ADP reported a slim 37,000 private payroll rise for May.
The ADP® National Employment Report shows private employers added 37,000 jobs in April
“After a strong start to the year, hiring is losing momentum. Pay growth, however, was little changed in May, holding at robust levels for both job-stayers and job-changers.” says Nela Richardson, Chief Economist, ADP
Change by Industry Sector
- Goods-producing: -2,000
. Natural resources/mining -5,000
. Construction +6,000
. Manufacturing -3,000 - Service-providing: 36,000
. Trade/transportation/utilities -4,000
. Information +8,000
. Financial activities +20,000
. Professional/business services -17,000
. Education/health services -13,000
. Leisure/hospitality +38,000
. Other services +4,000
ADP Change in Employment by Employer Size
Businesses with 20-49 employees have shed jobs 9 of the last 15 months.
This is not surprising because businesses of this size are the least able to handle Trump tariffs. Expect conditions to worsen.
ADP vs Nonfarm Payrolls Change Year-Over-Year
ADP vs Nonfarm Payrolls Observations
- Depending on how fat the crayon, jobs have stagnated for somewhere between 12 and 18 months.
- The BLS consistently overstated jobs relative to ADP between May of 2023 and October of 2024.
- Since October of 2024, discrepancies between BLS and ADP have mostly been random.
ADP Total Employment by Employer Size
ADP Change in Small, Medium, Large Employment Year-Over-Year
Key Business Size Observations
- Between February of 2022 and February of 2025, the least important provider of job growth started accounting for a plurality of job gains.
- Large- and medium-sized employment has peaked and is now rolling over while small-business employment has stagnated.
- And as noted earlier, businesses with 20-49 employees are shedding jobs rapidly.
There is no driver for job growth.
Trump Demands Fed Rate Cuts
- June 4, 2025, 8:21 AM: ADP NUMBER OUT!!! “Too Late” Powell must now LOWER THE RATE. He is unbelievable!!! Europe has lowered NINE TIMES!
- May 17, 2025, 11:11 AM: THE CONSENSUS OF ALMOST EVERYBODY IS THAT, “THE FED SHOULD CUT RATES SOONER, RATHER THAN LATER.” Too Late Powell, a man legendary for being Too Late, will probably blow it …
- May 13, 2025, 1:43 PM: FED must lower the RATE, like Europe and China have done. What is wrong with Too Late Powell? Not fair to America, which is ready to blossom? Just let it …
Small Business Growth
Weakness in small businesses started before Trump was elected. However, Trump is hell bent on making matters worse.
Doubling steel al aluminum tariffs is one of the worst things he could do because that impacts small businesses dependent on steel that the US does not even produce.
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Yes, at the expense of every user of steel in the United States including the United Auto Workers union, and of course every buyer of autos or parts in the US.
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Tariff madness continues.
June 4, 2025: Irony of the Year: Automakers Consider Moving Some Parts Production to China
China has a magnet stranglehold that causing some seemingly strange discussions.
Above, I stated “There is no driver for job growth.”
Strike that. There is now a net negative driver for job growth.
Trump should demand taxes be paid in $TRUMP crypto if the Fed refuses to lower interest rates. Move away from the dollar. Powell can do whatever. We won’t have to recognize foreign debts. Jubilee.
Please refresh our memories: since a rate cut will further dampen interest in our bonds and reduce interest in dollar holdings, (further raising costs to US consumers of imports) and also increase price of oil (priced in dollars), exactly how does the US economy “bloom”? (How do we ‘buy american’ when american products are both more expensive right now, and in many cases nonexistant?) Trying desperately to understand 5 dimensional chess, I guess…
I tried to take advantage of Tyump’s steel tariffs by investing in Cleveland Cliffs. Instead of forging a fortune it ironically rusted my net worth.
If the Fed doesn’t cut rates he can blame them, and if they do he’ll claim the credit for pressuring them.
Trump is not proposing a solution. He is simply setting up someone to blame.
Rates are not extremely high by historical standards and there is that small thing called “dual mandate”.
Leisure/hospitality +38,000 this is surprising, I look for big layoffs in this sector by Aug.
Did cutting fed rates ever helped employment? I don’t think so. At least, not “durable” employment (the one that lasts and includes insurance and promotions and products). But I can see Trump tying Rand Paul on the central mast, “you’ll watch this!” and then releasing the Interest Rate Kraken and Government Calypso at the same time. “To the abyss…!” he shouts, while Democrats are crying in envy “why is he stealing our best ideas“…
ISM Manufacturing PMI at 49.9 for May 2025. It has been just above 50 since 2023. A reading of 50 or less means manufacturing is contracting.
