New Tactic
The Wall Street Journal reports Trump Campaign Launches New Tactic in Legal Fight to Contest Election Results
The Trump campaign and its allies unveiled a new tactic to contest election vote counts, suing to stop state officials from finalizing results due to fraud allegations in Michigan and limits imposed on poll observers in Pennsylvania.
Judges likely would be reluctant to take the rare step of blocking final vote counts without seeing substantial evidence of fraud or irregularities widespread enough to change the election, legal analysts said.
President-elect Joe Biden was declared the winner by the Associated Press in Michigan and Pennsylvania by margins that election-law experts say would be difficult to overcome in court. In Michigan, Mr. Biden’s lead was 146,000 votes with 99% counted, and in Pennsylvania it was over 45,000 votes with 99% counted.
Alleged fraud that affects fewer votes than the difference between the two candidates is a nonstarter, said Barry Richard, the lead counsel to former President Bush in 2000.
“The law on fraud is very simple,” he said. “You walk into court and have to bring in evidence that there was fraud or voting irregularities, and you must show that it could change the election.”
Separately, a group of 10 Republican state attorneys general filed an amicus brief on Monday supporting Pennsylvania Republicans in asking the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse the state’s three-day extension for receiving mail-in ballots.
Beyond Lame
Trump is behind by 45,000 votes even if late ballots are discarded.
This is one act of desperation after another after another, with no credible evidence remotely close to what is required.
More Delusion
https://twitter.com/MishGEA/status/1326020211305181184https://twitter.com/Apatsfan/status/1325989191868698625
It’s scary that a huge number of people actually believe these things.
Mish
How short are the memories! Russiagate–a true Democrat conspiracy to take down a president, Kavanaugh hearings for a rape that never happened, impeachment for Ukraine when the Biden laptop proves it was justified… There is NO BASIS for trust.
Now, add in election irregularities… What is predictable other than NO BASIS for trusting the results?
Chasing the white whale of your fever dreams will be your undoing, Captain Ahab.
keep on chasing your tail you, that ‘s ALL what you are good at….apart from insulting people with a rational view…
Go Stand in line to Fellate Your Orange-Haired, Trumpaloompa
Along With All The Other Losers and sing we are the Champions, Written by a Gay man, Cingaderra…
None of this is surprising… the RNC explicitly made it’s platform ‘whatever trump wants’. They’re all in. I’m getting a kick out of the news corps cutting them off when they lie, but I dearly hope that the ensuing trumpletantrums were recorded for posterity.
So here is an opening for the Libertarian party becoming the party of Reagan and the current Republican party becoming the party of Trumpistos/Trumpistas. I see Libertarians as a better version of the Reagan wing of the party with guys like Bill Weld who are fiscally conservative but socially liberal. That is a party that could peel enough Trumpistas away and also win the independent and centrist Democrat vote.
The Republican party and RNC is toast if it gets taken over by Trump family. Ironic because the same thing happen to Southern Democrats who were not in favor of civil rights in the 60s. Major opening in American politics coming imo. A lot of people are unhappy right now, which makes me happy.
Everything the trumps touch dies
Strange because the GOP is actually in a much better than was predicted, it was competitive in the elections and won some Latino support, why they would throw all that away in favor of these two is strange.
More Free Lap Dances For Everyone!!!
Right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it.
William Penn
I’ve noticed that many anti-Trump people are under the delusion that Trump was an actual fascist dictator. I rather think history will prove that Trump “accomplished” very, very little.
Was this much delusional hysteria a few decades ago, such as circa 1969?
Brad, the fix that Mish had to install to stop the mass spamming in the Community section also killed editing. Just be careful what you write as you won’t be able to edit is. 😉
Eddie, exactly. It’s not that Trump WAS an actual dictator, nor even that he really wants to be one, it’s that the actions he often took were consistent with the behaviors of actual third world dictators. I don’t want the US heading on a path to a dictatorship any sooner than it will otherwise happen on it’s own.
Yeah even tho I was a little kid in the 60’s the political craziness then far surpasses today. JFK, RFK, and MLK assasinated, the youth were in the streets and there were many violent left and right wing groups although the left made more news groups like the KKK were quite active.
Less old people, a lot more young men back then.
