Voters Send Messages to Democrats and Republicans: Is Anyone Listening?

Messages Sent, Is Anyone Listening?

Voters in Virginia and Minneapolis sent a message to Progressives with the election of Republican Glenn Youngkin over Terry McAuliffe. But that message will not be heard.

Nor will progressives heed the message in Minneapolis where a proposal to Replace Police with Peace Officers went down in flames by a 57:44 margin. 

Socialist Candidate and Only Person On Ballot Loses in Buffalo  

Another hoot for the day happened in the Buffalo New York Mayoral race. 

Self-described Progressive Socialist India Walton was the only person on the ballot and lost

The setup for the Buffalo race pitted Incumbent Mayor Byron Brown against Walton. He lost the primary and no Republicans were on the ballot. That made Walton the only official candidate for Mayor.

Brown ran a write-in campaign and defeated Walton with help of independents and Republicans.

Hello Socialists

Sensible people are fed up with “free” Socialist programs that turn out to not be “free”. 

Don’t expect that message to be heard. Instead, Progressives will whine about Senators Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.

Expect Bernie Sanders to double down on Medicare expansion, free school, etc., even though the system is broke.

But that’s not the only important message. 

The second key message is Youngkin distanced himself from Trump and won a race many expected him to lose outright, but especially with the huge turnout.

Turnout

Who Let This Happen?

Hello Republicans

The “Entirely plausible scenario is that GOP has a bunch of good outcomes in 2021/2022 without Trump but then nominates Trump anyway and has a bad 2024.”

That’s plausible but I stick with my opinion Trump will not run.

Instead, expect Trump to say something like this “I would win easily but …..[insert excuse not to run here].” 

Two Key Messages 

  1. Voters are sick of progressive issues including CRT, education, and other “free” programs.
  2. Republicans are far better off ignoring Trump

Youngkin smartly distanced himself from Trump, refusing to be seen with him.

Terry McAuliffe had nothing to offer but a fake message attempting to tie Youngkin to Trump. Voters smartly saw through it. 

TDS Type I and Type II

Half the country, if not more, has TDS of some kind. 

In TDS Type I, Trump can do no right. In Type II, Trump can do no wrong. 

Those with Type I TDS widely believe Russia stole the election for Trump in 2016. Those afflicted with Type II still believe Trump won in 2020.

Hillary blames Russia, not herself. Trump blames the media and election fraud. Both need to blame themselves. Neither is capable.

There were small irregularities in both elections but neither amounted to anything. The 2020 irregularities were not enough to turn a single state, let alone the number needed.

Yet, a huge number of people will believe anything Trump says just as huge numbers of Democrats believe nonsense from Rachel Maddow, CNN, the Slate, the New York Times or wherever.

With that, I’ve now taken a pot shot at both parties and fully expect inane rebuttal from those afflicted with Type I and Type II TDS.

Trump’s Revenge Tactics May Harm Republicans For Many Years

On January 25, I proposed Trump’s Revenge Tactics May Harm Republicans For Many Years

The pro-Trump faction is out for revenge. It will do Republicans no good.” 

If that message did not resonate when I said it, It sure should now.

Hostage Politics, Trump’s Ego Is All That Matter to Him

On October 17, I commented Hostage Politics, Trump’s Ego Is All That Matter to Him.

“If we don’t solve the Presidential Election Fraud of 2020 (which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented),” Mr. Trump said in a statement Wednesday, “Republicans will not be voting in ‘22 or ‘24. It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do.”

How seriously stupid is that? 

For starters, Trump conclusively and with zero reasonable doubt, lost. 

Second, even if one engages in election fantasies, sitting out elections in protest  would cost Republicans including the state of Virginia yesterday.

Election Fantasies

The Wall Street Journal accurately commented on October 14 …

Mr. Trump’s escalation is that he is now explicitly tying Republican acceptance of his election fantasy to a threat of electing Democrats as retribution. The message to Republicans is that if they don’t loudly pretend that he won the last election, Mr. Trump will make sure the GOP loses the next one, too.

With the Biden Administration’s polarizing overreach, the 2022 elections are an opportunity for the GOP to retake Congress and check the divisive progressive assault on the U.S. economy and law. But that was also true of the 2021 Georgia races. Mr. Trump may not be finished making his supporters pay for his narcissism.

Youngkin, Not Trump, Paves the Way

The single most important thing for Republicans to do is to ignore Trump. 

