer worth even one listen.
Just wait for the Cliffs’ Notes version(s).
Comparing the dollar value of Iranian drones and American missiles is a fools errand.
This habit of using dollars and GDP as metrics are delusions.
Wars are about real stuff; that is all that matters, not fake metrics.
Do you think Iran will stop building drones if they run out of dollars?
Did all the GDP dollars help Ukraine? Or is it weapons & steel that decides?
People are also mistaking drones & drones. The UA interceptors aim to down tactical, reconnaissance, and FPV drones on the battlefield. The current generation of Gerani drones have jet engines, swarm, and fly too high and too fast for pedestrian Air Defense efforts; one could say they are straddling the tactical/strategic category.
I don’t know how you got 4 downvotes for such a common sense statement. I always chuckle at DC politicians talking about out how they’re helping Ukraine with X number of billions of dollars. Are they going to drop pallets of hundred dollar bills onto Russia artillery guns to destroy them? If we don’t have artillery shells or Patriot missiles, those items can’t be made to magically appears just because Congress passes a bill.
He’s getting downvoted because this war isn’t going to stop them from building drones, just like Russia can’t stop Ukraine from building drones.
And Iran is 3X Ukraine’s size and twice the population, so the US isn’t gonna take it over even with “boots on the ground.”
A negotiated settlement and quick exit is the best way out at this point; Trump will figure it out and TACO in the next couple of weeks.
But that’s exactly what Webej meant, as far as I can tell.
So while we’re tied up in this quagmire in Iran with no clear objective and no benefit to the United States, Israel is freed up to invade Lebanon. Cui Bono?
It’s basically 2 wars at the same time.
After the American Navy and Air Force have done the most dangerous work, I don’t think it is unreasonable for Trump to ask other countries to help with the safer, but still tedious and expensive work of keeping the Strait open and keeping the peace in the Persian Gulf. The other countries haven’t exactly covered themselves in glory by waiting until the war was won before deciding to join it. The position of the Persian Gulf Arab states is understandable: Persia is threatening their water supplies and their ability to sell their oil, and they aren’t big countries that can afford to offend much bigger neighbors unless they have to.
I note that Trump is threatening to “bomb the hell out of the shoreline” along the Strait of Hormuz. That seems to me to be only sensible. If you have vulnerable ships getting attacked in a narrow sea-lane, and you have the ability to drive the enemy off the nearby shoreline, why wouldn’t you? Do you think the Russians wouldn’t threaten to bomb the hell out of Turkey if it were feasible and the Turks were preventing the Russian navy from getting through their strait in an emergency?
I think Trump has won, and shown all you armchair generals up for what you are. Good on him (or is that an Australian expression? I have to keep editing my spelling so that your American machine won’t complain about it.).
Everybody who has been making petty complaints about Trump’s mannerisms and his lack of verbal precision can now go and find something else to whinge about.
How many times has Trump declared victory only to reverse course mere hours later? He’s lying, BSing or his brain is so far gone that he can’t remember what’s going on from one nanosecond to the next.
Why should countries who were against this war be asked to risk anything to bail Trump and the Americans out? He’s betrayed all of our allies in the past 14 months.
The “countries who were against this war” are presumably relying on America to get their oil through the Strait. Trump may have bawled a few people out, but I haven’t noticed him betraying any allies. If you mean Zelensky, the Jewish head of government in the Ukraine, I think Trump has given him far too much rope.
I am on the majority side over the Israeli atrocities in Gaza.
In reply to Mish below, do you remember the old one about everybody having a plan until they are punched in the face? How would you or I know what Trump’s plan is, bearing in mind that he has a hugely expensive military establishment to war-game it for him? What we CAN see is that Trump isn’t stupid. The people who say he is have four fingers pointing back at themselves.
Trump, like Bismarck, knows that you don’t start a war and get your own soldiers killed without a reason that still looks worth it (to sensible people) after the war is over and the casualty lists come in.
In reply to njbr below, I think the Persian planning is probably contaminated by the misconception that God is on their side. As somebody said, “God is on the side of the big battalions (usually).”
interesting
you believe Iran has not considered the possibility that an opponent might bomb the heights of Hormuz to discourage attacks on the Strait
you should know that many countries have planners whose only job is–“if we do this, what might our opponents do?”
I would be entirely surprised if they do not have a plan
They can launch their drones from the other end of the country if need be. Now that they’ve destroyed the THAAD radars, they won’t be detected early.
We’re bringing more radar from South Korea, but they’ll probably blow that up too.
