Revenge Inspired Meltdown
An Arizona Republican Meltdown inspired by demands for revenge is underway.
Republicans lost Arizona in the November presidential race for the first time since 1996, and they have lost three U.S. Senate races in a row. How to respond? Naturally, Arizona’s Republican Party decided on the weekend to censure three of its most prominent fellow Republicans.
The state party’s committee members, led by chairwoman Kelli Ward, passed resolutions rebuking Cindy McCain, the widow of former Sen. John McCain; former Sen. Jeff Flake; and even current Gov. Doug Ducey.
Mr. Trump, now decamped to Mar-a-Lago, is contemplating revenge against everyone in the GOP he blames for his defeat. He blames Mr. Ducey for not challenging Arizona’s electoral votes for Joe Biden, though the Governor had no legal grounds for doing so.
The attack on Mr. Ducey is simply bizarre. The Governor has a strong conservative record and will finish his second term in 2022. Why would Mr. Ducey run if his own party members are attacking him? Sure enough, he said this weekend he has no interest in running for the Senate.
If Republicans want to keep losing elections, they’ll keep fighting over 2020 and Donald Trump instead of looking to the future.
The Cult Wants Revenge
The Trump cult wants revenge. Even Karl Rove now refers to Trump’s followers as the cult.
The Republican party needs to move on, but the cult would rather have a civil war, damn the consequences.
Why?
Trump is washed up, finished, through. He lost in 2020 for one and only one reason: Enough of the country despised him.
Trump will still be as despised four years from now, only four years older, age 78.
Where’s Trump going besides nowhere? And that even assumes he is not convicted in the impeachment trial.
Meanwhile, those wanting revenge or an outright civil war need to ask themselves “What good it can possibly do?”
In his farewell speech, Trump said he will be back in ‘some form’. It will do neither him, nor the party any good.
Mish
Scanning the news today, it looks like the party of Coolidge and Reagan that handed out “Character Matters” bumper stickers in 1992 to fight Bill Clinton’s journey to the White House is doubling down in their support of Donald Trump.
I have often wondered what exactly the Trumpster wanted and I have concluded they want a white Christian nation with women back in the kitchen, gays back in the closet, dark skinned minorities to know their place and a white man as the boss and they are willing to burn down everything to have what they want.
It’s a hodgepodge of slightly different groups that have some overlap. Tea Party people, Pro-life Evangelicals and Catholics, working class whites who resented Affirmative Action…and now have BLM and their Antifa cousins….they make a nice target.
A thing many liberals don’t get…..is that these people see right through the hypocrisy of the Democrats, with their slavish devotion to identity politics and now anti-racism. The white working class got sold out by the Democrats…who did that because their donor class felt that the working class was costing them too much…and so they turned to all the “special” groups……any group that can claim discrimination, ethnic minorities, women, LGBTQ…they now all have special rights…..so the white people, who are NOT the privileged whites, btw, see that and feel screwed. It isn’t that hard to understand.
As someone who participated in Tea Party rallies, I note the Tea Party must have either been selectively outraged about trillion dollar deficits and new taxes noting they didn’t express much concern about either when Trump was pushing them, or they were really angry a black man was in office. I hate to say that you but as a former Tea Partier they look quite hypocritical noting they never called Trump out on tariffs, the bailouts, the $8 trillion in new debt, or the free handouts including the stimulus checks.
I didn’t shift for Trump. What I was critical of when Obama was president, I was critical of Trump as well.
Too many ignorant, lack of knowledge, closed minds Americans obviously appeared here.
Few research to understand, and that’s the reason US will fall into communist regime.
The Patriot party will appear and appeal to many Americans as the 2 party Democrat and Republican do not reflect what America needs: stop homeless, stop biological weapon like COVID-19, stop increasing poverty, stop illegal, criminal immigrants like MS-13 etc.
In the mean time, you will pay for what is coming, and the worst will be with new kind of disease released from China, wait and see !
The scary thing for me is that such a large number of Republican voters were fully on board with Trump’s racist behavior and views. Republican presidential candidates in 2024 will be sorely tempted to tap into this pool of voters. Does not bode well for the next election.
