Message to Progressive Congresswomen
Fix Your Own Crime-Infested Countries
Pelosi will Work Out Free Travel Plans
Trump Accused of Racism
Please consider Trump Tells Group of Democrats, Who Are Minorities, to ‘Go Back’ to Fix Problems.
President Trump said on Twitter Sunday that a group of liberal lawmakers currently at odds with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi should “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came” before arguing for how the U.S. should be governed.
Democrats immediately denounced the comments as racist, with Mrs. Pelosi calling them “xenophobic.” The four Democratic women at whom Mr. Trump apparently aimed his Twitter message are all minorities; just one was born outside the U.S.
Four Radicals
Trump’s Tweet storm was aimed at Congresswomen Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Rashida Tlaib of Michigan, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Ayanna Pressley of Massachusetts. All were born in the U.S. except for Ms. Omar, who was born in Somalia and came to the U.S. as a child.
Mrs. Pelosi has tried to corral liberal members of her caucus with those closer to the center, arguing the party is stronger voting as a bloc. The four progressive women have argued that Democrats need to be pushing bigger ideas. While the women have had little success in affecting actual legislation, they hold significant sway among party activists, and their voices have already influenced the presidential debate.
Public Feud as Democrats Attack Each Other
Tensions are already high as speaker Pelosi has resisted efforts of the radicals to push policy to the extreme left. The result was a Feud Among House Democrats on Public Display.
Acrimony among House Democrats continued to flare on public display into the weekend, despite efforts by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to keep discord between Democratic leadership and more progressive members private.
Mrs. Pelosi (D., Calif.) this week had urged Democratic lawmakers not to make grievances with each other public, telling her caucus in a closed-door meeting to avoid criticizing each on Twitter. But on Friday night, the House Democrats’ official Twitter account extended a continuing spat over the party’s policy direction by criticizing a top aide to Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.), a progressive star who has tried to push House leaders to the political left during her first months in Congress.
Progressives Boo Pelosi
At a gathering of progressive activists called Netroots Nation in Philadelphia on Friday, the crowd booed Mrs. Pelosi a few times during a panel discussion on the obstacles progressives face in Congress.
Border Funding and Racial Issues
Some of this stems from a border funding bill that Pelosi helped pass with more Republican than Democrat votes.
Also, note that Racial Issues Rise to Surface in Dispute Between Pelosi, House Freshmen.
Race has become a flashpoint in the growing dispute between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and a quartet of liberal freshmen lawmakers, again pitting Democratic members against each other in starkly personal terms.
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) told the Washington Post that she felt Mrs. Pelosi was persistently singling out “newly elected women of color” and the speaker’s comments were disrespectful. The remarks drew fire on Thursday from fellow members of color in the caucus.
“What a weak argument,” Rep. William Lacy Clay (D., Mo.), who is African-American, said of Ms. Ocasio-Cortez invoking race. “Because you can’t get your way, and because you are getting pushback, you resort to using the race card. Unbelievable.”
Pelosi Stands Up to AOC
Say what you want of Nancy Pelosi’s policies, she is at least smart enough to understand that AOC is too radical for the good of the Democratic party.
Pelosi had to do something.
In response, AOC accused Pelosi of being a racist. What a hoot.
Turbo-Charged Racism
The Washington Post reports Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.), an African-American freshman lawmaker said the party doesn’t need “any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice” during a speech at the liberal Netroots Nation conference where she, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and Rep. Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) appeared after a week-long clash with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and her allies.
Excuse me for asking but why isn’t this black racism?
Imagine the outrage if someone said “white faces need to represent a white voice“.
Winner: Trump
AOC is so far left on climate, on race-baiting, on free money, etc., that Pelosi has to rein AOC in.
It should be increasingly clear that AOC is every bit the bully that Trump is, and a racist to boot, she just does not have any power.
Importantly, no matter what you think of his tactics, Trump is clearly the winner in this feud.
Mike “Mish” Shedlock
Trump, by his clumsy, reckless example, is restoring to the USA the freedom to express “inconvenient truth”.
This is hilarious the crybaby leftist dem’s are full blown race baiters with zero tact and no plan, the media adores them. The mass majority at home doesn’t want to hear any of this. It could all go away if these kids would just grow up and shut their mouths and govern for the people they represent not the 10% of people on government services. Trump usually sticks to factual comments with his tweets but the media wants controversy no matter how ridiculous the reason and mostly no reason for. Trump will win
There are only 4 races – black, red, white, and yellow. Mexican, Somalian, Guatemalan, etc are ethnic groups, not races.
The bigger issue is people coming to the US and not respecting our culture and traditions, and bringing their subservient attitudes toward govt.
I think Trump’s point is people should stay and fight for change in their own country, instead of bringing their defeatist attitudes that allowed their govt to run roughshod over them. With these attitudes, they would voluntarily hand over their guns AGAIN.
