Pat Toomey on Impeachment
Republican Senators Willing to Take a Stand
- Senator Pat Toomey (R., PA) cites impeachable offenses.
- Senator Ben Sasse (R., NE.) said Trump violated his oath of office.
- Senator Lisa Murkowski (R., AK) became the first Republican senator to call for Mr. Trump to resign.
- Senator Mitt Romney (R., UT) publicly blasted Trump.
“I believe the president has disregarded his oath of office,” Sasse said. “He swore an oath to the American people to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. He acted against that.”
Romney has not yet stated an opinion on impeachment but I am quite sure he would do it. Romney’s speech calling out GOP was the culmination of years of warning about Trump
Recall that Romney was the only Republican to vote for Trump’s impeachment last year. It is reasonable to assume he would again.
Trump Crossed a Constitutional Line and Should Resign
The WSJ says Trump Crossed a Constitutional Line and Should Resign.
[Trump’s actions were] … an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election. It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line that Mr. Trump hasn’t previously crossed. It is impeachable.
We know an act of grace by Mr. Trump isn’t likely. In any case this week has probably finished him as a serious political figure. He has cost Republicans the House, the White House, and now the Senate. Worse, he has betrayed his loyal supporters by lying to them about the election and the ability of Congress and Mr. Pence to overturn it. He has refused to accept the basic bargain of democracy, which is to accept the result, win or lose.
There’s still more. What about Georgia?
White House Forced Georgia U.S. Attorney to Resign
Please note White House Forced Georgia U.S. Attorney to Resign
A senior Justice Department official, at the behest of the White House, called Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney Byung J. Pak and told him he needed to step down because he wasn’t pursuing vote-fraud allegations to Mr. Trump’s satisfaction, the people said.
Mr. Pak resigned abruptly on Monday—the day before the runoffs—saying in an early morning email to colleagues that his departure was due to “unforeseen circumstances.”
The pressure on Mr. Pak was part of Mr. Trump’s weekslong push to try to alter presidential election results favoring President-elect Joe Biden, which included his win in Georgia. Mr. Trump this week, following the U.S. Capitol riot, said he would leave office on Jan. 20 when Mr. Biden is inaugurated.
Mr. Pak’s resignation came one day after the public release of the audio of a Jan. 2 call in which Mr. Trump had urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to overturn the November election results. Mr. Trump told Mr. Raffensperger in the roughly hourlong call that the Georgia Republican could face legal action and said he should find nearly 12,000 votes of five million cast to reverse Mr. Biden’s victory in the state.
Mr. Raffensperger rejected pressure to further investigate an election, telling the president, “The challenge that you have is that the data you have is wrong.”
The president also complained on the call that Mr. Pak was a “never Trumper.”
What Have We Here?
- Election tampering
- Judicial tampering
- Obstruction of justice
Georgia officials are investigating whether Trump broke Georgia election laws.
It’s clear he did.
Add those to grounds for impeachment.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will likely hold up a vote for the sole purpose of not having Republicans own up on record whether they still support Trump.
Trump is guilty and should be removed.
Trump is Toxic
Removal from office by impeachment is somewhat moot. Trump is Now Toxic, The Value of the “Trump Brand” is Negative.
Trump’s legacy is sealed. He will be viewed as the anarchist holding the match.
All that’s left for Trump is a pile of lawsuits, some of which might put him in prison.
Mish
The more i think about this the more i conclude the true reason behind republican reticence on supporting impeachment is fear about going on record. if sedition isn’t impeachable then nothing is. In deciding not to impeach Aaron Burr over killing Hamilton the rationale was this wasn’t a crime against the state. But in Trump’s case that’s clearly the case.
I thank Toomey, and the other desperate sellouts (including you) for fully exposing themselves. There’s obviously a reason the establishment, which includes FOX, establishment Republican’s and useful idiots, are acting so desperate to get Trump out
immediately, and shut down communications for Trump supporters.
As covered in the info below, Trump has executive authority to pull back
the covers if there is proof of foreign involvement in the elections, which
looks provable. An Italian judge has confirmed the affidavit, which was
delivered to CONgress.