Without a doubt. Why do you think Ted Cruz went from being angry that Trump lied about his father and insulted his wife’s appearance to getting on his knees for Trump.
Pretty good autopsy of the Trump Presidency’s accomplishments and the mistakes.
Mallen Baker comes as close to being fair-minded as any analyst I know…..I like his take on a variety of subjects, most notably climate…….This video might come across to some as too pro-Trump…..but as a Trump hater myself, I want to hear an opinion that might be more fairminded than my own. Plus, Mallen is not a local boy.
I always love Trump supporters need a bulleted list or other people to tell us what Trump did. When Reagan left office, we didn’t need that. We saw it all around us, especially as the Berlin Wall fell. Clearly if you need to be told, there are doubts.
Once voters understand Biden’s new Open Borders Policy: Amnesty for all and allowing all new border crossers to stay in US permanently. Well all those wealthy enclaves in California, Texas, and Colorado will move in waves against the Democrats. The Biden Caravan Tide is coming.
The dirty little secret is you and Washington needs immigrants more than you let on. Social programs like Social Security are facing a bleak future as America’s birth rate continues to fall. The way the program was set up is it needs lots of tax mules at the bottom of the pyramid. Since American’s have reduced their successful procreation activities, we are going to have to look to new tax slaves from other places to pay into the fund.
Two things Trump will do…
First, milk as much money from his marks, err “faithful patriots” as possible.
Second, work toward creating a Trump coronation as soon as possible. I think his delusions about himself and America are such that he no longer wants to have to deal with elections or laws.
The problems for Republicans is that they are the marks and tools of his dreams.
A fool and his money are soon parted. Trump should be able to take his supporters for a small fortune.
As an Australian watching this I cannot understand why the Republican Party continues to cower at Trumps threats. He is a bully and if you value your sanity and realise that bullies cannot win if you treat them as such, they will lose. I think some bravery is required here on the part of politicians.
As far as I am concerned, the Republican Party is entirely to blame for the events of January 6th – including the 4 deaths that resulted. The spineless Republican Party failed to stand up to Trump and tell America the truth – that there is absolutely no evidence of election fraud. Not one single court case that the Trump team pursued alleged any kind of election fraud. It is sad that even now, when they have a chance to excise the “cancer” from within their own party, they scream about unifying the country. Where were they on unifying the country while Trump screamed election fraud. As a registered Republican, I am absolutely appalled at the shamelessness of the majority of the elected Republican senators and congressional representatives.
Unification is misunderstood IMO, and seems to be understood differently by each party. It doesn’t mean that both parties compromise everything away, or that the new majority party adopts the minority parties’ positions.
It starts with acknowledgement of things that have gotten out of hand, including apologies and accountability from those who tried to overthrow our democratic republic and just possibly kidnap and kill politicians they didn’t like just recently. That goes for those who don’t disown the Michigan vigilantes who tried to kidnap their governor too, not just the vigilantes who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6.
It is also on Democrats to not just try to push through everything with zero acknowledgement that there is another side. But it is also on the republicans to not try to obstruct everything that the majority party Dems try (see McConnell, Mitch). It is very much about stopping ridiculous lies that counter all available evidence and facts and pretending very publicly to a gullible set of voters that this propaganda is true.
The ultimate goal of unity is to bring enough reasonable benefits that are desired to a majority of constituents, of all ages, genders, races, and beliefs in a democratic society, whether they vote D or R.
It is not about the opposing politicians kissing up to each other and playing nice or compromising on everything, especially when there is a lot of bad faith and sedition going around. There’s a need to listen and counter respectfully, but not a need to bow down.
Pretty good article on Dark Money. It tells me Big Tech has nothing to worry about.
Future Forward PAC, a super-PAC that spent $104 million backing Biden, got $46.9 million from Facebook Inc. co-founder Dustin Moskovitz, $3 million from Twilio Inc. Chief Executive Officer Jeff Lawson and $2.6 million from Eric Schmidt of Alphabet Inc, the parent company of Google. But its biggest source of funds was its sister nonprofit, Future Forward USA Action, which contributed $61 million. The names of those who put up the $61 million don’t have to be disclosed.