The racism defense is typically used when an unassailable truth has been raised. For example, to say that black American women are obese would be called racist, but the actual data bears out the statement. And so AOC uses the defense against Trump’s statements. But aside from the transparent tactic, also used on Pelosi, what race is AOC referring to? Hispanic and Latino are not races. Marco Rubio, an Hispanic and Latino by standard definitions, is a white man of European ancestry, whose ancestors owned slaves. Will AOC get a DNA test, a la Warren? Is she a descendant of Spanish oppressors? This is really vile cowardice, but typical.
For what it’s worth, AOC has Puerto Rican ancestry which means she is NOT from some recent immigrant family. Puerto Ricans have been American citizens for over 100 years (ever since the Spanish war where Teddy led a charge on San Juan hill in Cuba)!
Democrats and Republicans are ratcheting up the craziness. Trump’s success is a backlash against Democrats emphasis on progressive social issues. The New Democratic candidates are a backlash against Trumps extremism. The divide deepens and politicians are loving it. People I know are posting about being ready for civil war.
Agree with your first two statement. I don’t believe Trump is responsible for current crop of canidates that the Democrats are putting forward. Bernie should have in all rights been the nominee. The Democrats have been heading in this direction and continue to do so. Democrats of the 60s and 70s were much more conservative than the party is today. Progressivism has forced voters to make a choice as to whether they still associate with the Democratic Party and many moved to center right. The Clintons, The Bushes, portrayed themselves as centrists, which is why they won (obviously Bill and Hillary were a “team”). However, being a centrist also can be equated with having no strong values. In polarized times such as now this can be a negative or positive depending on your opponent. Not defending Trump, just don’t see him as being the true impetus for what’s happening.
Perhaps Mr. Trump should go back to that sh*****e country that he helped build, AKA New York City (believe me, it is not part of the USA), overthrow its socialist ruler who is running it into the ground, and help make it great again.
Is this London, Pakistan or is it India??? I will vote for Trump once again. Democrats will make our country look like this with their immigration policies. We cannot allow this in our country. It’s not wrong or racist to want to preserve our culture, our religion and our values.
This is how London looks like today – feels like you’re Mumbai or Karachi – Who wants this in United States. I am pretty sure no democrat wants this to happen to our country
It’s not wrong to want to preserve your culture and values – it’s perfectly OK.
Japan have maintained their culture by putting strong immigration laws. You look at how Tokyo looks today, you would still love it. Walk in the streets of London, you would feel like you are in Karachi, Pakistan or Mumbai in India or some Islamic country and you would not want the same thing to happen in US.
I don’t like Trump as a person, he is despicable, but I support some of his policies. The more I travel to Europe, the more I agree with Trump immigration policies. Our cities should not look like London or Paris.
Currently, White British in London are 44.5%.
Give them another 50 yrs and they will be 25%.
50 yrs from now, White British politicians in London will always lose to politicians from migrant communities. They will get sidelined in their own country, they will become a minority in a city that was once their own English city, they will lose their culture and values and London will lose all it’s glory.
Sorry, white british demography in London is 59% not 44.5%
” . . . how London would look like 100 yrs from now. Mosques will be all . . .”
Or . . . it could have a rerun of the Third Balkan War. As a native (and now ex-) Londoner, either outcome would break my heart, but I cannot imagine a peaceful outcome to this.
When I went to school (in London), we spoke a mix of languages at home, where often the elderly never did adapt. But we ALL spoke English at school and behaved the same way. The difference now is that the (primarily) Pakistani communities have formed such large homogenous groups, that they almost never interact with native British. Second and third generation Muslims are more foreign, combative and resentful than the original immigrants. This will not end well.
Clearly you don’t get out much. You don’t have to go London or anywhere in Europe. Maybe you should travel more domestically instead of staying in whitey-ville.
Technically, Trumps statement is nationalist. Not racist. Most are unable to distinguish between the two. For example, border walls are used to separate nations. Not races.
Telling non-white citizens to go back to their country is racist not nationalist. Do you even know what being a citizen is ?
This is easily fixable. He’ll just say that autocorrect picked ‘countries’ instead of ‘counties’. Just like his Russian ‘misstatement’ (“I don’t know why it would be Russia” vs “wouldn’t be Russia”). Truth and intent is very maliable with him. (Not trying to defend him in any way.)
The Washington Post reports Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.), an African-American freshman lawmaker said the party doesn’t need “any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice…”
Isn’t she supposed to be a representative of all her constituents, regardless of their color?
“According to this logic, MLK was a racist.”
If you promote favoritism for any ethnic group, you are.
Mish
Which, in populations which competitive evolution have rendered rational utility optimizers, resolves to: “If you promote any government powerful enough to be able to promote such favoritism.”