It’s pretty damn clear Trump had no plan.
Oh, he had a plan. Everyone’s got a plan … until they get punched in the face.
because Trump has had such success as a conman, he believes he is the smartest person ever
he has a bad case of hubris (only he has the answers), only occasionally punctured by panic when reality contradicts his delusions
his bankruptcies are a sign of his over-grasping, but his salesmanship lifted him out of the crisis
he’s trying hard to get some other country to take the mess, but they won’t play
maybe he’ll trade Taiwan to China for rescuing him from this
it’s a genuine possibility at this point
“keeping the Strait open”.
It’s not.
Everything else you’ve said doesn’t follow from that point.
Americans are indeed stupid and not able to learn. Telling that war was won is like telling in 2001 that we won in Afghanistan. Only there we might consider we had some temporary success as we took Taliban down, even though for few years only.
Here Trump already dropped regime change. Nothing was won so far, Iran regime is as strong as before and Trump is trying to get out of there.
Only problem war cannot be stopped easily now.
If USA withdraw Iran will keep bombing Israel. So we cannot really leave now and that is why Donnie is begging for help.
Donnie knows he is trapped This guy is such a failure.
“Iran will keep bombing Israel”
Disagree. Iran will stop the attacks when the US and Israel stop the attacks. That was already proven last June. So you are wrong about that.
Israel will keep on attacking Iran and will expect the US to defend it all the way through to its conclusion. The war will end when Israel stops attacking Iran, whenever that is.
That was then. This is now. A ceasefire last year didn’t stop Iran from being attacked now. They’re not going to make that mistake again. Israel’s desalination plants will be destroyed. Maybe even Dimona. I expect Israel to use a nuke – and maybe multiple nukes. Then what? Pakistan nukes Israel? Maybe Iran will have their own nuke(s) ready to go by then (in 2-4 weeks).
This comment is not going to age well
We’ll have to wait and see. I had a snigger on another one of these sites this morning, where I suggested a couple of days ago that Trump occupy Kharg Island. I got the usual explanations that Trump was stupid and so was I. He hasn’t occupied it so far, but he has bombed it.
I just hope that by conquering Persia, Trump doesn’t drive Russia further into the arms of China. Russia should be part of civilization.
China is probably the most civilized country in the world at this point. They’ve been rising, and most other places are sinking.
Russia will rot no matter what happens. It’s in their genes.
Tell that to the Uighurs or the Tibetans. They are rising using falsified metrics and population figures. The population decline is here and coming for them. Only a matter of when the liars are exposed.
“Conquering Persia”? Are you out of your mind? Bombing one small island is long way from conquering Iran. That’ll never happen.
There should be a bullshit flag we can set on comments, searchable by date and topic. I know there’s comedy gold in the old threads, but I don’t want to go hunting for it.
“I don’t think it is unreasonable for Trump to ask other countries to help with the safer, but still tedious and expensive work of keeping the Strait open and keeping the peace in the Persian Gulf. “
The countries he’s been bullying, tariffing, threatening, and demanding land from?
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for those countries to tell Trumpstien to go fuck himself.
What’s in it for them? He will demand to be in charge of their militaries, get a bunch of their soldiers killed, and if by some miracle there is “Peace in the Middle East” after all that, take full credit, all profits, and try to siphon off as much future wealth as possible.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to sanction trade with us, either.
well put. this guy is a bot or an ozzie TWS sufferer. perhaps both.
Meanwhile, Israel is using this time to prepare to invade and take south Lebanon to the Litani River
All in the service of Greater Israel
That’s true. That’s one of the bad parts of this.
Blue wave coming.
TOFU
Wonderful. White christians as the new scapegoats. More open borders when AI and robotics are taking jobs and the only ones left will be blue collar jobs for illegals. Even crazier deficits. Reversion to we are the world fantasy policies where Americans are put last. That being said, currently with this war Americans are being put last too. I am voting Libertarian only and I don’t care if its a wasted vote. No more votes for uniparty, AIPAC-owned retards.
You must elect an honest neighbor to the House.
Do not continue waiting each time for oligarchs to pick nominees for you. That’s how we got here.
Voting for the uniparty is throwing away a vote.
And voting matters.
The best thing to do now is to position for profit on both extreme ends:
Lots of ways to play this for profits galore.
Got Puts?
Iran is loading oil into two tankers at Kharg island today. Probably on their way to China. One day after the US attacked military installations on the island.
And Trump is actually begging China to help keep the strait open. Why would they bother? They are still getting their oil.