Gen. McInerny explains –
https://rumble.com/vcl9r3-gen.-mcinerny-we-got-pelosis-laptop.html
Background on Italian Job –
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/italian-connection-video-partly-recorded/
Text from Italian judge regarding affidavit –
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/revolution/pelosis-laptop-conspiracy-theories/
.
While I can’t confirm if Pelosi’s laptop has been nabbed, the desperation
being witnessed throughout the media is quite telling. If true,
confirmation should be forthcoming.
This is another time to step back and review history, which Armstrong
provides, including the origin of the term “False Flag”, which was the
Reichstag Fire.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/what-was-the-capitol-siege/
There’s a reason hatred and fear are the most successful forms of
propaganda – they truly do make you go blind.
I have to admit I am astonished at the cultural divergence between the red and blue states in this country. Given the state of the two party system in this country it is difficult to see things improving any time soon. Maybe it is time for a group of the “left coast” states and a group of the “right coast” states to separately secede from the union.
It’s not blue v red states, it’s the decaying big cities v. rest of America.
Joe got it sorta correct, although his tone is condescending.
The divide is urban vs rural, not red vs blue States. The rural mentality is leave me the f- alone.
Look at what this political scrap heap blog has become. Nice diversion from its folly in the realm of financial punditry. Deflation, crash, collapse, all the buzz word click bait to keep the lights on, when the only way to have made money these last 12 years has been to take a contrarian approach to most everything presented here.
I have done just that, and can’t complain about the results. But as an investor, not a political junkie, I now find it necessary to put this URL in the junk section of my bookmarks, and switch over to more credible sources of financial information.
Wolf street, Real Vision, George Gammon, Max Keiser, Neil McCoy Ward, Peak Prosperity, Lyn Alden,,,,and many others offer great financial information without the need to use politics as a cover for bad calls and impotent advice.
But y’all hyper ventilating partisan clowns have fun shouting each other down with your preconceived politically biased opinions. I must now attend to more important things, like managing a portfolio and continuing to improve my living standards, in spite of constant harping from know it all adherents to the status quo.
Been fun. Might stop in again if I see this place going back to things “common sense economics.”
Vaya Con Dios
I guess this will put to rest the false accusation that his base had left him. I can tell you from what I hear, it’s the total opposite. Go ahead impeach him that will solidify our resolve. You don’t understand, this has never been about Trump! You’re still way off base.
” A Rasmussen poll, one of the most accurate polls of the 2020 election, finds President Trump’s approval is actually rising after Wednesday‘s protests.
As Democrats move to impeachment and some establishment Republicans call for the 25th Amendment to remove Trump, the poll finds 48% approve of the President’s job performance.
Talk of impeachment or removal from office would make Trump a martyr to his base, one person said. If the vice president led an effort to remove him, it would only reinforce Trump’s declarations that a “deep state” of government bureaucrats has long been bent on opposing him, another said.”
“After all these years he could at least post my comments and tell me what he disagreed with and why.”
I have no idea what Truthseeker is even talking about. I just got up, was editing images all night and if anything was removed a spam filter got it.
I have no idea how it works
Has anyone noticed the diconnect/irony between the 230 protection removal and the Trump faction moaning about censorship by being dropped from twitter?
They, in the end, want twitter to take the heat for their BS
Our voice is silenced, he says, while speaking on the biggest cable news network…
….Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) was likely speaking to millions of conservatives on Fox News Sunday morning when he complained to host Maria Bartiromo that “Republicans have no way to communicate” now that the Twitter alternative Parler has been effectively taken down by Apple, Google, and Amazon Web Services for refusing to adequately monitor its content for incitement of violence.
Guess the Trump bashing will go on for another 4 years. Certainly might open a pathway to a 3 minute guest appearance on MSNBC. And it also generates a lot of clicks,,,,new eyeballs for corporate advertising.
Meanwhile, it appears we have a new new administration and Congress, with no checks and balances to interfere with their agenda.
