The summit is over and the next round is reportedly cancelled. 
Lie of the Day
In our lie of the day, Trump Grades Putin Summit a ‘10,’ According to Fox News via the WSJ.
Fox News reported that President Trump graded his summit with Russian leader Vladimir Putin a “10” on a scale of 1 to 10, after taping an interview in Alaska with host Sean Hannity.
Roundup
President Trump has left Alaska after meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, delivering brief press remarks and taping an interview with Fox News that was set to air later Friday evening.
Trump didn’t take questions from reporters before boarding Air Force One.
Well, that was anticlimactic.
With the eyes of the world on them, President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin met for a high-stakes summit in Alaska to discuss ending the war in Ukraine. But the second of two scheduled meetings appeared to be scrapped and the joint press conference was short with little substance discussed. Neither Trump nor Putin took questions from reporters, a sign that there was not much to talk about despite the geopolitical drama.
Here are three takeaways from the Anchorage summit.
No Progress: The brief press conference with Trump and Putin indicated they made no real progress in their negotiations to end the war in Ukraine. Trump said he would make some calls and that there might be a future discussion with Putin–perhap even in Moscow–but otherwise they made no specific announcement about approaching a deal to end the war. In effect, Putin got a meeting in the U.S. with the American president–ending his international isolation–despite no evidence that he conceded anything.
Next Steps Unclear: Trump previously threatened that if he didn’t get a cease-fire in Alaska, he would impose “severe consequences” on Russia and might even withdraw the U.S. from the peace process he launched altogether. Now, with no deal in hand, it’s unclear what Trump will do. But one thing is for sure: the war will continue, which is bad news for Ukraine and better news for Russia, as Putin has shown no intention of wanting to stop the fight.
Warmth: Trump and Putin appeared to be very friendly for most of their hours together in Alaska, beginning with a red-carpet greeting. Trump clapped for Putin as the Russian leader walked toward him for an opening hand shake. After a quick stop in front of the cameras, Trump invited Putin into “The Beast,” the famous U.S. armored limo, for a ride to the meeting venue even though the Russian’s transport was nearby.
Trump has long trumpeted his relationship with Putin. However, that warmth seemed to evaporate at the press conference, where Trump looked frustrated and tired after an about about 2 ½ hours hour meeting with Putin. That was supposed to be the first of two sessions, but after it ended, both leaders went straight to the press conference–with nothing to announce.
During the joint press conference, both President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin signaled that they had reached agreement on some issues—without describing what they were. Putin then went on to not-so-vaguely warn European countries and Ukraine from derailing whatever progress both leaders claimed to make.
“I would like to hope that the agreement that we’ve reached together will help us bring closer that goal and will pave the path towards peace in Ukraine. We expect that Kyiv and European capitals will perceive that constructively and that they won’t throw a wrench in the works. They will not make any attempts to use some backroom dealings to conduct provocations to torpedo the nascent progress,” Putin said.
No Questions Says It All
NBC Reports Trump doesn’t speak with press before boarding Air Force One
Trump boarded Air Force One en route back to Washington, D.C., and did not stop to speak with reporters, as he often does while traveling.
He also did not take any questions from the press at what was billed as a joint news conference with Putin after the summit. Putin also did not take questions.
Putin seems to have come out of the summit having racked up a few wins, getting the full red-carpet treatment with — at least in public — no threats of sanctions from Trump and no urgent pressure to make concessions in the war in Ukraine.
It’s still too soon to know precisely what was discussed after neither leader divulged details of their conversation. But for the moment, Putin appears to have bought himself more time despite Trump having set deadlines in July for immediate progress on a ceasefire.
Just as important for the Russian president, Putin was treated as an important leader of a powerful country, not a pariah indicted for war crimes who has presided over an unprovoked invasion in the heart of Europe. The summit’s optics were surely how the Kremlin wanted to portray the event: a meeting of equals, with Ukraine given secondary status.
Senator Mark Kelly
I had hoped for the best but expected this outcome.
Many points were allegedly agreed to. Neither Trump nor Putin named any. However, a confidential source provided this list.
- Both are in favor of mom and apple pie
- Neither likes turnip pudding
- They both proclaim to want an end to the war soon
One now has to wonder if Trump will out any additional pressure on Putin or not.
If not, Putin just got out of the summit what he wanted, more time.
Let’s be honest. Calling this a 10 is idiotic.
Addendum – WSJ Editorial
It was notable that Mr. Putin spent most of his soliloquy in front of the press flattering Mr. Trump, endorsing the U.S. President’s view that the war would never have happened if Mr. Trump had been in office in 2022, and extolling the possibilities for U.S.-Russia business ties. With his economy struggling, Mr. Putin wants financial relief.
In that sense the Russian achieved one of his major goals from the summit, which is the start of his rehabilitation as a world leader. The summit ended his isolation from the West, and he gave up nothing for it. He also appears to have gained more time to continue bombing Ukrainian cities and slowly taking more territory.
It isn’t clear what Mr. Trump gained. He had told the press that he would be angry if no cease-fire emerged from the parley, but Mr. Trump showed no pique afterward. Perhaps there was some quiet concession Mr. Trump will take back to Ukraine, and if so we will know that soon enough.
If there was nothing but niceties and a Putin stonewall, then Mr. Trump will have to decide if he will follow through on the red lines he has drawn. On Wednesday he had promised “very severe consequences” if Mr. Putin didn’t agree to end the war. Will he now move to impose sanctions on such buyers of Russian oil as China and Turkey as he has India? Or will he agree to a second summit, as Mr. Putin seems to want, in hope that next time will be different?