What favoritism is AOC and the other three minority females demanding?
He usually is.
It’s interesting to look at the resumes of these 3 house reps. None of them did much of anything before gov’t. Basically never had real jobs or accomplished much of anything of note. Omar was a “community nutrition educator” & “child nutrition outreach coordinator” for a few years. AOC was a bartender. Tlaib never did anything but politics from the beginning. Yet they seem to be the new great liberal minds to re-shape U.S. economics & society. Same thing when you go down the roster of Dem prez candidates….either career politicians, ivory tower academics, gov’t attorneys.
Excellent point! Its very scary when our leaders have no concept of what it takes to survive in private industry.
It’s even scarier, when they have been fully indoctrinated into believing the “concept” that what it takes, is The Fed and Governments pumping up New York property prices……..
Trump is a loudmouth and a straightshooter, who conflates causes and effects because he lacks intellectual capacity for subtlety. This is unfortunate because he could bring up valid subjects that nobody would touch with a long pole. Hence nobody has yet publicly come out to claim the subject, why are there global s***holes with self-inflicted problems that send environmental migrants the world over. The UN should have a slogan permanently posted on high mast in front of it’s headquarters: Breed responsibly or die, but by its constitution cannot. So we are awaiting an event, an environmental 2008, after which everybody would ask the question, how could this possibly happen?
“Excuse me for asking but why isn’t this black racism?”
According to this logic MLK was a racist.
AOC is behind primary challengers to corporate democrats like William Lacy Clay and others and why Pelosi is attacking them.
Trump is a race baiter extraordinaire and its why Pelosi is backing him. She thinks people will be so disgusted by him that they will vote for the democrats as the lesser evil. Best of all is the Democrats don’t have to stand for anything but can just pretend to be “woke.”
The world isn’t so simple that free market equals good and socialism equals bad. War requires a willing population to fight and die and that requires (socialism and good propaganda) because no one is going to die for no reason.
Trump is blabbing about Iran but who’s going to do the fighting? 100-200k soldiers is not going to cut it. I don’t know how many of the hurrah patriots want to become cannon fodder.
It’s easy to start a war but much harder to end them. These culture war are a joke but they are not going to end because it seems everyone wants to be woke, a victim of oppression, or a snowflake.
“..War requires a willing population to fight and die ..”
It primarily requires a standing army. Under command of someone able to force not necessarily willing; just unarmed, hence subservient and bent over for lack of alternatives; people to fight for whatever nonsense Dear Leader feels will properly aggrandize himself.
Dump the standing army and rely on a fully distributed militia of random dudes with cool guns and kit, as the Founders figured out back when America still had aspirations of being a civilized society; and pointless wars in faraway places become infinitely harder to coordinate and effectuate. Never mind fund, once designated “taxpayers” have guns and the “taxman” does not….
“‘Excuse me for asking but why isn’t this black racism?’
According to this logic MLK was a racist.”
How so?
If Rep. Ayanna Pressley said the party doesn’t need “any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice,” then she is saying there is a single voice that speaks for black people. Not only that, but apparently she (and perhaps a few others) is an arbiter of what that voice can say. I don’t believe that was MLK’s message at all.
Being an advocate for a community is not Racism. The whole logic ignores all historic discrimination and pretends that everyone is on an equal footing.
i.e. Mish wrote, “Imagine the outrage if someone said “white faces need to represent a white voice”.”
According to this logic MLK is a Racist since he advocated for the black community. Mish’s logic is that to be a “voice for a community equals racism”
Racism is when you demonize and attempt to harm a different “race” due to them being subhuman.
Mish’s logic ignores the extensive history of White racism in the US. Slavery, Native American Genocide, Segregation, Lynching, etc never happened.
Mish basically doesn’t believe racism exist. He’s assumed it away; basically the historical record of white racism is to be ignored.
MLK, from what I’ve read, advocated for the black community to be judged as individuals and not as a group based on the color of their skin. That contrasts directly with the comment from Pressley who apparently knows how black people are supposed to think and act and does not want to hear from black people who don’t have a “black voice.”
The logic behind Mish’s rhetorical question is that a different standard is being applied to white people than black people that is readily apparent when you turn Pressley’s phrase around. Of course, it can be argued the relative power and history between the races makes Mish’s analogy inappropriate. However, the logic behind the analogy does not imply MLK’s advocacy on behalf of the black community was racist.
Like Trump, Omar is interesting because she’s a genuine person. A few months ago, she called out the Israel lobby and basically called Obama a war criminal, all in the span of a few days. It showed she has more guts than pretty much anybody else on the Hill. Of course, the slings an arrows came in from all directions because DC critters should never display that level of honesty.