India is trying to negotiate with Iran to get some oil as well. Iran might let them get some.
I expect the strait to remain closed for a while and for oil prices to keep rising. High oil prices will cause a global recession and eventual demand destruction. Though demand destruction won’t happen till prices get over $120. Or perhaps as much as $150.
I will keep selling my oil stocks bit by bit over the next few weeks as oil prices rise and stocks keep hitting new highs. Keep building my cash holdings and wait for the global recession and market correction.
Trump has put himself in a lose-lose situation. The exit routes are all gone.
Don’t sell him short… he’s put the WORLD in a lose lose situation.
There are winners and losers in every scenario. If Kharg is destroyed, the price of oil will go up significantly, which will help Russian and American oil companies make lots of money. Ordinary people the world over are most likely screwed in every scenario however.
They’ll build a new, better Epstein island.
Operation Epstein Fury begets Weekend at Epstein Part Deux.
I’m with you. I’ve sold about $100k of $600k oil stocks I own so far, the rest I’ve sold calls 30 days out and made a killing (pun not intended), I hope I get assigned at much higher levels.
As I said before, exits at oil $125, $130, $140, $150 or so. I expect tech stocks to crash at some point after Iran destroys a few data centers they’ve threatened to blow up. I might start picking up tech if it crashes 20% or more. I did buy a small position in IGV with options since it’s already tanked 20% or more.
So much money to be made here, sad that it’s circumstances like this but what else can I do?
India navigated two tankers through the Strait today, after negotiating with Tehran.
Thanks for that info. I knew they were negotiating.
Perhaps a few other countries will try that as well.
However, any country that supports the US or sends help to the US to open the strait will be targeted.
If Israel or Iran keep striking Iran’s infrastructure, Iran will probably attack Saudi oilfields. Then, even if the strait is open, there will be a shortage of oil.
Yep.
Isn’t this typical taco “lack of decision making ability?”
After all, he has consistently earned the moniker of “taco.”
What a clown show.
Trump spends an entire year insulting every country in the world and putting tariffs on them. He launched new tariff actions just this week against many countries.
He threatens to take over Greenland, and Canada. He bombs 8 different countries.
He has already done a very good job of making everyone angry with the US.
Then he attacks Iran, which results in Iran closing the strait and cutting off 20% of world oil and LNG. Which will impact the economies of all the countries in the world, likely sending them into a recession or worse. Making them even angrier at the US.
Now he is begging all those countries that he pissed off to help him clean up his mess.
Every time you think he can’t possibly make things any worse, he does.
The sad part is that even if the rest of the world comes to help Trump keep the strait open, and even if they are successful (unlikely), Iran will simply shift to targeting oil infrastructure and storage in their neighbors. So there will be nothing left to ship.
Before Trump was elected I warned repeatedly he would crash the stock market, it’s something that happens when Republicans are in power going back the past 50+ years. These guys are just totally incompetent. It so easy to make money buy puts when these clowns start running things.
Correct. Every Republican president since 1920 has had a recession start during their term. Their economic record is abysmal.
How’s this for a future>
Jan 2027 the dems in control of the house have impeached trump twice in 2026 both times the Senate still controlled by repubs have refused to convict. S&P $2500, Dow $7000, reported unemployment 25% actual much higher. Bitcoin $0.00. Banks have stopped repo’s of cars and houses as there are no buyers for either. AI is a complete failure with the ROI at a huge negative after several huge data centers in the US and other countries were attacked by local para military groups and individuals.
PS: please stop disrespecting clowns.
I agree, why in the world would anyone come to the aid of a country that is so hubristic and destructive on the world stage. It seems to me that shadenfreude will be the sentiment.
The attitude of the USA is totally ridiculous and over the long terM result in a lower standard of living. Its already happening as anyone who turns off the American media and goes abroad knows
Sad, a great country being destroyed by hubris. It sad to read some of the comments on here that just assume its the USA’s god given right to impose its will on the rest of the world, a mistake as old as humanity. What comes around goes around – assholes will get what they deserve over time, history is very clear on this
It is nice to live and travel abroad where the monies are actually being invested in their own countries instead of an empire of lies. Yes, the standard of living aboard is way higher.
I think the rest of the world should condemn Iran’s closure of the Strait. After all, this is a direct attack on the free flow of commerce and life support for all of us on the planet. The world cannot and will not sit quietly by in acceptance of such contempt. I say this while having just as much contempt for the US/Israel’s horrific acts of war against Iran.