Federal deficits put the economy on life support since 2022.
It’s not deficits only. It’s having your costs unknown because a certain person leading the federal government might wake up and triple them. Who is going to invest in an environment like that?
The bond market completely disagrees with trump.
Considering that the tariffs and adding $5 trillion to the deficit are hugely inflationary it is not surprising that rates are not being cut.
Perhaps trump can replace Powell with a lap dog? Fortunately that is not the way things are done.
– Considering that the tariffs and adding $5 trillion to the deficit are hugely inflationary it is not surprising that rates are not being cut.
> Well seeing as though we can’t assume anything from the Tariffs as of yet, because they are hardly in effect or even nearing effect at the moment, and Trump and the Republicans have yet to add anything to the deficit. Not a single Nickel (Pennie’s are gone) yet.
>> We do however, have a legitimate estimate, on how much Joe Biden or His Pen added to the deficit. This number, last I saw, was pegged at $4.8 Trillion!!!
The tariffs have been significant on China for some time. Literally half the normal number of ships coming into port of LA than normal.
Understood… This may be a good thing?
Your data is stale. The current weekly and monthly Port of LA numbers are near-normal, maybe off 10% or up 10%, but definitely not “half”.
I think history shows that both Rs & Ds love spending, the difference is what they want to spend it on.
Agreed, as “Pet Projects” are a piece of the pie. Like it or not, favors are given for exchange of some other needed favor. Life in Politics…
Biden’s German Shepherd dog had the right idea about government parasites.
Rates will have to go up in a very major way to save the US dollar soon.
Yes, two year at 9.5, if wishes were horses even beggars would ride.
Unless annual wage growth falls below 2.5% on average, there is no “unemployment problem”. Period. Jobless claims is not the metric the Fed should use for determining if the “full employment mandate” is satisfied. Inflation is more important until wage growth flashes red.
The bond market won’t allow the Fed Reserve to lower rates. If anything, the Fed needs to catch up to the bond market. Yields on bonds are higher now than when the Fed last lowered them months ago.
Libertarians aren’t happy: “The conservative movement is now, as an intellectual movement, consistently anti-Trump on most issues
A Fiery Brief Fueled by Conservatives Helped Put Trump’s Tariffs in Peril – The New York Times (archive.ph)
First rule of most sports is “keep your eye on the ball”. The ball is employment and ADP isn’t the most-watched report. Nonfarm Payrolls on Friday is what matters next.
It’s pretty well understood that what the president “wants” in terms of interest rates is irrelevant b/c it ain’t up to him (or eventually her).
Shame on Mish for taking a post that should be about ADP payrolls, and nonfarm payroll expectations for Friday, and making it about something else.
And shame on MPO45v2 and others for following Mish’s bait and taking their eye off the ball.
Since TACO took office the average 401k is DOWN 3% and falling. Of course, smart people are well hedged with put options and ready to profit from TACO town.
But how are you going to spin it on Friday if the report is horrible?
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/04/average-401k-balances-fall-due-to-market-volatility-fidelity-says.html
The average 401(k) balance fell 3% in the first quarter of 2025 to $127,100, according to a new report by Fidelity Investments, the nation’s largest provider of 401(k) plans.
Yup, them high-income folks sure do goose the mean upwards.
Shame on you for shaming the owner of this site.
Trump’s tweet about interest rates and ADP numbers made headlines. Trump put himself into the conversation about ADP.
Try shaming Karl Denninger over at Market Ticker and see what that gets you.
I will cut Wisdom Seeker (who obviously seeks no wisdom) slack one more time.
After the benefit of an overdue good night’s sleep, I apologize for being overly critical.
But I do think that politicians are illusionists by trade, and Trump’s daily chatter is mainly a distraction. Actions are much more important.
Time spent on the distractions means less time understanding what’s actually happening. Clearly they want people to waste time on the distractions, but we’d be better off discussing & debating the actions that matter.
We need to get past Rule by Executive Order (from either side) and get back to hammering out rational compromises.
Hell I posted a comment Karl didn’t like (very mild comment about 2nd amendment) and got banned for life… lol
I was on Denninger’s site until 2008 or so. I was a pretty solid contributor actually, shared a lot of valuable information, and learned a lot from the other commenters too.
But at one point he started blaming the Chinese for following policies he didn’t like, even though they were clearly just pursuing their own national self-interest. (Times were different then, it wasn’t like what they’re up to now.)