More crime too (90% of crime comes from 17-30 year old men)
It wasn’t that Trump WAS (or is) a fascist dictator…he is just the kind of individual who can get so drunk with power…and also he’s ignorant….of history, of law, of even understanding the importance of the separation of powers….and how important that is..that he easily COULD usurp powers he was never intended to have…and which most Republicans really never thought about grabbing.
Our game has rules….some are laws…..but equally important are our traditions…and one of our traditions is a peaceful transfer of power…..no matter what.
He clearly WANTS to be a fascist dictator, even if he doesn’t know what the words mean. He thinks Putin and Kim are getting the treatment he deserves, and this denial is the WORST THING EVER IN HISTORY OMG THIS IS TERRIBLE NOTHING THIS TERRIBLE HAS EVER HAPPENED TO ANYBODY EVER, BELIEVE ME!
He’s still trying… he may not even want it now, but a dictatorship is the only thing keeping him out of the lawyer tank he’s dangling over. People are probably going to die over it when he unleashes his heavily armed moron militia, but I don’t think he’ll succeed. Its frightening that someone as spectacularly incompetent can get so close though. Maybe it’s a requirement… hitler and musollini were dipshits too. The moron masses might only anoint a true moron.
If history has taught us ANYTHING, it’s that you have to kill totalitarianism at the root with extreme prejudice.
Pardon us for not waiting until Trump met your definitions.
Agree with brad here. Trump isn’t a dictator, he’s not even much of a villain. He’s just a narcissist who thought it would be fun to be POTUS. Hillary would have been terrible anyway.
However, this is what makes the Trump era so annoying. Half the country thinks he’s evil incarnate, while the other half worship him like a deity. They’re all wrong about him. Our unwillingness to acknowledge post-TARP economic reality has us wasting time on individual politicians, playing pretend while American society crumbles.
I suppose I’ll start getting concerned when I start seeing posts here like “Hey guys, you know we can beat those libs in a war.”
Til then…
It’s not “here” here… but…
Saw that. They talk a great game. All sizzle, no steak. Pussies to a man.
After World War 1, many Germans refused to accept defeat. They weren’t actually defeated, they rationalize, they were stabbed in the back. They blamed Jews for the defeat, among other scapegoats. They used conspiracy theories to deflect reality.
This persisted all the through the Weimar Republic and was one of the sentiments that Hitler leveraged for political power.
The US is not a fascist state as long as the elections hold. But I am starting to worry that there is a growing fascist, anti-democracy movement here in the US. They are attacking the legitimacy of the elections because they didn’t get the result they wanted.
Erm… Did Hilary ever really admit to defeat, because she seemed to be very taken with the notion that she ‘won’ the popular vote and she was robbed of her rightful entitlement? And didn’t she say she was stabbed in the back and blame the Russians, along with other scapegoats like the FBI, her campaign, the deplorable she’s and just about everyone else she could point a crooked finger to? Didn’t she use conspiracy theories to deflect reality. And didn’t that persist through the whole of the Trump presidency. And isn’t this one of the sentiments that leveraged for political power amongst the Democrats. And finally chum, can I correct you when you say ‘The US is not a fascist state as long as FREE AND FAIR elections hold. There, sorted!
Hillary Clinton actually conceded and did not call the election a fraud and try to undermine the legitimacy of the election like Team Trump is doing right now.
Trump is an enemy of American Democracy.
Hillary Clinton actually conceded and did not call the election a fraud and try to undermine the legitimacy of the election like Team Trump is doing right now.
Trump is an enemy of American Democracy.
He’s certainly the enemy of American Democrats, but that is an entirely different thing from American Democracy. Here in England we have a Liberal party that is anything but ‘Liberal’ in nature. And from what I observe daily, pretty much the same can be said for US Democrats. Sometimes it helps to be a little distance to see things clearly. Anyways, not my problem.
… Trump is attacking the electoral process. He called it a sham months before we even had the election? What else can you call that?
Perhaps good intelligence (not necessarily in the IQ sense, I accept). Maybe he knew things you and I don’t. Plus also that the Dems led attempt after attempt to have him removed from office during his Presidency, probably wouldn’t have taken Einstein’s brain to figure that his opponents might try to get up to some little trick here and there.