Anyway, these four women don’t scare me. Sure they’ve got bad ideas, but advocating for the Fed-fueled status quo is horrible too. Plus it’s a good thing they’re at loggerheads with Pelosi. We need much more infighting in both parties to have any chance of dismantling this duopoly.
“…but advocating for the Fed-fueled status quo is horrible too…”
+1
As is drumming up petty, pointless, childish, supposed “animosities” between members of the Court, Like this made up spat, in order to divert the attentions of the weak and gullible from the only things which really matter: Blowing the fed-fueled status quo to absolute smithereens and replacing it with absolutely nothing.
Agree, with the wedge DT shoved into the Democratic party, perhaps after they get Dukakis-ed in 2020, they can split into 2 parties which will more closely fit with the electorate – a left party and a center-left party.
The GOP also needs to split between a center-right party and a libertarian / right party.
Pretty much neither party has a clear identity at this point, and “two” party system is effectively a one-party system at the moment.
Enforcing the integrity of a border is not extreme, dismantling a border is. Pointing out that so many democratic “leaders” come from crappy places with crappy governments is a very reasonable point. You want to know where race relations are pretty sanguine? The south and midwest. Yep. Spend time there and you’ll see people being decent to each other. Most of us couldn’t care less about race, but we do judge people by the content of their character. Hmm, that sounds familiar…
Trump needs to just come right out and say that if you are not white or you are an immigrant (legal or illegal) or first generation citizen, then you are not welcome here and you should be removed from the country. Once and for all, draw a line in the sand with the white supremacists and nativists on one side and everyone else on the other. Then let the final battle begin.
What other fictional, make believe things would you like? If you rub your bong, maybe the Bong Genie will give you three wishes.
Jesus… and they call Trump delusional.
Trump is right – none of those women is sane enough to be given power – not unless you want to significantly accelerate the US collapse.
Noone in favor of income taxes, central banks, gun bans, activist judiciaries, standing armies, drug nor any other wars, and the rest of what makes up the progressive delusion; are sane enough to have any business having power in anything resembling a civilized society. There’s no meaningful difference between Trump and these clownettes on any matter which matter. They’re all nothing but an undifferentiated mass of turds, in the sewer that is the contemporary once-was-West. Picking favorites among them will never amount to anything more than a suckers game for the hopelessly indoctrinated.
The winner is the democratic party today. Trump keeps undermining himself at every turn. Attacking 3 US citizens should make every citizen what will he do next.
LOL! For a guy who is “undermining himself at every turn” he seems totally in charge. Poll numbers are at their highest, Russian collusion nonsense has been dispatched, the OIG report on illegalities getting FISA warrants is due anytime now.
They’re actually all citizens.
Yes, but are they American. Doubt that one of them has been to a Civil War battleground.
Trump doesn’t want Pelosi and AOC feud to boil over – he wants it to simmer until 2020 then it can boil over.
More like: Trump simply cannot stand anyone else getting attention for silly, childish mudfighting stunts; hence simply cannot help diving into the mudpond himself.
You can’t accept the subtle logic of Trump because he talks big and loudly. Trump plays people well, he allows their self-righteous indignation at what he says to blind them to the fact he is goading them into doing what he wants. It’s hilarious to watch.
Trumps comments should serve to calm the disputes in the Democratic Party, and unite them against him. I presume that is what Harbor is saying, that he doesn’t want the Democrats fighting now, he wants them to fight later? But, these comments will definitely hurt him with all minority voters, so they will be expensive, long term.
It doesn’t matter – if the Democrat party collapse under infighting then he has no strong Democrat to fight.
Meanwhile Rome burns.
Nothing burning in my town. Americans enjoy shouting and complaining in the same way that we enjoy fireworks and a boxing match. Oliver Wendell Holmes said it best: it is better to let citizen shout and holler than to suppress their grievances.
And in today’s news, Trump’s tweets have united the Democrats, and they are no longer warring. I presume that was what you thought the reason for the tweet was, to get them to stop fighting now, so that they can fight later?
I was thinking Trumps tweet had a lot of layers. 1) it keeps the Democrats together longer and the problem festers – it’s not solved 2) it makes the Democrat party get behind the crazy ones and Trump wants a crazy Democrat party 3) Trump continues to control the media
This drives a wedge into the core of the Democratic party, weakening them. Brilliant politics. POTUS election is won in the middle and the middle hates the radicals. Expect more triggering to come.
An effective response from the Dems would be “we are too busy for name calling, we are working on x, y and z legislation”.
Instead you get snowflake meltdowns which makes them look weak.
Causal Observer: Some nice ripe click bait. Something to do on a hot July afternoon in our beautiful country. For curiosity, inquire into what are fabulous four did during the 4th of July. Nothing new about the citizenship issue, it has come up many times in our history. Aaron Burr was accused of being a British agent.