Putin made a bet on another TACO, that Trump would back down on consequences.
It’s early, but it appears Putin won his bet.
Addendum II
The Severe Consequences TACO
What a total “severe consequence” joke.
this headline / post is aging worse by the minute.
A spectacular flop? Measured against what standard? Recall that the 1986 Reykjavik Summit between Reagan and Gorbachev ended in failure. And yet both leaders met face to face, shook hands, and had a lengthy face to face meeting. And that was only the beginning. Five years later a lot had changed.
The first step to rapproachment is to meet and hear each other out.
There must always be war to support the Military Complex and the Steel and rare earth processing for the weapons building industries. EU will oppose any Peace Plan. EU wants war to supports it’s failling economy.
Lies, more lies.
Putin is an idiot and a traitor to his nation and his allies. He collaborated with Israel and surrendered Syria to islamist terrorists who are raping and murdering Christians en masse.
Putin also betrayed his ally Christian Armenia and gave tanks and planes to the muslim azeri terrorists, and permission to commit genocide in more Armenian lands.
Trump is an inveterate liar. He’s a stooge of zionist international bankers.
Those B-2 bombers and F-35s WILL be used against Russia before 2025 is over. Trump lulled Putin into thinking otherwise, just like he fooled the equally idiotic iranians.
Why?
Because our (((foreign))) ruling classes like it that way. Life’s too boring otherwise.
– Lies, more lies. > You’re telling them.
– Putin is an idiot and a traitor to his nation and his allies. > Putin totally controls one of the most lethal militaries in the World, and if that’s your definition of an idiot, up you need to dig much further…
– Trump is an inveterate liar. He’s a stooge of zionist international bankers. > Trump is His Own Person, and consistently try’s to make America a safer, and more prosperous Country.
– Those B-2 bombers and F-35s WILL be used against Russia before 2025 is over. > You’re insane if you really truly believe that statement. Trump will never start a War, as He is against this approach entirely. He is and has always been a Man for Peace..
The MAGA in this one is strong.
Get off your knees Cultist.
86/47 The survival of the US as a Democratic Republic is dependent on the removal of Trump and the MAGA cult. The republic will not exist in 2028 if this doesn’t happen. What will it take for American to act?
I stand tall, with my other American Friends, doing the same!
Kudos for DJ for trying (which greatly surpasses Sleazy Joe’s efforts), but I’m stickin’ to my “2” (1 – 10) rating for the Trumpster. Remember Joseph Goebbels, the Nazi Minister of Propaganda, who purportedly said, “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”?
So, Donny, you rate your summit with Putin a “10?” Well, DJ, let me introduce you to a new concept, “self-aggrandizement.” Trump is an improvement over Biden or Harris, but that ain’t sayin’ much. WHY can’t we do better for leadership in what was the greatest nation this world has ever known.
Not much to negotiate. Accept Putin’s demands, stay status quo and Ukraine will slowly get ground into oblivion, or it’s WW3 baby. Russia is not gonna live with a bunch of Neo Nazi whackos armed to the teeth by the US and NATO on the same doorstep Hitler went thru. Our oligarchs are not gonna get their wet dream of Balkanizing Russia and taking all of their natural resources anytime soon…Trump’s in a pickle here, he doesn’t want to be the US leader that “lost” Ukraine. Even though we all know its BS it’ll be used by neocons and their political allies against him politically.
Whatever….
It is a very good sign.
Leaders of two most important countries which each belong 5000 nuclear warheads,
talk each other face to face.
Where can you find such a good news these days?
Even if they don’t agree on Ukraine war or anything else, they understand and likely prevent the WW3.
Putin – 10
Trump – 0
Think you got this one wrong MISH . . . Lets wait for Monday.
“as Putin has shown no intention of wanting to stop the fight.”
Lie. Yes he has. That was what the Istanbul meeting in April 2022 was all about
“Just as important for the Russian president, Putin was treated as an important leader of a powerful country, not a pariah indicted for war crimes who has presided over an unprovoked invasion in the heart of Europe.”
Putin is only a pariah in Europe, whose leaders are among the worst in the world, with approval ratings from their citizens, who they care nothing about, in the teens at best. The war crimes are BS. Complete lies. and the invasion was PROVOKED, not unprovoked, at least to anyone with even a hint of a brain
This is the problem with citing Intel controlled media, WSJ, WaPo, NBC.
Did we learn nothing from COVID< when ALL corporate media lied constantly about everything and are paid shills of Pharma, and also in this case the MIC?
Why would ANYONE take ANYTHING printed or broadcast by these worthless pieces of human filth in any way seriously.
It is ALL lies coming from media
So where are you getting your secret information then?
No response? Did you find it engraved on buried golden plates? Did it come to you in a dream? Was it whispered to you from the sprit realm?
Come on “Tom”, divulge your secret source of truth!
The consistent Russian/Putin position has been that Ukraine be neutral (like Austria during the Cold War) and ethnic Russians in eastern 1/5 be freed. Before the war. Ever since Obiden fomented the war. And now. That’s all that’s needed for peace. This has been vigorously obscured by the Mockingbird media, but it can be found on fringe media that tells the truth and confirmed various places.
Correct me if
I am wrong, but is it not impossible for something to delcine more than 100%.
Once 100% is reached the is no subsatnce to what existed before???
It is possible for price to decline more than 100 percent if they pay you to take it.
A drug that cost $100 now pays you $1300 to take it off their hands.