Look! I really don’t give a twopenny damn about Trump or Biden. Its not my cookie. But I do care about Democracy. As I was watching the election process during the evening, even I sitting at home here in England was thinking the whole turn of events was utterly UTTERLY bizarre and inexplicable. And as I said on this site the morning after the election, things need to be explained and all the phantoms and conspiracy theories and straw men need to be laid to rest. Otherwise you’ve got 85 million very angry fellow Americans breathing down your neck.
Certainly an imbecilic old grey-haired codger appealing for ‘reconciliation’ and ‘coming together’ at this stage is about the most stoopid thing ANYONE can do under the circumstances.
> whole turn of events was utterly UTTERLY bizarre and inexplicable
Why? As Mish points out, it was entirely expected and predicted.
No, see the way it works is if you have claims of voter or electoral fraud, you present evidence, not make vague accusations and promoting conspiracy theories. It is the burden of the accuser to provide evidence, and they haven’t.
He’s not even a real Republican, switched affiliations a few times…
Wrong. His affiliation has always been to himself.
I am sure that people like Sidney Powell, Rudi Giuliani, Mitch McConell, and others are stupid enough to stake their professional reputations and futures on something as transient and ephemeral as (as you put it) ‘vague accusations and promoting conspiracy theories.’ /s All the best! We all get the governments we deserve.
Here’s another take…
“They are attacking the legitimacy of the elections because they didn’t get the result they wanted.”
Just as the FBI, CIA, DNC and House of Representatives did in 2016.
I am afraid you don’t know much about WWI apart from what schoolbooks taught you…. Germany did NOT want war it felt crushed and threatened between Russia and France who were allies at the time, therefore attacked France and surrendered 4 years later, parts of Germany were given to bloodthirsty Poland,planting as such the seeds for WWII, provoked by Churchill …..but you won t find that in schoolbooks
None of that is relevant to anything I said.
….YOU were the one talking about WWI…..so I just followed suit…
You know, I’m running out of pejorative adjectives to describe this guy.
Sounds Like You Need to start Posing in Spanish and Chinese, There are Still More out There,,, But WE ALL Agree With Your Synopsis…
Have to wonder what percentage of online social media driving this is Russia-based.
There will be a few cases of fraud every election but if you were to look across all votes, there are errors not favoring one candidate or the other. Trump is no different but he thinks he is. When you have 146M votes, there will be errors but that doesn’t mean it was fraudulent. Trump will take the tiniest amount of error and call it fraud. This has been the MO of Trump since he stepped down the elevator at Trump tower and called Mexicans rapists and drug dealers.
Russia is very likely to also be driving the social media flames in terms of the current election mess. This is the perfect most hoped for scenario with them. A lot of supporters on the right, don’t realize/care that they are targets of a huge misinformation campaign.
O no! Not another deranged ‘Russia’ tinfoil certified conspiracy nut.
They would have to be smart enough to know what a misinformation campaign and accounts from Russia looked like. Trump supporters just aren’t that smart. Notice I didn’t say Republicans because they aren’t the same thing.
Yeah it’s the rachet effect, they are missing the forest for the trees. There will be other elections, this isn’t the only one. If the GOP if it plays their cards right they could be in a very strong for 2024, the Hispanic numbers and other numbers where better than expected, they could build a strong base on this and be very competitive in 2024.
However, they seem fine attaching themselves to the guy who most probably has run his last race, so there will be no more elections for him, so it’s understandable why he is willing to fight to political death, why they are attaching themselves to him can only be explained by the rachet effect.
Yup. Just some innocent mishaps…
Mish, Honestly? There is, for statisticians, very little doubt that the election in some states may be fraudulent based on every… repeat… every tool routinely used to analyze these kind of data flows.
I strongly recommend you step aside and let this important process work through the courts. In this case, Trump is not the focus, its the American voter’s right to a free, fair and honest election. 70 million people are very concerned. At a minimum its the the lack of oversight in every sense of the word….at best, premeditated and deliberate intervention at worst. I’ll go out on a limb and simply say that this process will be an unusually fast one and we’ll worth you waiting.
Love to see you analysis, do it in R. Show your code!
Good luck, and don’t forget to donate to tRump who is needing his followers’ money.