Trump demands loyalty to him over traditional Republican values. It’s a losing message.

The base is going nowhere. There is no need to appeal to them. Nor is there any reason to appeal to those who seriously believe Trump won. 

However, there is a huge need for Republicans to appeal to independents and swing voters.

Top Message of the Day

The top message of the day, thanks to Youngkin is simple: 

Ignore Trump, stick to traditional Republican values, and win in unexpected places.

Had Youngkin embraced Trump, I believe he would have lost.

Ignore means just that. Pretend Trump does not exist. Don’t engage him, encourage him, or mock him. Don’t appear on the stage with him. Walk around Trump as you would a homeless beggar in LA. 

Youngkin did that and unexpectedly won a race he was trailing by 9 points after McAuliffe made a stupid statement on education.

Republicans, please pay attention. Stick to winning messages and just let Trump be. 

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Lesley
Lesley
2 years ago

Thank you Mish! Best post I’ve read lately.

Republicans celebrating victory – go ahead and celebrate but tomorrow let’s please get back to the real work of repairing the Republican Party from the damage done by Trump. That’s not to say Trump didn’t enact some great policies – sadly his odious personality drowned out  achievements – alas topic for another day. As my Dad says “You cannot influence and antagonize at the same time.”

As a PR professional I’ve long said that Republican’s biggest issue is messaging. Who ever is leading communications for the RNC should be fired – zero communications strategy as far as I can tell. 

Newsflash: your Indians are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. And most Americans are no longer listening. I consider myself a conservative (albeit with a working brain) tuned into Fox the other day – 10 minutes and I couldn’t take it anymore. 

I believe myself to be a Christian. But I want to say to the Christian Right: Continue focusing on social issues and lose elections. Period. Take care of this stuff in your families, your churches, your communities, etc. Use your common sense: If a woman wants an abortion, she’ll figure out to get one regardless of whatever laws you enact (here’s looking at the stupidity of Texas.) And since homosexuality has existed since Jesus walked earth, it’s highly doubtful any legislation will prevent a gay couple from being gay. You are keeping the party from focusing on topics that win elections and thus far Dems do a phenomenal job of making you play defense.

To the “Never Biden” – Continue focusing on the past election and continue getting tuned out by key independent voters critical to rectifying all the wrongs of Biden’s administration. It’s been decided – no one likes listening to a poor loser.

To the confused – Continue fighting masks, vaccines, etc. (such tiny topics all considering) and continue to look dumber by the day.

To Republicans who want to win elections: Focus on economic issues. Arm your Indians with non-hysterical, factual talking points about Biden’s proposals and the costs and/or waste, and his administration will implode all by itself. Paying off illegal immigrants who got separated at the border and had to suffer the consequences – give us break. Seriously?! For every illegal Biden pays off, let’s donate same to an inner city public school.

Focus on the inane and costly proposals of Progressives while reminding American voters of the huge deficit we are running and win elections. 

Focus on messaging regarding healthcare and the rising costs of insurance. Continue the great work of the Trump administration: Focus on the costs of pharmaceuticals. Close the loopholes that allow hospitals to not list prices. 

Focus on Biden’s plans to raise taxes. And remind Americans how much they already pay in taxes – Federal tax, state tax, personal property tax, sales tax on most things you buy, tax on every gallon of gasoline put in your car, taxes on your monthly Internet, cell phone and landline bills, taxes on social security, alimony, scholarships and the list goes on and in some cases estate taxes on money your parents already paid taxes on. 

Ignore $600/now $10k income – insight into your bank accounts as that casts a net where the problem doesn’t exist – Join Joe Biden and close loopholes that allow the uber wealthy to evade taxes and win elections. 

Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
OT….great video here from nearly a year ago on energy. It was and I believe, remains prescient. This one is talks a lot about the MLP pipeline investments like the ones I’m trying to build for my portfolio. I still like these as long as the current tax laws don’t change too much. High yields plus tax deferral for high income earners…..this is what I look for in my own investments.
Cocoa
Cocoa
2 years ago
Trump has no media, tech outlet for whatever message he has. He won’t be invited to debates, tech will block him and info about him. He probably should be kingmaker and work on his social network instead. His son is more reasonable and could be a threat but Donald…nah.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
What I find interesting is that Edward Durr (R), a truck driver without political experience or financing whatsoever, taking down New Jersey State Senate President Steve Sweeney (D) who is the definition of a well-financed political operative and has been in in office for decades. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
This the guy who pent $153 on his campaign? Maybe he was big on social media?  Or maybe it was the “Anybody but Steve” vote. Phil Murphy almost lost, in a state with a million more registered Dems than Republicans.
Maybe it’s the anti-Biden backlash. I think that’s real…..and it has to be about “Build Back Better” or Afghanistan, or both. Biden is polling terribly.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T

He has a facebook page and spent about$2000 but what he did
was spend hours every day knocking on doors and talking to people and it paid
off. That is how campaigns were run in the old days. You meet enough people and
word get around.