This is what Trump is saying.
Like a refundable tax credit.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1956741141090697718
Don’t spread media lies!
Both Mark Levin and Mish are dangerous wingers. They wave liberty and the constitution. They are radicals. They do it for influence, power and fun. They don’t strike. The deliver the ball to the center, pitting us against each other. Both suffer from manic depression and heart problems.
Oh shut up, ya silly twat.
Trump is trying to stop the march to WW3, which is far more than anyone else in the world is doing.
By threatening to invade Canada & Greenland?
By alienating our allies and starting a trade war that deprives us of the rare earths from China that we need for our defense industry?
No wonder Trump welcomes Putin with open arms!
Whose side is Trump on? And YES, that is a serious question…
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Trump said/lied:
“I’ll end the war in Ukraine on my first day in office with one phone call”
“Very Severe Consequences” if Putin does not agree to a cease fire.
“I’ll end the war in Gaza on day one with one phone call”
But he did tell the truth when he stated live on the Howard Stern Show that there are “no age limits” to what age girl/child he would have sex with.
MAGA stands for bullying, intolerance, insurrection and support for a Pedophile.
Trump also told the truth when he stated “I will be dictator on day one”
At best he will collect $500 billion while driving up costs for Americans and bankrupting small businesses ~ while simultaneously adding $2 trillion per year to the debt.
Why is Trump so stupid as to say that drug prices will go down 1,500 percent? The average third grader knows that is impossible!
Let’s hope that there are competent people negotiating with Putin to end Russian and NATO aggression in the Ukraine.
Trump is an embarrassing, blathering idiot!
Thinking back to 1976 the MAGA faithful would understand that Trump voted for the communist party USA in 1976.
Brennan quote in regard to Trumps summit in 2018.
Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???
There are no republicans anymore. Only simps.
France, Germany and the UK promised to support Ukraine, but they are running
low on ammunition. Adding Ukraine to NATO requires all member states approval. Trump wants a ceasefire. Putin wants a peace agreement. It will give him time to kick Ukraine forces out of Russia, expand further west towards the Dnieper and perhaps to takeover Kharkov. Zelensky tells us that Putin wants to expand to Odesa, Moldova, Poland and Germany. That he can’t be trusted. Ceasefires are always broken. Killing fire, before a ceasefire. Stage #1 a mess. Thirty European nations have different interests and opinions. Putin is pitting NATO members against each other. Will Trump change his mind. Will he adopt Putin position. Stay tune. Their biggest problem is the Muslim invasion. !
In my opinion this summit was a great success for the US.
US has an unpayable debt, is totally deindustrialized, does not excel anymore in military equipment, has an indebted population with just a few super rich, just for examples.
If US does not changes its imperial neocon attitude it risk to be dwarfed by the BRICS.The sole China already surpassed USA in Gdp at PPI, IT technology, EV, patents, number of engineers, etc.
So it is paramount for US to become, as soon as possible, a good member of a multilateral word and avoid, at any cost, to become the sole enemy of the rest of the world.
What is the danger and how to avoid it is clear to Trump and his team to whom every American should be grateful, even if they are not allowed to fully understand given the MSM that feed them with lies and the oligarchs that profit from the current status.
You would…
The US is not remotely “totally deindustralized”. Our country was great before Trumps “Disaster #2 term started”. We will be great again when get a political party to represent the center of the political spectrum.
If it were not for trumps imbecilic trade war, we should be roaring forward instead of alienating all of our allies and trading partners.
Trump is driving cost UP for all of our industry that uses Steel, Copper, Aluminum and making us more dependent on oil.
Drinking Fox & Newscorps Kool~Aid much?
We have fascists on the right, socialists on the left.
Where are the representatives of ordinary Americans?
You can’t reason with people that experience reality only through a screen.
deer pot, please let me introduce you to kettle.
Not remotely de-industrialized? You couldn’t even make face masks!
Trump still has yet to figure out that the losers don’t dictate the terms of the peace agreement.
Yes, That’s why the Brits and EU weren’t there. They should spend their valuable time at the bottom of the sea inside the cargo hold of The Lusitania and never come up.
So, are you trying to say that Trump is not a God King? That he could not simply pull a peace deal out of the ether, since Z. was not present, nor were the Euros? Hmmm, funny that.
Of course, the Europeans & Zelensky had their peace summit in Switzerland without inviting Russia…tit-for-tat.
Oh…FYI… Lindsay Graham is getting big time competition/primary for his seat next year. His tune has changed on UKR. Same goes for Cocaine Mitch in Kentucky. He was trying to name his successor but that race is now competitive. Both NEOCONS will want Trumps support in their elections so don’t expect either to come to Zelenskyy’s aide like last time he was in DC….
Cocaine for Mitch must be a better for embalming than formaldehyde.
EU leaders are invited to DC Monday. Could be a shit show or the war could be over. Mish going to post a retraction to this article if the war ends ?
Are you going to quit spewing nonsense when it doesn’t?
EU leaders are invited to DC Monday. Could be a shit show or the war could be over.
EU leaders and Zelinski will be there. This meeting could be more consequential than than yesterdays summit. EU leaders seem to be totally invested (far more than their populations, or Trump) in supporting Zelinski and bankrolling this conflict to the last Ukrainian casualty. On the other hand, they have recently been complete sycophants to Trump and his irrational whims on all other matters.
Will the EU stand up to Trump or acquiesce to his dictates and throw Ukraine under the bus? Or will Trump, as he so often does, agree with the last person he talked with and buy what the EU and Zelinski are selling?