This is crazy, lack of oversight. The election in these swing states has been under a microscope for days. If what you say is true, lets look at Texas, Mississippi, Alabama – come to Vermont. I am quite sure there are many irregularities in these states. I think we should investigate. For all the huffing and puffing I have yet to see an actual fact to support these allegations.
70M very concerned ? If that were the case, they would be out in the streets en masse. You are delusional. Most people who voted for Trump did so because they are Republicans first. He just didn’t win because he only got around 92% of Republican party voters rather than the usual 98 or 99. I think the Republican party i s fine with Trump making a fool of himself. I would be worried if I were the Republican party in 2022 or 2024. The longer Trump keeps opening his mouth, the worse off the party looks. I’m a lifelong independent and my wife was a lifelong Republican until this election. We are now throwing support to Dems wherever possible. The Lincoln project is going to wrestle power away further from McConnell wing of the Republican party. The Republican party of Reagan use to be more libertarian and relatively fiscally sound but then they caved to the Gingrich/McConnell wing of the southern Republicans who are privately racist, fiscally unsound and publicly social conservatives while privately fine with abortions if their semen is the semen that has impregnated a female.
“The Lincoln project is going to wrestle power away further from McConnell wing of the Republican party.”
That would be fantastic! It might be a non-starter for Republicans in general though – and it will likely take a major downfall for the Republicans before they do the soul-searching necessary to make something like this happen. There is no guarantee that they would come to the same conclusion – a dislocation like that might just move the party further ‘out’.
Cracks me up after years of MAGAts telling us not to trust anonymous sources they turn to anonymous sources to give them a grain of hope. It’s just so pathetic!
You Just Put a Smile on My Ugly Face!!!
Crime pays. Most murder cases are not solved, let alone larceny, break-ins, etc.
The problem with fraud is it’s like the cock roaches: there’s never one.
No matter how much fraud is proven, it will never amount to 1% of what has actually occurred.
The statistical anomalies (stretching back for decades) are as good as proof for everyone but believers in miracles.
The election is over. It was no more fraudulent than most elections are in this country…..and it’s time to move on.
I don’t think these court cases are going anywhere. The system could use some improvement, but the results of this election will stand….
Partisan bickering is inevitable in the current milieu….unfortunately. Given the present circumstances, it doesn’t make much sense to drag this out. If Trump were anything more than a complete narcissist, he’d step aside now…..but…he’s a petty, self-aggrandizing jerk who believes his own lies, and there are legions of delusional people who are more than happy to buy into his fantasy.
Biden’s Covid Plan
“ Listen to science” is their first bullet
Empty platitudes
Who’s science? Experts disagree.
Trump wanted to ‘lock Hilary up’. Biden wants to ‘lock everybody down’. Go figure!
The vaccine wars are starting.
Bolsonaro Is Bresil’s tRump who fights their own scientists. That tells everything.
Will Biden ever have full, unquestioned, legitimacy?
There will always be a cloud until the law rules on the validity of the process.
Nonsense. The doubts have no basis in fact. Regardless of how judges rule those doubts will remain. Trump has already assured that
Biden will be President. Yet the Rep tactics are still short of what Dems did to Trump in 2016 through 2019 to delegitimize the presidency. Shame on the Dems for that assault on democracy that we are forgetting so easily now. The Reps are overstating their case, and will likely lose but the vote totals have not been certified yet. It’s perfectly legit to run with this until evidence is brought forward or cases dismissed.
Trump brought that on himself. With a Republican House and Senate no doubt for 2 of the 4 years you state. You want to blame Democrats for the Mueller investigation ? Who exactly do you think started the Mueller investigation ?
This episode is placing US democracy at the same level as Russias Putin.
A real shit show.
There isn’t one properly transparent & functional democracy amongst the current 3 great global powers – China, Russia, US.
Sad state.
What are you talking about. First trump would need to have at least case that was not laughed out of court. And as Mish said the PA case is just stupid.
Of course. Nothing will dispel the doubts that it is no accident that Americans cannot count ballots. Forget about unity. There will be less faith in the legitimacy of any institutions than ever before, especially the media and government.
The validity of what process ? The election changes happen in most states in 2019 and Republican state legislatures went along with them in their respective states. The Democrats weren’t ready for the 2016 election after the voting rights act was struck down but they were ready for 2020. Since the Supreme court said each state could run its own elections and rules the voting rights act null and void, Republicans thought this favored them only. They thought wrong. Democrats can enable voting just as much as Republicans try to make it harder to vote.