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, a Rhode Island Democrat, has blamed dark money for persuading Republicans to block legislation to address climate change and assuring judges who share their views are appointed to the courts.
“Dark money is toxic to democracy — period,” Whitehouse said in a statement. “The fact that progressive groups have learned to fight back using similar tactics is no excuse for continuing the plague of dark money in America.”
Not sure I agree. I thought Republicans were done after Bush 2, up til then the most disastrous and incompetent presidency of my lifetime – and yet they bounced back pretty quickly, just as they bounced back quickly from Nixon. There will be short term disarray like with every party that is totally out of power.
The Republican party is toxic irregardless of Trump.
I am so done with Senator Paul. He is a liar. I watched day after day of his claims Trump got us out of the endless wars as he clearly knows Trump fought him on Saudi arms sales, the Congressional resolution passed in both houses to pull troops out of Yemen which Trump vetoed, etc. Rand Paul is so hungry for power he sacrificed his core values (or what he claimed to be) in order to romance Trump’s cult. https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/23/rand-paul-saudi-arabia-arms-sales-238730
I don’t really get Rand Paul.
He’s just another establishment Republican who ran for president warning us of the dangers of Donald Trump only to embrace Trump in hopes of having a chance to succeed in future Republican presidential primaries. Clearly he’s not concerned about the Constitution in his lack of calling out Trump for taking over the power of the purse to build a wall. Any strict Constitutionalist would understand the dangers of such an effort.
nzyank, you’re not telling the truth. Paul called for investigation to make sure if anything happened or not. Read the article.
Bungalow, why is Paul a liar? Please explain. He cheered for Trump not starting wars, and so do I. Your article shows that he is consistent.
Interestingly, there is only 3 minutes between these two comments and the second would take a few minutes to type, find the article etc… I’m not sure of course, but it looks to me as if someone paid 1200 rupees to put 100 negative comments about Paul. Who is that someone?
Go back and read his tweets. He claimed Trump ended endless wars. There’s far more to Paul’s words than where you stopped. Rand Paul went on a tweet storm a few times making claims about Trump he simply could not back up.
The Paul family are cranks without effect. Gears disconnected from a chain.
Mish, you say that like it’s a bad thing.
Washington warned of the dangers of political parties.
Eisenhower warned about the the dangers of the Military-Industrial CONGRESSIONAL Complex (as originally written.)
The country would be better off picking random names out of a phone book for candidates, as Buckley said.
My friend Mike Phillips, who wrote The Seven Laws of Money, also wrote a book called A Citizen Legislature, which detailed how much better we could run the country if political service was run kinda like jury selection.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K5HYQTY/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i3
Needless to say, the idea never got much traction. Just posted this as an amusing historical anecdote.
The Arizona GOP as an organization has proven themselves to be a horse’s ass! I mean think of the insults Donald Trump launched at John McCain (who I am not a fan of) that include even McCain’s military service, and they want Cindy McCain to smile and act like none of that ever happened and just follow the herd mentality that is Trumpism.
Watching these people rant and rave on various forms and the hate and anger in their hearts that even reduce “Mike Pence” to liberal status in their need to support an elected king is going to set back the Republican cause for a long time. These people are deplorable in so many ways as they are nothing more than sheep following their corrupt shepherd, Donald Trump. Even watching my mom’s Facebook feed, she has nothing but hate in her heart for anyone who doesn’t support Trump.
19th century philosopher John Stuart Mill had a good explanation for why Trump supporters behave as they do:
So long as opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses instability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it. For if it were accepted as a result of argument, the refutation of the argument might shake the solidity of the conviction; but when it rests solely on feeling, worse it fares in argumentative contest, the more persuaded adherents are that their feeling must have some deeper ground, which the arguments do not reach; and while the feeling remains, it is always throwing up fresh intrenchments of argument to repair any breach made in the old.
