Eight Catalonia Ministers Jailed, Madrid Seeks European Arrest Warrant for Catalan Leader

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If Catalonia, Brexit, Trump, the elections in France, Germany, Austria and Czech Rep have not sent a clear enough message on where things are headed, wait until the Italian elections and the dollar starts to make new highs. The govt/socialist bubble is popping and the worthless sociopaths in govt are going to lose what little mind they have trying to hold on to their perks and power, which means taxes and oppression will continue to rise.

If Jerry Brown crowd funded an independence vote he would be over funded, and the residual could be sent to IL, NY, and the other Collectivist, anti-American black holes. The rest of the country would even help them rig the votes to secede. Why didn’t Catalonia launch an ICO to fund the independence movement? They would’ve received enough to jump start the new govt, institute their own 2nd amendment and buy everyone their first gun.

@peacock

Subjecting one’s self to the authority of a nation’s court is not the same thing as being seized and arrested by that nation and forced to trial for a crime of which they’ve accused you.

Once arrested, anyone can refuse to participate. They can refuse to lodge a plea; refuse to speak; refuse to interact, answer the judge…etc. That’s how you “refuse to recognize the authority” of some particular court.

That doesn’t mean they won’t take you outside and shoot you to show you that their authority is valid – it just means that as long as you’re alive, you don’t recognize it.

The actions of the Catalan separatists don’t make any sense to me. If they have declared independence then why do they subject themselves to the authority of a Spanish court? It seems that those 8 detained went to court to answer charges. That is explicit recognition of a Spanish court. If they believe they are truly independent then they should tell the Spanish court to go to hell and focus on building independent institutions. And if the Spanish national police show up to arrest them, the separatists would need to get their supporters to prevent such arrests.

Don’t expect any sympathy for Catalonia from the EU. They are firmly on the side of Spain.

Mish the EU is a dictatorship masquerading as a representative democracy.

Assuming Madrid is able to arrest this guy, how does that help quell the rebellion / independence movement? Making the guy into a martyr will, if anything, strengthen opposition.

And the EU is going to commit human rights violations (undermining themselves) or they are going to undermine Madrid (undermining member state)… one would think that Brussels has enough problems already without wading into this mess.

I still don’t care. Spain sat there and criticized the US for not being socialist enough when the con-man imposed obamacare on us. Spain / Catalonia is getting some well deserved karma — when you support tyranny in the USA, don’t be surprised when some of it boomerangs back at you