“The worst I have ever seen in any poll, on any issue for any president”
Voters Under 30 Stats
- Inflation: Net Approve -82
- Economy: Net Approval -64
- Overall: Net Approval -50
The key question: Will they vote or stay home.
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He talks about his cognitive exams, makes no sense, Jon Husted’s ass, & repeating his grievances.
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The election rates to be fun.
I believe the actual number is worse than 91%.
Disregarding the political aspect, the under 30s generation were economically spoiled, growing-up during the height of the Fed’s subsidies and pandemic bailouts. Powell’s inflationary 2 percent long-rates in 2019 produced historic low unemployment, which gave the average employee dominance over employers. Inflationary pandemic subsidies paid the under 30s to stay home, and then remote work for 2 years or more. Now, the Fed’s tank is empty and long-rates are returning to their mean. Employers demand RTO. This group wants the once in a century good times back. This is why one pollster commented, they’ve never seen this kind of dissatisfaction.
Still, 9% approve on what he has done for inflation.
This is the mind-bending aspects of polling — there’s always a percentage of people that support something unimaginable. So much for polls as oracles.
I don’t blame voters under 30, or 40 as well, because I didn’t know what was going on at those ages but inflation is caused by too much debt and new money creation and those two things have been done for decades under both R and D Congress, and many presidents. If you really want to stand against inflation, vote Libertarian, the only party which support a balanced budget, but remember that even any Libertarian politician could be dishonest and vote for deficit spending if they got elected, which is why people should to watch what they do, meaning how they vote for bills, a lot more than what they say, and hold them accountable at the ballot box.
Interesting that none of them are campaigning on or promising to release the Epstein files when they are elected into office. Much less prosecute anyone..
if Massie gets into a car accident…
Just think how quiet it will be.
we will have to wait until the next Administration but I wouldn’t bet on it happening.
I don’t know who you’re referring to, but if it’s democratic candidates, that’s just untrue. It’s been a major campaign issue for many of the highest profile Democratic candidates including ossof,talarico, hinojosa, sherrod Brown, and many others. Recent Democratic strategy is to investigate the major banks ties to Epstein.
much of the Blue and Red team high command of donors and politicians are part of the epstein rape films/blackmail…………obviously a CIA / Mossad many decade ring.
You always say the same shit, 30 times in the same thread. You sound like a bot.
i am a bot Phillip.
I won’t be convinced until someone sings Daisy.
Robert Maxwell
Leslie Wexner
It is a HUGE reach for him to admit that he wants “me SUMMA DAT” when peering at a Man’s Ass.
That thought CANNOT cross my mind so long as I have nuts.
I am ALSO nuts, but not THAT WACKY!🙄
The old guy is going full stream-of-consciousness.
So 25% inflation during the last administration didn’t trigger a worse rating…perhaps because the stimulus packages that inflamed it also got them by…but prices (and debt) stayed, the medication was temporary. I’m still waiting for the demonrat policy that is going to fix it long term since historically we know that the inflation IS the only non draconian (?) austere policy, non default way they will both choose to address the explosion of debt financed growth for 5 decades off the gold peg. Talk about a single issue poll/vote and one that pretends we can’t look back and compare. Iran and diesel will be the easy target, as it should be, but it’s the debt and cost of it that ain’t going away. Corporate profits and the wealth of the asset holders are the receipt holders of the inflation and I see none of them, a large chunk of them democrats, any more willing to give back than those dissatisfied under 30 cohort.
The party of 25% inflation may win in the country of poor memory but the fun part you’re waiting for may be watching what they do once they are back in power…. they’ll do nothing, claim they need the white house too… and, then what… how about a specific proposal, be bold, tell me how you’ll govern. Because I remember change I could believe in and a very specific cost proposal aimed at health care, that president’s namesake landmark legislation, that’s now a big inflationary mess. McCain/Palin the other unpalatable choice that year.