I think that today money is too plentiful and if you throw
too much money into a campaigns most of it gets wasted and worse some gets into
the hands of truly stupid operatives that hurt rather than help. Take the
example of the Lincoln project people. They had been paid so they had to do
something to justify their salaries so they did something really stupid. The
same thing could be said of the Chinese army of consultants, experts and
speechwriters all having to come up with ideas even if they haven’t a clue.
When resources are scarce you have to choose wisely and look carefully who get
your money. Good ideas are very rare but when money is overabundant the good ideas
get smothered by the tidal wave of pure bullsheet most people on your staff
come up with.      

numike
numike
2 years ago
Why is it Wrong to Sell Your Body? Understanding Liberals’ vs. Conservatives’  link to journals.sagepub.com
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Still watching Zillow. It crept up a lot in the aftermarket, but the sellers are out in force this morning, I still think it might fill the gap, but I’m feeling risk averse after losing ten bucks.   🙂
numike
numike
2 years ago
It’s Not That Democrats Lost. It’s That They Lost Everywhere
In
an early vote of no-confidence in the Biden presidency, Republicans
made inroads among suburban and Hispanic voters, while expanding their
already long reach into rural precincts. link to governing.com
numike
numike
2 years ago
Beneath Striketober Fanfare, The Lower Frequencies of Class Struggle link to labornotes.org
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
“In 2020 many Republicans stayed home knowing Trump would lose.”
DJT lost Virginia both times, but in 2020 he received nearly 200K more votes than 2016.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
Yes.  Overall, Trump won more votes than any other *winning* Presidential candidate in any of the prior years.  
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Carville gets it.
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Saw that and he’s right. 
MSM this morning wouldn’t touch this … instead a parade of Democrat politicians blaming no movement on Progressive legislation.
Backassward.  In reality if populace wanted more of Progressive agenda they would vote for more Ds … not more Rs … to send message to pass legislation.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
That would be the case if the Ds did not have enough seats.   As far as the voters are concerned, the Ds have enough votes to pass anything and they have failed.   

Winning both the Georgia Senate seats in Jan 2021 was the worst thing that could have happened to the right-wing DONORcrats.  It exposed them for what they really are on economic issues.

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
“As far as the voters are concerned, the Ds have enough votes to pass anything and they have failed.”
True.  But remember Va is (was?) a Blue State … McAuliffe was waayyy ahead a few months ago … last month of campaign saw Obama + Biden campaigning in state.  Obama tv ads (sans McAuliffe)  nonstop.  Still lost.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
I have a friend who lives in the state.  He said that his D voter friends felt that all that Obama, Biden, McAuliffe et al could do was to talk, talk, talk.   

And the reason that McAuliffe was ahead a few months ago was that the voters still had hopes that the Ds would pass something that would help the average Americans.

Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
“And the reason that McAuliffe was ahead a few months ago was that the voters still had hopes that the Ds would pass something that would help the average Americans.”
No.  He was ahead because he had name recognition (and former Governor) and Youngkin complete unknown in a Blue State .  The typical voter doesn’t pay attention till after Labor Day.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
That could be true of most of his voters but the voters on the margin are different.   
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Virginia had a big turnout.  500K more votes cast than in 2017 governor’s race.  McAuliffe received 500K more votes in 2021 than he did in 2013 when he won.  Youngkin got 500K more votes than Republican candidate in 2017.  This wasn’t just voters on margin / independents breaking Youngkin’s way.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
The Rs had 300K fewer voters than last year.   But the Ds had 800K fewer voters than from a year ago.   A lot of the voters who stayed out were progressives who saw no reason to vote for a BJ Clinton guy being sold to them by the same old DONORcrats Obama and Biden (who has delivered on his “nothing will fundamentally change” pledge).   
Tony Bennett
Tony Bennett
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
Apples to Apples
You can’t compare an election year for POTUS (along with House Members and Senators) with off year Governor’s race.  Of course, POTUS election year biggest voter draw.  Plus some years have ballot referendums that draw voters.  None this year in Virginia.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Bennett
I am comparing apples to apples i.e. how much the numbers fell.  It fell by only 300K for the Rs but collapsed by 800K for the Ds.   A number of 400K to 500K would have been understandable.   In the end, that 300K-400K loss made all the difference.  
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
He gets it but he won’t be listened to. He is of the old guard and the party he knew no longer exists.
The new look is here:
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I think you’re right. Morons.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
I don’t know if there was cheating in 2020, but Trump was vindicated in 2016 by the Mueller investigation, which went far beyond looking at voting irregularities. They desperately tried to dig up anything on Trump and failed. In 2020, the democrats are ardently against any investigation. If they’re completely innocent, wouldn’t they welcome an investigation to prove their innocence like Trump did?
I think this will carry into 2022 and the dems will lose the senate and probably the house. I’m not so sure about 2024. They have plenty of time to change course and erase their past statements. I think there’s almost no chance Trump runs in 2024. I think one of the republican governors will get the nod.
A big problem the democrats have is the most ardent socialists are in safe districts for them. They will never be voted out, so they have no fear of going too far or cooperating in any way.
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Remember when companies had earnings? As virtue-signaling college endowments continue to divest from the nasty fossil fuels that built their campuses, oil companies are booking a whole lot of profits.
TCW
TCW
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Thanks!
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
The one mistake which will cause “The base” of Republicans to go somewhere, is to go any further than already done down the supposedly “reasonable” gun control path. Vs a Gun grabber, even Trump is a sure bet in primaries. Not sure about Mullah Omar himself, but anyone who differs from that even only in outward choice of religion, sure. Guns are a bright red line in the sand. Viewed as the last remaining vestige of Americans’ once-was freedom. Everything else of which has been already stolen and socially engineered away. Their guns are literally the only thing large numbers of “the base” still have to hold on to. Anyone wanting to take even those away, thereby removing the last remaining illusion that they are no longer simply captive chattel existing solely as livestock for the leeching classes’ amusement, will have to pry them from their cold, dead hands.
amigator
amigator
2 years ago
Someone needs to tell CNN and MSNBC that Trump did not win.  I turn on those stations they are still bitching about Trump. It’s about the same as when he was President!
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  amigator
That and Jan 6th are the only thing they have. And their ratings show many are sick of it.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  amigator
He made the media so much money with his antics and tantrums. They miss him badly.
Jojo
Jojo
2 years ago
Another reason that the Republicans’ are going to retake both sides of Congress is many are tired of the Covid nannyism, Covid vaccine mandates and general Covid scaremongering.
The only way to end the Covid scaremongering and get back to normal is to displace the Dems. 
For a start, the CDC needs to be reconstituted with competent people.  The FDA needs to be prohibited from taking payments from the drug companies they oversee.  OSHA needs to be forbidden from considering anything health related as under the guise of workplace safety.  Anyone forced out of their job due to Covid vaccine mandates needs to be rehired with full back pay.  And last but not least, Fauci needs to be fired.  This is part of the platform I am hoping to see from Republican Congress/2024 presidential candidates.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
First off, McAuliffe’s defeat was no vote against progressives given his complete lack of progressive policies, not just now but over the decades and decades of association with his right-wing centrist leader  BJ Clinton.   Second, in the Brown v Walton race, Brown had tons of money from corporate sources (he has been mayor forever and has tons of connections) and his campaign was never really about her or his economic views or policies but rather scaremongering about this or that or the other.  Third, progressives like Sanders don’t dwell much on social issues while the DONORcrat politicians do it, and they have to do it because their actual economic policies (not what they talk, but what they actually do) is almost indistinguishable from those of the Republicans – just look at how their “raising taxes on the rich” has now morphed into restoring the SALT deductions (even retroactively) for the top 5% of the population.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
The CRT thing stuck and McAuliffes gaffes killed him. Most people don’t like the drama and the other guy came off as folksy and normal and stayed away from Trump. Dems have a big problem because of the leadership void. 
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
“Folksy and normal” aka populist.   Trump ran on the populist message of undoing trade deals like NAFTA, bringing back jobs, providing health insurance to all and so on.   This was at the same time the DONORcrat Obama was running around everywhere, campaigning for the TPP!    Of course, it was another matter that Trump was lying through his teeth.
Senator Josh Hawley just published an op-ed in The New York Times calling for “a reversal of the Reagan/Clinton neoliberal “free trade” agenda.