So I pointed out that China was simply following their self-interest, and he started trying to claim I was Chinese and saying his family’s been in the U.S. since the 1800s or 1700s or whatever. Well, I ain’t Chinese and my roots here go back farther than his. So I pointed that out, noted that it was clear he didn’t have an actual argument, and couldn’t accept that he might be in error about anything. So I told him off and walked away permanently.
I don’t always agree with Mish, or many of the commenters here, but I appreciate the value of freedom of speech here!
A female president would be unconstitutional. Article 2, section 1: “the executive power shall be vested in a president…HE shall hold HIS office …”
I don’t make the rules.
Rules were made to be broken, and don’t tell me that nearly ANY Woman on Earth, wouldn’t have made a better, oh wait a minute, I forgot who was pulling the strings… My bad.
Y’all for the most part sound like Bernie Sanders acolytes. Oh, Orange Man Bad touched my junk! Get a grip. Or be a moron. Now, in all fairness, moron does not mean retard or idiot. It literally means “dullard”. That’s where the word “oxymoron” comes from. Oxy mean “sharp”, so an oxymoron is sharp and dull. Its an internal contradiction, in other words, its nonsensical. Good luck with that. As Mish has been pointing out, recession is not out of the question. As Bessent has been pointing out, inflation is not being realized in terms of the Lions, tigers and bears oh my MSM econ muppets. Unless you follow the sentiment surveys and skew Dem. And then you’re not a dullard, but truly and idiot.
I totally agree with Mish, about the possibility of a recession. Think of how much was papered over, with borrowed, printed, and stolen Taxpayers money, and it was simply tossed up into the air, so to speak these last 4-5 Years. A Recession is still very much a possibility IMO.
We have School Loans Behind, Automobile Loans Behind, Mortgage Payments Behind, CC Payment’s Behind, and lots more. Unemployment is up, Job are more scarce at the moment, Taxes are due, and piggy banks have been busted open. Why wouldn’t people think it’s a real possibility?
Universal jubilee may be the answer. Kinda like restarting your computer when it glitches.
The arrogance and audacity of demanding rates be lowered while simultaneously imposing tariffs which drive up inflation AND invalidating hundreds of thousands of visas and deporting much needed labor is a colossal level of stupid. It’s 5d dumb with 3 normal levels of dumb plus 2 dimensions of extra-sensory-dumbness.
Maybe I’m missing something but is this TACO clown trying to cause massive inflation on purpose?
Don’t forget raising the deficit by $5 trillion and destroying tax revenues through a recession. Not exactly a strong case for interest rate cuts.
As usual trump is out of touch with reality. Time to change his diaper!
– The arrogance and audacity of demanding rates be lowered. > Many if not Most Presidents, do this.
– while simultaneously imposing tariffs which drive up inflation. > He hasn’t yet, and we don’t know the outcome yet, obviously…
– AND invalidating hundreds of thousands of visas and deporting much needed labor is a colossal level of stupid. It’s 5d dumb with 3 normal levels of dumb plus 2 dimensions of extra-sensory-dumbness.
> All the Illegals are being deported by ICE. That is Why They Exist! They are supposed to make sure illegals Do Not Gain Entry, and IF by chance, a Pen by chance, allows Millions Upon Millions to stream across OUR Borders, then YES, they must be removed By Federal Law.
>> Trump as a Citizen, should be happy about this, as should all Citizens. It’s The Law!
And if you don’t find the Law useful for you, well just buy some Congressfolks and change it in your favor. It’s the American Way.
Most certainly by todays standards, the easiest way for Political Power, rest in how many Politicians you can buy, payoff, promise, Etc.
When or If the Public grows tired of the Antics going on, they will overwhelmingly “Elect Change” and that’s obviously what occurred this past Election.
We shall see, years from now, if the Public and Voters like what Trump and His Administration accomplished. While the jury, so to speak, is still out, it’s looking like huge momentum is on the way for positive reinforcement of His Agenda. Still much time left on that clock…
“We shall see, years from now” 2026 approaches. We can hope.
Luckily Congress spends most of its time groveling for donors and is not that effective at creating new legislation. So we have executive orders, we have courts taking over executive orders and we have Congress with its fingers in the cookie jar. Not exactly how the system was designed.
Stu, get off your knees, it’s embarrassing.
He is only trying to remain the number one item of interest on every media outlet in the world. Trump is mentally ill trying to understand his actions is useless, he must be removed.
I guess I was expecting to read about whether the Fed should drop rates or not – perhaps I missed it. Was that in the post?
scapegoat needs to be identified earlier.
