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Deal With Democrats for House Speaker in Play as Trump Takes Down Emmer

Donald Trump pulled out all the stops to squash Tom Emmer’s speakership bid.

Trump Helps Kill Emmer’s Speaker Bid

Politico reports Trump Helps Kill Emmer’s Speaker Bid

Hours after the Minnesota Republican secured the House GOP’s speakership nod, the former president and his allies began calling GOP lawmakers on Tuesday afternoon to vent about his dislike for Emmer, according to two Republicans with knowledge of the calls.

Those moves followed a public post from on Truth Social in which Trump called the No. 3 House GOP lawmaker “totally out-of-touch with Republican Voters,” adding that House Republicans would be making “a tragic mistake” by picking him as speaker. It didn’t take long after that for Emmer to drop out of the race.

Mike Johnson on Deck as Infighting Continues

Reuters reports US House Republicans Eye Mike Johnson for Speaker as Infighting Continues.

-Republicans in the U.S. House of Representatives tried again to pick a leader on Tuesday after Representative Tom Emmer became the latest hopeful to fall victim to party infighting that has paralyzed Congress for over three weeks.

Representative Mike Johnson of Louisiana emerged as the leading candidate with 85 votes after a closed-door evening vote, lawmakers said, though it was not clear whether he would be able to overcome divisions that tripped up Emmer and two other candidates who had previously won the party’s nomination.

Like Steve Scalise and Jim Jordan before him, Emmer’s prospects were doomed by a relatively small group of holdouts who denied him the 217 votes he would need to win the speaker’s gavel. That high threshold and the party’s narrow 221-212 majority means that any candidate can afford to lose just four votes if Democrats remain united in opposition.

I suspect there will be plenty of opposition for Johnson.

If this continues, Republicans will be forced to cut a deal with Democrats for House speaker.

For what?

This is all so stupid because 8 cannot and will not set agenda for the country.

What a disaster, unless you are a Democrat.

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William Jackson
William Jackson
2 years ago

The Country is struggling to free itself from the Democrat Controlled Administrative State in DC. Congress must disarm and break up this real threat to our freedoms and Constitution–2.7 million parasites in 400 Federal Agencies paid $575 million per day to rule over us ignoring our laws with no accountability. They hate Trump and all who enter their city to protest.

Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Trump is a prisoner of D radical judges and DAs. They want to throw him in jail.
They want to deny him visitation rights to Colorado and other states. Congress
on time out. Matt is killing the clock. The other side has a bad coach.

Micheal Engel
2 years ago

Hakeem the regime change Trojan horse is down. It is a systemic change : the
R aren’t trying to get along, to be gentlemen with the D. They wouldn’t bend to Hakeem will. The clock is ticking against Biden. The Fed on red alert, ready to raid.

Frilton Miedman
Frilton Miedman
2 years ago

It’s nice to see them get so much accomplished right as the market heads for what appears to be another downturn.

Maybe if/when they get a leader in, while the market’s dropping, they can debate the important issues, like outlawing books or the bickering feud between Greene or Boehbert and which is the most Trump-like fashionable prom queen, Gaetz can be judge, he has the hairdo for it, gameshow host-like.

America is in great hands.

At least McCarthy bought us time between debt ceiling hostage situations,
now that’s what I call a sacrifice fly.

The proper term for a normal republican is “ex-politician”.

Now, back to the Trailor park bar, it’s happy hour and Gaetz is about to put a lampshade on his head!

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Avery2
Avery2
2 years ago

Sheesh. Trump never mentioned Emmer’s involvement with Soros and Sam Bankman-Fraud.

Michael Bond
Michael Bond
2 years ago

So not a disaster.

An opening to a governing body.

Larry
Larry
2 years ago

Sometimes the making of sausage is nasty… but hopefully the results will end up good.

The petty bs of the RINOs in voting down Jordan out of spite at Gaetz was childish in the extreme. The spenders on the appropriations committee didn’t like the way he was about controlling spending either…

The problem with the Republicans is they have a core of true patriots who are trying to restrain government, and a bunch of primadonnas who are petty and all about lobbyist money.

The democrats are just as bad… but at least they are united around the quest for power at all costs

Jack
Jack
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry

Seems to me the 8 “true patriots” are the ones “ united around the quest for power at all costs”

Larry
Larry
2 years ago
Reply to  Jack

None of them are running for speaker. But they DID hold McCarthy accountable for breaking his promises about the budget, J6 video, etc

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry

Let’s count all the good things they get out of it.

Karlmarx
Karlmarx
2 years ago
Reply to  Larry

The american people must like them though. And tjey must like talib and cortez as well. They have a chance to remove them every 2 years but dont

AndyM
AndyM
2 years ago

The GOP made a pact with the devil. Now they are going to go to hell.
Not sure what even means to be a Republican in these days, other than ‘not a Democrat ‘. What a bunch of clowns, and I am not happy about this because i believe you need at least two functioning parties to have a functioning Democracy.

The GOP is a ghost of its former self. But this it the problem with America today. The obsession with short term results leads to a …it show in the long run.