Fascinating. History being made in real time.
Stage #1 cont: Trump and Zelensky will meet on Monday. The European leaders will be tuned in their command ctr. Zelensky will be here on Sun. He will talk to the media.
He should spend the weekend riding the Red Line in Chicago.
The meeting was a success.
Not much happened, but how could it?
There is reason to at least hope we don’t end up with thermo-nuclear exchange.
The US has no cards, but is unwilling to relinquish the NATO and hegemony project.
In the end, NATO will be left prostrate and will hopefully decompose.
Why would any country want to deal or be friends with the US any more? We, are sadly, a duplicitous, conniving, egotistical, corrupt country doomed by our own actions and lack of interest in really understanding the rest of the planet.
May I suggest we just start over and pretend everything from Roosevelt on didn’t happen.
I would say from Wilson on
Entirely predictable. Trump’s negotiating skills are a figment of his own inflated ego. A man that bankrupted a casino is no match for a ruthless killer like Putin. Back to the Trump-Epstein show!
Except for the fact that Z will be in DC in 24 hours and it appears the EU clowns are on board. If you goal here was to see the war continue (UKR front lines are collapsing, they are out of men…) then I guess this was a flop. Ukraine was never going to win this war, from day one. Any high school kid who has taken European history could have told you that in 2022. If this war continues the Russians will be in Kiev by Christmas. Zelenskyy has been lead down the primrose path by Biden, Blinkin, Nuland and Co and has sadly destroyed Ukraine for two generations over something that was solved at the negotiating table in 2022. All the Ukie pro-war lunatics in DC the EU and the media should be ashamed.
Ukraine draft age is 25. They have plenty of men when push comes to shove.
They are using press gangs to round them up. Why would anyone want to fight for a dictator like Zelensky who arrests opposition politicians and journalists and Orthodox Christian priests (& shuts down their churches)? Who makes you a prisoner in your own country?
PEDOTUS TRUMP, aka president pederast is just trying to divert attention away from epstein storm that is coming to get him.
All his prayer buddies will protect him. They just don’t know their prayer line goes to satan.
Actually stopping China and India, and the rest of the world, from buying Russian oil would a huge economic mistake, and Putin knows it. Trump’s popgun has no pops in it.
The big question in my mind which will be answered shortly: WILL THE MIC pour on the Lobby Money on to Congress (we have no way of knowing) but you can bet that the MIC wants the spending to continue. Defense stocks are soaring.
This “summit” was nothing more than the delusions of grandeur of a dottering old egomaniac, Trump, thinking he could dictate world affairs by the force of his personality.
It was hastily thrown together, with apparently no advance negotiations or preparations, based solely on Trump’s delusions of diplomatic glory and desperation to deflect attention from the slowing economy and metastasizing Epstein scandal.
The great unknown is why Putin went along with this spectacle. Perhaps his knowledge of Trump’s psychological profile led him to believe that a chastened, embarrassed, confused Trump will be less likely to apply threatened secondary sanctions and additional military aid to Ukraine.
Trumps behavior in coming days may be very telling.
Agree. But surely it is clear what Putin gets out of it. A rehabilitation on the world stage and good opportunity to fragment his historical foes. Also a quick reminder in The Beast that he still has the epstein videos.
Secondary sanctions have already fizzled out. There’s not much more military aid that could be given and almost nobody to use it. I don’t think Putin is worried about either of those. He probably is concerned with more MI6 terrorism within Russia. My guess is that Putin sees Trump as surrounded by advisors who believe Intelligence Community BS, so he wanted to explain in person that Russia has suffered far fewer losses than has Ukraine, that their economy is doing fine, that their weaponry exceeds the combined West in quantity and quality and that they’re getting tens of thousands of volunteers each month, while Ukraine uses press gangs to snatch men off the street, hand them a rifle and get them killed a week later. In other words, he hoped to burst the bubble of lies that surrounds the president and DC politicians in general. Putin probably also thought it best to convey in person what former US Ambassador to Russia William Burns wrote in 2008 about Russia ever acquiescing to Ukraine joining NATO: “Nyet means nyet”.
Don’t count out MI6 terrorism in the U.S., by ‘some random ayatollah’ false flag with Putin’s business card tucked inside his ‘indestructible’ passport.
But nine years ago it was Her Turn, remember? For want of a cheesehead hat …
He got to stand there on the tarmac with our president and be perceived as a legitimate leader instead of a dictator, mass murderer, and war criminal.
Trump got to flap his arms and look fat.
Guy at the end of the bar is not happy.
Historic Summit: An Empty and Underwhelming PR Spectacle, But Still Good For Relations
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/historic-summit-an-empty-and-underwhelming
If Trump was one of the two main players in the meeting, then anything from Trump rating the meeting other than a ten would be unexpected. He is perfect in all he does, don’t think so, just ask him. Its just more bloviating bluster designed to fuel fake admiration.
it’s enjoyable watching people who couldn’t see biden’s brain was broken continually assume they understand the mind of Donald trump. and in all that time never see that that he (trump) keeps beating them. keep doing what you’re doing. we love it.
I see the thumbs down but yet nobody responds. interesting.
Nobody thought it worthy of a response but me, apparently. You’re welcome.
Both of them are addled old men. The only difference is the adderall they feed trump, and about 100lbs of sloppy fat.
I’ll wait for you to come back with a few more responses. it seems you like to do that. maybe one of them will actually be grounded in reality.
Just cover up your ears and sing “LALALALALA ICANTHEARYOU!”