This new administration seems to believe that government creates all wealth. The”You didn’t build that” meme is back in vogue. Most folks feel that the reason for poverty and homelessness in this country is because government doesn’t give its people enough money. That the government is the economy, so to speak. That general attitude can be very easy to exploit by the ruling class.
Obviously a valid point, considering the advancement of China as an economic powerhouse over a very short period. Central Planning has accomplished amazing results there. American politicians are envious. They see the wealth and power it has transferred to those at the top, as well as the rising standard of living for the population in general.
And the American population shouldn’t be hard to convince, that if they will just grant unconditional consent the their government, that it will come through with untold wealth and prosperity, given a little time. Like, maybe 5years? One year past a 4 year term. Humm, that leaves one year to go come next election.
I’ll just leave it at this. Grant unconditional consent to a power mad bunch of government parasitic wealthy politicians, who never worked an honest day in their lives, and wait for the skittle shitting unicorns to knock at your door.
Oh, I forgot,,,The rulers are going to “Build it Back Better.”
Refinance your house, dump everything you have into passive index funds, and party hardy. Your government won’t let you down.
And if things go wrong just chant “Trump did it,” and sympathy will come pouring in. They might even set up a Go Fund Me account for you. See, it’s win,win.
Mitch McConnell’s memo to the GOP senators says that under Senate rules it will require unanimous consent of “all 100” Senators to take up an impeachment trial before the 20th. The Senate had already agreed unanimously to pro-forma sessions thru the 19th on Jan 6th.
Would Mitch have reacted this way if a Democratic president had said the same things? We had 5 investigations, spared no expense to prove some conspiracy in Benghazi and now in our own country, 5 dead, and it is a time for healing. I am confused.
This country is 50/50. I personally am an independent and didn’t vote for either one of them. I will say I live rural and most people here are gritting their teeth so hard at a Biden win that they have no teeth left. If the left thinks they are going to control these people and tell them what to do good luck with that. The US isn’t one size fits all and for the dems to think(as some of them have already said) are going to put everyone under one umbrella it’s going to get real nasty, real quick. If they start doing crap like major gun bans I would suggest stay out of the way most of these people out here are violent when it comes to that subject and to be truthful……I grew up around it and have the same feelings on that particular subject. No one out here is committing crimes but that’s likely to change. It’s not a joke, people out here are foaming at the mouth.
Rural folks are delusional. No one is going take away anything they value.
Thanks for that. Like you, I didn’t vote for either evil. I voted for an alternative to the two divisions of the one party corporatist state.
I am also in a rural area, and folks around these parts just want to live their lives and be left alone. Seems that they are tired of being told how to live by a behemoth out of control central government.
There was a reason this nation was founded on the principle that government should never be allowed to become so powerful that it could be commandeered by special interest groups to do their bidding.
Case in point, have you noticed how fast the republicans joined the democrats in an effort to prevent any threatening ideologies from interfering with their political cartel?
The left has no Idea. Lol
If one can be arrested for yelling fire in a crowded movie theatre how can Trump’s incitement of a crowd to march on the Capitol building thereby indirectly causing the deaths of 5 individuals not be at least an impeachable offense and possibly a chargeable offense?
Any member of Congress that doesn’t support impeachment should be removed from office under the 14th amendment Section 3:
No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Differences in opinion equals insurrection and rebellion for some I see.
They gave aid and comfort to the insurrectionists. They told the insurrectionists to fight and then the senate was physically attacked.
I repeat. Your interpretation would include anyone who expresses strong discontent in public.
No. Telling people to fight and attack is different than expressing strong discontent. The constitution drew the line well here.
Telling mostly old men and woman to fight without weapons? Lol, you surely don’t know what a real fight is. How about all the politicians, DOJ, FBI that lied about the Trump Russia collusion? Talk about treason trying to take down a sitting president with a fabricated lie. Not one was hung for treason. Not one is in jail, now that is what stokes the base. It is way beyond Trump now. You’ve gotta wake up son.
A litany of platitudes totally ignoring the root causes. On top if it he pulls out a fake sword and shows he has a complete ignorance of metallurgy. Celebrity endorsements don’t have the punch they once had.
what’s the root cause? stolen votes(which was a lie) or something else?