Too bad the author of this post is another partisan fighter. If he claims this is bad unless you are a Democrat, he shows how partisanship makes people myopic and superficial. This is not a …ick measuring contest. We all need a functioning democracy where people can disagree but still behave like adults. Sadly this is not the forum for it.

JK
JK
2 years ago
Reply to  AndyM

Functioning Democracy. What a fool. You think the Congressional mafia cares about the American people? Care about our Bill of Rights? Care about a balanced budget and mounting debt? Sound money?

Please.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  JK

Why does anyone stay in this country if they feel it is so worthless and broken? I see this all the time, starting with the head of the snake Trump who is 100% certain the USA is dying every minute that he doesn’t have total control.

Martin
Martin
2 years ago

People stay for football, baseball, and basketball.

joedidee
joedidee
2 years ago
Reply to  AndyM

make sure to thank obama for accelerating the division of our once great country
no more middle is the problem(ie were compromise worked)

KGB
KGB
2 years ago

USA is better off without a budget than with a taxer spender RINO speaker. At the first opportunity Congressman Matt Gaetz can vote to vacate the S.O.B.

All but eight representatives voted with Democrats for the taxer spender double cross continuation bill. As far as I am concerned only eight representatives are qualified with the integrity to be speaker.

dtj
dtj
2 years ago

The GOP should just dissolve itself and merge with the Democrats and rename themselves the “Uniparty”. Then make Nancy Pelosi house speaker and get the money flowing again.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  dtj

She’ll never bring anything to the floor without already having votes. I see you’re already learning.

joedidee
joedidee
2 years ago
Reply to  dtj

love the realistic /s

NC
NC
2 years ago

Like the Hollywood strike, I’m fine with this lasting forever.

JK
JK
2 years ago
Reply to  NC

I agree. I hate the Uniparty.

Joe Poncakia
Joe Poncakia
2 years ago

Mish. You conclude by asking “for what”? My answer is for the future of the US. McCarthy represented the establishment neocon war party who endeavored to maintain the status quo. Gaetz and company represent the majority including myself who want change. Come on Mish, were you really happy with the direction we are heading with McCarthy? There are a bunch of snakes in the House conference that need to go.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Joe Poncakia

It’s amusing to think that the GOP’s “optimal” strategy is to sit on their hands and not govern. Why not just disband all government? Who needs ATC let all the planes and pilots sort if out on the runway.

Patrick
Patrick
2 years ago

The longer this takes, the more money we might save because we won’t be able to spend additional money we don’t have.

David C
David C
2 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

That’s not how it works.
The money owed is eventually caught up and paid.
Most of what the government pays is already legally committed and not discretionary.
There are additional costs for delayed payments on many of the contracts the Government has already signed, so it ends up costing the US much more by delaying.
These 8 idiots couldn’t manage a piggy bank, much less a Federal Government.
They will eventually get sidelined and some put out to pasture. They are basically handing power to the Dems and most of the country will be pissed off at the Republicans because they can’t even manage their own party and people are sick of the obstructionist tactics over the last decade from them.
Show ACTUAL leadership or you’ll get run over and voted out. They’ve devolved into a bunch of crybabies who can’t get things passed. Sad.

To be clear…I am NOT a Dem, just sick of a bunch of whining people that aren’t showing any leadership. Get somebody to run the party / for President that the majority of the country doesn’t hate and can build an actual coalition to get real progress made.
Cheers!

Rinky Stingpiece
Rinky Stingpiece
2 years ago
Reply to  David C

To be finnicky, the “8 idiots” seem to be primarily concerned with exporting taxpayer funds to prolong foreign conflicts and security issues, instead of domestic ones. That funding can’t be non-discretionary, nor committed.

The problem is conflating this external debt-driven political funding, with long-term committed spending on public services and infrastructure, which is another complaint – i.e.: omnibussing unrelated matters to push things through that would otherwise not get support or scrutiny if presented in splendid isolation.

The final issue and complaint is that due to the excessive influence of lobbying interests, and essentially corruption, it’s proving difficult to get anyone who is capable of showing true leadership and uniting your country… and the same applies outside America in other western countries. Until there are enough politicians who decline to take conditional (or implied conditional) funding, then the system is broken.

Mish is correct that the system is broken, but it is corruption that has broken it.
The US lacks a mechanism to resolve this. In the UK, there would be a no confidence vote and a snap election, and the impasse would be broken; it seems that in America, you are stuck with the money running out for essential public services, followed by months of civil unrest, then having to wait for an election next year to resolve it… that just seems like a terrible idea… and bad for the economy, which seems to be in recession and heading for layoffs, throwing fuel on the fire of an already polarised and fraught situation.
It’s little wonder that some talk of Civil War, but it seems that more rioting and self-segregation, as in the past couple of years is the more likely outcome.

Karlmarx
Karlmarx
2 years ago

Congress was never designed to be a parlamentary system but it now basically functions as one.

At least the founders made terms relatively short. The house would basically stop functioning by april anyway due to elections.

Kevin D
Kevin D
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

At some point, the bond market will force a degree of fiscal restraint.