And social media amounts to a “feeling driven political position” multiplier. I wonder what a genius like Mill would say about Facebook and Twitter.
Great quote, btw.
Kind of like religion. Like a cult.
The demise of either party in this duopoly seems rather unlikely. As long as the country survives (intact) so does the red/blue system.
That said, the Repubs do face a real conundrum. For decades they’ve paid lip service to social conservatism while devoting nearly all their energy to serving banks and corporations. They face attacks on two fronts now since the voters are more insistent on being heard and corporate America is leaning more and more blue apart from the energy industry. Banks are happy with either party, but as we’ve seen with big tech, large corps now seem to favor the Dems.
If the GOP decides to give up on corporate donors to focus on social conservatism, they’d have to rely on individual donations in the midst of a lousy economy. They won’t want to do that, so they’ll try to stick with the status quo while voters get ever angrier. Grab your popcorn!
That conundrum is exactly why the people that support Trump do so with such fervor – they see that the GOP has failed them while paying lip service to a few key emotion peddling issues. Trump already was his own crypto-third party in 2016.
Is there any way to get rid of both parties and still have a government? All they do is attack each other ad infinitum. Neither party is looking out for the interests of the country. How to achieve a new form of government without violence is the conundrum. I know one thing. Our present form of government is not working.
Pretty spot-on post, I would just change the title to:
“Trump’s Revenge Tactics WILL Harm Republicans For Many Years”
Well, I certainly hope you are right and that Mr. Trump is finished.
That being said, after witnessing the dot com and housing bubbles, I was pretty sure that the market would never, ever have done anything as bizarre and reckless ever again. Yet here we are, only bigger.
Look at all the organizations and businesses Trump has ruined over the years.
What did Republicans expect?
They made a deal with the devil for some temporary power, and now the bill is due. The cost will be a decade or more in the political wilderness.
Trump was a Trojan Horse, gifted to the Republicans by the Democrats.
I don’t think so, really.
Trump was the inevitable result of decades of Republican degeneracy and indecency. The ultimate culmination of the Southern Strategy.
And in the wake of his decisive loss, it appears the GOP is doubling down on him, which means they’re doomed to permanent minority status and increasingly irrelevant to the diversifying American population.
That’s how parties die. The question is simply which party will replace them once they pass the event horizon.
I am more worried about Trump’s quest for revenge hurting the country and democracy rather than hurting the Republicans. A GOP that believes in truth, facts, and science would strengthen the country, not weaken it. And believing in climate change doesn’t mean that you have to shut down the economy. There are always cost/benefit arguments to make for every position or policy but it doesn’t do any good to pretend that it doesn’t exist.
One should always believe in facts. A Democratic party that believes cops or random white people are roving the streets looking for black people to assault, or that biological sex doesn’t exist and/or is unrelated to gender, or that socialism helps people could benefit from a return to acceptance of facts.
Every time that I think there might be some chance to breach the gap by reaching out to discuss reality, I read something like this and realize that the only realistic option remaining is to outvote them.
Still amazed anyone would be so gullible to think Trump cares about them or the country. The only thing Trump cares about is himself and less so, his business cronies.
At the end of the day, the GOP has to assume responsibility for Trump, because although he was the most toxic and virulent strain of the Southern strategy that the GOP put in place in the mid-1960s he didn’t invent it. The GOP has for years “dog whistled” its “racist” winks and nudges; Trump just said aloud what the GOP was hinting or winking at!
Fundamentally, when Trump ran in 2014/15 he ran on a basic GOP platform removing the BS and everyone else was preaching from the same hymn sheet. He just said it outloud!
The reality of the GOP (and the Dems too) is that the primary election system is made to encourage the most fervent and engaged members of the party to participate — there is little “national GOP selection process” therefore the crazier will win. How do you get a Qanon supporter otherwise as a member of Congress?
These are not particular issues to Trump, they are the reality of the GOP. BTW, had black lives matter done the same thing as these morons did on January 6th, it would have been dead “protesters” that would have been dragged out of the Capitol.