The firing of Esper should give everyone pause. Trump hated him because you would not deploy troops against the public.
Trump may accelerate troop withdrawals from Syria and Afghanistan now that he has an inexperienced secretary of defense
That’s the best news I’ve heard since V-J Day.
He should, shouldn t he ? That region is NONE of your business, Bush and Obama invaded under false pretexts, messing up and killing millions of innocents in the process!
‘Deploying troops against the public’? You mean against destroying and looting anarchists ?
FromBrussels – the only thing from Brussels I have ever had any sense of agreement with
The american Nomenklatura(Dems and Reps) had already decided way before the elections : Trump is an embarrassment HE HAS TO GO ! Hundreds of millions of dollars in a fake news campaign and unscrupulously taking advantage of the pandemic would do the job. The presidency for Biden, the senate for the Republicans ….and screw the deplorables if necessary….they must have thought….. Btw, I am NOT a Trump fan and I DO admit he occasionally IS an embarrassment…..but a democratic process should not be tampered with !
Emily Murphy, a Trump loyalist heads the GSA and is refusing to certify the election for Biden. Without this certification, the Biden team cannot begin their transition. She has no legitimate reason to withhold certification.
A writ of mandamus needs to be filed immediately to force her to do her job.
Both the Democrats and Republicans engage in stunts from time to time but Republicans have elevated it to an art form
It is being elevated, but not quite to the level of demanding a special counsel to investigate foreign interference and possible collusion for three years, wouldn’t you say?
(a) If there is real evidence of that collusion, I would expect that demand.
(b) If there is real evidence of that collusion – I expect the FBI already has it. They may be sitting out the election this time, but if they have something actionable from the dross that the bonkers Trump/Republican dirt-diggers found, I would expect it soon. If not, then yes – I would say that wouldn’t be to the level of demanding a special counsel — wouldn’t you say the same?
Trump’s team not willing to begin formal transition process. I’m wondering why the Biden side doesn’t go to court and get a Mandamus
They’re letting the trumplings slowly get used to the idea that he lost.
The idea that we need to coddle trump and give him time to accept reality is ridiculous. This is the united states. He can’t accept it? Give him a teddy bear and binky
Risk of adverse ruling
The suits will fail legally but succeed in not allowing Biden to be ready to lead when his term begins and ensure the nation doesn’t come together. Seems a guarantee Senate investigates missing strawberries and calls Joe Biden in as star witness as first order of business.
Substitute 2016, Trump, and the House of Representatives in your statement. What do you think now?
That the Senate didn’t do it’s job?
With such a love for the Democrat Party I wonder why you left Illinois. When I asked if Chicago’s elections are fair you said yes they are fair even though Chicago is recognised as being one of the most corrupt cities in America. You are very good at economic analysis but it looks to me that when it comes to politics you have a blind spot if you can’t “see’ corruption. Here is a nice report on it from the University of Illinois.
I couldn’t place my finger exactly on what was going on with Trump supporters as the days go on since it became clear Trump was not the winner but could tell their belief is escalating, you have in essence the beginnings of what I call a “rachet” effect for his supporters and himself and anyone inside the Trump orbit(people like McConnell, GOP, etc). The belief whether true or false is now self perpetuating and feeding upon itself. I have observed this effect in revolutions in other countries such as the one in Egypt a few years ago.
The hallmark of a rachet effect is to self perpetuate/self fuel themselves and they are notoriously hard to stop, because by definition you can only tighten/heighten the effect, in this case the belief that widespread election fraud happened, you see now others like Barr and McConnell being pulled in, in fact the military may at some point be pulled in as an arbiter to the situation if a suitable off ramp is not found. This is situation is headed towards unstable ground as it’s going to run into outside reality at some point(courts unwilling to rule in favor, elected officials from other party not heeding the line, etc.).
While I personally don’t support Biden or Trump, the GOP that while this does bring them donations/outrage/etc. Once the rachet effect gets going strongly they may not be able to contain/control the individuals on the ground, they are in essence playing with fire here. No matter what you believe as an individual it’s important to take a breather here and consider whether you yourself are currently part of this rachet effect on the Trump side, nothing good will come from this.