Given non-discretionary items (SS/Medicare/Medicaid) in budget and foreign conflicts, assume necessary infrastructure spending to be gutted.

Our generation’s selfishness will leave a country in ruins for next generation.

Neal
Neal
2 years ago
Reply to  Kevin D

Medicare and Medicaid are discretionary. But they are a third rail that politicians won’t touch until forced to. And by then it will be too late as instead of a heavy pruning of them the need will be to totally abolish them and a lot of other budget items. Galloping inflation, a massive debt, collapsing corporations, depression level unemployment and a shrinking tax base will be what forces things.

Stu
Stu
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

No it won’t, unless the House capitulates. Power of the purse is in play and if used wisely, we should be able to get straightened out by Cutting Funding, and then let the agencies decide where and what to cut, based on what they have left. Easy!

The promised issue is another issue all together, so yes they have to be paid to a point, and we should enact laws doing away with or drastically lowering what that amount would be. Maybe only 50% guaranteed in certain situations, like we have now for example… we’re broke!!!

Stu
Stu
2 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

I agree, so let’s keep it shut down until we get what the Citizens are clamoring for!!!

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

I see the Kongressional Kamikaze strategy is preferred among conservatives here. Many have wrapped themselves so tightly in Trump’s philosophy that they cannot recognize reality.

joedidee
joedidee
2 years ago
Reply to  Patrick

then it’s to the moon once they figure this out
thought inflation was bad last year, this year

Albert
Albert
2 years ago

If Mish‘s reasonable rules would have ruled the selection of the Speaker, Emmer would by now be Speaker. But the Führer was against it … so chaos and stupidity continuous to rule the House GOP.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Why are you so disapproving of this particular episode of the clown show? For as long as I can remember, it’s been one fiasco after another. To quote Adam Smith, “There is a lot of ruin in a nation”. And these evil clowns have done their best to wreck this once great nation. The list of crimes are extensive: reckless spending, endless wars, open borders, undermining the rule of law, debasement of the culture, instituting a police starte, eroding the bill of rights, rampant corruption, …

And you’re worried they won’t stop squabbling so they can get back and continue their war on the American people?

Alex
Alex
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

Great article over on Unz about the current Palistinian-Israeli conflict.

https://www.unz.com/article/destination-1922-a-return-to-claims-of-the-arabs-in-palestine/

William Jackson
William Jackson
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex

1-Welfare System birthing Children out of wed lock for a Government Check. These children will fill our jails supporting the giant lawyer class and Democrat politicians.
2-Administrative State in DC.

From these two all our problems spring

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

“Aid to women with dependent children,” another well meaning, but, poorly thought out government program. In the government’s effort to protect those from the consequences of their actions, they have brought us to a point where everyone must suffer dire consequences from their reckless stupidity.

Blacklisted
Blacklisted
2 years ago

All the problems spring from NOT having short term-limits. This Republic will predictably implode like all that came before.

randocalrissian
randocalrissian
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

Hard to glean what it was, calling Mango Mussolini a Fuhrer, or saying anything negative about what the GOP is doing. I’d love to hear from the cowards downvoting as to their intellectual process.

Jim4117
Jim4117
2 years ago

This society has become a fragile house of cards balancing every special interest with money to spend that those without don’t see the value in continuing the status quo. I’m not in that category myself, but consider the condition of the lower orders.

BENW
BENW
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Shedlock

“This is all so stupid because 8 cannot and will not set agenda for the country.”

And yet, that’s exactly what’s happening. Good for Matt Gaetz, his 7 friends, and the rest of us who are fine with a paralyzed House.

McCarthy is NOT a GOP leader. If he was, Mayorkas would have been impeached within 60 days of McCarthy taking over the gavel.

McCarthy is a UniParty RINO. It’s time for new leadership. Go Johnson!!!

DavidC
DavidC
2 years ago
Reply to  BENW

Nope. Gaetz, MTG, Boebert and the other idiots are merely obstructionists who are not capable of running their own noses…even if they had a cold.

There used to be Republicans who could get shite done, ensure Financial Stability and Discipline. They could actually work with Dems and Independents to reduce the debt and and pass solid legislation without screaming about personal attacks and promoting hate.
Time to go back to getting people who are capable in Congress instead of who can scream the loudest Conspiracy Theory. Term Limits and Campaign Finance Reform are needed now. Get rid of the SuperPACs and special interests.
The US public isn’t going to put up with this crap forever and will throw MTG, Gaetz and the other idiots out.
If you don’t have a plan except “stall things the other party wants” and making up “tempests in teacups” over things 95% of us don’t care about, you’re going to lose the ability to make any difference.
These guys are bad jokes that probably shouldn’t have a driver’s license, much less a vote in Congress.
Clearly time to get a couple more political parties that aren’t tied to a Cult of Personality or extreme positions on either side.

joedidee
joedidee
2 years ago
Reply to  Albert

emmer is NEOCON war monger
no thanks
uniparty so WHO CARES
all they do is spend fiat $dollars with new debt we cannot possibly pay back

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