At the end of the day, the GOP in Trump reaped what they sowed. They will have to face the consequence of that — and it will take a while not a vote to impeach Trump
“These are not particular issues to Trump, they are the reality of the GOP. BTW, had black lives matter done the same thing as these morons did on January 6th, it would have been dead “protesters” that would have been dragged out of the Capitol.”
I don’t mean to go off…..but I keep reading this take……popular in the liberal press. and I have to comment on it.
While no doubt true, I don’t see this as particularly relevant to the discussion. Do you think the violence of the BLM protests is somehow justified? The BLM leadership is just the flip side of the coin….have you read or listen carefully to their thought leaders? If you aren’t worried by the potential panda,um swing in their direction you should be.
No edit, excuse bad typing and really dumb autocorrect function.
Eddie do you really think for one minute that if the BLM had invaded the Capitol,the police would have treated them the same way? Really, because if you do I’ve got a bridge to sell…” BTW I’m not talking about rhetoric — I’m sure the leftwings are as crazy as the right wings, I was talking of the way the police acted when BLM was in town Vs. how it was when Trumps’ crew was there on January 6th — just compare the number of policemen (and national guardsmen) that were there during BLM and when the January 6th guys were there. That’s it
No, you’re trying to twist what I said. My point is that what the Capitol cops would have done to BLM or even Antifa had they stormed the Capitol…..is irrelevant to the discussion….I know they’d have been slaughtered…..but so what? What has that got to do with the future of the Republican Party after Trump.
It’s just a way to play the race card. It actually detracts from your otherwise excellent analysis. It shows bias.
Never mind…you boys duke it out. Don’t look for any remaining square inch of common ground. Sorry I said anything.
Eddie_T Sorry I get your point now…appologies you are correct I did get off point, which was that Trump is just the expression of a long held strategy by the GOP and it will be hard for them to walk away since they “fundamentally agree”, but I reallyg et your point.
There’s no way of knowing what would have transpired if BLM broke windows in the capital on Jan 6th, but based on what happened in dozens of other cities, the police would have likely stepped down. And for certain, they would not have been called domestic terrorists.
Incorrect. BLM rioters and looters carried on for weeks here in Louisville, Ky with little in the way of consequences. Few were arrested, most were released , and it appears prosecutions were minimal. Why are you copying some nonsense put out after the riot on Jan. 6th. The BLM was just upset that it was not in the headlines. The BLM has to stay in the headlines no matter the issue, and you fell for it bait, hook, and all.
BLM has gotten away with way too much. It’s because Americans are trying so hard NOT to be racist…..that they let their white guilt make them stupid.
The thought leaders in the current BLM movement are rank opportunists, They are already playing fast and loose with all the millions in donations, and they will end up like Morris Dees and SPLC…..a virtue signaling money machine that will enrich a few, while pretending to help the many.
Hate to break the news to you but racism is embedded into the very fabric of this country. It is so entrenched I fear it will never be truly extinguished. If I had to pick a place to start it would be changing the education system to make it more equitable to all Americans.
The educations system is busy doing that already. You must not be paying attention. If it were virtue signaling any harder, it would be a Monty Python skit. As is corporate America.
If you are a person of color looking for work, might I suggest something like VP of Diversity and Inclusion? Every university and every corporation of size has one, and they are quite busy making white people understand how terrible they’ve been, even if they never did anything at all racist personally. It’s SYSTEMIC, man.
Just look the job openings.
How about our major scientific journals….here’s a Nature op-ed from last summer. Absolutely stupid. “Now we will publish your science preferentially if you aren’t white.”
The truth is that really great students who happen to be black or brown are smart enough to self-select out of science, since most PhD’s can’t get a decent job. They go for tech or medicine….somewhere they can make good money.
Anti-racism,as it is portrayed by the leadership of BLM, is a mockery of the real civil rights movement, in my opinion.
I hate to break it to YOU……although I was born on a Friday, it wasn’t last Friday. I’ve lived in mixed culture my entire life and I’m fairly conversant on racism. I’m not some idiot like Peggy McIntosh or Jane Elliot. I grew up in integrated schools, went to university and professional school with people of all races….and I’ve personally witnessed the real effort made over the last 50 years to give a hand up by way of admission policies and other special considerations for non-whites.