No. The root causes are the shrinking middle class and a highly corrupt political cast. Conan the Barbarian just gave us a nice, cute “trust your leaders because they are right and true” speech.
Words well spoken, and I will not stand on the side perpetrating 4 years of lies of Russian collusion, or the persecution of General Flynn. Think about it.
The evidence was there. 9 trump henchmen convicted, Don Jr. meeting with Russians to get dirt on Hillary in a hotel, Flynn pleading guilty. TWICE. So no one recorded a phone call where the dotard said “Hey Vlad, let’s collude!”. So what? Mob bosses don’t work that way. He was responsible for his campaign and their crimes. At least a real leader would accept that.
Not to mention trump’s obstruction of justice in plain sight, to which Billy Barr says “can’t go there, because we don’t allow our presidents to be accused of crimes while in office” because of some memo they wrote at the DOJ decades ago.
Oh, and the obvious guilt in the Ukraine impeachment case, and interfering with the vote in Georgia, at least twice, a felony. God, it never ends, does it?
Not sure what part of that you don’t understand, but then again I’m not sure I expected that the Sedition Party would actually storm the Capitol either.
Helpful reminder
Completely irrelevant. This was true 200 years ago.
Current discussion is about who owns/controls the public square.
you seem to think that you have some rights on twitter, that you are a customer. that’s a fallacy. you are product.
that’s the constitution. read the 1st amendment.
That’s why as a customer I showed the door to Facebook and Twitter. That’s why as a customer I can fire from my life any company I don’t like. The rub however is if these companies use the law to eliminate their competitors leaving the customer no choice then it violates that guarantee to free speech. That these media ban Trump is not a problem. There are many other outlets. That they band together to eliminate competing outlets is a completely different matter. They become a Trust which is another name for a conspiracy. It then falls under the Sherman Anti-Trust Act of 1890 and it’s subsequent modifications.
Should we post the first amendment. Free speech doesn’t mean what you think it does.
public square? twitter is a corporate asset. so many thing wrong with what you say
Ah, and the logic goes, Twitter doesn’t have to allow anything they don’t wan to, because they are a private business. If people don’t like it, they can set up their own alternative. Hidden, though is that, if people do try to set up their own alternative, Google and Apple will block downloads of it, Amazon will block hosting of it, and Mastercard/Paypal will block funding of it. By preventing alternatives which allow free speech, conversation in the US can be just as tightly controlled as it is in China.
Exactly what law has apple broke
None. The law permits Apple to prevent downloads. The law permits Google to remove the App from their Play Store. The law permits Amazon from not hosting for Parler. The law permits MasterCard and Paypal to choose who they do business with. If, however, the cumulative effect is to limit free speech, perhaps we should wonder if that laws don’t need some changes.
You hit the nail on the head. Anti-Trust laws have to be rewritten to take into account what new technology allows now and above all these laws must be applied. Unfortunately the new administration is full of people from these companies and are major donors. Do not expect them bite the hands that feed them. They are bought lock, stock and barrel.
In the meantime, we may see a surge in Bitcoin. If banks block access to credit cards and banking for free speech sites, they will little choice but to use Bitcoin, or some other crypto.
No matter how many silly links you still come up with, the 2020 presidential election was the biggest SCAM ever !
I know the first amendment very well thank you and since you posted this comment shows you don’t understand what the first amendment means.
In 1983, 90% of US media was controlled by 50 companies; as of 2011, 90% was controlled by just 6 companies and in 2017 the number was 5. When it becomes one like in the Soviet Union will you still have free speech?
Bring back the fairness doctrine for TV and cable news
RE: “Media concentration abridges the freedom of speech and the freedom of the press.”
Agreed … Corporatocracy and Monopoly are the problems when combined with Citizens United which exacerbated both …
I think we are confusing issues of monopoly control with free speech. I do think we have excessive concentration of ownership. But I also think this twitter conversation is not a free speech issue as defined by the 1st amendment. I’m sure the courts will agree.