20 years, both parties. Inflation their only policy choice. And every think tank white paper presents it as choice 1. Every other choice is bad in a different, more severe way. Point is, what are the democrats proposing to end the inflation regime.
The under 30 poll makes sense.
Gas and groceries (and housing and everything in between) will get their daily attention. But it’s been baked into the cake. The real solution is unpalatable to most commenters of this blog, the 17 straight years of massive enrichment thru inflationary receipts. You giving it back? You accepting significantly lower returns? Im down for that, are you? I honestly know i can handle tuna and peanut butter sandwiches for 20 years, grew up in austerity. Cuz that’s what is gonna take, a buckle up buttercup decades long period. But, once in power, everyone chooses inflation, even the not-new alternative demonrats.
The electors want the pain from 40 trillion indebtedness to go away painlessly. Won’t and cannot work. Because individually if you lent money to Uncle Sam right now what interest rate would you need to charge? And that same under 30 cohort would pick a number north of 5. Every financial planner would say a number closer to 10. How’s that gonna work mathematically. It can’t. And it’s global. And it’s why global tensions are high.
Ain’t nothing of what’s coming gonna be fun.
The Democrats haven’t had a plan in 10 years, other than to campaign on “We’re not Trump”.
The Republicans have no plan either, other than to campaign on “Democrats are woke”.
They both know they don’t need a plan, because Americans are so stupid they will vote for one of them no matter what they do.
I think one of the reasons the political process broke is because of the primary system. The extremes have come to dominate the primaries both for the Democrats and the Republicans. So when we get to the general election the general public is faced with two bad choices, one from either extreme. I don’t know how to fix this, although going to a top 2 primary system like what exists in California and Washington might help. In both of those states, voters are generally satisfied with the system, even though it frequently does result in the two candidates in the general election being from the same party. In this case, the debates become about policy positions, and the more moderate candidate can win. The problem: leadership of both the Democratic and Republican parties have consistently opposed it.
Yup, like an abused girlfriend who keeps going back and forth between two abusive partners, each time saying “I am so done with Dick, but maybe this time Rick will be different!”
Then after Rick abuses her, she goes crawling back to Dick, all is forgotten, all is forgiven!
Wash, rinse, repeat.
“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” attributed to A. Einstein
All I can say with certainty I am disgusted with both sides, and anyone in between!!
alot of the inflation we witness is because the people under 60 don’t know what causes it.
“…is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon.”
There, I just saved everyone from spending $300,000 at the University Of Chicago
BIG LEBOWKSI SUMS UP AMERIKA. Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter Sobchak: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there’s nothing to be afraid of.
Most people will not comprehend what Nihilism IS.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
i have been very content in life knowing that most people in the country, are basically nihilists. so they cannot comprehend what the word means. facing reality is a very great way to go through life.
Are there any Executive powers Trump could usurp to try to prevent the elections taking place?
Not legally or constitutionally. But no one knows what he will try.
I suspect little in practice but I could be wildly wrong
do you expect little in practice because Trump folds or because he gets enough push back to whatever he cooks up that he backs off?
Looks like a lot of court battles are coming. I imagine something crazy in Iran to flood the zone. From what heard is some 30 tankers have been hit in the last month or so without American strikes in return.
Lot of wealthy pedos to protect with trump probably very high on the list. Desperate people do desperate things.
Trump can pardon anyone that helps him or he wants to defend. On a federal level at least.
Im all for dems prosecuting or at least exposing the crimes. I really would like them to address the actual issues of the nation. If only to see trump squirm as he vetoes the bills.
Anything he tries will result in 50 states suing the Fed. government.
Trump knows this, at some level.
It is not easy to be an autocrat in the US – the states have a lot of power.