Yes there is racism. But that doesn’t mean that the current batch of anti-racist activists gets much right.
You are living in fantasy land if you honestly believe that the education systems are already addressing racism in this country. Just compare an inner city school in a black New York City neighborhood and contrast it with almost any school in the wealthy NY suburbs and tell me that the kids from both schools have equal opportunities and an equal quality education. For the record I am white, retired and comfortably well off after a career at a NY based Fortune 500 company.
I had a very good friend who taught in inner city schools in Paterson NJ, until he was pushed out for insisting that his students actually attend class.
I wouldn’t claim that the inner city schools are as good….no way….but there are reasons for that…reasons that have a lot to do with a complete lack of interest on the part of parents and students….in things like reading, for instance.
The idea that systemic racism is the primary reason for kids of color doing poorly in school is a canard…one that overlooks so much…and absolves those who are responsible for the problems….hint, it isn’t the schools or the teachers. It’s a cultural problem….no amount of money thrown at schools…..no amount of diversity training is going to fix it.
“Harm Republicans For Many Years”
Good. The G卐P needs to die.
It is the Party of Hate®.
Their voters hate:
Playing the nazi card is never good.
There are lots of parallels to Nazi Germany which should not be ignored.
Well, when your putative leader is an incoherent, inarticulate, incompetent, incontinent, morbidly obese, narcissistic psychopath…
Agreed. I think you make valid arguments without resorting it. As a conservative and lifetime Republican voter until recently, I do see these voters don’t have much love in their hearts for anyone who doesn’t look like them unless they are Israeli.
I agree that the GOP needs to die as does the Democratic party.
Thanks Troll.
Just to be clear, I have never heard even one Republican say that the do not favor women having control over their body. Phrasing the issue of abortion in that way is clearly mischaracterizing it, but I’m sure you know that. Those that oppose abortion do believe that a woman has a right to control her body, but they also believe that no person has the right to take the life of another for their own convenience. Worse for your argument, science is increasingly on the side that life begins prior to emerging form the birth canal. A fetus, for example, has been shown to experience and react to pain.
Trump will use MAGA cultists to hold the establishment GOP hostage. So far it’s worked for him, otherwise why is there not global condemnation from the Jan 6th insurrection by all patriotic, Constitution loving Republicans?
There’s two outcomes.
The establishment GOP votes to excise the Trump cancer. The coming impeachment trial would be the ideal time to do it. This causes a fracture in the GOP and would reduce their chances of winning in the short term, but would be the best thing for the party’s chances for survival in the longer term.
MAGA holds the establishment GOP hostage and eventually takes over, as they primary more and more incumbents. The newly usurped GOP rejects democracy outright and increasingly relies on political intimidation and violence in order to achieve goals. MAGA is already well down the road to fascism, and they would hijack the GOP and divert them to continuing down that path.
Prob a fair assessment. A. Reps are fractured by pro-market/pro-global establishment types vs. national/populist/anti big biz types. B. Dems fractured by center-left union/pro-worker/universalist view vs. woke/intersectional/coastal view. It’s going to get even more interesting.
Sorry, fascism comes from strong government control over industry and suppression of dissent. It’s of the left and greater risk from that side. MAGA, for all its faults, is definitively, “we’re americans. leave us alone.” Who you’re describing a fascists are folks who don’t go along with current attempts to redefine America in a collectivist, identitarian fashion.
Yeah, because the Nazis were far left radicals that were in love with communists.
You made me think of John Heartfield and his art. He was this really great anti-Nazi artist in the 30’s….he got out of Germany…..but ironically, after the war, the Brits let him get sent to East Berlin, where the communists made his life miserable.
Extremism to the right or the left is not good for ordinary people in this world.
MAGA and the trump cult behavior was already pretty far out there in its susceptibility to willful ignorance and propaganda, but layer in this Qanon circus show idiocy on top of that, and you’ve got a pretty good case that 40% of this country has lost its mind.