I think the world should condemn Trump for being an idiot.
“Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain
Yes, Iran’s closure of the Strait is a direct consequence of Trump’s unprovoked attack on Iran. Trump is the one most worthy of condemnation.
You are wrong Mish, he does have a plan and it is damned good one. It is all outlined here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HDVbxf9aEAALJo2?format=jpg&name=900×900
LOL
Secret Signal Chat recovered between Benjamin Netanyahu (BN) and Donald Trump (DT):
BN: Mr President, you have such big strong hands. The Iranians are afraid of you. Just take out some of their planes and ships and the regime will fold like a cheap suit.
DT: That didn’t work, what should I do now?
BN: You are the strongest most courageous President ever. The Iranian regime has never been weaker, it is hanging by a thread. Just firebomb a large Girls’ school and announce you are sending in the marines and the regime will fold like a house of cards.
DT: That didn’t work either, what should I do now?
BN: The Iranian leader is disfigured! He hides his ugly face from your powerful beautiful face. Go bomb Kharg island and the regime will fold like a poker player in a high-stakes game with a pair of threes.
DT: But I often go all-in on a pair of threes! OK, I’ll give it a try.
I hope Zelenskyy tells Trump to go pound sand. Any help or technology provided by Ukraine will immediately be shared with the Russians. Trump can not be trusted.
Zelensky seems to be a decent guy. Feels obilgated to return the help we gave.
Remember, there are a lot of people who comment here who have been brainwashed by bloggers and podcasters who have been found to have been taking Russian money under the table.
Wear the downvotes as a badge of honor.
Wait, I thought we won, unconditional surrender and whatnot?
Trump seems confused, but I know he’s a Very Stable Genius so that’s not possible…
Article is pretty much on point, although I’d argue that Ukraine is not the current leader in drone warfare/defense. They had an head start on Russia improvising and developing drone warfare tactics, but Russia caught up quickly (with assistance from Iran) and now surpasses Ukraine and on an industrial scale in production. The latter is an important point. Russia and China have skin in this game, combined have overwhelming capacity to build drones, and Russia certainly can provide operational assistance to Iran in this area as well if they need it.
“First he alienates every major ally, then hits them with tariffs and insults. Was this all supposed to be some kind of ‘3D chess’? And now, after claiming Iran’s military was ‘100% destroyed,’ he’s begging those same allies to help deal with a crisis in the Strait of Hormuz. Add Netanyahu’s mess on top of it, and suddenly everyone else is expected to rush in and fix the fallout. How exactly was any of this ever supposed to work?”
We only lose this war if we decide to stop. Iran cannot defeat us. We can only defeat ourselves. They will have the military capacity of Afghanistan in a week. It is time for the others who were attacked to defend themselves. Egypt lost vast amount of revenue from the closure of the Suez, Turkey, Saud, Bahrain, UAE, Iraq have all been attacked. I would have no problem in Trump calling them cowards. No US troops on the ground. The Arabs need to step up and defeat their enemy by providing troops to take over Bushehr on the Iran coast and bring back crown prince Reza Pahlavi on to Iranian soil. My estimation is with lack of money to pay the IRGC (80%) will flip and the other that can afford to will flee to England – may God save the King.
So we can bankrupt ourselves “not losing”. There is no win for us without a lot of our soldiers dying, and the rest left behind to police 92 million furious people.
We “lost” the moment Trump started the war. There is no winning here.
Damn – You beat me to it – I did not see your reply.
No worries. Can’t see everything.
I mean, are you even thinking about the logic of your argument?
“They will have the military capacity of Afghanistan in a week.” Hmmm, what happened there after 20 years? You can also substitute Vietnam and Iraq there, if you want further analogies.
I love these chicken hawks who love to offer endless US blood and treasury to double down and send bad money after good. And also how they conveniently forget that drumpfs campaign promised no more endless foreign adventures and that if we voted for Kamala she would immediately get us into WWIII.
I don’t care if the president is a D or an R… LBJ, Nixon, W, Obama, Biden all fouled those wars up. But now drumpf is saying ‘hold my beer’ on misguided foreign excursions.
I will agree that drumpf has a keen insight into calling people cowards, from his vast personal first hand experience in the ability.