I mean what’s wrong with men rating men’s asses. What man doesn’t love a good male ass? It’s better than trannies, let me tell you. And if you’re the president you can grab pussies and rate male asses, because you’re the Emperor, you’re fucking Nero, you can do whatever you want. Call someone Mohammed, call them Buddha, call them fucking Moses, I don’t care. You’re the president, you can do what you want. Shoot someone in the street it’s ok.
God, I hate democracy.
You seem upset…
I wonder what the response will be. Does America embrace that all things are lies or holds people more accountable
It was mostly the alcohol tbh.
Not strange. Epstein class.
“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”
― Winston S. Churchill
We are NOT a democracy, for Christ’s Sakes!
America is a “Representative Republic.”
GO LOOK UP “What is a DEMOCRACY” – – if you do not believe me.
America is neither and democracy nor a representative republic.
America is an oligarchy featuring unlimited legalized political bribery, with some theater tacked on to keep the masses distracted.
Depends on whether you define democracy narrowly as you do or as the representative republic that is supposed to behave democratically. Otherwise the “representative” part is a lie, yes?
The definition you’re using isnt unheard of. But I think it doesn’t help. Youre arguing a technicality.
As much as I clearly dislike our rulers and propagandists, they all always refer to their oligarchy representative regimes as “democracy”. So, even though we r not, the idea of “a government being governed effectively of the people, by the people, and for the people” is an aspirational goal.
TL;DR: Please stop arguing “it’s not a democracy, it’s a republic”. It’s semantics.
Democracy in America – Alexis de Tocqueville, 1835.
I never look at Men’s asses…unless I am at a truck stop and the Drivers are all lined up at the Urinals and I gotta run to a Stall.
But, those WOMEN ASSES: well, I married my wife PARTLY for her incredibly fine ass. EVERYONE noticed it…not just me. It was in her Family, from her Mom as well as Mom’s 6 Sisters – – all born in the 1930’s. A FINE SWATH OF ASSES, I gots ta tell ya!
Did they live in a hilly town? Unsure but think that helps. A natural “stairmaster” on every trip to school or grocer.
Postwar, one could stick fenders on cars for a nice middle class wage, and had a lot of spare cognitive capacity to assess and pursue asses.
Sorry I became a dick in the other thread, peelo. Thanks for letting me off the hook with this light-hearted comment of yours.
So Trump succeeded in framing the narrative here at Mish Talk comments. I guess one could incorporate ass metrics in global economics now — the attention economy rules. As ever: up from dogs and back again to dogs in a few millennia.
Lulu stock price is way down this year. Are women still videoing their own asses at the gym?
Yeah, but he has 100% approval among people named Netanyahu.
I think the Orange Julius Caesar can do better than 91%. Plenty of time to go higher. Maybe even past 100%.
How many NuttyYahoo’s are there?
One is all that is needed to hold Trump’s leash.
Or hold his chair for him.
Oh, doh…that was the reverse.
Approval, but no respect.
Don’t get me started.
Everybody knew Trump was working for Israel. But we thought he would also work for the American people. Now it is pretty sobering to realize that he ONLY works for Israel and even against his own people in may ways. The only topic I still agree with him is how he handles migration. European governments in Germany, UK and France use mass invasion as a tool against their own people. They are arguably 1000 times worse than Trump.
A slave cannot serve two masters. Trump serves Satan, the great deceiver, and he does so well harvesting souls for his boss.
Our slaves help out the neighbors at times. 🙃
Most people in the room would remind you that it is not necessary to handle immigration through murder and torture.
We used to handle immigration within the confines of our own legal system and habeas corpus. Not anymore. I don’t agree with that very bigly
The “Good Ole Days” in the 1800’s: we put ’em to work in the South, harvesting Cigar Tah-bakee.
Are you a commie? Why why why do you hate freedom?
/sarc
Have you ever heard of “Manchurian candidate”?
Works for
BiBiPutin
Markus, your DOWN-VOTES here at 6:50am PST, tell me that MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW EUROPE. We live there Part Time and TALK ABOUT LIBERALS!