I hear Trump wants to make it though and plans to sue Facebook and Twitter. He will lose just like he lost every election challenge
“Organized power is realized power”- LaTosha Brown
Black genius at work!..
A new narrative to “mend not bend” our Constitution is needed,
Impeachment is a great start to ending white privilege
And mark the beginning of the mending process!..
Commenters below have been talking about the fate of the Republican Party Of America.
It’s finished.
Here’s why:
The bulk of the economic, entertainment, media and social media personages have, in effect, fused with the Democratic Party Of America in order to lock in globalism as the supreme operational construct and design in future American polity. They and those who orbit them are not leaving, not now, not soon, not in my lifetime. Why should they, they are the beneficiaries. The ethnics, who have always been bonded to the Democrats, aren’t leaving either.
What’s left?
This:
Whiteness,
if you will permit me the usage.
Now the bulk of the whites, who perceived themselves as Republicans but now suddenly perceive themselves as a defeated and disfavored underclass, will simple withdraw into an apolitical orientation of a sort, not an opposition, not a force to be reckoned with (or even considered as existing by the elites in the formulation of policy,) not really anything at all in the political calculus.
So, what’s left for the Republican Party going forward in the years ahead?
Well, a minute stub constituency within the electorate, 15%-20%, if that, is what is left.
As I posited above, the Republican Party Of America is finished, and for this sad state of affairs one and only one foolish little “man” is almost solely responsible. We all know exactly who that is, now don’t we.
Imagine how different the world would be on Sunday, January 10, 2021 if on December 15 that man had decided to treat the family to a month-long (and much deserved) vacation and allow the two Vice Presidents, one current and one former, work out the boring final details.
I dunno, the two parties are so married to each other that they can’t really exist independently anymore. They NEED each other as a bogeyman. If we’re asking about the end of one party in a literal sense, it seems extremely unlikely.
If we’re asking in a philosophical sense that could be different, but it doesn’t really matter. Both red/blue teams not remotely what they claim to be anyway.
the end of one party in a literal sense
I have no doubt the name Republican will continue, but the capacity to move members into elected office will collapse because of the ability of a handful (or two) progressives in California to determine precisely what information can, will or shall be disseminated, by whom, when, where and in what sequence(s) will make it extraordinarily difficult for any Republican Candidate to communicate fully with the entirety of the electorate. Unless, of course, you play ball completely with the information gatekeepers, as Mike Lee of Utah has learned to do with great skill. The problem then becomes one of ownership, with the Senator being the property of the gatekeepers, as he has obviously become.
As the one-Party State evolves the resolution of political conflict will be moved off-stage so as to become obscure or even nearly invisible. Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
You’re so totally right about one thing, the elected officials, once seated, cease to have much, or even anything, in common with the governed or the ruled. And then it all becomes theater, a show.
When a group of traitors openly foster sedition and killing of their political opponents (Lin Wood on wanting to zip Mike Pence, for example, or Rudy Ghouliani on taking their exaggerated grievances to combat, or how about organizing for violence on Jan. 17 and Jan, 20?), not only have they violated the agreed to rules of posting, but they are creating insurrection. So then make your own damn message board and cloud server if you won’t follow the rules. Or maybe they were just joking, ha ha?
Just because a president considers himself above the law and violates it constantly while he abuses the power that his voters entrusted to him, doesn’t mean all his supporters get to also.
You’re right about one thing. The Republican party is as good as gone. It’s now the Sedition Party.
The democratic party has abondoned the working class since Clinton for other than virtue signalling, while I agree the Repubs are in trouble the working class populist lane is still wide open.
You failed to notice the Republican strangle-hold over legislation–the last time the Democrats had a free rein was for a couple weeks in the first Obama administration.
My goodness have I come to understand the prescience and social survival skills of the host of this site as he re-positioned his political affiliations and image at the start of 2020. I do confess that the birthing of a permanent progressive one-party State in America and the sudden movement to prevent communication which is not in alignment with it was something which completely blindsided me.