“Now we must change course,” link to nytimes.com.  “We can rebuild what made this nation great in the first place by making things in America again.”  As Bob Dylan once said, it doesn’t take a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.”

Youngkin ran on repealing the state’s grocery tax, which is a highly regressive tax.  McAuliffe has never done anything about it. So, who is the populist among the two?   

In a nation that is so dangerously imbalanced in terms of income and wealth, populism is a natural outcome.  The only question is what kind of populism will prevail – the right-wing brand of populism that is non-inclusive and divisive, or the left-wing brand that is inclusive.   The actions of the right-wing DONORcrat Party in squashing the left-wing populist elements will lead us straight to the former.   
amigator
amigator
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
It’s virtually impossible for a Governor to promote progressive policies. They can not print money and therefore have to sort of balance the budget. The progressives policies and balanced budgets are on opposite ends of the spectrum. 
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  amigator
So, you would say that Newsom cannot promote any progressive policies at all because he is just a Governor of a state?!  
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
What’s truly sad indictment of humanity, is that people; despite, even, centuries of obvious empirical evidence should the underlying principles and deductions prove too great a hurdle of logic for some; still remain so economically illiterate, that they don’t understand something so fundamental as government services and policies, just like every other good, is, tah-dah, also sold to those who pay for it. Not, magically, to those who don’t. Now, who could have thought?
As long as government has the power to sell anything, “the rich” will be able to buy more of it than “the poor.” Duh!
Ergo: No matter how it is packaged and sold to willing dupes by The Man on TeeVee: Government redistribution will always  be from the poor, to the rich. Never, ever, the other way. Hence, if you want “the rich” to take less from the poor, the only way to achieve that, is to reduce the ABILITY (NOT the willingness, since there will always be willingness to sell something to those who can pay the highest) of government to redistribute.
It ain’t harder than that. Sadly even that seems too hard for the captive indoctriati.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  StukiMoi
Well, a “small” government that is under the thumb of the corporations and the super-rich will still do the bidding of the corporations and the super-rich.  It just won’t be doing anything for the others.
StukiMoi
StukiMoi
2 years ago
Reply to  whirlaway
The smaller and less effectual government is, the less redistribution, to those paying for it from the rest, it can, hence will, do.
Also, it’s hard work getting and remaining “super-rich,” unless the cost of protecting all your stuff is, at the point of a totalitarian government’s guns, forced to be borne by someone else. At the very limit of small government, how the heck would an 80 year old Ted Turner defend all those acres all by himself? That’s a lot of land to keep an eye out for, for an old man and his rifle….
And even if government is a little bigger than that, to the point where it can afford some sort of courts and cops to relieve people of 24hr sandbag duty, someone still has to pay for that. And it certainly makes less than zero sense, if those someones should end up being someone other than those with something they want protected. Ergo, still hard for that octogenarian to keep all those highly prized and contested acres to himself…..
It’s only once government grows and degenerates into “I own it, but you have to pay ‘tax’ to protect it,” that you end up with the silly totalitarian distortions which have been so successfully employed to sucker those who think of themself as “the left” into supporting ever bigger government able to redistribute ever more to those who pay for 1) politicians’ campaigns and 2) to put their kids in the same schools as politicians’ put theirs in.
Regardless, for anyone whining about lack of “equality”: Keep shrinking government and you’ll get there. Keep growing government, and you’ll just get further and further away. Which I suppose suits those more concerned about preening around being “labor activists” at society balls, than about the people doing actual labor, just fine.
yooj
yooj
2 years ago
Poor homeless beggar  in LA, to be compared to Trump. 
njbr
njbr
2 years ago
Only obvious ill health will prevent Trump from running for 2024.   His ego demands it.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  njbr
Agree but by then he may not need to run or will be hamstrung by the legal jeopardy he will be in. I see more Republicants ready to move on. 2024 is a long time away. There is an election everyday in America.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Another excellent article, Mish. I agree with you completely. Republicans became a majority back in 1980, and have stayed that way ever since. It took DJT to lose not only the Presidency, but also both house of Congress. Last night showed that if Trump stays out of the picture, Republicans can run on the issues and win. If he stays out of the picture, Republicans will certainly win back at least one house of Congress, and likely both. Will he stay out of the picture?
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Carl_R
Did you forget who was in charge of both houses and the white house for 6 of the 8 years before the great financial crisis ? With Republicans we get crisis after crisis. I don’t know the future but I see a crisis if Republicans are in charge. They love the drama and the attention. 
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
No love lost for Mcaullife but the last 2 years of Democratic control of government in Virginia have been by far the best two years for freedom in my lifetime.  I just hope we don’t go backwards here in Virginia and most importantly keep that would be tyrant and coup leader out of office.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Another thing I noticed about how voter behavior has changed is that they are paying much more attention to primaries than before. That’s bad news for the woods and those who support them. The NYC primary had a record number of voters who submerged the woke candidates to elect one of the few definitely unwoke Democrats.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
For the woke I ment to say, not the woods
shamrock
shamrock
2 years ago
Either candidate for governor in Virginia would have won in a landslide if they had just promised to eliminate the car tax, an annual levy of 4.5% of the value of cars and trucks you own.  P.S. the amount of the tax usually goes down by 10% a year because the car depreciates, not this year as we were treated with 10% increases. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  shamrock
The money has to come from somewhere. if they eliminated the car tax, they would raise property or sales taxes to compensate.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
Or you could say cut some expenditure by that amount. That’s what regular people do.
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Politicians are not regular people!