Whoa: it is ASTOUNDING how many Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Fins and the like say to us: “How can you stand that Trump?”
The reality is that EUROPE is a TOTAL MESS. Immigration out of control. Not so much in Portugal but our GERMAN friends reported to us that their Penthouse in Hamburg has a HOMELESS IMMIGRATION DETENTION (FENCED IN CENTER) within 1/4 of a KM and they are FINE WITH IT!
Their Tax dollars are being funneled, as it is here in the USA, into the homeless hands – – FREEBIES, including health Care.
Europe would have no immigration issues worth discussing, but for America’s wars.
Algerian immigration to france is sort of the exception, but that stemmed from french colonization of Algeria and its failed war to subdue that country.
So, I’m not quite clear… are you in support of the child raper in chief? You rub right up against it, but don’t quite say.
“European governments in Germany, UK and France use mass invasion as a tool against their own people. They are arguably 1000 times worse than Trump.”
Really? OK go ahead and make the argument that they are 1000 times worse then.
1000 is ridiculous, the number is obviously north of 100,000.
It is amazing to see how fast the implosion of this administration is happening now. When Trump came into office, I had two questions–
The surprising thing to me is that Trump’s rating on inflation isn’t at -82 in all age categories, not just those under 30.
I mean most incompetent in history is already achieved. He was like “Trump 2016, hold my beer, I got this.”
FFS he was like “Biden dementia and Trump 2016…. shit I got ya covered”.
Trump reminds me of our Childhood Neighbor’s Kid, who had a rear-of-the Yard Mechanical Shop for his Hot Rods. 4am: RACING HIS ENGINE for SAT’s Drag races…woke up EVERYONE.
When we confronted his Dad: SHRUGGED HIS SHOULDERS.
“Hot rods make noise!”
My Dad then secretly siphoned 1/2 of his Car tanks when he was at work on late Friday afternoon. We used the Fuel in all of our cards.
Dad never had a clue that he was being TAXED for his utter cluelessness and careless attitude.
My 1962 Chevy, for an entire year, always carried the Neighbor’s Leaded Gas.
In a prior thread, someone casually repeated the claim (that I used to agree with) that Oceania has a good system of government. Judging by the results, China has a better form of government. And the contrast in results is stark.
China has elections at the local level, where voters might actually know something about candidates. The lower level then nominates and votes on whom to promote to the next level. In this scenario, the voters know the candidates pretty well. Repeat that for anothert 2-3 levels up and you end up with Xi. In 70 years since a revolution and despite all kinds of foreign sabotage (including attempted color revolutions), Chinese serfs now live as well as Oceania serfs. And China seems to be pulling ahead, all without mass-murdering people around the globe and denying other nations (via coups, occupation, media control and propaganda) the right to self-determination. In my book, this is success.
Contrast that with Oceania.
Oceania currently has Donald Trump. Before that, Joe Biden. Two back-to-back octogenarian dementia cases. Yet there is no 25A case in sight. The top people are either rapist pedos or defend the same, as accessories before or after the fact. Is there a need to discuss the unpunished crimes of the past 20 years within the financial system, MIC, medical system, or elsewhere to conclude it is not a “nation of laws”?
Oceania mass murdered across the continent and then across the globe, during its entire existence. Plus slavery, apartheid for a century more until the 1960s, and now (a lesser insult of) indentured servitude of its (purposely) miseducated youth regardless of color.
Despite successfully engineering and coming out on top of ww2 and then the hybrid war against the USSR (mortally wounded from ww2, just like the French empire), you wouldnt know it from looking at its former great cities in the Rust Belt. Average real earnings for the bottom half are back to 1970s or, if you use non-regime inflation metrics, worse. To stay solvent, Oceania devalues its currency at an ever-alarming rate, imposing costs on its serfs domestically and within its financial colonies. It is a bankrupt system that depends on the productivity of others or stealing their resources.