Of course that “party” is not really a party in the traditional sense of the word since it is a novel admixture or amalgam of the Democratic Party Of America and the elites of the banking and investment banking industry with the near entirety of the entertainment industry, the media, the “press,” and the social media. This is the ruling class and the clerisy which orbits and serves it.
A force, a power like that is simply irresistible and most unwise to challenge in any way which comes to its attention such that it perceives a risk or a danger to its primary goal.
But what, you ask, it the primary goal of this new State, why did it form, why does it no longer permit opposition or even criticism? It’s a good question, and the proper answer, as best I can ascertain, is:
Globalism,
an organizational construct against which the beneficiaries thereof will no longer tolerate any form of effective resistance, even if the resistance is by means of word only.
The victims of globalism are best understood as the subjugated, the beneficiaries thereof the subjugators. That’s the American divide as the American story continues to write itself in the days, weeks, month and years ahead.
But Sir, you now ask, isn’t this a thread concerning Donald J. Trump and his incessant and gratuitous foolish, meaningless, reckless and finally dangerous prattle? Yes it is, and here’s the connection:
DJT finally delivered the spark which the new Party was awaiting to have the cover to unveil its arrival, its breathtaking power and its obvious determination remain at the pinnacle, which it inevitable will do.
Again, Mr. Shedlock, your adjustments at the onset of 2020, which I failed to understand and appreciate at the time but certainly do today, reflect a level of prescience and skill which is usually only found among the survivors of great upheavals.
I salute you, I genuinely do.
Thank you.
Interesting stuff. You ever read Mencius Moldbug at Unqualified Reservations?
Say what! Again in plain English so a 5 year old can understand it.
Accusing our host of being anti Trump or Pro Democratic is seriously misguided. As fas as your other accusations go you are seriously misguided.
Accusing …..
Accusing???
Mon dieu, I possess admiration for the prediction of an impending sudden upheaval and transformation of society and the wisdom to step completely out of its way and thus emerge a survivor.
And I wonder exactly how I missed the warning signs.
Meanwhile here in LA we are up to 4 hospitals rationing care and counting with the UK variant of Covid coming and probably the S African one not far behind. I just want to see the new admin get cracking on doing a lot better job dealing with Covid. Trump I will ignore going forward. Sad to see a man who was on top the world screw things up so badly in the last 9 months.
I say let the Trumpites try to primary everyone in the GOP. It didnt work out too well for them in the Senate and if the idea is based on overthrowing the government then what are they for ? Anarchy isnt a winning platform.
All talk of Trump-backed opponents in 2022 GOP primaries is done. Stick a fork in it.
The pro-Trump Congressmembers like Tuberville and Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz… good chance they’re done too.
Romney is part capitalisms problems and growing inequality. His money gets hi elected though. His Bain capital destroys middle class lives. A few get rich and many become poorer.
Mitt Romney, it turns out, is the perfect frontman for Wall Street’s greed revolution. He’s not a two-bit, shifty-eyed huckster like Lloyd Blankfein. He’s not a sighing, eye-rolling, arrogant jerkwad like Jamie Dimon. But Mitt believes the same things those guys believe: He’s been right with them on the front lines of the financialization revolution, a decades-long campaign in which the old, simple, let’s-make-stuff-and-sell-it manufacturing economy was replaced with a new, highly complex, let’s-take-stuff-and-trash-it financial economy. Instead of cars and airplanes, we built swaps, CDOs and other toxic financial products. Instead of building new companies from the ground up, we took out massive bank loans and used them to acquire existing firms, liquidating every asset in sight and leaving the target companies holding the note.
Yep, Mitt represents the main problem as a bankster front man. He could also fit seamlessly into either party and be welcomed with open arms.
I remember people trying to muster enthusiasm for him in 2012, just like they did for McCain in 2008. It was a pitiful sight and eventually led to Trump, who would at least tell people what they wanted to hear even if he didn’t mean it.
For those of us who are anarcho-captitalists, Mish, please don’t confuse anarchy with chaos. It is a disgrace to the word anarchy to associate that form of government with Trump.