You are defending a pedo with made up bullshit. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
but i can hear you. you’re not saying anything that’s grounded in reality or, for that matter, anything that i’d expect from even an 8th grader. could this be why your party doesn’t let you guys vote in your own primaries? is it clear now that not only do people like me know that modern democrats are children but that your own party leaders do as well … hmmm … i know, i know, something in ALL CAPS and calling a trump a pedo will help you out here …
– Fox News reported that President Trump graded his summit with Russian leader Vladimir Putin a “10” on a scale of 1 to 10, after taping an interview in Alaska with host Sean Hannity
> So isn’t the real question, did Fox News “Report Accurately”? While yes Trump did grade the “Rapport” with Putin a “10” but Trump never mentioned anything about the meeting or how it went in any way. Simply that there relationship is a “10” and nothing about the “Meeting”
– Trump didn’t take questions from reporters before boarding Air Force One.
> (See Above). Maybe it’s because they take what He says, and “Spins It” to mean something different. Why would He choose to even speak with them, unless He is setting them up, like recently in DC, but that’s just because they give Him so many opportunities, He has to take them up on some of there stupidity…
– Well, that was anticlimactic.
> I think you mean “ Expected” if your paying attention.
– But the second of two scheduled meetings appeared to be scrapped
> “Appeared” Here we go again… Maybe they said what needed to be said, and they are working it out “Quietly and Privately if they’re smart, and they Both Are!
– Here are three takeaways from the Anchorage summit.
– No Progress: > Not true, and you have absolutely No Way to prove otherwise. It’s a false statement based on opinion only, and the facts state differently imo, as they don’t want to involve the Media with its Obvious Lies. I say Good For Them, and it’s about time!!
– Next Steps Unclear: > (See Above) You will know when they are ready to tell you, and not a minute sooner! That’s what I read into it.
– Trump previously threatened that if he didn’t get a cease-fire in Alaska, he would impose “severe consequences”
> “previously” being the “Key Word” as there is no need now for that. They are simply working it out without leaks to the Press, and allowing “Made Up” opinions to look stupid, as they are not based upon any facts whatsoever. They are wisely keeping quiet now…
talk about how fine the Emperor’s New Clothes are.
Very fine, if made in India, I would imagine…
I believe that no one here will take your comments seriously. However, I would love to see someone debate you point for point. There WAS NOTHING shared, so everything is speculation. EVERYTHING.
People don’t like to debate truths, but they love to debate half truths, innuendoes, distortions, manipulations, Etc. They cling to Lies!
Seems that there agreement, undisclosed of course, is starting to show up here and there… Some truth to all information I suppose…
The Ukraine war is now all but over, so I didn’t expect anything to come from this mtg (re. that.). What will be interesting to finally learn is: what was discussed about Syria? Since it’s now pretty apparent that Putin ordered the Syrian army to “stand down”, and Turkey is now immersed in that quagmire militarily while the Brits are influencing the mayors; that mess has yet to play out in meaningful ways…
Syria is an Erdogan’s colony. The Syrian killed the Alawite and the Druze. The Arab world didn’t care. Bibi stopped the genocide and saved the Druze. Syria is dissected. Northern Syria belongs to Erdogan. Mt Hermon (10,000 feet) and Mt Druze in the South are “Zionists entity”. Without Trump Bibi and Erdogan might have cut each other neck. After Jasa, Bibi doesn’t trust a terrorist dressed in Italian silk suit. For almost two months the Israeli air force destroyed the Syrian air defense, ballistic missiles and drones. Thus, they opened a corridor to Tehran. In 12 days the IDF dismantled Iranian air defense, nukes, drones and missiles factories. They killed top scientists and generals. Within 12 days Trump/ Bibi dismantled the evil axis: China, Russia, N. Korea and Iran ==> IT’S ALL ABOUT POWER !
The Duke & Duchess of Sussex seizing control of the Brits would be a major improvement.
Bow down and lick that boot… it’s chocolate flavored!
“Let’s be honest. Calling this a 10 is idiotic.”
And that’s the Trump we’ve come to expect.
Remind us, please, how many times did Brandon meet with Putin face-to-face over the two years he slept through letting a bunch of useless idiots run America? The Summit was a step forward. Putin just needs to kill more Ukrainians while his primary demands sink in, one of which is Ukraine, like it or not, gives up territory.
And Putin did admit that the war wouldn’t have happened if Trump was president.
He didn’t call it that, as that is an opinion that’s based entirely on nothing. What Trump actually said was: His Rapport with Putin is a 10. I suspect it is, based on them still working together for Peace!
You are correct, Sir. The whole issue has been NATO BASES being erected on Russia’s border. How would America take seeing Russia Build a Base RIGHT AT OUR BORDERS (Say Mexico). It would not go well and many Mexicans would die in the cross fire.
Stage #1: grade A+. Trump and Putin improved their relationship after Biden called
him a killer in March 2021. WWII Red Square victory parade with ballistic missiles
and tanks vs Trump’s victory parade with F-22 and B-2 in Alaska, a Russian gift to counter GB, x2.5 bigger than Texas. A ceasefire in Ukraine and the ME in stage #4 might be reached. The corrupt impaired liberal media, with their inflamed tongues and brains, puke everything Trump is doing. Stage #4 brain cancer boiling from radiation and chemo.
Many would welcome peace in Ukraine but not at the cost of Trump bringing it about so for them war is preferable to peace by Trump.
nailed it.