Rob Portman’s had enough
Is he already on the “will vote to convict” list?
Will he (Jeff) flake?
Sorry, somebody had to go there. lol.
“Trump is washed up, finished, through. He lost in 2020 for one and only one reason: Enough of the country despised him. Trump will still be as despised four years from now, only four years older, age 78. Where’s Trump going besides nowhere? “
The answer to that is…..I don’t know.
I underestimated his appeal in 2016…and his numbers (the real ones) in this election weren’t horrible, in spite of an absolutely abysmal performance on a litany of issues….in spite of handling COVID with the same general approach as King Edward III did with the bubonic plague in 1348.
So I’d really like to see somebody drive a stake through the heart of his political ambitions…..if not his actual heart.
Hopefully here https://doccs.ny.gov/location/edgecombe-residential-treatment-facility
I’d pay good money to see a pirated video of Trump in a group therapy session.
But the truth is he belongs in a different place…..Matteawan State Hospital. Too bad it’s no longer in business.
” The Asylum for Insane Criminals opened at this site in 1892 and took the name Matteawan State Hospital the following year. New York State architect Isaac Perry, known for finishing work on the New York State Capitol, designed the main hospital building at Matteawan. The hospital was intended to house patients deemed too chronically dangerous for civilian institutions such as Hudson River State Hospital, and too ill for a prison such as Sing Sing State Prison. Through the 1960s, the facility operated under loose regulation guided by the whim of the superintendent, who determined at his judgment if a patient was fit to be released regardless of the severity of the crime. Some of the more notable inmates who served time here include George Metesky, the “Mad Bomber,” Harry Thaw, the man who shot and killed architect Stanford White, and Izola Ware Curry, a woman who stabbed Martin Luther King, Jr. while he signed books at a department store in Harlem, New York, in 1958.”
Unfortunately there is a decent sized % that do not trust the result. In their eyes its an illegitimate regime in place. Forget Trump, he’s finished, but the after taste will be in place for years & years.
Pity Biden ^ Harris . Hoover MarkII.
Unfortunately there is a decent sized % that do not trust the result. In their eyes its an illegitimate regime in place. Forget Trump, he’s finished, but the after taste will be in place for years & years.
Pity Biden ^ Harris . Hoover MarkII.
The one who surprises me is Rubio.
Not I, he’s looking at Ivanka running against him
Good point.
Trump needs to decide if he’ starting a third party or chalenging eveyone in primaries he can’t do both? Frankly I doubt Trump is even aware of what’s involved in setting up and registering a 3rd party.
Republicans are stil largely behind Trump but this idea of censuring and excommunicating anyone who is still not loylal to Trump seems akin to cutting one’s nose off to spite one’s face. Sure they might be able to take down Liz Cheney , who is right, but she’s good with the corporate donors something the MAGA’S are not good at.
Trump’s retribution is having an impact. Kevin McCarthy seems to have walked back his comments placing blame on Trump for January 6th
“Trump needs to decide if he’ starting a third party”
I heard it’s going to be called the Pity Party.
Oops, or was that the Patriot Party?
Maybe just settle on the Seditionist Party.
It is clear that the MAGA crowd want a different America.
The only problem is reality.
They wouldn’t know what to do if they won, so they revel in their Lost Cause, preferring impotent whining to actual responsibility.
Speaking of absurd lost causes, a group of trumplings just filed a law suit demanding that all of Biden’s executive orders be ruled invalid because he didn’t really win the election.
Shaking.My.Head.
There is nothing wrong with Trump’s platform: Maintain sovereignty, control our borders, limit the number and quality of immigrants, get out of wars, return military to domestic shores, keep jobs in USA, control abortion, overhaul healthcare, and reduce taxation. However, Trump is his own worst enemy and he is a terrible messenger to deliver his message. Yes, he is despised by half the population, and rightly so. He is an egotistical, ignorant bully and his oratorical skills are non-existent. Where is the person who can step up and deliver on Trump’s platform which is supported by the other half of our population.