Good points, but I don’t see the military getting involved in this process. It could easily happen down the road a bit, but not yet because it would spark a real sectarian conflict.
I’ve also noticed that people accepted the results last Wed/Thu more than they do now. This ratchet effect is why I think the country is in real trouble in the coming years. Online echo chambers make this possible and the reality that people are willing to fan the flames means that animosity will only mount. This is the new normal, until it gets even more heated.
I’ll be very interested to see what Parler is like with so many new users. I’m betting it will get so cult-like that regular people will struggle to digest it. QAnon and Alex Jones material will become the norm, and not everyone believes in lizard people, baby blood drinking elites, JFK Jr coming back from the dead, etc.
Was this why Trump fired Esper? He couldn’t be sure Esper wouldn’t support his staying in power?
I’d read that Esper was quitting a couple days before trump ‘fired’ him. I’d guess its some effort to save face.
What the posturers don’t realize(or maybe they do but don’t care/evil), is that this only increasing the ratcheting effect as mentioned by@Tengen and myself. The effect is that you can’t walk anything back, you can only escalate, you see this all the time in normal human relations/families/business but very very rarely do you see it at the national level because it always ends in the government falling at some point.
Or maybe Trump thinks he can get Christopher Miller to bring out the military to aid him in holding on to power after he delegitimizes the election. Hope that’s not the case, because it would BE the government falling, and some of us would have to find a new place to live.
Very Articulate and Well Said…
Seeing a lot of this wishful thinking from Trump supporters. They’re still poring over electoral numbers over on ZH like it’s election night, looking for scenarios to reach 270. Not sure why they’re torturing themselves like this, but the drama could extend all the way to 12/14.
Future historians will struggle mightily to understand how someone like Trump could inspire this level of fanatical loyalty among followers. I guess that was the purpose of QAnon, to transform Trump from a political figure to a religious one.
When a country’s workers havent had a pay raise since 1980, and are tired of being behind in all things American (the right to an LED Tv and a new kitchen) with credit cards maxxed, what else were the bottom half (not just financial) to do? Admit defeat? Doubly embrace their resistance to a changing world? Hell no. They are Americans! They deserve everything and more! Why? Cause they are Americans! Trump can convince us were arent white trash!
A Trump vote is merely a vote against the exact brand of arrogance you peddle.
….And people really, really hate the status quo, you are both.
Your screen name is quite fitting. But maybe triple X??
That’s a lot of projection. FYI I didn’t vote for Biden and frequently trash both red and blue, but you have to admit a lot of the Trump love (especially from Q) is cultish.
It ALL Is!!!
You Got That Right, And He is The Most UN-Religious Person In The World…
Time For an “Atheist” For Prez!!!
Don’t you have a statue to hump somewhere “Mish?” A candidate has every right to dispute an election when irregularities occur which they most certainly did in this case. You might want to keep in mind that when you attack Trump supporters you are taking about roughly 70 million of your fellow citizens. Those 70 million decided that it is better to have Trump (flawed as he is) than a senior citizen who has beginning stages Alzheimers and obvious cognitive decline. Not to mention he has enriched himself while doing nothing his whole life other than being a mediocre Senator and a plagiarizing loser in previous elections. It will only take a few months before the MSM tires of the “victory” and turn on Biden and his obvious corruption. They will tear him apart because they won’t have Trump around to pump up their viewership anymore. At that point we will have the shrill Harris (she of the 1%) as President. Good grief. Talk about a nightmare.
Thou dost protest too much.
We all knew in advance and I even reported on it here that the early voting and mail-in voting was overwhelmingly Democratic.
In many states that was tabulated last.
The surge was expected IN ADVANCE.
“We all knew?” Who? The MSM? Only Democrats use the mail? You are correct about one thing. The “surge” (yea right) was expected in advance. We all saw this coming. Along with the magical vaccine that appears a week after the victory. When Trump talked vaccine, he was ridiculed. Now it’s a miracle. This whole thing is a pathetic joke as are the hypocritical, morally self righteous D-bags, like you who talk down to your fellow citizens who don’t agree with you.