What happens when a nuke goes off over Tel Aviv or a nuke gets smuggled into New York harbor? This is World War III. The difference between Vietnam and Iraq is 3000 pounds of highly enriched Uranium. War is different with air supremecy and persision weapons; not Vietnam and Iraq. Part of the reason Russia never gave Cuba nukes is they were crazy enough to use them. Trump gets us out of quamires. The best analogy in time is when Hilter took over the Sudenland when Germany has less than 100k solders. The French army could have marched in and stopped WWII. The IRGC had to bring in thugs from their proxies to kill 30,000 Iranians peolple so there was not a revolution. Their currency is worthless, they have little to no water and food and 90 million people that want to live a normal life and not under a religous zealot. Remeber, this is the same leadership that sent 8 to 15 year olds with guns into Iraq machine gun positions during the Iran Iraq war.
The more we keep fucking with people, the more likely that is to happen.
We have made ourselves a threat to every country in the world, given our military and nuclear arsenal to a demented, narcissistic toddler, broken dozens of international commitments, and stiffed anybody that wasn’t in on the massive grift our oligarchy is participating in.
We have directly murdered tens of thousands of people over the past 10 years or so, inflicted privation and economic misery on millions more, and have fuck-all to show for it except the hatred of the people that we did this to.
As Israel has learned, fucking with people makes them want to fuck with you. Rather than stop fucking with the Palestinians, they are trying to solve the problem with genocide.
Are you for eradicating 92 million Iranians? Because it’s either that, stop fucking with them, or wait for that nuke to roll into the harbor, from any of 20 different countries that we can’t police at the same time.
Nicely put
Death to America. They dont care if you like them or not. 92 million Iranians hate the other 1 million. They hate the regime. Did you see them fleeing to Canada?
Don’t you have a blankie or something you can turn to for your anxiety?
if it world War 3, why aren’t you on the front line?
go fight it, they have no fight left according to you anyway.
Yes, chickenhawks indeed. Just like Lyndsey the poof Graham.
You have overdosed on copium.
When did we lose the Vietnam War?
Afghanistan?
Fools never learn.
The correct answer is when we started them.
Idiots would still be in those wars.
God damn you mother fu**ers don’t learn a goddam thing
That’s crazy s**t
REPORTED: Saudi Arabia is – via pipeline – attempting to transfer oil to Port in RED SEA thereby bypassing shipments through HORMUZ
SAUD need RED SEA – but YEMEN and IRAN share the same exact opponents
REPORTED: Yemen is now stepping in – that was reported today – Yemen will support the Iran cause soon
History: YEMEN Control of RED SEA – US has tried to stop this for years
US fill face the same issues in Hormuz
It is practically the same
The US Saudi Arabia COMBINED COALITION bombed YEMEN over 7 years March 2015 – April 2022
7 Years of continuous bombing – All Failed
and that was against YEMEN – IRAN has been preparing for 20 years
BIDEN went back to the Red Sea in 2024 -US disaster he left
TRUMP foolishly thought he was better than Biden Tried in 2025
Disaster – Trump left under agreement YEMEN could keep bombing Israeli shipping
The 2015 – 2022 US SAUD COALITION consisted of the following
US
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates (UAE)
Bahrain
Kuwait
Qatar
Egypt
Jordan
Morocco
Sudan
———————–>>> Effectively Iran and Yemen are the same – brothers in arms – with the same opponents
and possibility is overwhelming strength in Both Red Sea and Hormuz transit
If asking about Hormuz, and the ‘ new coalition ‘ one has to ask – why would it be different this time ?
And one should Know – Trump may be begging CHINA to join
BUT WHY WOULD CHINA JOIN
Trump just took over Venezuela Oil flow going to China
China has No Interest in Trump taking over Iran Oil Flow going to China
IF YOU LOOK AT 2015 – 2026 HISTORY IN THE REGION
Just the last 15 years –
——–>>> This is a disaster waiting to happen <<<<<<<<——
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Oh yes, the Houthis. The other major power in the Middle East that has defeated the U.S. Navy within the past year. But seriously, Trump pretended he defeated them at the time. Does he count that as one of his “victories”?
One false move and the Saudis will see their pipeline get blasted to smithereens by Iran.
Time to invoke the 25th amendment if the administration knows what’s for the greater good. But the Republicans are too weak and spineless along with all the members of the administration.
Eventually there will be an American soldier dragged through the streets of Tehran and broadcast to the world.
Israel owns enough democrats to keep congress from doing anything. Probably will own even more after the blue wave election.
That’s right, the Uniparty always seems to win in the end
Ah.. who exactly is going to invoke it? His hand picked cabinet of boot lickers?
Little Marco is going to trip in his clown shoes, bump his head, and turn like Fetterman did.
It’s TACO time again.
This week’s menu: TOFU TACOS!