“Back in 2016, the American people, sick to the gills of global capitalism and its increasingly oppressive woke ideology, elected an unauthorized, narcissistic ass-clown to the highest office in the land. They did this for a variety of reasons, but mostly it was just a big “fuck you” to the establishment. It was an act of rebellion against a government which they know is owned by unaccountable, supranational corporations and oligarchs who openly detest them. It was an act of rebellion against a system of government they know they have no influence over, and are not going to have any influence over. It was an act of rebellion against global capitalism, the unopposed, global-hegemonic system which has dominated the world for the last thirty years … whether they realized what they were rebelling against or not.”
C.J. Hopkins
Assuming that, have the reasons of Trump’s election in 2016 disappeared ? Will a “normal” republican party be able to represent such people ?
“Back in 2016, the American people, sick to the gills of global capitalism and its increasingly oppressive woke ideology, elected an unauthorized, narcissistic ass-clown to the highest office in the land. They did this for a variety of reasons, but mostly it was just a big “fuck you” to the establishment. It was an act of rebellion against a government which they know is owned by unaccountable, supranational corporations and oligarchs who openly detest them. It was an act of rebellion against a system of government they know they have no influence over, and are not going to have any influence over. It was an act of rebellion against global capitalism, the unopposed, global-hegemonic system which has dominated the world for the last thirty years … whether they realized what they were rebelling against or not.”
C.J. Hopkins
Have the reasons of Trump’s election in 2016 disapperared ?
never rule out TRUMP
Trump is toast.
All he can do is destroy other Republicans
The dems fought the 2016 election result for 4 years.
Trump is done, but he still has followers and any republican who votes against him in the absurd senate trial will be committing political suicide.
Hillary conceded on election night. What did they do beyond that date to contest the vote tally?
The Mueller investigation for starters
Let me refresh your memory: Mueller was a standing member of the GOP, his mandate was given to him by the DOJ that was run by an Attorney General that was nominated by Trump…where do the Democrats fit in this narrative, oh, of course, they read the report, how stupid of them
Oh brother. The democrats in conjunction with some republicans wanted Mueller. Not because of his high ethical standards. Rather because they knew he would be willing to report whatever finding they wanted him to report. And he did. But it completely fell apart under cross examination. Rod Rosenstein appointed him. Rosenstein was anti-Trump.
It didn’t completely fall apart. The partisan Republican controlled senate refused to even hear evidence. Trump refused to testify, or allow testimony from his toadies.
This is another us vs. them argument.
The Mueller investigation was politically motivated and ill considered in my view. But Mueller was actually quite kind to Trump as it worked out.
There is some fire from every smoking Trump campfire….Trump has a fifty year history of corruption that is easy to find and read about if you have any interest in anything besides being a sycophant.
Trump was extremely useful as a blunt instrument to beat on the hypocrisy of the Democrats….now not so much, unless we go off into fantasy land for good. Which we might.
‘Clinton conceded’, that s right… The Democrats however, deeply hurt sore losers as they turned out to be, in collusion with their biased fake news C(linton)NN, never stopped looking for motives to impeach him, relentlessly so, each month they came up with yet another’scandal’….PATHETIC and even embarrassing that was !
Posted a comment yesterday, but apparently the link wasn’t from an approved source. Things didn’t end when Hil conceded and started blaming everyone else for the loss.
The Cable News Network has a nice compilation of the objections to vote certification in 2017. They tallied 11 times, but it seemed the objections then were as sound as the attempted lawsuits this time around.
Mitt Romney will be reelected despite all his efforts against Trump. Look how Trump performed in the 2016 GOP primary. They weren’t enthused.
Repubs are dead, simple as.
The old way is but a new is coming. 2024 or 2028 expect a massive swing back. All the bad stuff over the next 4-8 years will be at the door of the ruling party and it will be truly awful. People will vote for anyone at that point but not the ruling regime from that period. Pendulum just keeps swinging and it wont be stopped.
BS from an idiot for certain. The DEMs are worse than the GOP and Conservative parties, including independent voters! Wake up and die right!