The fact the Boardhost said ” But it Was a Spectacular Flop” says all you need to know about this blog . I mean it may end up being that, but other parties are involved and that clearly will take some time to get any agreement . The fact that there was a effort made to get this war stopped is positive but there is obvously people who don’t want that . The left wing media will do what they can to not see any peace deal because they can’t think of Trump getting any credit . They would prefer nuclear war over that . This article is premature and crazy . The Russians marched into Crimea under Obama and this war was a result of and inept Biden regime facts that the left hate to have to swallow .
I remember the good old days when Mish would speak at precious metals conferences and have pitchers of beer with the fans afterwards.
It’s the first inning and way too early to call the game. For now fans are saying their team will of course win. Only as the innings progress will the fans will be able judge whether their team is winning or not.
I agree Doug, and I believe Peace is a Win, and so do Trump and Vlad IMO. They have no desire for war, that’s a NATO thing. We have been friendly enemies for decades now, so why on earth would they want to change that. We can actually work with them for equal benefits, and war doesn’t help that situation out at all.
Yes, Vlad has no desire for war.
The 20/80 Group does though…
right, sort of like how Trump called the 2020 election stolen because he was leading in inning 3 and then someone else won.
Tech Bros
Hillary should have flown in on her broom, shrieking – “RussiaRussiaRussia!!!”
What happened to the “Severe consequences”
TACO
puke !
They agreed, so no need now.
agreed to what?
There agreement. They know, but you and I and the Media will know when they are ready to tell Us. They have gotten smarter in there approach to information given and when!
what’s it like living in a world where you hope a war continues and people die just so you can point a finger at Donald trump? tell me more about this depraved state of existence. normal people can’t understand it, so it’s on the mad people like you to help us.
Trump should present himself an award in a giant TV spectacular, but a tiny gold plastic trophy in the style of his sneakers. And sell NFTs off of it. The geopolitical emperor’s new clothes.
While this should just be a total embarrassment for the US it also reinforces the obvious fact that Trump is more interested in what he can get from this. So rather than be a peacemaker, he is simply extending conflicts by zero pressure on the aggressor. Same goes for Gaza. I put the personal death toll on Trump pretty high and counting. Biden and the Europeans pretty pathetic but at least they were just incompetent.
I will NEVER find Peace embarrassing…
Candace Owens proving the European leaders are all blackmailable degenerates.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Putin walked away with a guarantee that Ukraine would not be allowed to join NATO while Trump was in power.
Trump likely also promised Putin that he would withdraw arms support from Ukraine and that Putin had 3 years to bring his war to a close.
The main points to discuss were bilateral like nuclear arms treaties (there is lots of money at stake for the US as costs of modernization of US land based ICBMs were $1 trillion in 2019 prices) , diplomatic relations, mutual trade (Exxon is back at Sakhalin). Moscow always prioritized these points over Ukraine. Trump was talking loudly about Ukraine but that was just a ruse, he was just saying what WH visitors or people on phone with him wanted to hear. The main goal of both Trump and Putin was to meet and fully open communication channels. I am sure that there will be another meeting. Next time there may be a deal on Ukraine but that needs time as positions of UKR and RUS are still far apart and position of European countries (we want the war to go on but we are weak and scared and we need to involve the US) doesn’t help to end the war.
Addendum II
Trump holds off on more Russia sanctions.
What a total “severe consequence” joke.
Talking “Severe Consequences” was stupid, but that’s how this POTUS rolls as we’ve seen for five yrs now. There is little he can do to Russia short of initiating a war. The west has forced the BRICS+ to draw closer together, and THEY actually “hold the cards”, and are finally pushing back against our deep state/globalist agenda and telling them to “go pound sand” in the face of new Tariffs, etc.
Talking “Severe Consequences” was sheer desperation as are all ultimatums.
TACO gonna TACO…
It’s all theater to distract from the reality that Putin has already won.
There’s nothing Trump can do. Americans & Western Europeans are running out of Ukrainian manpower to fight our war for us, and it’s not like we have the willpower and initiative of the jihadis to go to the front lines ourselves.
I think you are being a bit unreasonable here Mish. This was an initial meeting, there was no “deal” to sign, becasue both sides have said that such a “deal” must be negotiatied between Russia and Ukraine, not the US.
The mere fact that this meeting took place is a good thing for world peace, unless you are in favor of WWIII. There will no doubt be future meetings, and “deals” may or not be made.
When you have lost the war like Ukraine and the West, you don’t get to set the terms of ending the said war. Name one war in human history where the losers got to decide much. If you don’t want to lose a war, don’t start the war, because wars are uncertain. The US/UK led Ukraine down the primrose path to the cemetary, and the Ukrainians were stupid enough to believe the lies told to them, out of their misplaced hatred of Russia.
Sanctions have only back-fired on the West, making Russia, China and the BRICS more determined than ever to get away from anything the West controls, and driven up inflation in the West via higher energy costs. So more sanctions not being placed is a good thing for the West, though the EU/UK morons still think otherwise, a product of their low IQ stupidity and fantasy worldview.
I think recent history helps explain Russia’s fierce resistance to NATO encroachment. The Russian people have not forgotten the “Rape of Russia” enabled by the US after the Soviet Union collapsed. In my encounters with the public l have noticed there is an astonishing lack of awareness on the history of a given issue and incuriosity about rooting out facts.
Well said. These blog posts are why I say Mish should stick to economics and leave the geopolitical stuff to Simplicius (Substack), Larry Johnson (SONAR21), and others.
The summit was a flop? Based on what measurement? They talked. Putin was probably able to bend Trump ear over root causes, the reality on the ground, etc , none of which are probably being accurately given to Trump.