Oceania government is unable to reach a stable steady state within its own footprint, let alone do good for its serfs. In my book, this is failure.
What an amazing and beautiful comment. Its the perfect statement to complement, “got exit strategy” because if you are a person with a soul and do some soul searching, there is only one path and thats to leave evil-land filled with blood thirsty war mongers and child rapists.
You earned a Mishelin star for your comment and finally starting to see the light.
Got exit strategy?
Why, thank you, sir! A Mishelin to call my own — and I didnt have to ask María Corina Machado for hers!
This is where I miss the laughing emoji response option!
>> finally starting to see the light.
>> Got exit strategy?
Well [hushed tone] just between you and me, I already exited. Not in a 45′ Bruce Roberts cruiser like yours. I made too many bad financial decisions and worked for too many crappy employers along the way. So, I’m in a — let’s call it — a 25′ Catalina. (Completely metaphorical. I am a land lubber.)
I saw a small light decades ago, when someone told me something that didnt sit right. For the next 8 years, I read and argued and read online. I learned from a few dozen blogs. Sometimes, I reached the blog wall like Jim Carrey in The Truman Show, discovered it was controlled opposition, and moved onto adjacent blogs that went deeper and farther outside the Overton Window.
Took more than an intense decade to reassess everything. Not just the “news” occurring during the present or during my lifetime but all the fake history we’d been taught during our gullible youth. Many enlightened people never revisit the history part.
Eventually, I started making and executing plans.
Most people don’t nearly understand the toxicity of “the information environment they swim in”. Once you see it for what it is, it’s tiresome to be subjected to it relentlessly.
I think most of the elites are steeping in it too, because most of them seem to be “true believers” — not faking it. Due to compartmentalization, they “don’t know what they don’t know” about lies that have been told (in the present or especially the past).
Anyway, am glad to be living now in a relatively rural backwater surrounded by people whose language I dont understand. I doubt they’re significantly better informed by their telly (aka YouTube) than where I left. But at least I dont understand them. Rather than exerting myself rejecting nonsense bombarding me at a conscious level, the noise stops at my ear.
very interesting. up to a point. i’d suggest you take a deep dive into Xi childhood. and what happened to his father, a very close revolutionary of chairman Mao. his father was starting to ease up on the people a small bit. so Mao sent in the goons to kill him and rape Xi sister and Xi lived in a cave for a few years. moral of story. even an old war buddy that helped you take over the most populated country during a very very long and brutal civil war, is expendable if they show any signs of weakness. i don’t think your analysis is valid. of how china works, since Xi took power for LIFE. the liberal china lasted a few decades. that’s over. the more interesting thing imho is the valid rumors that Xi is not well. and he has purged every strong man around him in past few years. at the money show in orlando last week there was some high ranking usa intelligence officers discussing this. food for thought.
Babies on bayonets, Gaddafi rape drugs, babies from incubators, red purges, yellow peril, the terror. … I doubt these stories about Mao and Xi. And I especially doubt “intelligence officers” peddling them.
Empires spend considerable resources crafting fake stories to shape perspectives, to turn targeted leaders into bogeymen. These stories sound like too many others discredited as fake but also very difficult to falsify (to help them “stick” to people already biased). Indeed, there are always waaaay too many more floating around than independent researchers (who are /not/ funded by your tax dollars) can afford to debunk.
People in that biz might truly believe what they say, because they believe they had or retain “inside knowledge”. But do they? Seemingly glossed over or forgotten even by the “former” insiders who share these stories, empires compartmentalize effort on everything including the lie factory, to minimize leaks (sometimes due to simple bragging, like when certain people publicly gloated about NS2) that otherwise undermine the fake stories being peddled.