Oh and if you are interested Bruce Benson’s The Enterprise of Law, is the book that finally pushed me over. Neither David Friedman nor Murray could.
…Anarcho-capitalist..
Rewards lucifer-like capitalism while expecting people to take care of each other like jesus would.
What a farcical system.
Seems to me the same old shit as the previous couple dozen millenea.
People siezing what they can when they can.
Delusional naivete.
Making Trump a First In US History?
Who thought up that brilliant idea?
Oh…the same Chick who ruled out impeaching mass murderer GWB.
Do you R-E-A-L-L-Y think that will make Trump less popular come 2024? THINK AGAIN. (not that I give Trump 2024 any credence).
Why hasn’t Obama been imprisoned for assassinating American children, doing a Watergate on steroids, and bombing more nations than Hitler?
I remember in 2008 Toomey ran as a “conservative”, shameful traitor. No wonder he’s not running for reelection, he knows he would be primaried from the right. I predict the GOP will split into a nominal conservative party like the French Republicans, while the Trump wing will be similar to the French National Front/Rally. AOC is still just a nuisance for Democrats but who knows if she starts challenging Biden and Pelosi.
I was also surprised to see research that the youngest generation is more hostile to homosexuality than people born in the 70s and 80s. Researchers point to collapse of birth rates, especially among liberals as the reason for slight discrepancy. As population ages, the electorate ages too which isn’t good for Democrats. Birth rates have also collapsed in Latin America prompting concerns about American access to cheap labor.
It’s a good thing that the new generation is so smitten with AOC and Socialism/Communism because by the time they are middle aged China will own them anyway.
My worry with China is that Chinese men outnumber Chinese women by 40 million. History repeats itself and we know what happens with such large gender disbalances. China is also set to overtake the U.S. as the largest economy. And while it’s a highly secularised country, it’s not liberal per se like the West, it can muster itself collectively something the West can’t.
You’re looking way too much into future red/blue trends. Age doesn’t matter much, the fact that economic malaise will be with us for the foreseeable future is the real driver. Anyone who observes the two parties for any length of time will conclude that neither has any intention of improving the lives of ordinary people.
What does this mean? People will become increasingly disenchanted with US politics and will stop believing in the system. That has far reaching consequences, but none of them will benefit red/blue. As soon as either side gains power, they will quickly demonstrate that they still don’t care about the bottom 99%.
This should go without saying, but Trump did nothing to help them either. He was in the right place at the right time to try to crash the duopoly, but turned out to be a total dud.
You may be right. It would be a good thing, in my opinion, for all the Trumpophiles to form their own party, and let the Republicans return to their Conservative principles. As you point out, the Democrats may fracture as well. The 2 party, and only 2 party system, has not been a good thing.
Watch for Big John Fetterman, Lt. Gov. of Pennsylvania, run as the Democratic candidate for PA Senator in 2022. I expect he will win. He looks like a blue collar hero, a huge, odd but riveting looking man of the people with a searing wit and a very sharp mind.
In fact, I expect he will be President by 2028, if not sooner. You heard it here first.
Pence still considering 25th amendment.
I’m thinking it’s leverage against pardoning the insurrectionists. If Trump tries that, Pence will 25th him. How could he not, they were threatening his life.
Bye bye Parler. Amazon kicks it off their hosting service.
What is most terrifying about this, is that so few voices are being raised against Big Tech’s ability to silence dissent. We take it for a given that in China, all tech is controlled by the Chinese Communist Party, and no one else is allowed to speak. In the US it is apparently no different. Sadly, when free speech is lost, all other freedoms will follow.
We could try it the other way. After all, Gen. Patton said he loved it when Germans shot at him because then he knew where they were.
Freedom of speech is precious. In the end, it is measured in liters of blood.
Here’s a deep dive into the legal precedent for indicting a POTUS. Worth a read.
“Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will likely hold up a vote for the sole purpose of not having Republicans own up on record whether they still support Trump.”
Only on McConnell’s watch. The impeachment and trial will continue under Schumer. The only way a senator can avoid being on the record is abstention (which is still on the record) or resignation (which is still on the record).