The Supreme Court is still to rule on the Pennsylvania ballots that fall under extended deadline (there’s not enough of them to overturn the election). They refused to fast track it, I think GOP AGs want SCOTUS to rule on this in hopes of making the independent state legislature doctrine binding precedent and possibly circumscribing Chevron deference. Arguably nondelegation doctrine would do more to kneecap the Biden administration than a GOP Senate.
In Bush v Gore the Court ruled if I’m correct 5 to 4 that since Florida didn’t have a standardized method of doing a recount across the state lines that it violated the Equal Protection Clause. In a concurring opinion written by Rehnquist joined by Scalia and Thomas they said the Florida Supreme Court violated the Constitution by usurping the power of the Florida legislature to conduct elections and govern its electors. Kennedy and O’Connor the other judges in majority didn’t join that part.
Did you read the article? Trump is down 45k, he needs any new votes. Biden does not.
What I’m saying the purpose of lawsuits is not to change the result but to built conservative case precedent.
*County lines, not state lines
Was stopping the counting and having vans show up at 3am also anticipated in advance?
What about the crop circles…
Another benefit is keeping Trumpites stirred up enough to show up to vote in the Georgia run-offs.
Run-off elections don’t usually get out the vote….and I expect a lot of Georgia Democrats to forget that their elections aren’t over…..without the POTUS ticket, they won’t bother, and Republicans might take both seats.
I expect this is not lost on McConnell.
the distribution of the late results look very suspicious ? all mail in voters were democrats? (I am not a Trump supporter)
Trump complained for weeks about voting by mail being rigged and encouraged his supporters to vote in person.
So yes, the vast majority of mail-in-votes were for Biden.
No, I don’t see anything suspicious at all. That was what everyone expected. Democrats exceeded Republicans at least 2-1 in applications for mail in votes. Add to that Trump supporters tended to think that Covid is no big deal, and you have to expect Trump to have won a majority of votes that showed up in person, and Biden to win a majority of the advance vote and mail-in vote.
There is a good ZH piece on this, on how only swing states swung towards dems jumping the otherwise stable trend of mixed mail in ballot count ratio as evening went on . I won’t link it because posting ZH often sets people off (around here).
Reason for percent of mail-in for Trump…
Democrats were eager to vote–they had had enough. There was no reason to wait until the final hour, through the ginned-up October surprises and the unsubstantiated charges.
Democrats are aware that Republicans try to throw as many obstacles in the way of widespread turnout and the election day poll shutdown or slowdown is a favorite.
Democrats took the virus seriously, and have been taking precautions against potentially hazardous activities such as possible standing in line for hours during possibly inclement weather. Trump followers were told the virus was a hoax, nit worse than a case of the sniffles.
Trumps promotion of the idea of mobs of Trump supporters (err, poll watchers) standing outside polling places “campaigning” for Trump made people want to avoid that sort of harassment.
So yes, a stronly pro-Biden bent for mail-in voting.
What is utterly amazing though is those that think they know what other people voted before those votes are even counted ! Then they say that to properly oversee the count is deluded , and come up with all sort of argument and conspiracy to justify their view.
The idea of democracy seems to be one person one vote, one fraudulent vote that tips the election is to make a mockery of this idea by disenfranchising half the population completely. Just one measly little fraudulent vote and everything election or democracy stand for goes to pieces.
So why the rush, the objection, to investigation of fraud ???
The Idea of “OUR” Democracy is the Electoral College, Not one Vote, One Citizen And the Right’s Tactics has Been Mass Disenfranchisement to Get Over…It Should be One Vote One Person and That is Not how The System was Set Up or Al Gore, Hillary, and Dukakis Would have Been Elected!!!
all mail in votes weren’t cast by Democrats. However, after months of telling his base that voting by mail isn’t safe and that COVID is a hoax, many voted in person. In contrast, Democrats know that voting by mail is safe, while standing in line during a pandemic is not.
-States held by Republicans refused to let absentee/VBM ballots be counted until after the polls closed. It caused a “red mirage” and a lot of confusion, which Trump. et al. are fully behind.
Your making an ass of yourself as usual. A candidate has every right to dispute results when irregularity occurs as it most certainly did in this election. Pull your pants up and go hump a statue for awhile. Your pathetic.
Bob barr “justice ” department is on the case
Top prosecutor just resigned in protest.
…of being exposed ?