(Also remember, corporations are special people).

Business Man
Business Man
2 years ago
I don’t think this is right.  I don’t believe that half the country has TDS II, as you call it.  I think there are many people who “held their noses” and voted for him, understanding him as a less than ideal candidate who is far better than the communists that want to overtake him.
Yes, there are a core group that love Trump, but they are smaller than those that just like his policies and agitation of the Left.
And yes, Democrats are communists.  They want to centrally plan the economy, and they would be perfectly content with controlling all inputs and outputs in our economy.  The only problem is that they realize how much work is involved with running a business, so they want to have nothing to do with that (see Pete Buttigieg), and wish to just “decree” that we obey their wishes as needed.
Well, as we are seeing, that doesn’t work so well.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
If Ed Durr wins in NJ state senate race, now that would be a real upset. 
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
A name like Durrrrrr is exactly the representation that’s appropriate for our derpy population.
threeblindmice
threeblindmice
2 years ago
one of your best posts.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Mish you missed a great opportunity to link in a relevant song (as you sometimes do). May I suggest ‘Genesis – No Reply At All’. Seems apt for the fact that Politicians don’t seem to be listening at all to us middle class people.
Both parties desperately need some new blood in 2024. Ideally someone under the age of 60 who is a centrist. If either party ran such a candidate they’d win handily. But will either one even try to do so.
I’m with you on Trump. No way he runs in 2024. It may only be 3 years away but in reality it’s 7 years if he got elected. He’d be in his early 80’s by the time he finished office and predicting his health and mental state that far out is a fools errand. And if Biden turns totally senile over the next 3 years and has to be replaced at some point it’s even less likely voters would elect another really old person.
Business Man
Business Man
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
Agreed.  To prove a point, I have searched within myself to see if there are any Democrats I could ever like for President.  And, to be honest, I like Tulsi Gabbard.  I don’t agree with her on everything, but I could live with her as a Democrat and not have a visceral dislike for her ethics and intentions to “fundamentally transform my culture” into something alien and foreign to me.
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  Business Man
I like her too, but there’s no way she would get the nomination. She tells the truth way too much for their liking.
Jmurr
Jmurr
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
It’s time for the boomers to exit stage left from leadership positions around the globe. 
KidHorn
KidHorn
2 years ago
Reply to  TexasTim65
It’s going to be Kamala. A woman of color president would be a dream come true for the democrats.
And when she loses they’ll say it’s because the US is racist and sexist.
TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
Reply to  KidHorn
I don’t believe it’s going to be her. She’s been invisible for the past year minus totally bungling the border crisis she was sent to oversee.
If she was the ‘chosen one’ they’d have her all over the news all the time by giving her layup jobs/projects to oversee so she could look good. Does that appear to be happening to you?
davebarnes2
davebarnes2
2 years ago
Tell me where—in public k-12 schools—Critical Race Theory is being taught.
threeblindmice
threeblindmice
2 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2
Stop.  Just stop.  We’re not stupid.  
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2
Officially?   No where.
Unofficially?  Everywhere.  

Seriously, CRT is everywhere, promoted by Progressive teachers, by the media, by universities.

It’s everywhere.

Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  dbannist
CRT is indeed everywhere in strong Blue states 
But of course, they don’t “teach it”
They just eat it, breathe it, preach it, and antagonize or get rid of any administrators who do not go along with the act. 
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Seems like full on paranoia. Do you even have kids in any secondary school anymore? I live in middle of the road place in California and CRT is nowhere to be found anywhere in public school curriculum around here. 
dbannist
dbannist
2 years ago
It’s everywhere where I am.

It’s in the media, the schools, my tenants all believe it, companies around me are making policies promoting it.

You don’t have to promote it in schools.  The media is doing a pretty good job already.

TexasTim65
TexasTim65
2 years ago
It’s here in South Florida in my daughter school (grade 8) and parents including us have been complaining. So the governor has banned it.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish

You’ve got CRT Derangement  Syndrome. It’s under every rock, and behind every tree!

whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Hit.  Nail.  Head.   Thanks!
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
That is where the NEA plans for it to be, under New Business Item 39.
If it doesn’t exist, why doesn’t the NEA just support outlawing it in schools, so that it can’t?
Business Man
Business Man
2 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2
One thing the Left is very good at is changing definitions of words and creating new euphemisms for bad ideas.  They are also very good at doing it quickly.  They pride themselves on their ability to manipulate the media and to create “optics.”  In short, they are professional bulls**t artists.
So what was once — not so long ago — “Critical Race Theory”, became “Anti-Racism”.  And it has been called “Cultural Sensitivity Training”.  Anti-bias training.  Anti-Meritocracy.  Centering or De-centering.  Unconscious Bias.  Critical pedagogy.  Cultural Appropriation (my favorite absurdity).   Cultural Awareness.  Culturally Responsive Practices.  Decentering Whiteness.  Diversity Training.  Educational justice.  Institutional bias.  Intersectionality.  Multiculturalism.   Patriarchy.  Racial healing.  Reflective exercises.  Structural inequity.  White privilege.  Whiteness.
All of these terms are uttered by administrators, teachers and academics within the school system every week at every school.
I’ll bet every person that reads this comment has heard every single one of these words.  That’s how mainstream this stuff is, so please stop pretending to look around and act like we are all seeing ghosts.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Business Man
Full on paranoia. Clowns to the left of me jokers to right. 
Business Man
Business Man
2 years ago
You are absolutely correct.  There is nothing to be paranoid about.  Everything is as it appears and as the media instructs you.
What bliss.
Zardoz
Zardoz
2 years ago
Reply to  Business Man
Where did you hear about CRT from, if not the media instructing you? Anything you hear about second hand should be suspect, and anything from a screen triply so.  You accept it uncritically because it feeds into your victim complex.
Business Man
Business Man
2 years ago
Reply to  Zardoz
Ha.  One thing I am not is a victim.  I take full responsibility for everything that happens to me, and I take charge of it.  That is why I am doing just fine.  It is also why I have a very thick skin.
I get my information from School Board meeting videos and correspondence, both nationally and locally.  I’m involved in that arena, because it is important to me.  I get it by viewing direct evidence of training materials and the correspondence of teacher’s unions, administrators and corporations.  Before CRT was a flashpoint, the Left proudly virtue signaled their desire and action to disseminate this poison into all of our institutions.  Now, they are quietly Memory Holing it so that we conservatives can be accused of “seeing ghosts” everywhere.
Most recently, CRT has been on School Board websites.  Virginia, because it was in the news recently, had it in their Education website in 2015.  These are facts, not conjecture.
CRT takes many forms, but the theory–downstream–is disguised in the form of many things I previously mentioned (see my note above).  The Left understands that most of its ideas are anathema to normal people who just want to be left alone to enjoy their lives.  The Left is constantly scolding and trying to control how we live.  The Left is comprised of a bunch of naive busybody, virtue signaling Karens who are only interested in what everyone else is doing and how they can change it. 
Conservatives just want to be left alone and enjoy their lives and work.  What we will NOT stand for, however–and will fight back mercilessly–is your indoctrination of our children into your BS theories and way of life.  Keep it to yourself and go about your business, and stay out of mine.
RonJ
RonJ
2 years ago
Full on self denial of reality on your part.
EGW
EGW
2 years ago
Reply to  davebarnes2
If they are teaching anything besides Math, English, Science, and other core concepts then they are teaching the wrong stuff.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  EGW
Consider that since the signing of the original Humanist Manifesto in 1933, there has been a drive to replace education with political indoctrination in state supported schools. While it has taken a few generations, it has been largely successful. Schools now focus on cultural theories, but perform very poorly compared to other industrialized countries in teaching core skills like math and science.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Disgust with the Democrats all around is what is winning with the electorate. Before Trump the resistance against the woke was inchoate
but he by pointing out the obvious made it became fully formed like water supercooled
to below freezing requires just one tiny movement to suddenly transform into
ice. The ice is set now and there is no need for Trump to spearhead the resistance against the woke and the other asinine policies of the Democrats because there are many others now picking up the torch. Does Trump know this? Yes he does. He won’t run because he doesn’t need to. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78
I sure hope both you and Mish are right about Trump declining to run again. All I can say is that if he wants the nomination, he is likely to get it. I’m not nearly as sure as Nate Silver that he wouldn’t go on to win another term.
I like the ice metaphor.
Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
Glad you liked the metaphor Eddie.
Carl_R
Carl_R
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
If Trump runs again, most likely he will get the nomination, and the result will be predictable. People will hold their noses and vote for a socialist if the alternative is a fascist. I hope he doesn’t run again, as we don’t need more socialsim, but then, I hoped he wouldn’t sabotage the Georgia Senate races, so that we wouldn’t be where we are today, but, he did, and here we are.
yooj
yooj
2 years ago
Reply to  Doug78