In my opinion rate cuts would be the exact opposite of what is needed, and its dance partner is government subsidies. Both encourage resources directed towards malinvestment and undermine capitalism. Capitalism functions on savings invested in profitable ventures where both investor and borrower make a decent return. Printed money making its way to an investment does not endure the same scrutiny and it is essentially money from everybody in the form of lost dollar purchasing power, thus removing all input from the ultimate lender.
He did the same thing in his first administration calling for the FED to go to negative rates. You have to question the reasoning behind this, since it screws everyone in cash and gives the banksters free money which they don’t deserve. And right now given the chaos of tariffs and so forth it will undoubtedly create hyperinflation.
Raise rates. Kill off Europe.
Well stated!
He can ball up his little fists, stamp his little feet, and stick out his lower lip, but it ain’t happening.
If the Fed lowers interest rates to 1%, we can afford to have $100 trillion in national debt. Think of all the spending that could be done. Interest payments would only be a trillion a year.
It would do wonders for the stock market as well.
To the moon,
AliceTrump!This is the first time in a while I’ve seen the financial press acknowledge weakness in the job market. Something job seekers have known for a while now and it’s getting worse.
The press has stopped running those “worker shortage” and “huge pay raise” stories, but that’s about all they’ve done to acknowledge reality.
38,000 new jobs in the hospitality field is a joke. The hospitality industry is always hiring because people are always quitting those jobs.
Wake me up when they’re hiring 38,000 software engineering jobs that pay enough so people can afford to buy $8 a pound hamburger.
Or how about those 5000 lost jobs in mining. Maybe we should be hiring those guys back to mine rare earths…
When AI comes for your job, the best mines are in West Virginia and watch that black lung, it’s a doozy.
The best mines are in bitcoin!
Sorry, grads: Entry-level tech jobs are getting wiped outNew graduates are being increasingly excluded from a job market that prefers automation and more seasoned workers.
https://sfstandard.com/2025/05/20/silicon-valley-white-collar-recession-entry-level/
“Hiring of new grads by the 15 largest tech companies has fallen by more than 50% since 2019”
It’s never a headline story. Only happy pictures of the economy are allowed. People who are unaware need to be kept uninformed.
This is part of the program to insure that there are no competent workers 20 years from now. Eliminate the trainees and depend upon the middle-aged. Eventually we will have everything run with what AI manages to scrape from the internet.
Ai is gonna kill the software engineer field. Expect ca to take big hit.
And,
the radiologists,
the attorneys,
the architects,
didn’t someone mention truck and cab drivers?
etc, etc, etc…
This will all be taken care of by a tremendous volume of new jobs that will magically appear.
After the Recession.
The Germans had negative Ten Year Bond rates 2019-2021… without immediate Weimar-like inflation … makes one reason that a collaborative heavy-hitter central bank cartel MMT is(at least transiently) possible.
Pretty sure that was a one-trick pony, since now every one of those negative-yielding German
bondholdersbagholders regrets those purchases.The last time the Fed lowered their rate, the long end bond rates soared. At this point the Fed cannot bring down national debt interest payments. Congress will have to get sober first.
Congress is Otis Campbell*, except that he was actually a decent guy. * 60 year old cultural reference.
Trump has a different drug of choice.
Janet Yellen previously and Scott Bessent now have funded much more debt with short term treasuries (1 year or lower maturities). That will work until it doesn’t.
FOMC decision date: 18 June, one day after a natural lower interest rate transient nadir in the Ten Year Note and an incipient crash nadir in equitiies (similar to 4 April and 7 April 2025). A unexpected Fed Funds rate lowering? Could be…
Long end would probably sell off.
TACO can’t blame the slowdown on the fed or biden as the economy ended last year in good shape. Only when trump began his ill-fated tariff policy missteps did the economy start to soften. Of course, it is always someone else fault when things go wrong…………..
Last year in good shape? Did you read any of Mish’s articles from last year?
Trump kills small business jobs
Trump demands someone else address the problem HE directly created by treating something that will make things worse
This is above-average economic literacy by Trump’s standards. Reference his history of casino ownership.
If trumps policies are so successful he would not need to ask for a rate cut.
The fed will wait to cut rates once the damage is done. Just because if they cut to early the results will just make it the damage worse for longer
There are no problems… this is the golden age we were promised. Anything negative is a fabrication of the Lügenpresse.
I guess you’re right, if you call the losing party holding back the overwhelmingly Winning party, with legal BS after legal BS. AND, The party kicked out of office overwhelmingly, is still trying to persuade the Public to choose their way, as the way forward. A losing strategy going against the overwhelming choice the Overwhelming Public chose.that simply adds more losing on top of the losing. There bad choice…