And you’re going to quote NBC News and WSJ? FFS, they didn’t even cover the press conference. I don’t have cable, but ABC, PBS, and Fox didn’t even cover the meeting. NBC was interviewing some schmuck reporter in Ukraine. CBS had the press conference in the background while some hag told us what to think about it all. Thanks for regurgitating NeoCon talking points about what the public needs to think. The root causes of the conflict stretch back over 30 years; not going to get resolved in a quickly arranged summit. But it’s great that they are talking!
And this quote:
“If not, Putin just got out of the summit what he wanted, more time.”
FFS Mish, more time for what? Russia is not running out of time. They don’t need more land. They do need a buffer zone between them and NATO l, which is totally understandable. They had that buffer zone when the Cold War ended, but then the neocons started moving NATO closer and violating their promise of “not one inch to the east”.
I agree – diplomacy is a process, and it can take years.
What’s interesting is that Putin wants a nuclear agreement more than the US appears to. Not sure what that says about the US – getting dumber, maybe?
i’d agree with you if there was anything, one thing, concrete that came out of this? it’s not like there was hostility between them so that a meeting would thaw that.
your real allegiance is clear from your comment that you shouldn’t start a war. . . . Russia started the war when it’s tanks literally rolled into Ukraine to conquer it, with ZERO incursion by Ukraine into Russian territory.
The war started in 2014, though the first West backed “color revolution” was in 2004. Since 2008 NATO trained and equipped the Ukraine forces, holding 28 military exercises there, and encouraged nationalists who are rabid followers of a famous landscape painter to repress Russians in Ukraine, just as their grandfathers did in WW2. Read up on their national “hero” Stepan, a lifetime of mass murder, loyal to Berlin to serve his own twisted cause.
The first British coup attempt in Russia was in 1829, so we are near 200 years of this same old. Western oligarchs covet Russian resources, thats the root cause. There was no Ukraine until 1922, when Lenin created it out of what was all just varying provinces of Russia, and Stalin added more to it in 1953, different ethnic areas who never got along.
This entire war was created by MI6/CIA/globalists.
My family are Polish, we well know the history here, I doubt you know any of it but the West’s propaganda talking points.
They were “literally”insulted that they missed out on Nuland’s cookies in 2014.
Trump asked Putin for Rare Earths in exchange for peace in Ukraine.
He knows that the US desperately needs another source now that trade wars with China are heating up and the rare earths deal with Ukraine was always a joke (they really have next to none). I expect he wanted a deal for rare earths in exchange for peace in Ukraine, end of sanctions and freeing up of Russian money that’s been frozen.
Obviously they couldn’t make a deal on these 4 points so both sides need time for another proposal before they meet again.
1. Is it better for the US to be dependent of Russia as well as China for rare earths?
2. Russia doesn’t produce many rare earths.
🌍 Top Rare Earth Producing Countries (2024)
Rank Country Production (Metric Tons) Notes
1️⃣ China 270,000 Dominates global production and refining; controls ~70% of global output A
2️⃣ United States 43,000 Home to the Mountain Pass mine; expanding domestic supply chains A
3️⃣ Myanmar 38,000 Major producer of heavy rare earths; exports mostly to China A
4️⃣ Australia 22,000 Strong mining sector; Lynas is a key global supplier A
5️⃣ Thailand 8,000 Emerging player in Southeast Asia A
6️⃣ Vietnam 6,000 Holds large reserves; production is ramping up A
7️⃣ Russia 2,500 Has significant reserves; production still relatively low A
8️⃣ India 2,000 Strategic interest in rare earths; developing domestic capacity A
9️⃣ Brazil 1,600 Rich in reserves; production is limited A
🔟 Burundi 500 Small but growing contributor A
🧭 Key Takeaways
• China is the clear leader, not just in mining but also in refining and magnet production.
• The U.S. and Australia are investing heavily to reduce dependence on China.
• Russia, despite large reserves, has yet to scale up production significantly.
• Vietnam and Brazil are poised to become more influential due to their vast reserves.
True, but I still got a kick out of the flying a B-2 overhead and making Putin walk past F-35s. If Trump can do anything well it’s troll people.
After that flyover Putin expected the kickoff to an NFL game.
The US still imports many Russian products without any tariffs at all. Fertilizers, wood and wood products, chemicals, uranium, precious metals like palladium, certain machinery and tools, etc.
Meanwhile we put tariffs on these imports from our allies.
A few US co are still working in Russia, but not MCD, UPS and FedEx.
I use birch plywood made in the Russian Federation in many of my projects. Very good quality, few, if any, internal voids, and nice grain pattern. Reasonably priced as well.
If it means that the USA will stand down and not interfere with Russia mopping up the battle of Ukraine, then I think it was a success. The West needs this defeat. The West and the Globalist Oligarchs need to understand that no matter how much they wish for it–they will not subjugate Russia. End the war, let Russia pacify Ukraine and then Russia can continue their plan looking to the East. They are done with the West, Putin, Lavrov and many others have said so repeatedly. believe them, We had the chance to embrace Russia and make them allies. We chose not to do so. We chose 30 years ago not to embrace and welcome Russia into the European/USA community and instead seek to dominate and control them, breaking them up and exploiting their wealth and resources. When this battle is over, the Western Globalist leaders are free to continue their internal war against their own people-traditional Christian, white European people who have made up what was once glorious Western Civilization. We’ll see how that war turns out. But for the near future, the West is best advised not to mess with Russia and the BRICs coalition. Compete with them fairly-but peacefully. The days of colonial conquest and exploitation by the West appear to be ending.
true. Now it is the “traditional” white Christians that will be eliminated (slowly) by hyper massive immigration. This will lead to the complete collapse of the Western World, an easy target the for China. Well played !