Yes, he will gracefully step aside now, like Washington. Country first, as always. No doubt Trump’s concern about the election  must have been before he experienced the epiphany that His Work Here Is Done. BTW, your use of metaphor “picking up the torch”  is, under the circumstances, ill-advised. 

Doug78
Doug78
2 years ago
Reply to  yooj
Since you obviously don’t know what this metaphor means you took offense assuming it meant something else. It alludes to ancient Greek foot relay races where they passed a torch to one another probably for the great visual effects . The metaphor is about the passing of leadership and not about burning buildings or violence in general so you see the metaphor is good and describes the situation. Now you know what it means and can use it correctly sparing yourself embarrassment in future conversations. 
Eddie_T
Eddie_T
2 years ago
AFAIK….I discovered that Donald J. Trump existed in about 1975….and since then I’ve always thought he was a jerk and a con artist. But I don’t think the Russians were why he won I 2016. It’s exactly what you pointed out…..the Democratic Party had (and still has) a crappy platform centered on identity politics, political correctness, and handing out free sh*t.
Kudos to Youngkin for a good campaign. It remains to be seen how good a governor he is. I expect he will be better than Macauliffe. Not a high bar to have to rise above.
I expect most Republicans to keep kissing Trump’s butt and trying to copy his style. In Texas that still seems to be the prevailing strategy. They don’t show much sign of changing as of yet.But  I still expect them to keep beating Democrats. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel. Anybody who thinks Beto O’Rourke can beat Abbott is mistaken. The stars won’t line up for that one. Matthew McConaughey could win, but like most smart celebrities,I think he’s realized it isn’t a job he really wants after all. 
I do like Democrat Matthew Dowd’s campaign so far to try to unseat Dan Patrick, who is arguable the worst Lt. Gov we’ve had since Reconstruction. It remains to be seen if he can bring out the vote. He is running on ethics in politics, always a risky gambit.
Mish
Mish
2 years ago
Reply to  Eddie_T
“I expect most Republicans to keep kissing Trump’s butt and trying to copy his style. In Texas that still seems to be the prevailing strategy. They don’t show much sign of changing as of yet.But  I still expect them to keep beating Democrats. It’s like shooting fish in a barrel.”
Agreed.
And in California any Democrat can say the stupidest things and still win. 
The problems are always the swing states: Wisconsin, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania
Trump offended enough people to lose.
Trump won because he was not Hillary – Indeed, I believe she may have been the only person he could beat
Biden won because he was not Trump
Biden ran as a moderate but Build Back Better is the biggest Socialist pile of sheet in history.
Casual_Observer2020
Casual_Observer2020
2 years ago
Reply to  Mish
Build Back Better was a slogan and nothing more. Like Make America Great Again. I see very little that Biden has embraced as Socialist. Nothing has changed much in 9 or 10 months. Having an election cycle every year is like having an election every day. This has gotten worse over time with nothing meaningful getting done because the next election is just a day away as people vote on social media. This is what America has become. 
whirlaway
whirlaway
2 years ago
“Nothing has changed much in 9 or 10 months. “

So that means Joe Biden’s promise that “Nothing would fundamentally change” has been successfully accomplished?!   

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