When is enough, enough? He needs to not only resign he needs jail time.
That he would STILL seek Pak’s resignation THE DAY AFTER THE Georgia vote tampering fiasco is shocking, and shows he’s an habitual criminal.
Not before GWB and Obama are jailed and executed for mass murder. Please be sensible.
He’s a vindictive SOB. Seems to live for revenge.
Remember how he had FBI director McCabe fired just hours before his 20th year of work there, so he couldn’t qualify for his pension? Not to mention all of those who wouldn’t swear loyalty to him or who testified honestly against him in impeachment (first time).
I hope that Biden hires back every single one of those gutsy Americans,
Breaking news: Susan Collins and Rand Paul speak out in favor of impeachment.
Breaking Breaking News: Susan Collins and Rand Paul speak out against impeachment.
link? i can’t believe this i need to see it
Guys it was satire c’mon
Yah, right, the Susan Collins who LONG AGO said “Trump has learned his lesson” – BS. Trump could spend the rest of his life in prison (and deservedly so) and the leopard will still not change his stripes. He’s still be blaming thins on others.
come on man…
I believed it about Collins.
good interview. Members of the Senate and House that supported Trump’s coup d’etat are part of the golpistas
Pat Toomey will not be in the Senate come January 21. Senate is not in session. This goes to Schumer
Toomey will not run in 2022
Impeachment is certainly justified but it won’t get Trump removed before his term ends. Interestingly Romney is not on board. My position is it should not be done unless they can first secure the votes in the Senate otherwise Trump will call it acquittal. A censure vote by both houses might be more practical.
I definitely believe Trump committed an impeachable offense but I’m weighing the reality of getting it done
I believe he might be pressured to quit….but whether he does or not……..that he should be tried in federal court for a whole laundry list of offenses…as an ordinary citizen…as soon as he leaves the Presidency. Let Garland and his new justice department make an example out of him for the good of the Republic and to show that no one is above the law.
It is very important to impress the next would-be king that taking advantage of the unique situation that a President has…..cannot be used as a legal shield to protect a corrupt administration.
State crimes is probably the quicker option if he self pardons
The so-called “self pardon” should be the first thing the new AG goes after. That shit needs to be nipped in the bud. It’s a Pandora’s Box of evil….
Donald Trump exposed so many flaws in the system. The truth is a Democracy is only as strong as the moral character of its leaders. I said four years ago based upon information and belief that Donald Trump lacked the skills and character to be President. Too many people thought, he’ll just have experts and we’ll have guard rails. That’s just not how it works. We probably don’t know half the damage this lunatic engaged in.
I think that unless Trump resigns, it is important to take the impeachment to a vote. We need each member on Congress to have to go on record as either saying insurrection is OK, or that it is not.
Re: self pardon hypothetical
President organizes death squads to kill his political opponents.
President self-pardons and pardons assassins.
OR
President declares himself President for life.
President self-pardons
The only remedy is the 25th Amendment or impeachment. The President’s party controls both avenues.
Self-pardoning results in violent civil war or the overthrow of the government.
It is a logical impossibility.
One of the more reasonable, instructive interviews I ran across today…..Rick Wilson of the Lincoln Project.
“reasonable” and “Lincoln Project” in the same sentence…lolz
Yeah….lolz. Rick Wilson is 100% right.
The impeachment is going to occur either way. Nobody in DC wants him to hold federal office ever again.
He’ll lose $200k/yr pension, $1M/yr travel expense and secret service protection.
Will not have monuments or airports named after him.
It cements the legacy.
It will only increase his popularity, what ever it may be.
It’s my understanding that unless the Senate convicts him before the end of his term, he will keep those benefits for the rest of his life.
Of course it would be difficult for him to use his travel budget if he’s behind bars.
The Republicans could easily force Trump to resign if they were so inclined. Either threaten to impeach him or worst case invoke the 25th amendment. Shameful. Time to switch my party affiliation.
I disagree. My sense is Trump isn’t listening to anyone except maybe family members and 1 or 2 key supporters.
So then the Republicans go the 25th amendment route. They have options.