I don’t like your forecast but you may be right.
Spot on.
Trump didn’t expand NATO. Merkel expanded Nerd #1 and Nerd #2, The EU is Stage #2 of African and Arabs meltdown in Europe. Paris Saint Germain, the EPL are a mix of African and white. Kemi Badenoch, from Nigeria, replaced Sunak. Trump beat Kamala, a black/Indian woman married to a Jew. Kamala and Putin, in Stage #1, had a lot of fun. Putin is much better than her husband.
Have you looked at US demographics?
Trump just offered Azerbaijan & Armenia NATO membership; they’re still working on Moldavia & Georgia, never mind Ukraine.
Trump set in motion the whole NATO-ization of Ukraine in his previous term.
lay off the booze and drugs old sport. time to block your drug habit pecking on keyboard like an old fool spinster warrior.
This!
I profoundly disagree with your first 5 sentences, unfortunately the reminder is spot on.
So Putin literally invades Ukraine and it’s the West that is a colonial conqueror? good to see MAGA is fully emracing the “decolonize” nonsense of the woke, just like they embraced literally every tactic of the woke like pretending they are being unjustly oppressed.
poor Russia, being oppressed and victimized by the west so it has no choice but to invade and kill hundreds of thousands of human beings for no reason, why, it was practically forced to riot and loot. it couldn’t possibly be what it overtly looks like and what Putin has actualy said he wants to do: reverse the fall of the USSR.
Do you remember how the US went nuts over a few missiles in Cuba, despite just having positioned Jupiter missiles on the Soviet border in Turkey?
How do you think any power reacts when you position launchers on their borders and continually lie about the purpose? When you start shelling their compatriots?
Cuban missile crisis was at the height of the Cold War, with Russian AND Cuba making explicit threats against the US. Neither the US nor Ukraine threatened Russia. Rather Russia threatend the Ukraine and invaded Crimea in 2014 under lies that it was neeed to protect ethnic Russians, which was nonsense.
to blame Ukraine for wanting to protect itself against Putin’s aggression in Chechnya, Georgia, and his comments about Ukraine being part of Russia, musing about reconstituting the USSR, is not valid.
Neither the US not Ukraine would EVER have invaded Russia. Do you say otherwise? you think the US would have rolled tanks into Russia?
because that’s what Putin did to Ukraine. So even if there was provocation, invading a country, killing hundreds of thousands of its citizens (and Russian ones) is not justified. blaming Ukraien for being invaded is unjustifiable.
Ukraine’s only chance to win the war is to become an Islamic country. In Afghanistan, Muslims from around the world flocked to Afghanistan to defeat 15 Soviet republics including Ukraine & Russia in a war Muslims didn’t even want. Western men wanted this war in Ukraine but aren’t cut out of the same cloth as the jihadis and can’t even whip one of the 15 former Soviet republics.
Nobody will “win” this war – My position from the beginning.
In my opinion you wrong! But it is very much important to distinguish what do you mean by word “win”. Ukraine definitely lost in any scenario!!!
China is the winner. Biden pushed Russia (who should be our friend) into the arms of China, as if he were paid by China. Oh, that’s right, he was…as Peter Schweitzer has clearly documented.
You should Lear history. There is not such country as Ukraine that is Bolshevik construct for easy management. But does it matters? To complicated to understand it. Isn’t it?
I was born in USSR more then 60 years ago!
“Literally”, again – are you a Journo major from Columbia or NYU?
I will repeat something I wrote late in the older thread. It was addressed to Trumpedo but could just as well be addressed to others.
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I haven’t been around Mish’s comment section in many years and am noticing commenters’ views effectively for the first time.
Inferring from your comment above, i suspect you don’t view the conflict in Ukraine as a manifestation of the multi-century Oceania aggression against Eurasia (to exploit the resources effectively free rather than at cheap prices, with or without ideological differences) that includes the creation of proxies (by finding or creating fault lines in foreign political entities and injecting enough heated rhetoric and weapons until they fracture) and then using those proxies as expendable assets.
Unfortunately, the quality and quantity of Oceania propaganda has proven too effective for me to overcome, even among friends and family who I presume know enough about me personally to trust my judgment and honesty in other matters. That is, I can’t say I’ve ever changed anyone’s mind about anything political, ever. Yet, I’ve failed to fully learn the futility of trying. After all, when a mere acquaintance asked me one little question about the USA threatening Iraq in 2002, it nudged me to research the issue, taught me much more was wrong than I ever imagined, and progressively vaccinated me from subsequent propaganda. Thus, without us knowing each other, I will make a similar very limited attempt to nudge you to seek additional sources of information regarding this conflict.
(And this has nothing to do with Trump, about whom I share your very negative opinion.)
Here goes: “Have you ever been motivated to download and read any RAND reports for yourself, after listening to a podcaster refer to them during discussions about the many conflicts involving Oceania?”
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if any of you care to pursue it and don’t know where to begin, I recommend watching Brian Berletic’s The New Atlas on rumble.
Sigh. From the everything’s a conspiracy peanut gallery. Be off with you.
what?? I can’t tell if this is meant to be serious or a reference to 1984. i’m going w the latter.
The fiction that entertains me most is the kind that educates.
How about you?