Surely many “intelligence officers with inside knowledge” were told and believed the story about “the Vietnamese attacked the Maddox”. Or, more geographically relevant, almost everyone I meet believes the NED-sponsored version of the Tienanmen Square event, whereas FOIA releases and other independent journalism led me to believe Warshington killed more people in Waco — men, women, and children who weren’t even a threat to the government! let alone infiltrated and repurposed by foreigners.
Because many people trust these ‘intelligence officers’—especially the retired ones—they’re a natural conduit for laundering fake stories. They go on the talk-show circuit, sincerely repeating what they were told, and their sincerity sells it. They’re not lying. They’re effective tools. And that’s by design: empires tell their best lies to their own people, especially the ones inside the machine. Just like a philanderer saves his most convincing story for his wife, because she’s the one most likely to catch him and do the most harm. The empire does the same with its MIC employees.
Corrected here: “Is there a need to discuss the unpunished crimes of the past 75 years within the financial system, MIC, medical system, or elsewhere to conclude it is not a “nation of laws”?
Agree! I mean, we can go back further. Lots of valid inflection points.
Now he says he can pardon himself? Isn’t that an admission of guilt? Don’t you have be specific about exactly what is being pardoned? His citizenship should be revoked and he should be sent to some shit hole in Russia.
Let’s save on the plane ticket and just buy him a bus ticket. There are plenty of shitholes domestically.
I don’t understand how anyone would approve.
Apparently you’re not a “Christian” Zionist.
Apparently you’re not my senile Muslim-hatin’ mom, who won’t turn down Mike&Molly or Faux News while complaining she can’t hear me on the phone.
Do they teach economics as a high school subject in America any more? From what I can make out, they have given up teaching it in Australia. I suppose even with all the mystification they used in my day, they got too many questions and raised too many doubts.
it depends where in amerika. in the high schools that are the feeder schools to wall street, for sure. in flyover country from south brooklyn to bumpfuck amerika, hell no.
Not sure it was ever taught in high school.
Economics is usually offered as an elective course, at the college level.
Positively Nixonian! Now all he has to do is cause rich people a ton of money with a financial crash and he’ll be impeached
Would Donald Epstein even deny being a crook? Wouldn’t he prefer to claim he was the best crook ever?
I’d like to see William Shatner costumed as Trump speak-singing My Way, bragging about everything he’s done for himself.
[1 hour later]. Okay, I could not resist.
……
And now, the end is near —
and so I grant my self-pardon.
My friend, I’ll say it clear:
I won. I won. Of that I’m certain.
I’ve lived a life that’s full —
I’ve grabbed, and groped, and stiffed the servants.
And more, much more than this —
I did it my way.
Regrets? I’ve had a few —
but then again, too few to mention.
I fired Comey. True.
I’d do it twice. With more intention.
I planned each grifted scheme —
each bathroom doc, each Sharpie-drawn direction.
And more, much more than this —
I did it my way.
Yes, there were times — you know the kind —
I Truth’d it first, then left you blind.
I issued my coin, I pumped the price,
then cashed the bribes — so clean, so nice.
I faced the probe — and stood real tall —
and did it my way.
I loved free jets, from violent thugs —
I cancelled treaties, without a shrug.
I kept the docs beside the loo —
tremendous toilet. Classified. It’s true.
I swear I was shot — Butler, PA.
Then killed the probe. What can I say?
They found a gunman — in the shrubs —
four hundred yards off. Tremendous clubs.
I told them “fight” — peacefully!
Then watched from the couch. So comfortably.
I took the call. I made it “perfect.”
The favor’s real. The crowd was worth it.
For what is a man? What has he got?
If not his kids — placed in every slot.
My son-in-law, my daughter, too —
I put ’em everywhere. That’s loyalty, you knew.
The record shows I took the blows —
and stiffed the lawyers, Lord, it shows.
To say the things I truly feel —
the election’s stolen. That’s the deal.
The record shows I took the blows —
and did it my way.
YES. I DID IT MY WAY.
love it
Grazie mille, capo.